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10 Oct 2005 05:56:33 PM |
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The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies. Such superb
organization suggests an Organizer. Also, all those heavenly bodies are
governed by definite physical laws. That suggests a Lawgiver. And on
earth, ever so many special conditions exist for life, suggesting a
purposeful Life-Giver. Commenting on this, Science News says:
“The universe we see around us looks to us unique, and when we study it
a little we begin to see that it has certain very special properties
without which we could not exist. . . . they seem to require very
special initial conditions.
“The laws of physics that operate in our universe seem very special too.”
These things bother scientists who are evolutionists and atheists. These
feel that the universe “evolved” by itself, without a Supreme Organizer,
Lawmaker, and Life-Giver.
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience. Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American notes:
“As we look out into the universe and identify the many accidents of
physics and astronomy that have worked together to our benefit, it
almost seems as if the universe must in some sense have known that we
were coming.”
The more that is learned about the universe, the more evident it becomes
that there is design behind it, which requires a Designer. Regarding
this, Science News states:
“Contemplation of these things disturbs cosmologists because it seems as
if such particular and precise conditions could hardly have arisen at
random. One way to deal with the question is to say the whole thing was
contrived and lay it on Divine Providence.”
Are most scientists willing to do that? No, but humble persons are
willing. They acknowledge that such immensity, precision, law, and
unique conditions for life could never happen by accident, but are the
products of a superior mind.
Since many astronomers do not believe in a God that controls the
universe, this has led to conflicting theories about the nature and
future of it.
In 1929 astronomer Edwin Hubble concluded that the universe was steadily
expanding. Later observations of other astronomers seemed to confirm
that the clusters of galaxies were moving apart from one another. This
theory apparently supported the idea that the universe began with a “big
bang,” from a central mass, and then spread out from there.
Some astronomers now suggest that the rate of expansion is slowing down
slightly. They think that eventually this expansion will come to a halt,
and that then gravity will pull the galaxies inward, back to where they
began, merging in a mass of matter. Then, they theorize, that will “blow
up” again in another “big bang.” This process, some believe, will be
repeated over and over again, so that the universe would be
“oscillating.” How much time is given for such a process? About eighty
billion years for each cycle—forty billion to expand, and forty billion
to contract.
How sound are such calculations? Admittedly it is all speculation.
Scientists do not know what will happen in the future. True, today their
instruments seem to indicate an expanding universe—but one that is
slightly slowing down. Yet, in view of the repeated abandoning of past
theories, it would be foolhardy to think that such present theories are
ultimate truths.
For instance, scientists admit that the amount of matter in the universe
does not appear to be nearly enough to supply the powerful gravity
needed to slow down, stop, and then reverse the expansion believed to be
taking place. If that is so, then the clusters of galaxies would
continue to fly apart forever, as many astronomers contend.
Yet, Dr. James Gunn of the California Institute of Technology notes that
it has long been known that there is also not enough material to provide
the gravity needed even to hold the galaxies together in clusters. So
every cluster of galaxies should long ago have broken up. Each galaxy
should long ago have drifted away from the others in its group. But,
admittedly, that has not been the case, for they are bound together in
clusters.
It is obvious that, while much has been learned about the awesome
universe we live in, far more is unknown. Theories come and go. What was
“certain” yesterday is uncertain today. Thus, after a recent
astronomers’ conference, the New York Times stated: “As has become
evident in the talks here, there is still no consensus as to the nature
of the cosmos.” And Science News concluded: “To sum it all up, cosmology
is far from settled (if we can hope that it ever will be). Observation,
theory and argument bubble on.”
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
11 Oct 2005 12:26:41 AM |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:33 -0400, Omnius
<SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote:
The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies.
