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User: "johac"
Date: 06 Oct 2006 06:37:00 AM
Object: The Religious Right's Foley Confabulation
You knew that the religious right wingnuts were going to jump in.
"It's all the fault of the 'pro-homosexual activists' and Bill Clinton!"
---
The Religious Right's Foley Confabulation
Of all the reactions to the Foley case, here's my personal favorite:
Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, he the leader of the
über-right, Onward Christian soldier" league, used the occasion to (what
else?) bash gays and promote the "link between homosexuality and child
sexual abuse."
Forget about House Speaker Dennis Hastert's characterization of some of
the now disgraced former Representative Foley's E-mails to teen male
pages as "overly friendly." Forget about former Representative Foley's
admission that he was sexually abused by a priest as a young teen. These
were not Perkins's most pressing concerns. In fact, he wrote, the GOP
leadership's laissez-faire attitude toward Foley E-mail exchanges with
House pages wasn't the real issue. The real issue, in Perkins-Land,
anyway, is that Foley's now public E-mail perversions would not have
besmirched the Republican Party had Washington not fallen prey to
"pro-homosexual activists." Puh-leeze!!!
It gets worse. The FRC's website quotes President Perkins as saying,
"Now that his E-mails and messages to teenage male pages have been
revealed, it appears clear that Foley is a homosexual with a particular
attraction to underage boys. While pro-homosexual activists like to
claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from
homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the
two. Although almost all child molesters are male and less than 3
percent of men are homosexual, about a third of all child sex abuse
cases involve men molesting boysand in one study, 86 percent of such men
identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual."
Oh, I get it. If there were no gay men in the world, there would be no
pedophilia. Hmm. Does it then follow that since Charles Carl Roberts
(who this week slaughtered five Amish schoolgirls and shot five more)
was a heterosexual father of three, fewer schoolgirls would be murdered
if there were fewer fathers of three children who drove milk trucks for
a living? The latter makes as much sense as the former; in other words,
neither makes sense. They're both contorted thinking. Mine, on the one
hand, is a confabulation. Perkins's, however, is serious.
This is not to say the entire God Squad has an equally bizarre take on
the Foley fiasco. Focus on the Family had no mention that I could find
on its home page. But a search for "Foley" on its website pulled up the
following:
"Tom Minnery, Focus Action's senior vice president of government and
public policy, said Foley 'should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law' if he is guilty of preying on boys. But he added the
preoccupation with the political aspects of the incident were
unfortunate. Those truly interested in protecting children from online
predators should spend less time calling for Speaker Hastert to step
down, and more time demanding that the Justice Department enforce
existing laws that would limit the proliferation of the kind of filth
that leads grown men to think it's perfectly OK to send lurid e-mails to
16-year-old boys.'"
There they go again. Blame the "homosexual activists." Blame Bill
Clinton (I'm sure they'll find a way). But don't blame the Republican
Party or its leaders.
Meanwhile, the conservative Washington Times newspaper has called for
Speaker Hastert's resignation, as has conservative radio talk show host
Michael Reagan (former President Reagan's eldest son).
Will this be the issue that splits the already fractured Republican
coalition? We'll know on November 8.
---
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/erbeblog/archive/061004/the_religiou
s_rights_foley_con.htm
or
http://tinyurl.com/htarc
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.

User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: The Religious Right's Foley Confabulation 06 Oct 2006 08:30:58 AM
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-3DE8F7.23370005102006@news.giganews.com...

You knew that the religious right wingnuts were going to jump in.

"It's all the fault of the 'pro-homosexual activists' and Bill Clinton!"

---
The Religious Right's Foley Confabulation

Of all the reactions to the Foley case, here's my personal favorite:
Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, he the leader of the
über-right, Onward Christian soldier" league, used the occasion to (what
else?) bash gays and promote the "link between homosexuality and child
sexual abuse."

Forget about House Speaker Dennis Hastert's characterization of some of
the now disgraced former Representative Foley's E-mails to teen male
pages as "overly friendly." Forget about former Representative Foley's
admission that he was sexually abused by a priest as a young teen. These
were not Perkins's most pressing concerns. In fact, he wrote, the GOP
leadership's laissez-faire attitude toward Foley E-mail exchanges with
House pages wasn't the real issue. The real issue, in Perkins-Land,
anyway, is that Foley's now public E-mail perversions would not have
besmirched the Republican Party had Washington not fallen prey to
"pro-homosexual activists." Puh-leeze!!!

