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"quibbler" |
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19 Apr 2005 03:18:10 PM |
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The so-called "election" of a pope |
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor. This is even more screwed up than an repug run election
in Iraq or Florida.
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"Faith, indeed, has up to the present not been
able to move real mountains ... But it can put
mountains where there are none." -- Nietzsche
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
20 Apr 2005 01:59:21 AM |
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In article <MPG.1ccf156d336efa80989697@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor. This is even more screwed up than an repug run election
in Iraq or Florida.
I thought I saw Katherine Harris sneaking around disguised as a nun.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
22 Apr 2005 09:51:07 AM |
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 23:59:21 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <MPG.1ccf156d336efa80989697@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor. This is even more screwed up than an repug run election
in Iraq or Florida.
I thought I saw Katherine Harris sneaking around disguised as a nun.
AKA "Meat Locker."
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
19 Apr 2005 05:07:09 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:10 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor.
It's great, isn't it!!!!
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Guardian Pegasus" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
19 Apr 2005 10:41:00 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:07:09 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:10 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor.
It's great, isn't it!!!!
LOL... oh duke... ye of little IQ :-)
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| User: "Iain" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
20 Apr 2005 07:59:37 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:10 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor.
It's great, isn't it!!!!
duke
I'm "with" Duke on this one -- Democracy was never the point of the
Catholic church, and the idea is to circumvent the effects of papal
mortality as much as possible by allowing a pope to influence his
successor.
~Iain
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
19 Apr 2005 05:12:04 PM |
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on 19 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:10 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor.
It's great, isn't it!!!!
Sure, I guess it is, for people who are used to having their choices made
for them.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
20 Apr 2005 05:51:04 PM |
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:12:04 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
on 19 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:10 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor.
It's great, isn't it!!!!
Sure, I guess it is, for people who are used to having their choices made
for them.
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
20 Apr 2005 08:48:59 PM |
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On 20 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:12:04 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
on 19 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:10 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor.
It's great, isn't it!!!!
Sure, I guess it is, for people who are used to having their choices
made for them.
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
My point exactly. Did you cast a vote? No? Yet you love the result.
You're a stupid sheep that accepts whatever your religion throws at you
without question. They gotcha, duke. Are ya proud?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
21 Apr 2005 05:42:36 PM |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:48:59 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
It's great, isn't it!!!!
Sure, I guess it is, for people who are used to having their choices
made for them.
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
My point exactly. Did you cast a vote? No?
No, I don't get a vote.
Yet you love the result.
You're a stupid sheep that accepts whatever your religion throws at you
without question. They gotcha, duke. Are ya proud?
They got me another Pope with a conservative mind. Yes, I'm proud.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
21 Apr 2005 11:16:41 PM |
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On 21 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 20:48:59 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
It's great, isn't it!!!!
Sure, I guess it is, for people who are used to having their choices
made for them.
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
My point exactly. Did you cast a vote? No?
No, I don't get a vote.
Yet you love the result.
You're a stupid sheep that accepts whatever your religion throws at
you without question. They gotcha, duke. Are ya proud?
They got me another Pope with a conservative mind. Yes, I'm proud.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. Keep in mind, science will have yet
another rejector in a high position. Humanity will continue to wallow in
the mud of religion. Pfeh!
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
22 Apr 2005 01:05:51 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:16:41 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
You're a stupid sheep that accepts whatever your religion throws at
you without question. They gotcha, duke. Are ya proud?
They got me another Pope with a conservative mind. Yes, I'm proud.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. Keep in mind, science will have yet
another rejector in a high position.
The Holy Father does not in any way reject science. What are you smoking now,
vic?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
23 Apr 2005 12:00:34 AM |
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On 22 Apr 2005, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 23:16:41 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
You're a stupid sheep that accepts whatever your religion throws at
you without question. They gotcha, duke. Are ya proud?
They got me another Pope with a conservative mind. Yes, I'm proud.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. Keep in mind, science will have yet
another rejector in a high position.
The Holy Father does not in any way reject science. What are you
smoking now, vic?
Reality.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
21 Apr 2005 05:03:38 AM |
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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 17:51:04 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:12:04 -0500, Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> wrote:
on 19 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:10 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand picked
by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand picked
successor.
It's great, isn't it!!!!
Sure, I guess it is, for people who are used to having their choices made
for them.
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
The point, which you have clearly failed to understand yet again is
the you and every other catholic, but that self-perpetuating few,
didn't get a vote.