Compared to what? Have you compared our universe to thousands of
others? If not how can you say it is unique?
snip
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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11 Oct 2005 08:06:04 PM |
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"Omnius" another *JABRIOL* sock = <SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote in
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The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies. Such superb
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Please remove "rec.ponds" from any replies to *Jabriol* aka Omnius as this
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Thanks
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... JAB SOCK & TROLL ALERT |
11 Oct 2005 08:35:25 PM |
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You are not the moderator of these unmoderated groups. Request Denied
Cracklin' wrote:
"Omnius" another *JABRIOL* sock = <SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote in
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The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies. Such superb
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Please remove "rec.ponds" from any replies to *Jabriol* aka Omnius as this
is off-topic for us.
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... JAB SOCK & TROLL ALERT |
11 Oct 2005 11:20:31 PM |
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<usenethegemon@gmail.com> another JABRIOL sock-puppet wrote in message
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You are not the moderator of these unmoderated groups. Request Denied
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Its not for you to speak for others JABRIOL. Not everyone is as
inconsiderate and self-centered as you are!
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12 Oct 2005 05:58:50 PM |
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Cracklin' wrote:
<usenethegemon@gmail.com> another JABRIOL sock-puppet wrote in message
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Its not for you to speak for others JABRIOL. Not everyone is as
inconsiderate and self-centered as you are!
And yet you happily go along telling people what to do with your Troll
Alerts, which of course makes you a Troll.
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| User: "~Roy" |
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12 Oct 2005 06:20:54 AM |
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Yep, but you seem to hold the monopoly on being areal ***** as well
as a few other things in all those catagories.
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 23:20:31 -0500, "Cracklin'"
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| User: "Pete Lawrence" |
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11 Oct 2005 06:04:07 PM |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:26:41 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:33 -0400, Omnius
<SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote:
The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies.
Compared to what? Have you compared our universe to thousands of
others? If not how can you say it is unique?
The cosmologists nightmare! You can't draw a meaningful graph with one
data-point ;-)
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http://www.digitalsky.org.uk
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| User: "thomas p" |
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12 Oct 2005 02:35:51 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:04:07 +0100, Pete Lawrence
<pete.lawrence.nospam@pbl33.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:26:41 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:33 -0400, Omnius
<SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote:
The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies.
Compared to what? Have you compared our universe to thousands of
others? If not how can you say it is unique?
The cosmologists nightmare! You can't draw a meaningful graph with one
data-point ;-)
Little difficulties like that do not disturb fools who talk about
unique arrangements of galaxies. This particular idiot didn't even
bother to respond, which was pretty predictable.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... PLEASE REMOVE REC. PONDS |
12 Oct 2005 03:30:42 AM |
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Why are these replies to JABRIOL'S cross-posted threads sent to rec.ponds
and AFNs when it's off topic for us? Can you please check where your
replies are going before hitting that send button?
Thanks.......
"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:04:07 +0100, Pete Lawrence
<pete.lawrence.nospam@pbl33.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:26:41 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote:
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| User: "Starlord" |
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11 Oct 2005 01:38:42 AM |
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There is only ONE Universe and it contains all the Star;s and Galaxys we can
see to the edge of time itself.
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The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
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"thomas p" <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in message
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:33 -0400, Omnius
<SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote:
Compared to what? Have you compared our universe to thousands of
others? If not how can you say it is unique?
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| User: "chuck" |
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12 Oct 2005 10:40:21 PM |
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"Starlord" <starlord@inreach.com> wrote in
news:YpydnU0NM82Lw9beRVn-oA@inreach.com:
There is only ONE Universe and it contains all the Star;s and Galaxys
we can see to the edge of time itself.
Correction we can see to the edge of when OUR universe was created (or
almost) and have NO idea about the existance/non-existance of any others
which might exist outside of that observable space-time.
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| User: "zarathustra" |
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13 Oct 2005 11:44:31 PM |
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chuck <chuck@nil.car> drooled:
"Starlord" <starlord@inreach.com> wrote in
news:YpydnU0NM82Lw9beRVn-oA@inreach.com:
There is only ONE Universe and it contains all the Star;s and Galaxys
we can see to the edge of time itself.
