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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Son of man"
Date: 30 Aug 2004 09:34:53 AM
Object: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice
"Son of the Blessed One" does.
--
"The blindingly obvious is never immediately apparent." Brad Rogers
http://bellsouthpwp.net/c/h/Christ-Son-of-Buddha/TheWordOfGod_1.htm
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 12:11:23 PM
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Son of man:

"Son of the Blessed One" does.

Which one of your gods became a father? And where's my cigar?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 12:35:38 PM
"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:95556281Bvicman@127.0.0.1...

One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Son of man:

"Son of the Blessed One" does.


Which one of your gods became a father?

Buddha!

And where's my cigar?

You really need to quit those. Bad habit.


--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________

The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]

.
User: "Pat Harrington"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 05:37:47 AM
"Son of man" <thepuppetmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<OyJYc.67425$0o5.35127@bignews1.bellsouth.net>...

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:95556281Bvicman@127.0.0.1...

One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Son of man:

"Son of the Blessed One" does.


Which one of your gods became a father?


Buddha!

The son of Buddha wouldn't be seen dead in the guise of a
monotheist or ANY theist. LOGOS!!!!


And where's my cigar?


You really need to quit those. Bad habit.


--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________

The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]

.

User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 12:54:54 PM
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Son of man:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:95556281Bvicman@127.0.0.1...

One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Son of man:

"Son of the Blessed One" does.


Which one of your gods became a father?


Buddha!

And where's my cigar?


You really need to quit those. Bad habit.

Actually, I haven't had one in over three years. But you're right, one
cigar and I fall off the wagon, crash and burn.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
.
User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 01:28:27 PM
"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:95556E51Evicman@127.0.0.1...

One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Son of man:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:95556281Bvicman@127.0.0.1...

One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Son of man:

"Son of the Blessed One" does.


Which one of your gods became a father?


Buddha!

And where's my cigar?


You really need to quit those. Bad habit.


Actually, I haven't had one in over three years. But you're right, one
cigar and I fall off the wagon, crash and burn.

Is it fall off the wagon, or get on the wagon? Like Seinfeld, I always get
confused when people use it. Now if you have a cigar then I can see you
getting back on the cigar wagon, but if you have a cigar and fall off the
wagon, then what wagon were you on before having the cigar?


--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________

The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]

.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 02:44:42 PM
on 30 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:


Is it fall off the wagon, or get on the wagon? Like Seinfeld, I always
get confused when people use it. Now if you have a cigar then I can
see you getting back on the cigar wagon, but if you have a cigar and
fall off the wagon, then what wagon were you on before having the
cigar?

Hehehehe....
I guess that would be the "quit smoking" wagon.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
.





User: "Jez"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 09:37:59 AM
Son of man wrote:

"Son of the Blessed One" does.

More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 10:47:34 AM
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:41333bf0$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"Son of the Blessed One" does.

More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'

Are you omniscient?


--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing

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User: "Jez"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 03:20:55 PM
Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:41333bf0$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:


"Son of the Blessed One" does.


More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'



Are you omniscient?

No, I just smell funny.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 06:38:38 PM
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Jez:

Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:41333bf0$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:


"Son of the Blessed One" does.


More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'



Are you omniscient?


No, I just smell funny.

Omniscent?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 06:47:55 AM
Vic Sagerquist wrote:

One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Jez:


Son of man wrote:


"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:41333bf0$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...


Son of man wrote:



"Son of the Blessed One" does.


More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'



Are you omniscient?


No, I just smell funny.



Omniscent?

Hehe !!
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
.



User: "Robert Epstein"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 30 Aug 2004 10:55:19 PM
Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:41333bf0$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:


"Son of the Blessed One" does.


More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'



Are you omniscient?

are you?


--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing




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User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 09:30:01 AM
"Robert Epstein" <r.epstein@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:41333bf0$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:


"Son of the Blessed One" does.


More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'



Are you omniscient?


are you?

No. Never said I was. But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his
mother Mary.
Anything else?




