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"Fred Stone" |
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20 May 2007 03:07:09 PM |
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The United States of Islam |
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006332.php
Does the Muslim American Society want an Islamic government in the
United States?
Daveed Gartenstein-Ross meets the slick Mahdi Bray on PAX-TV to debate
the prevalence of Sharia sentiments in the US. "MAS's Muslim Brotherhood
Problem," by Gartenstein-Ross in the Weekly Standard:
ON MAY 14, 2005, PAX-TV's Faith Under Fire broadcast a debate that I
took part in against Mahdi Bray, the executive director of the Muslim
American Society's (MAS) Freedom Foundation. Bray had selected the
debate topic in advance, and chose to argue about "The United States of
Islam?"--that is, whether American Muslims wanted to see Islamic law
(sharia) implemented in the United States. While I unwaveringly agreed
that most American Muslims don't want to see the United States ruled by
Islamic law, I nonetheless jumped at the chance to debate this topic
against Bray. After all, the Chicago Tribune recently published a story
detailing how the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood operates in the
United States as none other than MAS. So while most American Muslims
don't want to see the United States governed by sharia, Bray's
organization does. And while researching for the debate, I found that
MAS--except in its most public of statements--is quite open about its
agenda and allegiances. Even a brief review of various MAS chapters'
websites provides a revealing look at what the national organization is
teaching its members.
THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD is an international Islamist group that
largely operates underground and behind the scenes, with branches in
about 70 countries. The Brotherhood was founded in 1928 by Hassan al-
Banna, an Egyptian schoolteacher who--in the wake of the collapse of the
Ottoman Empire and abolition of the caliphate--bemoaned the sickness of
the Ummah, or larger Muslim community. The Brotherhood's response to
this perceived sickness was to emphasize doctrinally that Islam
encompasses all the affairs of man. As al-Banna wrote, "Islam is faith
and worship, a country and a citizenship, a religion and a state. It is
spirituality and hard work. It is a Qur'an and a sword." The group also
emphasizes that Islam is a universal faith. As al-Banna put it, Islam
"has encompassed all aspects of human life, for all peoples and nations,
and for all times and ages."
Because the Brotherhood views Islam as all-encompassing and
universal, one of its highest goals is to spread Islamic law. The
Chicago Tribune explains that the controversial "ultimate goal" of the
U.S. Brotherhood is "to create Muslim states overseas and, they hope,
someday in America as well." Brotherhood members did emphasize to the
Tribune that they operate within the laws of the countries where they
live:
They stress that they do not believe in overthrowing the U.S.
government, but rather that they want as many people as possible to
convert to Islam so that one day--perhaps generations from now--a
majority of Americans will support a society governed by Islamic law.
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Of course, that's what any Christian "theocrat" will tell you too.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic
organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its
enemies."
--
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: The United States of Islam |
20 May 2007 05:06:50 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006332.php
Does the Muslim American Society want an Islamic government in the
United States?
What IS it with you and Muslims, Fred? Are you scared of them?
Christians: 76%
Muslims: 1%
Number of Christian Politicans: 100%-1
Number of Muslim Politicians: 1
Number of Christian Presidents: About 40
Number of Muslim Presidents: 0
Man, Fred, you sound just like those Christians who think that atheists
are going to destroy things like Christmas or Christianity as a whole.
Paranoid, the both of you...just how Osama wants it.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: The United States of Islam |
22 May 2007 05:51:12 AM |
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DanielSan <danielsangeo@comcast.net> wrote in
news:f9-dnbEjOYH9W83bnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006332.php
Does the Muslim American Society want an Islamic government in the
United States?
What IS it with you and Muslims, Fred? Are you scared of them?
Christians: 76%
Muslims: 1%
America isn't the only country in the world, Daniel.
Number of Christian Politicans: 100%-1
Number of Muslim Politicians: 1
America isn't the only country in the world, Daniel.
Number of Christian Presidents: About 40
Number of Muslim Presidents: 0
America isn't the only country in the world, Daniel. You sure are
isolationist when it suits you.
Man, Fred, you sound just like those Christians who think that
atheists are going to destroy things like Christmas or Christianity as
a whole. Paranoid, the both of you...just how Osama wants it.
DenialSan, you sound just like all those *other* dumbass liberals who
think that Christians are more dangerous than Islamist terrorists. Just
how Osama wants it.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic
organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its
enemies."
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: The United States of Islam |
22 May 2007 07:55:17 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
DanielSan <danielsangeo@comcast.net> wrote in
news:f9-dnbEjOYH9W83bnZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@comcast.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/006332.php
Does the Muslim American Society want an Islamic government in the
United States?
What IS it with you and Muslims, Fred? Are you scared of them?
Christians: 76%
Muslims: 1%
America isn't the only country in the world, Daniel.
Thank you, a whole bunch, Fred, for totally missing the point AND
changing the subject at the same time. The article is about MAS wanting
an Islamic government in the United States.
Number of Christian Politicans: 100%-1
Number of Muslim Politicians: 1
America isn't the only country in the world, Daniel.
See above.
Number of Christian Presidents: About 40
Number of Muslim Presidents: 0
America isn't the only country in the world, Daniel.
See above.
You sure are
isolationist when it suits you.
What?! You change topics when it suits you. You post an article about
threatening a change in the United States, then you say that it's NOT
about the United States.
Try to pick a subject and stick to it, please.
Man, Fred, you sound just like those Christians who think that
atheists are going to destroy things like Christmas or Christianity as
a whole. Paranoid, the both of you...just how Osama wants it.
DenialSan, you sound just like all those *other* dumbass liberals who
think that Christians are more dangerous than Islamist terrorists. Just
how Osama wants it.
Really. And which of Osama's screeds say that, Fred?
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