Correction we can see to the edge of when OUR universe was created (or
almost) and have NO idea about the existance/non-existance of any others
which might exist outside of that observable space-time.
Does that include the one on my fingernail?
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12 Oct 2005 03:11:46 AM |
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"Starlord" <starlord@inreach.com> wrote in message
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There is only ONE Universe
Prove it.
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| User: "DeEler Expoza" |
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11 Oct 2005 11:28:07 AM |
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PLEASE remove rec.ponds and AFN from these Jabriol threads. They're
off-topic for these NGs.
Thanks.
DeeDee.................
"Starlord" <starlord@inreach.com> wrote in message
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There is only ONE Universe and it contains all the Star;s and Galaxys we
can see to the edge of time itself.
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| User: "Erasmus" |
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11 Oct 2005 05:50:22 PM |
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thomas p wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:33 -0400, Omnius
<SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote:
The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies.
Compared to what? Have you compared our universe to thousands of
others? If not how can you say it is unique?
How many Universes are in exsistence? Give us a few names and locations.
DC multiverse don't count.
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| User: "thomas p" |
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12 Oct 2005 02:35:51 AM |
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On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:50:22 -0400, Erasmus <Metalmind@dream.org>
wrote:
thomas p wrote:
On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:33 -0400, Omnius
<SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote:
The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies.
Compared to what? Have you compared our universe to thousands of
others? If not how can you say it is unique?
How many Universes are in exsistence? Give us a few names and locations.
DC multiverse don't count.
That was pretty much my point.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
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11 Oct 2005 10:21:18 AM |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:56:33 -0400, Omnius <SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote:
The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies.
Well there is a pointless opening.
How many different arrangements can "one" have?
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10 Oct 2005 10:34:26 PM |
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Please remove rec.ponds, AFN and ARJ-W from this off-topic mindless JABRIOL
sock-puppet thread.
Thanks for your cooperation. ;-)
DeeDee........
"Omnius" JABRIOL sock-puppet # 245<SynchronizedWorlds@earth.net> wrote in
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The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies. Such superb
organization suggests an Organizer. Also, all those heavenly bodies are
SNIP!
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| User: "Peter Breed" |
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11 Oct 2005 02:36:48 PM |
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Surely by Occam's razor, the simplest (and hence the best explanation)
is based on the weak anthropomorphic principle, ie we see the universe
the way we do, because the physical laws which apply in our universe are
the one which give rise to we the observers.
There may well be other universes in which there are other "intelligent"
beings to observe different physical laws, or different starting
conditions or different outcomes of the quantum mechanical dice, and
those universes in which no intelligence is possible, but since by
definition we cannot observe or interact with alternate universes,
speculation seems rather pointless. However to assume that this universe
is unique and special, is as pointless as saying human beings are
special and unique. Do we need to invoke a "Life or Law Giver"? Not at all.
Peter
PS Please stop posting this stuff on rec.ponds, interesting thought it
may be :-)
Omnius wrote:
The size of the universe is truly awesome. But so is its very unique
arrangement of galaxies, and clusters of galaxies. Such superb
organization suggests an Organizer. Also, all those heavenly bodies are
governed by definite physical laws. That suggests a Lawgiver. And on
earth, ever so many special conditions exist for life, suggesting a
purposeful Life-Giver. Commenting on this, Science News says:
“The universe we see around us looks to us unique, and when we study it
a little we begin to see that it has certain very special properties
without which we could not exist. . . . they seem to require very
special initial conditions.
“The laws of physics that operate in our universe seem very special too.”
These things bother scientists who are evolutionists and atheists. These
feel that the universe “evolved” by itself, without a Supreme Organizer,
Lawmaker, and Life-Giver.
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience. Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American notes:
“As we look out into the universe and identify the many accidents of
physics and astronomy that have worked together to our benefit, it
almost seems as if the universe must in some sense have known that we
were coming.”
