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User: "johac"
Date: 28 May 2007 12:53:40 AM
Object: The training of a xtian terrorist
So when is this guy going to Guantanamo?
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OpEdNews
Original Content at
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bob_king_070525_onward_2c_christi
an_so.htm
May 27, 2007
Training Christian Terrorists
By Bob King
Visitors to Mark David Uhl's Myspace page will quickly learn that
Uhl is a student at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University, that he is a
devoted Christian, that his name means "Mighty Warrior" -- and that he
likes Will Smith's saccharine tear-up-the-club track, "Switch." Uhl
reveals his career ambitions on his page as well: "I will join the Army
as an officer after college." Already, Uhl was preparing in Liberty's
ROTC program.
Uhl waited until he was offline, however, to reveal his plot to kill
the family of itinerant Calvinist provocateur Fred Phelps (famous for
their "Fag Troops" rallies outside soldiers' funerals). The Phelpses
planned to protest Falwell's funeral, a bizarre stunt designed to
highlight Falwell's somehow insufficiently draconian attitude towards
homosexuals. Uhl made several bombs and allegedly told a family member
he planned to use them to attack the Phelps family.
He was arrested soon after and charged with manufacturing explosives.
But there is a crucial difference between Uhl and Cho: while Cho's
motives remain a source of intense debate, Uhl was an a devout
evangelical Christian who advocated religious violence in the name of
American nationalism. Uhl's blog, featured on his Myspace page, offers a
window into the political underpinnings of his bomb plot. In one post,
Uhl implores Christians to die on the battlefield for "Uncle Sam." He
justifies his call to arms by quoting several Biblical passages and
reminding his readers that the "gift of God" is eternal life.
There you will find him extolling fellow "Christians" to go kill and die
for their country, which this young man seems to have confabulated with
serving God. Seeing that Uhl is but one example of dozens of classes of
ROTC grads prepared with this most damnable and unchristian teaching, I
have to assume that, far from being a tragic exception, he was simply
acting according to the things he had learned.
Of course, those teachings demand that actions such as Phelps' be
punished, that they be sought out, hunted down and killed. That is the
obvious conclusion from the doctrine that is taught at Liberty U. And if
you were wondering "what sort of person could commit the Haditha
Massacre - well, here's an example of the sort of person that could. He
had napalm bombs. Not mere Molotov Cockails, mind you, but home-made
napalm with explosives to spread it over a wide area, intended to wipe
out not just Fred Phelps, but his entire family. I doubt the choice of
man-made "hellfire" was accidental.
I do wonder where he learned to make such weapons? It's hard to say, but
surely as an ROTC student, he'd have access to documents such as "The
Flaming Sword: Napalm and its Effects" a riveting discussion of the use
of Napalm by the military, it's political and psychological effects -
and two rather simple recipes for "Napalm A and Napalm B."
Some have argued that the "fire bomb is primarily an antipersonnel
weapon."26 So, what kind of effect does napalm have on human beings?
Napalm casualties result from heat related injuries and carbon monoxide
poisoning. Napalm's adhesive qualities and high temperature of
combustion usually cause third degree-burns, often burning into the
muscle tissue or even the bone. Particles from the white phosphorous
burster tube may contaminate the wound. The particles will continue to
burn within the victim and are very difficult to remove. In addition,
napalm burns cause other injuries: dehydration, heat stroke, renal
failure, and shock, which may precipitate death. Victims may also
succumb to heatstroke from the ambient air without any direct contact
with the attack.27 An explosive aerial bomb, on the other hand, causes
wounds by way of the percussive force in the blast zone, shrapnel, or
debris.
Very few of these injuries precipitate a quick death. Anthony
Carthew reporting for the New Republic captured the essence of the
weapon when he said "The most horrible thing about napalm and white
phosphorous: though the body is virtually drowned in flame, the victim
tends to live."28
Most people have a limited understanding of the sensations. It is
unlikely that many people have not suffered bullet wounds or shrapnel
wounds from explosives, but most people have suffered from burns at some
point in their life. Therefore, people can be empathetic to a napalm
burn victim. The fear of burning, and consequently napalms, is
cross-cultural. As stated earlier, fear of fire caused Japanese troops
to break cover in World War II. During the French Indochina War, a