--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing





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User: "Robert Epstein"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 01 Sep 2004 11:32:21 PM
Son of man wrote:

"Robert Epstein" <r.epstein@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4133F615.3000403@verizon.net...


Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:41333bf0$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...


Son of man wrote:



"Son of the Blessed One" does.


More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'



Are you omniscient?


are you?



No. Never said I was. But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his
mother Mary.

Anything else?

so then you're just scient, without the omni? well thanks for sharing.
robert
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User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 02 Sep 2004 09:22:51 AM
"Robert Epstein" <r.epstein@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4136A1D4.2050908@verizon.net...



Son of man wrote:

"Robert Epstein" <r.epstein@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:4133F615.3000403@verizon.net...


Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:41333bf0$0$20244$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...


Son of man wrote:



"Son of the Blessed One" does.


More like 'son of the non-existent fantasy'



Are you omniscient?


are you?



No. Never said I was. But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his
mother Mary.

Anything else?


so then you're just scient, without the omni? well thanks for sharing.

Anytime.


robert

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User: "socode"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 10:08:04 AM
Son of man wrote:

But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.

Pity you didn't take a camera.
socode
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User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 11:03:24 AM
"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...

Son of man wrote:

But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.

It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


socode

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User: "Jez"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 11:45:21 AM
Son of man wrote:

"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...

Son of man wrote:

But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.

No the vision IS an hallucination.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
.
User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 12:04:32 PM
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...

Son of man wrote:

But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.

No the vision IS an hallucination.

Define hallucination.


--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing

.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 02:25:46 PM
Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...


Son of man wrote:


But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.



Define hallucination.

A simple one...
1. Perception of visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, or
gustatory experiences without an external stimulus and with a compelling
sense of their reality, usually resulting from a mental disorder or as a
response to a drug.
2. The objects or events so perceived.
2. A false or mistaken idea; a delusion.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype ID callto://hellward
.

User: "Robert Epstein"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 01 Sep 2004 11:44:42 PM
Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...


Son of man wrote:


But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.



Define hallucination.

I'm afraid it means something that is experienced that is not really
there. Someone who has obviously never had a vision....
robert
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 12:52:12 PM
on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...

Son of man wrote:

But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.

No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.


Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.
Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder
of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION
How would *you* define it?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
.
User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 01:09:32 PM
"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95566E998E73Dvicman@127.0.0.1...

on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...

Son of man wrote:

But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.

No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.



Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.

Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder
of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION

How would *you* define it?

That sounds about correct. I definitely didn't have a hallucination.


--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________

The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]

.
User: "Jez"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 02:26:55 PM
Son of man wrote:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95566E998E73Dvicman@127.0.0.1...

on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:


"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...


Son of man wrote:


But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.



Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.

Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder
of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION

How would *you* define it?



That sounds about correct. I definitely didn't have a hallucination.

Ok, I'll bite..........
Have you managed to hear the great universal sound 'Om' filling up the
universe ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype ID callto://hellward
.
User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 04:29:54 PM
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134d129$0$20250$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95566E998E73Dvicman@127.0.0.1...

on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:


"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...

Son of man wrote:

"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
news:ch248n$d2j$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...


Son of man wrote:


But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.



Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.

Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder
of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION

How would *you* define it?



That sounds about correct. I definitely didn't have a hallucination.


Ok, I'll bite..........

Have you managed to hear the great universal sound 'Om' filling up the
universe ?

Never. Throughout the experience there was nothing heard out of the
ordinary.


--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing

Skype ID callto://hellward

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User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 05:05:35 PM
"Son of man" <thepuppetmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:

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on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:


"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:

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Son of man wrote:


But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.



Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.

Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from
disorder
of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION

How would *you* define it?



That sounds about correct. I definitely didn't have a hallucination.


Ok, I'll bite..........

Have you managed to hear the great universal sound 'Om' filling up the
universe ?