The more that is learned about the universe, the more evident it becomes
that there is design behind it, which requires a Designer. Regarding
this, Science News states:
“Contemplation of these things disturbs cosmologists because it seems as
if such particular and precise conditions could hardly have arisen at
random. One way to deal with the question is to say the whole thing was
contrived and lay it on Divine Providence.”
Are most scientists willing to do that? No, but humble persons are
willing. They acknowledge that such immensity, precision, law, and
unique conditions for life could never happen by accident, but are the
products of a superior mind.
Since many astronomers do not believe in a God that controls the
universe, this has led to conflicting theories about the nature and
future of it.
In 1929 astronomer Edwin Hubble concluded that the universe was steadily
expanding. Later observations of other astronomers seemed to confirm
that the clusters of galaxies were moving apart from one another. This
theory apparently supported the idea that the universe began with a “big
bang,” from a central mass, and then spread out from there.
Some astronomers now suggest that the rate of expansion is slowing down
slightly. They think that eventually this expansion will come to a halt,
and that then gravity will pull the galaxies inward, back to where they
began, merging in a mass of matter. Then, they theorize, that will “blow
up” again in another “big bang.” This process, some believe, will be
repeated over and over again, so that the universe would be
“oscillating.” How much time is given for such a process? About eighty
billion years for each cycle—forty billion to expand, and forty billion
to contract.
How sound are such calculations? Admittedly it is all speculation.
Scientists do not know what will happen in the future. True, today their
instruments seem to indicate an expanding universe—but one that is
slightly slowing down. Yet, in view of the repeated abandoning of past
theories, it would be foolhardy to think that such present theories are
ultimate truths.
For instance, scientists admit that the amount of matter in the universe
does not appear to be nearly enough to supply the powerful gravity
needed to slow down, stop, and then reverse the expansion believed to be
taking place. If that is so, then the clusters of galaxies would
continue to fly apart forever, as many astronomers contend.
Yet, Dr. James Gunn of the California Institute of Technology notes that
it has long been known that there is also not enough material to provide
the gravity needed even to hold the galaxies together in clusters. So
every cluster of galaxies should long ago have broken up. Each galaxy
should long ago have drifted away from the others in its group. But,
admittedly, that has not been the case, for they are bound together in
clusters.
It is obvious that, while much has been learned about the awesome
universe we live in, far more is unknown. Theories come and go. What was
“certain” yesterday is uncertain today. Thus, after a recent
astronomers’ conference, the New York Times stated: “As has become
evident in the talks here, there is still no consensus as to the nature
of the cosmos.” And Science News concluded: “To sum it all up, cosmology
is far from settled (if we can hope that it ever will be). Observation,
theory and argument bubble on.”
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04 Feb 2006 01:47:14 PM |
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Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience. Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of physics and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that believe in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs as if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science. It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy; it is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God are real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
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04 Feb 2006 03:16:48 PM |
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nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience. Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of physics and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that believe in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs as if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science. It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy; it is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God are real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use the same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get another clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
05 Feb 2006 07:45:30 PM |
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On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience. Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of physics and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that believe in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs as if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science. It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy; it is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God are real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use the same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get another clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
You are a loon.
.
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| User: "nightbat" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
05 Feb 2006 10:03:22 PM |
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nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience. Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of physics and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that believe in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs as if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science. It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy; it is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God are real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use the same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get another clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
You are a loon.
nightbat
It is reported the alien Gray's are loons and perverted do you
believe it? Some of the greatest minds were considered loons at one time
or another but where would mankind be without them? One of my Science
Officers is Loonie and one of my best. Never judge a book by its cover,
wait till you read it from cover to cover, for you never know what you
might discover.
on alert,
the nightbat
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
06 Feb 2006 03:27:33 AM |
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On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:03:22 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E6CA89.D42113EF@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience. Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of physics and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that believe in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs as if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science. It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy; it is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God are real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use the same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get another clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
You are a loon.
nightbat
It is reported the alien Gray's are loons and perverted do you
believe it? Some of the greatest minds were considered loons at one time
or another but where would mankind be without them? One of my Science
Officers is Loonie and one of my best. Never judge a book by its cover,
wait till you read it from cover to cover, for you never know what you
might discover.
on alert,
the nightbat
Thankyou; you have confirmed my psychiatric assessment of you.