Vietminh officer's diary records his experience in a napalm attack:
Immense sheets of flames, extending over hundreds of meters, it
seems to strike terror in the ranks of my soldiers...The men are now
fleeing in all directions and I cannot hold them back.29
Napalm's terrifying potential made it a potent military weapon, but
also a political hazard. "Indeed one of the chief military values of
napalm is its terrorizing effect on its victims."30 [emphasis mine]
A perfect weapon, both symbolically and practically speaking for a
Christian Terrorist. The literal fires of Hell.
The presumption that "good Christians" can and must judge others and
execute judgment upon those they find wanting has been the cornerstone
of fanatical evangelical teaching for decades now, and every once in a
while, some impressionable person takes the rhetoric a little more
seriously than the rhetoricians do. This is the comment I added to his
blog entry about going and dying for Christ.
Thank you for clearly personifying and explaining for the world the
theology and world-view of "Liberty University," and what sort of
brainwashed fanatical killers they are producing for the Military in the
name of Christ.
Fortunately, Penetantaries have good libraries and even Internet access.
It won't be terribly hard for you to find an intellectual foundation to
explain how suddenly the church leadership is suddenly denying any
connection to your actions, even though you were following their clear
leadership and intent.
Yes, my little Christian Soldier - you are what Falwell, Dobson,
Robertson, Bin Ladin and Abu-Kazowie refer to as "an expendable asset."
Fortunately for you, you had people who did not consider your pink *****
expendable and took steps to save you from yourself.
Regard the next few years as "grandmotherly kindness."
I regard this incident as strongly suggestive that Liberty U's ROTC
program is intended to turn out exactly the sort of officers that get
good men and women killed.
To quote Patton. "Nobody ever won a war by dying for his country. You
win a war by making some other poor dumb sonofabitch die for HIS
country." THAT is the attitude of a soldier - to live for the cause, not
to die for it. The person who is willing to die; even eager to die for a
cause is a terrorist, a living "smart bomb" waiting to be expended by
whatever "Dear Leader" has their frequency.
Being led into battle by a religious fanatic against religious fanatics
is not what our founders had in mind when they turned their backs on
Europe where such nonsense was depressingly common. This is also why
they sharply separated church and state.
So also concerns me that Falwell seems to have been preparing for
Cultural Warfare on a far more literal level than most would like to
believe - just as was Ted Haggard, with his church's unholy alliance
with the Air Force Academy. I think they have been stockpiling
brownshirts in case they need to stage a coup.
In other words, I see the "Religious Leaders" of the right covertly
preparing for the sort of future predicted in the "Left Behind" books -
and in that other "best seller" of the "right", The Turner Diaries.
If this seems like a great deal of gold to spin from one pile of straw,
let me remind you this is far from the first pile. There have been many,
many indicators of this sort of creeping intolerance over the last
couple of decades; language that was once only found on the websites of
neo-nazi and Klan sites is now uttered by folks such as Michelle Malkin,
with no apparent sense of shame.
Nor has it been the first act of fanatic violence spawned by right-wing
religious and secular intolerance - if the two may be separated at all.
The tragedies of Oklahoma City and Waco had at their root intolerance of
dissent and fear of a secular and tolerant civilization.
Let me close with one chilling thought; if it is reasonable to topple
the leadership of Iran, to invade, to bomb and kill it's citizens simply
because it is led by Islamic religious fanatics who WISH to have one or
two nuclear weapons, what should therefore be done when we have a nation
with many hundreds, if not thousands of nuclear weapons and reliable and
unstoppable delivery technology in the hands of CHRISTIAN religious
fanatics?
It's important to think of these matters.
It's a very tiny step from condemning all dissenters to hell - as
Robertson does, Dobson does, and Falwell did, and igniting hellfire to
light their way.
It's not just those likely to do something like this that are the issue;
it's those that are clearly willing to contemplate the possibility and
prepare a "fifth column" within our armed forces for "The Great Day of
Armageddon."
All those of a prudent nature and certainly those who take their
Christianity seriously need abandon the trivia of partisan political
preference, wake up and smell the napalm.
---
http://tinyurl.com/3ydsz3
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: "stoney"