It gets worse. The FRC's website quotes President Perkins as saying,
"Now that his E-mails and messages to teenage male pages have been
revealed, it appears clear that Foley is a homosexual with a particular
attraction to underage boys. While pro-homosexual activists like to
claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from
homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the
two. Although almost all child molesters are male and less than 3
percent of men are homosexual, about a third of all child sex abuse
cases involve men molesting boysand in one study, 86 percent of such men
identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual."

Oh, I get it. If there were no gay men in the world, there would be no
pedophilia. Hmm. Does it then follow that since Charles Carl Roberts
(who this week slaughtered five Amish schoolgirls and shot five more)
was a heterosexual father of three, fewer schoolgirls would be murdered
if there were fewer fathers of three children who drove milk trucks for
a living? The latter makes as much sense as the former; in other words,
neither makes sense. They're both contorted thinking. Mine, on the one
hand, is a confabulation. Perkins's, however, is serious.

This is not to say the entire God Squad has an equally bizarre take on
the Foley fiasco. Focus on the Family had no mention that I could find
on its home page. But a search for "Foley" on its website pulled up the
following:

"Tom Minnery, Focus Action's senior vice president of government and
public policy, said Foley 'should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law' if he is guilty of preying on boys. But he added the
preoccupation with the political aspects of the incident were
unfortunate. Those truly interested in protecting children from online
predators should spend less time calling for Speaker Hastert to step
down, and more time demanding that the Justice Department enforce
existing laws that would limit the proliferation of the kind of filth
that leads grown men to think it's perfectly OK to send lurid e-mails to
16-year-old boys.'"

There they go again. Blame the "homosexual activists." Blame Bill
Clinton (I'm sure they'll find a way). But don't blame the Republican
Party or its leaders.

Meanwhile, the conservative Washington Times newspaper has called for
Speaker Hastert's resignation, as has conservative radio talk show host
Michael Reagan (former President Reagan's eldest son).

Will this be the issue that splits the already fractured Republican
coalition? We'll know on November 8.

It's doing a darned good job of it, so far. Every
whine, screech and accusation the Rethugs make
is backfiring on them. Even some fundies are
turning against them. Actually, some of the fundies
had already turned on the Shrubites, since they
broke several promises they'd made to them.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^



---
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/erbeblog/archive/061004/the_religiou
s_rights_foley_con.htm

or

http://tinyurl.com/htarc
--
John Hachmann aa #1782

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities"
-Voltaire

Contact - Throw a .net over the .com

.
User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: The Religious Right's Foley Confabulation 06 Oct 2006 12:49:42 PM
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:rYWdnescEMauibvYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@comcast.com...

Even some fundies are
turning against them. Actually, some of the fundies
had already turned on the Shrubites, since they
broke several promises they'd made to them.

I hope they're not looking to the Democrats for any favorites.
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: The Religious Right's Foley Confabulation 07 Oct 2006 05:16:55 AM
In article <rYWdnescEMauibvYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-3DE8F7.23370005102006@news.giganews.com...

You knew that the religious right wingnuts were going to jump in.

"It's all the fault of the 'pro-homosexual activists' and Bill Clinton!"

---
The Religious Right's Foley Confabulation

Of all the reactions to the Foley case, here's my personal favorite:
Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, he the leader of the
über-right, Onward Christian soldier" league, used the occasion to (what
else?) bash gays and promote the "link between homosexuality and child
sexual abuse."

Forget about House Speaker Dennis Hastert's characterization of some of
the now disgraced former Representative Foley's E-mails to teen male
pages as "overly friendly." Forget about former Representative Foley's
admission that he was sexually abused by a priest as a young teen. These
were not Perkins's most pressing concerns. In fact, he wrote, the GOP
leadership's laissez-faire attitude toward Foley E-mail exchanges with
House pages wasn't the real issue. The real issue, in Perkins-Land,
anyway, is that Foley's now public E-mail perversions would not have
besmirched the Republican Party had Washington not fallen prey to
"pro-homosexual activists." Puh-leeze!!!