.
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| User: "nightbat" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
06 Feb 2006 06:38:43 AM |
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nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:03:22 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E6CA89.D42113EF@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience. Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of physics and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that believe in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs as if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science. It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy; it is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God are real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use the same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get another clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
You are a loon.
nightbat
It is reported the alien Gray's are loons and perverted do you
believe it? Some of the greatest minds were considered loons at one time
or another but where would mankind be without them? One of my Science
Officers is Loonie and one of my best. Never judge a book by its cover,
wait till you read it from cover to cover, for you never know what you
might discover.
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
Thankyou; you have confirmed my psychiatric assessment of you.
nightbat
Good and I'll give you another free second opinion, you're net
funny too now run along with the rest of the coffee boys, have fun, and
don't forget to write.
on alert,
the nightbat
.
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| User: "Honest John" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
06 Feb 2006 09:57:21 AM |
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"nightbat" <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message
news:43E74353.97A8945F@home.ffni.com...
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:03:22 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E6CA89.D42113EF@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience.
Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every
living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex
organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an
Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American
notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of physics
and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super
Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that
always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to
our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that believe
in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs as
if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science.
It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy; it
is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God are
real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt
Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use the
same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get another
clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus
where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by
me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater
force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal
gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
You are a loon.
nightbat
It is reported the alien Gray's are loons and perverted do you
believe it? Some of the greatest minds were considered loons at one
time
or another but where would mankind be without them? One of my Science
Officers is Loonie and one of my best. Never judge a book by its cover,
wait till you read it from cover to cover, for you never know what you
might discover.
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
Thankyou; you have confirmed my psychiatric assessment of you.
nightbat
Good and I'll give you another free second opinion, you're net
funny too now run along with the rest of the coffee boys, have fun, and
don't forget to write.
on alert,
the nightbat
You were a little hard on the boy, weren't you nightbat ?
HJ
.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
06 Feb 2006 09:11:46 PM |
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:57:21 -0600, "Honest John"
<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Yb2dncA216A57HreRVn-hQ@centurytel.net>
"nightbat" <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message
news:43E74353.97A8945F@home.ffni.com...
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:03:22 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E6CA89.D42113EF@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience.
Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every
living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex
organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an
Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific American
notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of physics
and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super
Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that
always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to
our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that believe
in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs as
if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science.
It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy; it
is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God are
real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt
Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use the
same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get another
clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus
where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by
me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater
force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal
gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
You are a loon.
nightbat
It is reported the alien Gray's are loons and perverted do you
believe it? Some of the greatest minds were considered loons at one
time
or another but where would mankind be without them? One of my Science
Officers is Loonie and one of my best. Never judge a book by its cover,
wait till you read it from cover to cover, for you never know what you
might discover.
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
Thankyou; you have confirmed my psychiatric assessment of you.
nightbat
Good and I'll give you another free second opinion, you're net
funny too now run along with the rest of the coffee boys, have fun, and
don't forget to write.
on alert,
the nightbat
You were a little hard on the boy, weren't you nightbat ?
HJ
Do you mean to say that you actually understand what fruitbat's
incoherent ravings mean?
.
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| User: "Honest John" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
06 Feb 2006 10:48:55 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:2t3gu11pc8tlv0r30p8qlg6a6cq0dti2ba@4ax.com...
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:57:21 -0600, "Honest John"
<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Yb2dncA216A57HreRVn-hQ@centurytel.net>
"nightbat" <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message
news:43E74353.97A8945F@home.ffni.com...
