Religions > Atheism > The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity
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08 Oct 2006 09:26:02 PM |
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The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
Catholicism/Orthodoxy world Versus Islamic world.
Where do you see more freedom, freedom of speech and freedom of
religion?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 12:42:33 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 04:06:29 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
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Michael Gray wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 20:59:13 -0700, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:
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codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
PerfectlyAble wrote:
codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
Catholicism/Orthodoxy world Versus Islamic world.
Where do you see more freedom, freedom of speech and freedom of
religion?
Freedom of religion is the freedom from other peoples religion.
Freedom of religious speach is the freedom to contradict other
religions.
Freedom is essentially an atheist principle since no religion,
that has deities, allows you ever to get away from 'it'.
Freedom is areligious! America is a humanist secular state.
But then all states are secular because nobody has ever
found a religious leader that dares to claim himself God,
well not since that Pharoah bloke who started off this whole
mess called mono-theism.
Nonsense, just nonsense
Freedom is not nonsense. Freedom is anti-God.
How can anything be "anti" something that just does not exist?
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary
claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
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| User: "Stephen Adams" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 06:07:00 AM |
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Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
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Space Age Cybernomad Stephen Adams
(remove SPAM to reply)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 05:25:13 PM |
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On 14 Oct 2006 11:07:00 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:
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Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
I do believe that I will follow your advice, and I thank you for the
courteous information, sir.
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| User: "Stephen Adams" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 09:39:50 PM |
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Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
On 14 Oct 2006 11:07:00 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:
- Refer: <egqgck120d5@news3.newsguy.com>
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
I do believe that I will follow your advice, and I thank you for the
courteous information, sir.
You're welcome. Most of the people in the orthodox newsgroup have
her in the killfile. Most only see her posts when others respond
to her.
This'll be my last cross-post...
-Stephen
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Space Age Cybernomad Stephen Adams
(remove SPAM to reply)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 10:43:12 PM |
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On 15 Oct 2006 02:39:50 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:
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Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
On 14 Oct 2006 11:07:00 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:
- Refer: <egqgck120d5@news3.newsguy.com>
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
I do believe that I will follow your advice, and I thank you for the
courteous information, sir.
You're welcome. Most of the people in the orthodox newsgroup have
her in the killfile. Most only see her posts when others respond
to her.
This'll be my last cross-post...
<Imp mode on>
A "Cross" post in a Christian group?!
....Oh, please yourself!
-Stephen
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 11:12:02 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On 15 Oct 2006 02:39:50 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:
- Refer: <egs71m21gar@news3.newsguy.com>
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
On 14 Oct 2006 11:07:00 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:
- Refer: <egqgck120d5@news3.newsguy.com>
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
I do believe that I will follow your advice, and I thank you for the
courteous information, sir.
You're welcome. Most of the people in the orthodox newsgroup have
her in the killfile. Most only see her posts when others respond
to her.
This'll be my last cross-post...
<Imp mode on>
A "Cross" post in a Christian group?!
...Oh, please yourself!
-Stephen
Hi folks, I am from the Christian group. I was an atheist in my previous
life. Don't mind the subdeacon. He is a jerk, plain and simple. How are
you all doing tonight? :-)
OK
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 05:48:23 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On 14 Oct 2006 11:07:00 GMT, Stephen Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:
- Refer: <egqgck120d5@news3.newsguy.com>
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
I do believe that I will follow your advice, and I thank you for the
courteous information, sir.
I am now posting to alt.atheism. That man is a hypocrite. I did not know
I was cross posting. I am not to blame.
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 11:35:20 AM |
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Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 11:52:17 AM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 02:53:18 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 10:52:51 PM |
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In alt.atheism On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK
<OK@nospamsnet.net> let us all know that:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
Only when you were born. After that, you were brainwashed.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 11:12:59 PM |
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Don Kresch wrote:
In alt.atheism On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK
<OK@nospamsnet.net> let us all know that:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
Only when you were born. After that, you were brainwashed.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
Ok, I am in both groups now, so apologies to the political group and the
other Christian group. Who is the OP?
Anyways, yeah I chose to wash my brain at age 23, you are right!