Title: Re: The training of a xtian terrorist 02 Jun 2007 03:29:33 PM
On Sun, 27 May 2007 22:53:40 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism

So when is this guy going to Guantanamo?

Never. He's the right kind of terrorist.

OpEdNews

Original Content at
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_bob_king_070525_onward_2c_christi
an_so.htm

May 27, 2007

Training Christian Terrorists

By Bob King


Visitors to Mark David Uhl's Myspace page will quickly learn that
Uhl is a student at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University, that he is a
devoted Christian, that his name means "Mighty Warrior" -- and that he
likes Will Smith's saccharine tear-up-the-club track, "Switch." Uhl
reveals his career ambitions on his page as well: "I will join the Army
as an officer after college." Already, Uhl was preparing in Liberty's
ROTC program.

Uhl waited until he was offline, however, to reveal his plot to kill
the family of itinerant Calvinist provocateur Fred Phelps (famous for
their "Fag Troops" rallies outside soldiers' funerals). The Phelpses
planned to protest Falwell's funeral, a bizarre stunt designed to
highlight Falwell's somehow insufficiently draconian attitude towards
homosexuals. Uhl made several bombs and allegedly told a family member
he planned to use them to attack the Phelps family.

He was arrested soon after and charged with manufacturing explosives.

But there is a crucial difference between Uhl and Cho: while Cho's
motives remain a source of intense debate, Uhl was an a devout
evangelical Christian who advocated religious violence in the name of
American nationalism. Uhl's blog, featured on his Myspace page, offers a
window into the political underpinnings of his bomb plot. In one post,
Uhl implores Christians to die on the battlefield for "Uncle Sam." He
justifies his call to arms by quoting several Biblical passages and
reminding his readers that the "gift of God" is eternal life.
There you will find him extolling fellow "Christians" to go kill and die
for their country, which this young man seems to have confabulated with
serving God. Seeing that Uhl is but one example of dozens of classes of
ROTC grads prepared with this most damnable and unchristian teaching, I
have to assume that, far from being a tragic exception, he was simply
acting according to the things he had learned.

Of course, those teachings demand that actions such as Phelps' be
punished, that they be sought out, hunted down and killed. That is the
obvious conclusion from the doctrine that is taught at Liberty U. And if
you were wondering "what sort of person could commit the Haditha
Massacre - well, here's an example of the sort of person that could. He
had napalm bombs. Not mere Molotov Cockails, mind you, but home-made
napalm with explosives to spread it over a wide area, intended to wipe
out not just Fred Phelps, but his entire family. I doubt the choice of
man-made "hellfire" was accidental.

I do wonder where he learned to make such weapons? It's hard to say, but
surely as an ROTC student, he'd have access to documents such as "The
Flaming Sword: Napalm and its Effects" a riveting discussion of the use
of Napalm by the military, it's political and psychological effects -
and two rather simple recipes for "Napalm A and Napalm B."

Some have argued that the "fire bomb is primarily an antipersonnel
weapon."26 So, what kind of effect does napalm have on human beings?
Napalm casualties result from heat related injuries and carbon monoxide
poisoning. Napalm's adhesive qualities and high temperature of
combustion usually cause third degree-burns, often burning into the
muscle tissue or even the bone. Particles from the white phosphorous
burster tube may contaminate the wound. The particles will continue to
burn within the victim and are very difficult to remove. In addition,
napalm burns cause other injuries: dehydration, heat stroke, renal
failure, and shock, which may precipitate death. Victims may also
succumb to heatstroke from the ambient air without any direct contact
with the attack.27 An explosive aerial bomb, on the other hand, causes
wounds by way of the percussive force in the blast zone, shrapnel, or
debris.