Never. Throughout the experience there was nothing heard out of the
ordinary.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not criticizing anyone for not believing it
happened. I wouldn't expect you to believe anyone else either. Besides, if
it was meant to be known outside of my own experience it would have. It was
something personal between myself and Christ and his mother. However, in the
interest and pursuit of truth I did lay it out, exactly what had happened.
Not that it should matter or count towards anything else I've said. Just
something that happened.



--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing

Skype ID callto://hellward



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User: "Jez"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 06:03:47 PM
Son of man wrote:

"Son of man" <thepuppetmaster@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:


"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:



"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:


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Son of man wrote:



But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.



Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.

Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from
disorder
of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION

How would *you* define it?



That sounds about correct. I definitely didn't have a hallucination.


Ok, I'll bite..........

Have you managed to hear the great universal sound 'Om' filling up the
universe ?


Never. Throughout the experience there was nothing heard out of the
ordinary.



Don't get me wrong. I'm not criticizing anyone for not believing it
happened. I wouldn't expect you to believe anyone else either. Besides, if
it was meant to be known outside of my own experience it would have. It was
something personal between myself and Christ and his mother. However, in the
interest and pursuit of truth I did lay it out, exactly what had happened.
Not that it should matter or count towards anything else I've said. Just
something that happened.

As far as I see it Mankind has been seeing 'Gods' from time immemorial...
Mankind has used all kinds of hallucinogens and and carried out
practises which 'create' hallucinations,
since time immemorial....
And yes, I do think that mans ideas of 'God' came originally from plant
induced hallucinations.
Read some John Allegro....James Arthur.....Terrence Mckenna...and such
like........
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype ID callto://hellward
.


User: "Jez"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 05:59:35 PM
Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:


"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:



"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:


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Son of man wrote:



But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.



Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.

Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from disorder
of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION

How would *you* define it?



That sounds about correct. I definitely didn't have a hallucination.


Ok, I'll bite..........

Have you managed to hear the great universal sound 'Om' filling up the
universe ?



Never. Throughout the experience there was nothing heard out of the
ordinary.

How very boring. You're with the wrong 'God' dude.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype ID callto://hellward
.
User: "Son of man"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 31 Aug 2004 06:09:49 PM
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:


"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted, then
shouted:



"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...


Son of man wrote:


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Son of man wrote:



But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.



Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.

Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from
disorder
of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION

How would *you* define it?



That sounds about correct. I definitely didn't have a hallucination.


Ok, I'll bite..........

Have you managed to hear the great universal sound 'Om' filling up the
universe ?



Never. Throughout the experience there was nothing heard out of the
ordinary.


How very boring. You're with the wrong 'God' dude.

Nah, I rather enjoy peace and quiet with my 'God'. You know what boredom is?
It's mental agitation.



--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing

Skype ID callto://hellward

.

User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: The title "Son of God" doesn't do him justice 01 Sep 2004 11:42:30 AM
on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Jez dropped trou, farted, then shouted:

Son of man wrote:

"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:


"Vic Sagerquist" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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on 31 Aug 2004 in alt.atheism, Son of man dropped trou, farted,
then shouted:



"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4134ab4a$0$20246$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...


Son of man wrote:


"socode" <news@socode.com> wrote in message
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Son of man wrote:



But I am a witness to the risen Christ and also his mother
Mary.


Pity you didn't take a camera.



It wouldn't have made a difference. The vision is similar to a
hallucination, it's something visible to you only.


No the vision IS an hallucination.


Define hallucination.



Merriam-Webster online sums it up for me.

Main Entry: halˇluˇciˇnaˇtion
Pronunciation: h&-"lü-s&n-'A-sh&n
Function: noun
1 a : perception of objects with no reality usually arising from
disorder of the nervous system or in response to drugs (as LSD)
b : the object so perceived
2 : an unfounded or mistaken impression or notion : DELUSION

How would *you* define it?



That sounds about correct. I definitely didn't have a hallucination.


Ok, I'll bite..........

Have you managed to hear the great universal sound 'Om' filling up
the universe ?



Never. Throughout the experience there was nothing heard out of the
ordinary.


How very boring. You're with the wrong 'God' dude.


Yup. Thor is WAYYYY more fun.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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