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"Hans Reinhardt" |
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20 Sep 2003 12:43:10 AM |
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The ridiculous myth that Europe is more leftwing than USA |
Idiots always like to promote the Myth that Europe is more "left" than
Amerika. The opposite is true. Nationalist parties are doing far
better in European countries than in the Great Satan. A party like Le
Pen's Frontnational would not even show up on the Political radar in
the USA. Yet in France it is a major power.
Certainly Europe is more friendly to socialist politics than is the
USA. But in Europe, socialism is not necessarily "left wing" remember.
The National Socialists, Christian Democrats, etc. promote economic
socialism of a certain degree but are racially and socially on the
right.
There are also joke "atheist" Jews who claim that Christianity is dead
in Europe. Maybe that is true, if so it means Christianity is not the
force behind anti-jew nationalism in Europe! Of course it is not, it
never has been. Europeans hate Jews because they have been fucked over
by Jews since those rats weaseled their way onto the continent. This
started a long time before the jews concocted the toxin of
"Christianity."
HR
Le Pen in sight of a regional triumph
As French far-right leader begins regional election campaign, many
fear his party could gain control of a large part of the country
Jon Henley in Nice
Friday September 19, 2003
The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1045148,00.html
There are many grounds for mistrusting Jean-Marie Le Pen, but
electoral prediction is not generally among them. When he hazards a
guess the veteran leader of France's far right is rarely wrong. And
this, he said yesterday, is the most winnable election of all his long
career.
Even his opponents agree that next spring's regional polls, the first
since the presidential and parliamentary elections last year which
produced the biggest upset in the country's postwar political history,
will probably give the pugnacious National Front president his
greatest chance yet of a historic victory.
"I see things very clearly," he said yesterday, formally beginning his
campaign for the presidency of the Provence, Alpes and Côte d'Azur
(Paca) region before a battery of TV cameras in a chartered yacht
replete with champagne and canapes in the Baie des Anges, off Nice.
"There will be three major contenders in the second round," he said.
"Neither the right nor the left will withdraw - as they did to wreck
our chances last year - and they certainly won't merge their lists.
"I am confident that here, finally, we will emerge as the winners of a
three-way battle."
Many observers think Mr Le Pen may be right. The anti-immigrant Front
has come close to controlling France's 20 regional councils before,
notably at the last polls in 1998, when several conservative council
presidents tried to make ultimately unsuccessful deals with far-right
leaders in an effort to retain their seats.
This time its chances of winning an outright victory, particularly in
its heartlands in eastern and southern France, may be even better.
The Socialist party is still reeling from the events of last year,
when their presidential candidate, Lionel Jospin, was knocked out by
Mr Le Pen, and their government humiliated by a landslide conservative
victory in parliamentary polls.
The early flush of Jean-Pierre Raffarin's centre-right government has
faded, and its approval rating is falling steadily on issues such as
its allegedly inept handling of this summer's heatwave and its
unpopular reforms of state pensions, the civil service and the
national health system.
A senior Front official, Carl Lang, estimated yesterday that the party
should reach the second round of the two-stage elections in "probably
16 or 17 regions". In 1998 it won an average of 15.25% of the vote and
returned 275 regional councillors; even its opponents expect it to do
a great deal better this time.
It could also be helped by a change in the voting laws introduced by
the government earlier this year.
Aimed primarily at spoiling the chances of minority parties, many of
the bill's measures were ruled unconstitutional, and what remains of
the legislation, giving the second-round winner a bonus of 25% of all
council seats, "could now really work to our advantage", said Marine
Le Pen, the Front's vice-president and her father's likely successor.
Nowhere is the risk of the Front gaining its first taste of serious
power higher than in Paca, where Mr Le Pen won a record 28% of the
vote in the second round of last year's presidential election.
Unemployment there, at 11.5%, is more than two points higher than the
national average, encouraging support for the far-right.