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:03:22 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E6CA89.D42113EF@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat
<nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience.
Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every
living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex
organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an
Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific
American
notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of
physics
and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super
Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that
always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to
our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that
believe
in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs
as
if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science.
It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy;
it
is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God
are
real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt
Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use
the
same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet
makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch
your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get
another
clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus
where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by
me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater
force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal
gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
You are a loon.
nightbat
It is reported the alien Gray's are loons and perverted do
you
believe it? Some of the greatest minds were considered loons at one
time
or another but where would mankind be without them? One of my
Science
Officers is Loonie and one of my best. Never judge a book by its
cover,
wait till you read it from cover to cover, for you never know what
you
might discover.
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
Thankyou; you have confirmed my psychiatric assessment of you.
nightbat
Good and I'll give you another free second opinion, you're net
funny too now run along with the rest of the coffee boys, have fun, and
don't forget to write.
on alert,
the nightbat
You were a little hard on the boy, weren't you nightbat ?
HJ
Do you mean to say that you actually understand what fruitbat's
incoherent ravings mean?
He just misspelled "not". Saying that you were not funny, also. Of course
anyone that speaks in the slightest way making light of him and his "fantasy
world" is by his definition a coffee boy. One must watch misspellings, you
see, people that have their heads in the clouds, in outer space, the ocean,
or buried in the sand are very bad spellers (look at Warphole). Have a nice
night !
HJ
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
07 Feb 2006 02:11:06 AM |
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 22:48:55 -0600, "Honest John"
<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote:
- Refer: <J4OdnQzRwr0Zu3XeRVn-tw@centurytel.net>
"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:2t3gu11pc8tlv0r30p8qlg6a6cq0dti2ba@4ax.com...
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:57:21 -0600, "Honest John"
<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote:
- Refer: <Yb2dncA216A57HreRVn-hQ@centurytel.net>
"nightbat" <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message
news:43E74353.97A8945F@home.ffni.com...
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:03:22 -0500, nightbat <nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E6CA89.D42113EF@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat
<nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience.
Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker. Every
living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex
organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an
Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific
American
notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of
physics
and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super
Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that
always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and to
our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that
believe
in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat beliefs
as
if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as science.
It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy;
it
is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God
are
real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one Voigt
Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use
the
same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet
makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch
your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get
another
clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is versus
where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered by
me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or greater
force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal
gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
You are a loon.
nightbat
It is reported the alien Gray's are loons and perverted do
you
believe it? Some of the greatest minds were considered loons at one
time
or another but where would mankind be without them? One of my
Science
Officers is Loonie and one of my best. Never judge a book by its
cover,
wait till you read it from cover to cover, for you never know what
you
might discover.
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
Thankyou; you have confirmed my psychiatric assessment of you.
nightbat
Good and I'll give you another free second opinion, you're net
funny too now run along with the rest of the coffee boys, have fun, and
don't forget to write.
on alert,
the nightbat
You were a little hard on the boy, weren't you nightbat ?
HJ
Do you mean to say that you actually understand what fruitbat's
incoherent ravings mean?
He just misspelled "not". Saying that you were not funny, also. Of course
anyone that speaks in the slightest way making light of him and his "fantasy
world" is by his definition a coffee boy. One must watch misspellings, you
see, people that have their heads in the clouds, in outer space, the ocean,
or buried in the sand are very bad spellers (look at Warphole). Have a nice
night !
HJ
Oh, I understood the mis-spelling immediately, and chose not to
comment on an obvious typo, but "coffee boy"??
What the hell is that?
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| Title: Re: The Universe is doomed!!!... or is it? |
07 Feb 2006 10:03:30 AM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
news:7dlgu1dgsp5boaucn2feh11aed78u558n3@4ax.com...