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
15 Oct 2006 09:30:24 AM |
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In alt.atheism On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:12:59 GMT, OK
<OK@nospamsnet.net> let us all know that:
Don Kresch wrote:
In alt.atheism On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK
<OK@nospamsnet.net> let us all know that:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
Only when you were born. After that, you were brainwashed.
Ok, I am in both groups now, so apologies to the political group and the
other Christian group. Who is the OP?
Don't know. Don't care.
Anyways, yeah I chose to wash my brain at age 2, you are right!
I corrected your statement for accuracy.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 05:24:12 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
- Refer: <OebYg.14675$e66.4654@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
Everyone in the universe was an atheist after they were born.
Suckers only pick up the disorder when carriers deliberately infect
the infant with the nasty affliction.
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 05:44:47 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
- Refer: <OebYg.14675$e66.4654@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
Everyone in the universe was an atheist after they were born.
Suckers only pick up the disorder when carriers deliberately infect
the infant with the nasty affliction.
I have a disorder, it is called C-PTSD, or Complex PTSD. My theism is
not my disorder. My theism is not an infection. In fact, I am no longer
allowed to receive the Sacraments, which you view as an infection. So in
your view, I am cured. I am now a member of your group and will be
replying here.
I chose to be baptized at the age of 23. And I was excommunicated at the
age of 30. Somebody got the seven year itch. I have been separated from
the cause of infection, as you view it.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 03:36:21 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
You did a stupid thing. I don't care who started the cross-posting. It
was still a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to atheists. Which
you would have realised if you ever used to be one.
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 03:45:33 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
You did a stupid thing. I don't care who started the cross-posting. It
was still a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to atheists. Which
you would have realised if you ever used to be one.
So are you saying I did a stupid thing because I did not delete the
atheist newsgroup? Someone else sent it here. I did used to be an
atheist, and frankly, right now, I feel like one. I am very new to
Usenet. I would hope you would have some compassion for me. If the
message comes to me from an atheist newsgroup, I am going to reply.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 05:30:51 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:45:33 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
You did a stupid thing. I don't care who started the cross-posting. It
was still a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to atheists. Which
you would have realised if you ever used to be one.
So are you saying I did a stupid thing because I did not delete the
atheist newsgroup? Someone else sent it here. I did used to be an
atheist, and frankly, right now, I feel like one. I am very new to
Usenet. I would hope you would have some compassion for me. If the
message comes to me from an atheist newsgroup, I am going to reply.
No.
If I'd meant that I would have said it. But I neither said it nor
meant it.
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 05:32:35 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:45:33 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
You did a stupid thing. I don't care who started the cross-posting. It
was still a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to atheists. Which
you would have realised if you ever used to be one.
So are you saying I did a stupid thing because I did not delete the
atheist newsgroup? Someone else sent it here. I did used to be an
atheist, and frankly, right now, I feel like one. I am very new to
Usenet. I would hope you would have some compassion for me. If the
message comes to me from an atheist newsgroup, I am going to reply.
No.
If I'd meant that I would have said it. But I neither said it nor
meant it.
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
I am sorry. I am no longer an atheist. I am now a theist. And I am a
she. And now a member of your group.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 05:38:54 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:32:35 GMT, in alt.atheism
OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote in
<7AdYg.14736$e66.13415@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:45:33 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
....
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
You did a stupid thing. I don't care who started the cross-posting. It
was still a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to atheists. Which
you would have realised if you ever used to be one.
So are you saying I did a stupid thing because I did not delete the
atheist newsgroup? Someone else sent it here. I did used to be an
atheist, and frankly, right now, I feel like one. I am very new to
Usenet. I would hope you would have some compassion for me. If the
message comes to me from an atheist newsgroup, I am going to reply.
No.
If I'd meant that I would have said it. But I neither said it nor
meant it.
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
I am sorry. I am no longer an atheist. I am now a theist. And I am a
she. And now a member of your group.
Why would you want to selectively post to newsgroup that is primarily
frequented by those who don't accept the claim that any gods, whether
one you call God or one you call Satan or any other name, exist?
Since you are here, I might as well ask: Define the God you believe in
and point me to evidence that supports your claim. Please remember that
religious texts are not evidence in support of the god they speak about.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
14 Oct 2006 05:49:45 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:38:54 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:32:35 GMT, in alt.atheism
OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote in
<7AdYg.14736$e66.13415@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:45:33 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
...