Very few of these injuries precipitate a quick death. Anthony
Carthew reporting for the New Republic captured the essence of the
weapon when he said "The most horrible thing about napalm and white
phosphorous: though the body is virtually drowned in flame, the victim
tends to live."28

Most people have a limited understanding of the sensations. It is
unlikely that many people have not suffered bullet wounds or shrapnel
wounds from explosives, but most people have suffered from burns at some
point in their life. Therefore, people can be empathetic to a napalm
burn victim. The fear of burning, and consequently napalms, is
cross-cultural. As stated earlier, fear of fire caused Japanese troops
to break cover in World War II. During the French Indochina War, a
Vietminh officer's diary records his experience in a napalm attack:

Immense sheets of flames, extending over hundreds of meters, it
seems to strike terror in the ranks of my soldiers...The men are now
fleeing in all directions and I cannot hold them back.29


Napalm's terrifying potential made it a potent military weapon, but
also a political hazard. "Indeed one of the chief military values of
napalm is its terrorizing effect on its victims."30 [emphasis mine]

A perfect weapon, both symbolically and practically speaking for a
Christian Terrorist. The literal fires of Hell.

The presumption that "good Christians" can and must judge others and
execute judgment upon those they find wanting has been the cornerstone
of fanatical evangelical teaching for decades now, and every once in a
while, some impressionable person takes the rhetoric a little more
seriously than the rhetoricians do. This is the comment I added to his
blog entry about going and dying for Christ.

Thank you for clearly personifying and explaining for the world the
theology and world-view of "Liberty University," and what sort of
brainwashed fanatical killers they are producing for the Military in the
name of Christ.

Fortunately, Penetantaries have good libraries and even Internet access.
It won't be terribly hard for you to find an intellectual foundation to
explain how suddenly the church leadership is suddenly denying any
connection to your actions, even though you were following their clear
leadership and intent.

Yes, my little Christian Soldier - you are what Falwell, Dobson,
Robertson, Bin Ladin and Abu-Kazowie refer to as "an expendable asset."

Fortunately for you, you had people who did not consider your pink *****
expendable and took steps to save you from yourself.

Regard the next few years as "grandmotherly kindness."

I regard this incident as strongly suggestive that Liberty U's ROTC
program is intended to turn out exactly the sort of officers that get
good men and women killed.

To quote Patton. "Nobody ever won a war by dying for his country. You
win a war by making some other poor dumb sonofabitch die for HIS
country." THAT is the attitude of a soldier - to live for the cause, not
to die for it. The person who is willing to die; even eager to die for a
cause is a terrorist, a living "smart bomb" waiting to be expended by
whatever "Dear Leader" has their frequency.

Being led into battle by a religious fanatic against religious fanatics
is not what our founders had in mind when they turned their backs on
Europe where such nonsense was depressingly common. This is also why
they sharply separated church and state.

So also concerns me that Falwell seems to have been preparing for
Cultural Warfare on a far more literal level than most would like to
believe - just as was Ted Haggard, with his church's unholy alliance
with the Air Force Academy. I think they have been stockpiling
brownshirts in case they need to stage a coup.

In other words, I see the "Religious Leaders" of the right covertly
preparing for the sort of future predicted in the "Left Behind" books -
and in that other "best seller" of the "right", The Turner Diaries.

If this seems like a great deal of gold to spin from one pile of straw,
let me remind you this is far from the first pile. There have been many,
many indicators of this sort of creeping intolerance over the last
couple of decades; language that was once only found on the websites of
neo-nazi and Klan sites is now uttered by folks such as Michelle Malkin,
with no apparent sense of shame.

Nor has it been the first act of fanatic violence spawned by right-wing
religious and secular intolerance - if the two may be separated at all.
The tragedies of Oklahoma City and Waco had at their root intolerance of
dissent and fear of a secular and tolerant civilization.

Let me close with one chilling thought; if it is reasonable to topple
the leadership of Iran, to invade, to bomb and kill it's citizens simply
because it is led by Islamic religious fanatics who WISH to have one or
two nuclear weapons, what should therefore be done when we have a nation
with many hundreds, if not thousands of nuclear weapons and reliable and
unstoppable delivery technology in the hands of CHRISTIAN religious
fanatics?

It's important to think of these matters.

It's a very tiny step from condemning all dissenters to hell - as
Robertson does, Dobson does, and Falwell did, and igniting hellfire to
light their way.

It's not just those likely to do something like this that are the issue;
it's those that are clearly willing to contemplate the possibility and
prepare a "fifth column" within our armed forces for "The Great Day of
Armageddon."

All those of a prudent nature and certainly those who take their
Christianity seriously need abandon the trivia of partisan political
preference, wake up and smell the napalm.
---
http://tinyurl.com/3ydsz3

--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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