Thierry Mariani, a conservative MP who has successfully fought off
Front challenges in his southern constituency Vaucluse, said the
prospects of Mr Le Pen becoming regional president - with control over
a large budget for economic development, education, transport and
culture - were "terrifyingly real".
"Here the Front can count on as many votes as both the right and the
left," he said. "It would of course be a catastrophe: every regional
decision would be politicised."
Mr Mariani knows what he is talking about. In the four southern French
town halls it has controlled, Orange, Vitrolles, Marignane and Toulon,
the Front has not hesitated to implement its policies of national
preference for French citizens in jobs, housing and social benefits,
and to promote "traditional" French culture.
Subsidies have been withdrawn from rap and ethnic musicians and from
festivals which showed gay movies; cultural centres which held
"non-French" events have been closed; schools stopped from offering
special meals to Jewish and Muslim children; municipal libraries
banned from subscribing to leftwing publications.
In Vitrolles the Front town council briefly offered an illegal £500
"baby subsidy" to couples who added to their family - providing that
both parents were of white European origin.
Michel Vauzelle, the current Socialist president of the regional
council, is equally pessimistic.
"There's a very big risk," he said. "Neither the left nor the right
can win by saying, 'If the worst comes to the worst, we'll merge to
keep out the Front.' That would hand them victory on a plate."
Blinking in the sun on the deck of the Star Côte d'Azur yesterday, Mr
Le Pen brimmed with an unaccustomed confidence. "True, the president
of a region does not have the same powers as the president of the
republic," he said. "But victory here will send a very, very strong
signal.
"After the earthquake of the presidential elections, it will mark the
beginning of fundamental change for France."
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| User: "Dr. Smartass" |
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| Title: Re: The ridiculous myth that Europe is more leftwing than USA |
20 Sep 2003 05:29:28 PM |
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(Hans Reinhardt) wrote in
news:6c83f280.0309192143.5c080c1c@posting.google.com:
From: (Hans Reinhardt)
Back from your black hole, I see. Time for you to go back there.
--
Dr. Smartass
BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them."
--Rush, "The Weapon"
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| User: "Thales" |
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| Title: Re: The ridiculous myth that Europe is more leftwing than USA |
20 Sep 2003 08:55:05 PM |
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(Hans Reinhardt) wrote in message news:<6c83f280.0309192143.5c080c1c@posting.google.com>...
There are also joke "atheist" Jews who claim that Christianity is dead
in Europe. Maybe that is true, if so it means Christianity is not the
force behind anti-jew nationalism in Europe! Of course it is not, it
never has been. Europeans hate Jews because they have been fucked over
by Jews since those rats weaseled their way onto the continent. This
started a long time before the jews concocted the toxin of
"Christianity."
Who do you think you're kidding?
CONSTANTINE'S ANTI-SEMITISM
While the 306CE Church Synod of Elvira banned all intimate, social and
community relationships between Christians and Jews, including
intermarriage things would get much worse with Constantine's state
support of Christianity. Constantine showed vehement antisemitism in
his letter regarding his decree legalizing the keeping of Easter. This
can be read at:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/const1-easter.html
Excerpts from this letter to those "that missed the council":
"....the Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of
crimes, and whose minds were blinded. In rejecting their custom, we
may transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating
Easter, which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion
to the present day[according to the day of the week]. We ought not,
therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews,..."
"...we desire, dearest brethren, to separate ourselves from the
detestable company of the Jews,..."
"How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most certainly blinded
by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one year is totally
inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still be your
duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such wicked
people."
"You should consider not only that the number of churches in these
provinces make a majority, but also that it is right to demand what
our reason approves, and that we should have nothing in common with
the Jews."
In 324CE, Constantine had also reenacted laws forbidding Jews to live
in Jerusalem and to engage in any proselytizing activity
In 325, Constantine's Council of Nicea, in addressing Easter, Passover
and the Jews declared: "For it is unbecoming beyond measure that on
this holiest of festivals we should follow the customs of the Jews.