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
You did a stupid thing. I don't care who started the cross-posting. It
was still a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to atheists. Which
you would have realised if you ever used to be one.
So are you saying I did a stupid thing because I did not delete the
atheist newsgroup? Someone else sent it here. I did used to be an
atheist, and frankly, right now, I feel like one. I am very new to
Usenet. I would hope you would have some compassion for me. If the
message comes to me from an atheist newsgroup, I am going to reply.
No.
If I'd meant that I would have said it. But I neither said it nor
meant it.
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
I am sorry. I am no longer an atheist. I am now a theist. And I am a
she. And now a member of your group.
Why would you want to selectively post to newsgroup that is primarily
frequented by those who don't accept the claim that any gods, whether
one you call God or one you call Satan or any other name, exist?
Since you are here, I might as well ask: Define the God you believe in
and point me to evidence that supports your claim. Please remember that
religious texts are not evidence in support of the god they speak about.
She probably didn't realise. My newsreader (Agent) puts me in an
email-style window where the headers can be edited. Some don't.
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
24 Oct 2006 08:03:32 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:45:33 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:53:18 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:35:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Stephen Adams wrote:
Michael Gray <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> writes:
SWMNBN wrote:
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Michael,
Please ignore our troll. She's trying to stir up trouble by crosposting
between alt.atheism and religious groups. Just add SWMNBN to your kill
file. Thanks.
-Stephen
Liar. This message came in from those four groups. You are not a
Christian. You seem to be a tool of Satan, posing as a clergyman. I am
forwarding your messages to some of my pastors and professors to get
some help to deal with your sin.
What a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to an atheist newsgroup.
I am not the one who cross posted. The OP did. Who are you saying did a
stupid thing? I used to be an atheist.
You did a stupid thing. I don't care who started the cross-posting. It
was still a remarkably stupid thing to cross-post to atheists. Which
you would have realised if you ever used to be one.
So are you saying I did a stupid thing because I did not delete the
atheist newsgroup? Someone else sent it here. I did used to be an
atheist, and frankly, right now, I feel like one. I am very new to
Usenet. I would hope you would have some compassion for me. If the
message comes to me from an atheist newsgroup, I am going to reply.
No.
If I'd meant that I would have said it. But I neither said it nor
meant it.
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
I wish Satan were not real. I am a theist now.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
26 Oct 2006 04:44:06 PM |
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On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:03:32 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
I wish Satan were not real. I am a theist now.
Whether you're a theist or an atheist makes no difference to whether
Satan exists or not. Are you really so monomaniacal that you think
your changing from atheism to theism made Satan exist?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
26 Oct 2006 08:26:20 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:44:06 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <dua2k25aua86l330565d2cmlmt4qu735js@4ax.com>
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:03:32 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
I wish Satan were not real. I am a theist now.
Whether you're a theist or an atheist makes no difference to whether
Satan exists or not. Are you really so monomaniacal that you think
your changing from atheism to theism made Satan exist?
That would correlate with the vast batch of personality disorders that
the badly named "OK" manifests.
"Monomania" would be the least offensive of them.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
26 Oct 2006 09:51:07 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:56:20 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:44:06 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <dua2k25aua86l330565d2cmlmt4qu735js@4ax.com>
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:03:32 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
I wish Satan were not real. I am a theist now.
Whether you're a theist or an atheist makes no difference to whether
Satan exists or not. Are you really so monomaniacal that you think
your changing from atheism to theism made Satan exist?
That would correlate with the vast batch of personality disorders that
the badly named "OK" manifests.
"Monomania" would be the least offensive of them.
I'm still wondering where in the Bay area Atlanta is.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Speculating on the possible reaction to evidence is no excuse for
failing to produce the evidence."
- Wayne M. Delia+
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of Pharisaic Christianity |
26 Oct 2006 10:04:12 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:51:07 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <20t2k2144v7mdvs5svkt0eeu143dr3ik9m@4ax.com>
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:56:20 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:44:06 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <dua2k25aua86l330565d2cmlmt4qu735js@4ax.com>
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 01:03:32 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
The stupid thing was posting about Satan as though it were real, to an
atheist newsgroup. Which one might expect an ex-atheist to realise
before he did it.
I wish Satan were not real. I am a theist now.