It gets worse. The FRC's website quotes President Perkins as saying,
"Now that his E-mails and messages to teenage male pages have been
revealed, it appears clear that Foley is a homosexual with a particular
attraction to underage boys. While pro-homosexual activists like to
claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from
homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the
two. Although almost all child molesters are male and less than 3
percent of men are homosexual, about a third of all child sex abuse
cases involve men molesting boysand in one study, 86 percent of such men
identified themselves as homosexual or bisexual."

Oh, I get it. If there were no gay men in the world, there would be no
pedophilia. Hmm. Does it then follow that since Charles Carl Roberts
(who this week slaughtered five Amish schoolgirls and shot five more)
was a heterosexual father of three, fewer schoolgirls would be murdered
if there were fewer fathers of three children who drove milk trucks for
a living? The latter makes as much sense as the former; in other words,
neither makes sense. They're both contorted thinking. Mine, on the one
hand, is a confabulation. Perkins's, however, is serious.

This is not to say the entire God Squad has an equally bizarre take on
the Foley fiasco. Focus on the Family had no mention that I could find
on its home page. But a search for "Foley" on its website pulled up the
following:

"Tom Minnery, Focus Action's senior vice president of government and
public policy, said Foley 'should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of
the law' if he is guilty of preying on boys. But he added the
preoccupation with the political aspects of the incident were
unfortunate. Those truly interested in protecting children from online
predators should spend less time calling for Speaker Hastert to step
down, and more time demanding that the Justice Department enforce
existing laws that would limit the proliferation of the kind of filth
that leads grown men to think it's perfectly OK to send lurid e-mails to
16-year-old boys.'"

There they go again. Blame the "homosexual activists." Blame Bill
Clinton (I'm sure they'll find a way). But don't blame the Republican
Party or its leaders.

Meanwhile, the conservative Washington Times newspaper has called for
Speaker Hastert's resignation, as has conservative radio talk show host
Michael Reagan (former President Reagan's eldest son).

Will this be the issue that splits the already fractured Republican
coalition? We'll know on November 8.

It's doing a darned good job of it, so far. Every
whine, screech and accusation the Rethugs make
is backfiring on them. Even some fundies are
turning against them. Actually, some of the fundies
had already turned on the Shrubites, since they
broke several promises they'd made to them.

Yes, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are going badly, Woodward's
book, Iran and N. Korea are thumbing their noses at us, Abramoff and all
of the corruption related to him, lingering anger over Katrina, and now
a sex scandal. I'm sure that I may have messed some too.
I think we're looking at an elephant stampede out of Washington on Nov.
8.

--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^



---
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/opinion/erbeblog/archive/061004/the_religiou
s_rights_foley_con.htm

or

http://tinyurl.com/htarc
--

--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: The Religious Right's Foley Confabulation 10 Oct 2006 12:22:45 AM
On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 22:16:55 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

In article <rYWdnescEMauibvYnZ2dnUVZ_qadnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-3DE8F7.23370005102006@news.giganews.com...

You knew that the religious right wingnuts were going to jump in.

[]

There they go again. Blame the "homosexual activists." Blame Bill
Clinton (I'm sure they'll find a way). But don't blame the Republican
Party or its leaders.

Meanwhile, the conservative Washington Times newspaper has called for
Speaker Hastert's resignation, as has conservative radio talk show host
Michael Reagan (former President Reagan's eldest son).

Will this be the issue that splits the already fractured Republican
coalition? We'll know on November 8.

It's doing a darned good job of it, so far. Every
whine, screech and accusation the Rethugs make
is backfiring on them. Even some fundies are
turning against them. Actually, some of the fundies
had already turned on the Shrubites, since they
broke several promises they'd made to them.


Yes, and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are going badly, Woodward's
book, Iran and N. Korea are thumbing their noses at us, Abramoff and all
of the corruption related to him, lingering anger over Katrina, and now
a sex scandal. I'm sure that I may have messed some too.

I think we're looking at an elephant stampede out of Washington on Nov.
8.

Not if the Rethug's have anything to say. They've cranked up the voting
defrancisation machine via putting out old old voting forms and changing
the rules right up to the last minute {Ohio}. Good ole Diebold's going
to really get a workout, too.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.




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