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
21 Apr 2005 05:43:20 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 11:03:38 +0100, Les Hellawell
<myshredder@leswell.freeuk.com> wrote:
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
The point, which you have clearly failed to understand yet again is
the you and every other catholic, but that self-perpetuating few,
didn't get a vote.
Of course I didn't get a vote. Are you drinking again?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
20 Apr 2005 08:00:41 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 17:12:04 -0500, Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> wrote:
on 19 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, duke dropped trou, farted, whirled,
then shouted:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:10 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I know that Catholics love to believe that there is actually an
"election" held for a pope. But all the "electors" were hand
picked by the last pope and they basically rubberstamped his hand
picked successor.
It's great, isn't it!!!!
Sure, I guess it is, for people who are used to having their choices
made for them.
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
Earl admits they are not picked by god. He forgets what the nuns told him.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
21 Apr 2005 05:41:15 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 01:00:41 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
Earl admits they are not picked by god. He forgets what the nuns told him.
He's picked by the cardinals by cast of vote. Didn't you know that, mikey?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
21 Apr 2005 08:58:30 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 01:00:41 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
Earl admits they are not picked by god. He forgets what the nuns
told him.
He's picked by the cardinals by cast of vote. Didn't you know that,
mikey?
Yes he is but the church taught you god does it.
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Apr 2005 01:03:49 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 01:58:30 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
Earl admits they are not picked by god. He forgets what the nuns
told him.
He's picked by the cardinals by cast of vote. Didn't you know that,
mikey?
Yes he is but the church taught you god does it.
Really, where?
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
22 Apr 2005 01:53:44 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 01:58:30 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Sorry bubba, but they cast their own votes.
Earl admits they are not picked by god. He forgets what the nuns
told him.
He's picked by the cardinals by cast of vote. Didn't you know that,
mikey?
Yes he is but the church taught you god does it.
Really, where?
Forgot what the nuns taught you?
It follows logically from the idea that god selected the first pope and
that, just as that was not a single event, the selection process would
continue to be from god.
"Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit of God selects the Pope through the
Cardinals who will gather in Rome. And it is only God who can end the Pope's
term of office which God did today. "
-Father James A. Miceli, Pastor, St. Mary's Catholic Church
This catholic belief only stems from after Pope St. Gregory VII who made the
cardinals the electors rather than the people.
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| User: "duke" |
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22 Apr 2005 05:50:59 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:53:44 GMT, "Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
Yes he is but the church taught you god does it.
Really, where?
Forgot what the nuns taught you?
It follows logically from the idea that god selected the first pope and
that, just as that was not a single event, the selection process would
continue to be from god.
Nope - that's illogical. Christ told his apostles (12 men) to go forth and
baptize all nations and teach them what he Jesus taught them until he returns.
Then he left for vacation.
In order to so approach the entire world, men had to replace men by voting for
other men. Matthias was chosen by lot to replace Judas. And so it continues.
"Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit of God selects the Pope through the
Cardinals who will gather in Rome. And it is only God who can end the Pope's
term of office which God did today. "
-Father James A. Miceli, Pastor, St. Mary's Catholic Church
And that's fine. I don't have a problem with that presentation.
This catholic belief only stems from after Pope St. Gregory VII who made the
cardinals the electors rather than the people.
How about Matthias? They were the apostles, not the "people".
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: The so-called "election" of a pope |
22 Apr 2005 08:25:09 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 18:53:44 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yes he is but the church taught you god does it.
Really, where?
Forgot what the nuns taught you?
It follows logically from the idea that god selected the first pope
and that, just as that was not a single event, the selection process
would continue to be from god.
Nope - that's illogical. Christ told his apostles (12 men) to go
forth and baptize all nations and teach them what he Jesus taught
them until he returns. Then he left for vacation.
Earl forgets that we are talking about the pope. According to the RCC the
first pope was appointed by Christ. To not be familar with this shows
either forgetting or an even poorer job done in his after school classs.
In order to so approach the entire world, men had to replace men by
voting for other men. Matthias was chosen by lot to replace Judas.
And so it continues.
"Catholics believe that the Holy Spirit of God selects the Pope
through the Cardinals who will gather in Rome. And it is only God
who can end the Pope's term of office which God did today. "
-Father James A. Miceli, Pastor, St. Mary's Catholic Church
And that's fine. I don't have a problem with that presentation.
This catholic belief only stems from after Pope St. Gregory VII who
made the cardinals the electors rather than the people.
How about Matthias? They were the apostles, not the "people".
Try reading this again early next week when your little episode is over.
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