Whether you're a theist or an atheist makes no difference to whether
Satan exists or not. Are you really so monomaniacal that you think
your changing from atheism to theism made Satan exist?
That would correlate with the vast batch of personality disorders that
the badly named "OK" manifests.
"Monomania" would be the least offensive of them.
I'm still wondering where in the Bay area Atlanta is.
Atlantis.
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| User: "OK" |
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| Title: Re: The World Of Paulin Christianity Versus The World Of PharisaicChristianity |
14 Oct 2006 03:47:05 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 04:06:29 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
- Refer: <9nZXg.16618$7I1.8258@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>
Michael Gray wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 20:59:13 -0700, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:
- Refer: <1160539153.733111.193060@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
PerfectlyAble wrote:
codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
Catholicism/Orthodoxy world Versus Islamic world.
Where do you see more freedom, freedom of speech and freedom of
religion?
Freedom of religion is the freedom from other peoples religion.
Freedom of religious speach is the freedom to contradict other
religions.
Freedom is essentially an atheist principle since no religion,
that has deities, allows you ever to get away from 'it'.
Freedom is areligious! America is a humanist secular state.
But then all states are secular because nobody has ever
found a religious leader that dares to claim himself God,
well not since that Pharoah bloke who started off this whole
mess called mono-theism.
Nonsense, just nonsense
Freedom is not nonsense. Freedom is anti-God.
How can anything be "anti" something that just does not exist?
Prove that God does not exist atheist.
The burden of proof is incumbent on those who make extraordinary
claims.
Where is even one tiny scrap of evidence that there is such a thing?
(Hint: there is none).
Ok, I am breaking protocol here by replying to this cross post from an
atheist newsgroup. Does your group have a charter or a FAQ?
I used to be an atheist. I can not prove the existence of God to you. I
am sorry for being so harsh. I am in a lot of pain right now and lashing
out at everyone. I am a sadist as well as a masochist, what is known as
a switch in BDSM parlance.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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11 Oct 2006 08:30:35 PM |
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On 10 Oct 2006 20:59:13 -0700, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:
Freedom is not nonsense. Freedom is anti-God.
Since the religion is older than freedom, I think the polite way to
phrase it would be, "God is anti-freedom". Or "God is pro-slavery".
Same thing, but he actually states the latter.
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| User: "OK" |
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17 Oct 2006 07:09:20 PM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 20:59:13 -0700, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:
Freedom is not nonsense. Freedom is anti-God.
Since the religion is older than freedom, I think the polite way to
phrase it would be, "God is anti-freedom". Or "God is pro-slavery".
Same thing, but he actually states the latter.
What? Freedom is older than religion. In my religion, freedom started
with Adam and Eve in Paradise, before religion. What is your belief? God
is pro freedom. God gave man free will. God is not pro slavery. God
wants us to choose Him. Now what is your belief system, please? And
please reply.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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18 Oct 2006 09:40:53 AM |
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:09:20 GMT, OK <OK@nospamsnet.net> wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On 10 Oct 2006 20:59:13 -0700, "PerfectlyAble" <jrhw@kol.co.nz> wrote:
Freedom is not nonsense. Freedom is anti-God.
Since the religion is older than freedom, I think the polite way to
phrase it would be, "God is anti-freedom". Or "God is pro-slavery".
Same thing, but he actually states the latter.
What? Freedom is older than religion.
Religion includes at least one god. God are anti-freedom. So
Religion, if you accept the beliefs of the religion, that it's older
than the universe, is older than freedom, which is a human concept.
(True, religion and gods are also just human concepts and we can't
really say which one came first, freedom or religion.)
In my religion, freedom started with Adam and Eve in Paradise
Since your religion claims that it started with God, and God is
anti-freedom, no. God's anti-freedom stance - being unchanging, as it
must be for an atemporal being - existed before the universe.
What is your belief?
My belief-set doesn't include your god.
God is pro freedom.
A being that's pro-slavery can't be pro-freedom. And your bible not
only condones slavery, it sets out rules for it. It also treats women
as property - it says that they are.
God gave man free will.
Either God is the omnipotent omniscient creator of the universe or we
have free will. The two are mutually exclusive. Your religion got it
wrong, like most things, because religions seldom think past the first
move.
Now what is your belief system, please?
With regard to religion I have none.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
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