On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 22:48:55 -0600, "Honest John"
<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 6 Feb 2006 09:57:21 -0600, "Honest John"
<honestjohn@centurytel.net> wrote:
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"nightbat" <nightbat@home.ffni.com> wrote in message
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nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sun, 05 Feb 2006 23:03:22 -0500, nightbat
<nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E6CA89.D42113EF@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2006 16:16:48 -0500, nightbat
<nightbat@home.ffni.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <43E519C0.79E0E8A8@home.ffni.com>
nightbat wrote
Walter Voigt wrote:
Omnius wrote:
But that is contrary to reason and to our experience.
Everything
organized has an organizer. Every law has a lawmaker.
Every
living thing
on earth has a parent. Should not the far more complex
organization and
laws in the universe, as well as life on earth, have an
Organizer,
Lawmaker and Life-Giver too? An article in Scientific
American
notes:
Isn't Omnius concerned that if the Universe, the laws of
physics
and life
itself need an Organizer, shouldn't there be also a Super
Organizer that
organized the Organizer who organized the Universe?
Ahh... but that is God's role, right.?
But, of course, such a being all powerful, all knowing, that
always lived
BUT that nobody has ever seen, is not contrary to reason and
to
our own
existence.!! Give me a break!
In this era that we live in it's obvious that "those that
believe
in God
are most likely idiots or at best uneducated. To treat
beliefs
as
if they
mean anything is to elevate them to the same status as
science.
It was cute
when my 5-year old believed in Santa Claus and the tooth
fairy;
it
is
pathetic when an adult thinks demons, angels, Satan. and God
are
real." *
Walter Voigt, Ph.D.
* Stephen W. Gordon, Discovery Magazine, November 2005.
nightbat
Ha, ha, ha, ha, in this era, oh clueless cute one
Voigt
Ph.D.,
then join the ranks of the so called pathetic ones for you use
the
same
time base everyone else does, BC and AD. And remember usenet
makes a
record of everything you post so remember the old saying watch
your
mouth for words have a way of coming back to haunt you. Get
another
clue
all energy and matter has residual memory of where it is
versus
where it
should be, the profound missing unified field frame discovered
by
me.
(the nightbat) What does this mean, that unless equal or
greater
force
is inputted into the Universe it will remain in eternal
gravitational
loop of disturbed non equalized momentum. (See Newton)
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
You are a loon.
nightbat
It is reported the alien Gray's are loons and perverted
do
you
believe it? Some of the greatest minds were considered loons at
one
time
or another but where would mankind be without them? One of my
Science
Officers is Loonie and one of my best. Never judge a book by its
cover,
wait till you read it from cover to cover, for you never know
what
you
might discover.
on alert,
the nightbat
Gray
Thankyou; you have confirmed my psychiatric assessment of you.
nightbat
Good and I'll give you another free second opinion, you're
net
funny too now run along with the rest of the coffee boys, have fun,
and
don't forget to write.
on alert,
the nightbat
You were a little hard on the boy, weren't you nightbat ?
HJ
Do you mean to say that you actually understand what fruitbat's
incoherent ravings mean?
He just misspelled "not". Saying that you were not funny, also. Of
course
anyone that speaks in the slightest way making light of him and his
"fantasy
world" is by his definition a coffee boy. One must watch misspellings,
you
see, people that have their heads in the clouds, in outer space, the
ocean,
or buried in the sand are very bad spellers (look at Warphole). Have a
nice
night !
HJ
Oh, I understood the mis-spelling immediately, and chose not to
comment on an obvious typo, but "coffee boy"??
What the hell is that?
I'm not crystal; clear on that, all I can do is give you my impressions.
Apparently nightbat has to blame people's independent nature ( not willing
to submit to his "super-duper" science ideas ) on something akin to a food
additive e.g.. coffee. So people that poke a little fun at his ko0ky ideas
are naturally called coffee boys by, none other than, Capt. nightbat. I
really would like to help him out but he's so old (60ish) and set in his
ways; I'm afraid he'll take these delusions to the grave.
HJ
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