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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Ghamph"
Date: 02 Feb 2008 03:54:27 PM
Object: The tiny universe.
This tiny universe may be all that humans will ever know.
To think that uncountable universes could exist, may not be something that
will ever be known.
The way humans need things to have a beginning and an end, is really small
thinking.
Since science knows and has proven that (nothing) can be destroyed, only
altered in form as burning a match only converts it to energy, gases, ash
etc.
Even a black hole contains stuff that may someday, in the far off distant
future become super universal egg size, and explode. (a theory).
The thought that everything had a beginning is much more mentally settling
than thinking that everything has always been, forever in the past.
When thinking of eternity, most think from now and forever in the future.
Thinking of (never ending) is mind numbing enough but to think of (always
has been-always will be) is very mind-expanding, to think about.
Eternity has a familiar symbol (figure 8 on it's side) which accurately
shows that (the beginning and the end are the same) and forever on and on.
Not proof in any way but this is the basis for my personal belief (probably
not many others).
Just a thought, which will undoubtedly be refuted by Christians and others
too.
But that will never change the way I sense eternity.
That is, unless a God shows up, no sign of one yet.
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The tiny universe. 03 Feb 2008 02:37:01 AM
Ghamph wrote:

This tiny universe may be all that humans will ever know.

To think that uncountable universes could exist, may not be something that
will ever be known.

The way humans need things to have a beginning and an end, is really small
thinking.

Since science knows and has proven that (nothing) can be destroyed, only
altered in form as burning a match only converts it to energy, gases, ash
etc.

Matter cannot be created or destroyed - a well known definition in Physics



Even a black hole contains stuff that may someday, in the far off distant
future become super universal egg size, and explode. (a theory).

We homo sapiens need not bother ourselves about what we can imagine out there,
as like all species our days will come to an end and we will be extinct, time
is not a factor in this concept. When this happens what goes on in space will
be of no consequence any more and the last human will take his last god with
him.
Awful thought, but a valid one.
We may speed matters along with our nuclear devices then it could all happen
earlier than nature intended.
The next world war is likely to be Islam hurling nuclear weapons at Western
mainly Christian countries and if it gets out of hand we may well wipe out
half of the population - all in the name of imaginary deities.
Not exactly a cheerful concept, one thing is for sure, god is not going to do
anything about it.
Bob



The thought that everything had a beginning is much more mentally settling
than thinking that everything has always been, forever in the past.

When thinking of eternity, most think from now and forever in the future.

Thinking of (never ending) is mind numbing enough but to think of (always
has been-always will be) is very mind-expanding, to think about.

Eternity has a familiar symbol (figure 8 on it's side) which accurately
shows that (the beginning and the end are the same) and forever on and on.

Not proof in any way but this is the basis for my personal belief (probably
not many others).

Just a thought, which will undoubtedly be refuted by Christians and others
too.

But that will never change the way I sense eternity.

That is, unless a God shows up, no sign of one yet.

Exactly
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: The tiny universe. 03 Feb 2008 07:49:42 PM
On 3 Feb 2008 02:37:01 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:



Ghamph wrote:

This tiny universe may be all that humans will ever know.

To think that uncountable universes could exist, may not be something that
will ever be known.

The way humans need things to have a beginning and an end, is really small
thinking.

Since science knows and has proven that (nothing) can be destroyed, only
altered in form as burning a match only converts it to energy, gases, ash
etc.


Matter cannot be created or destroyed - a well known definition in Physics

Tell that to the designers of the atom bombs.
.
User: "Ghamph"

Title: Re: The tiny universe. 04 Feb 2008 01:46:24 PM
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On 3 Feb 2008 02:37:01 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:



Ghamph wrote:

This tiny universe may be all that humans will ever know.

To think that uncountable universes could exist, may not be something

that

will ever be known.

The way humans need things to have a beginning and an end, is really

small

thinking.

Since science knows and has proven that (nothing) can be destroyed,

only

altered in form as burning a match only converts it to energy, gases,

ash

etc.


Matter cannot be created or destroyed - a well known definition in

Physics


Tell that to the designers of the atom bombs.

They are aware of that, more than most.
.

User: "bob young"

Title: Re: The tiny universe. 03 Feb 2008 11:20:02 PM
Michael Gray wrote:

On 3 Feb 2008 02:37:01 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:



Ghamph wrote:

This tiny universe may be all that humans will ever know.

To think that uncountable universes could exist, may not be something that
will ever be known.

The way humans need things to have a beginning and an end, is really small
thinking.

Since science knows and has proven that (nothing) can be destroyed, only
altered in form as burning a match only converts it to energy, gases, ash
etc.


Matter cannot be created or destroyed - a well known definition in Physics


Tell that to the designers of the atom bombs.

'There is an exception to every rule'
.




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