Henceforth let us have nothing in common with this odious people..."
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| User: "Roger" |
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| Title: Re: The ridiculous myth that Europe is more leftwing than USA |
20 Sep 2003 09:47:41 AM |
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Hans Reinhardt wrote
in message <6c83f280.0309192143.5c080c1c@posting.google.com>:
<snip off topic rant to>
Le Pen in sight of a regional triumph
As French far-right leader begins regional election campaign, many
fear his party could gain control of a large part of the country
Jon Henley in Nice
Friday September 19, 2003
The Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,1045148,00.html
Which violation of copyright has *what* to do with the historical fact
of the Holocaust and the denial thereof?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: The ridiculous myth that Europe is more leftwing than USA |
20 Sep 2003 06:01:16 PM |
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On 19 Sep 2003 22:43:10 -0700, (Hans Reinhardt)
posted in alt.atheism:
Allow me to congratulate those who see you for the scum you are, by
following them.
<plonk>
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Thales" |
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| Title: Re: The ridiculous myth that Europe is more leftwing than USA |
20 Sep 2003 09:00:41 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message news:<d0npmv8pdelfqmldnqpkh6u27blji9ujuk@Pern.rk>...
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
Constantius banned the intermarriage between Jewsh men and Christian
women. Jewish husbands were to be put to death for seducing Christian
women to embrace Judaism. This action criminalized proselytizing under
penalty of death. Although slavery was extremely common, Constantius
took away the Jews' right to own slaves, especially Christian slaves,
in a time when economic prosperity depended on the slave trade. This
put Jews at a financial disadvantage gave Christians special rights,
which was probably the intent. One has to wonder how many people
converted to receive these special rigts. And to top it off, if a
Jewish slaveowner had his slave circumcized he would be fined and face
the possbility of being executed.
In 339CE Constantius issued these decrees regarding Jews
Codex Theodosianus, 16.8.6:
"This pertains to women, who live in our weaving factories and whom
Jews, in their foulness, take in marriage. It is decreed that these
women are to be restored to the weaving factories. [Marriages between
Jews and Christian women of the imperial weaving factory are to be
dissolved.]"
"This prohibition [of intermarriage] is to be preserved for the future
lest the Jews induce Christian women to share their shameful lives. If
they do this they will subject themselves to a sentence of death."
Codex Theodosianus 16.9.2:
"if any one among the Jews has purchased a slave of another sect or
nation, that slave shall at once be appropriated for the imperial
treasury."
"If, indeed, he shall have circumcised the slave whom he has
purchased, he will not only be fined for the damage done to that slave
but he will also receive capital punishment."
"If, indeed, a Jew does not hesitate to purchase slaves-those who are
members of the faith that is worthy of respect [Christianity] then all
these slaves who are found in his possession shall at once be removed.
No delay shall be occasioned, but he is to be deprived of the
possession of those men who are Christians."
By 388 Intermarriage between Jews and Christians
was declared illegal in the Codex Theodosianus.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: The ridiculous myth that Europe is more leftwing than USA |
20 Sep 2003 02:47:50 AM |
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On 19 Sep 2003 22:43:10 -0700, (Hans Reinhardt)
wrote:
There are also joke "atheist" Jews who claim that Christianity is dead
in Europe. Maybe that is true, if so it means Christianity is not the
force behind anti-jew nationalism in Europe! Of course it is not, it
never has been. Europeans hate Jews because they have been fucked over
by Jews since those rats weaseled their way onto the continent. This
started a long time before the jews concocted the toxin of
"Christianity."
<plonk>
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| User: "Alun Harford" |
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| Title: Re: The ridiculous myth that Europe is more leftwing than USA |
20 Sep 2003 12:55:29 PM |
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X-No-Archive: Yes
"Hans Reinhardt" <truthbearer9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:6c83f280.0309192143.5c080c1c@posting.google.com...
<utter crap>
*PLONK*
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