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Theopcrats in action: THE TRUTH ABOUT ‘SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE’ |
FOOTNOTE: THE TRUTH ABOUT ‘SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE’
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_9153.shtml
[excerpt]
Liberals have run off with this phrase, prostituting it per usual.
The matter is simple. It’s this: America does not want a state church.
England has a state church — the Anglican Church. America does not want one
denomination considered The Nation’s Church.
On the other hand, America has a religious heritage. It’s not Muslim. It’s
not Hindu. It’s not Shinto. It’s not animism. It’s not New Age. It’s not
Paganism. It’s not Voodoo. It’s Judeo-Christian.
America, while not desiring a state church, does desire religion in life.
That includes religious expression in everyday exchange. Because
Judeo-Christian is America’s heritage, most citizens honor that heritage
expressed and honored. Its expression then should not be thwarted. It
should not be belittled. It should not be erased in the name of "separation
of church and state."
Unhampered religious expression is promised in the First Amendment.
Further, America, having a Judeo-Christian heritage and the right to
present-tense expression, permits freedom of religious expression to other
religions. Therefore, there are those of other religious persuasions who
practice without fear their religions in America.
What the liberals want to do is redefine the phrase "separation of church
and state" to exclude Judeo-Christian religious expression in America. They
want not only "separation of church and state" defined on their terms but
the exclusion of the Judeo-Christian religion and anything coming close to
that particular religious expression—period.
Liberals believe that if they continue harping on the "separation of church
and state" phrase, brainwashing the public with their prostituted
definition, especially indoctrinating the next generation with their
prostituted definition, then they will have won secularism for America’s
future.
They, in other words, want not only separation but exclusion of religion —
completely so. Note however that the chief religion they want excluded is
Judeo-Christian.
They will even tolerate other religions, as they are presently doing with
the Muslim infiltration, but it is Judeo-Christian that they want cleansed
from America. In other words, it’s a religious cleansing they desire for
this nation — the extinguishing specifically of the Judeo-Christian faith.
[end of excerpt]
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members]
For people in Hampton Roads area of Virginia you are also invited to join
NORFOLK/VA. B. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE MEETUP GROUP
http://churchandstate.meetup.com/47/
Virginia Chapter Americans United for Separation of Church and State
http://au-va.org/
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.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
"Dedicated to combatting 'history by sound bite'."
Now including a re-publication of Tom Peters
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE HOME PAGE
and
Audio links to Supreme Court oral arguments and
Speech by civil rights/constitutional lawyer and others.
This site is a member of the following web rings:
Freethought Ring--&--Freethought, Religion & Beliefs Ring
The First Amendment Ring--&--The Church-State Ring
American History WebRing--&--The History Ring
Let Freedom Ring--&--Religious Freedom Ring
Law Issues Ring--&--Legal Research Ring
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| Title: Re: Theopcrats in action: THE TRUTH ABOUT ‘SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE’ |
22 Aug 2005 08:00:14 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:51 -0400, wrote:
FOOTNOTE: THE TRUTH ABOUT ‘SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE’
http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_9153.shtml
[excerpt]
Liberals have run off with this phrase, prostituting it per usual.
Ummmm.......
You've been posting some good stuff but I think you damage your
credibility when you start sorting people by type by saying things
like "Liberals have run off with this phrase, prostituting it per
usual........"
True, some people, who some may tag with such divisive labels, do in
fact want to run Christianity out.
However, there are people on the edge of reason, a small percentage of
society, who's opinion really won't carry weight because they are so
extreme.
Please stick to the interpretation of the Constitution and try to stay
away from name calling.
Or was this post a counterfeit posted by an interloper to degrade
credibility?
Just checking!!
TheRain
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| Title: Re: Theopcrats in action: THE TRUTH ABOUT ‘SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE’ |
23 Aug 2005 07:27:18 AM |
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:|On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 11:33:51 -0400, wrote:
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:|>FOOTNOTE: THE TRUTH ABOUT ‘SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE’
:|>http://www.michnews.com/artman/publish/article_9153.shtml
:|>[excerpt]
:|>
:|>Liberals have run off with this phrase, prostituting it per usual.
:|>
:|
:|Ummmm.......
:|
:|You've been posting some good stuff but I think you damage your
:|credibility when you start sorting people by type by saying things
:|like "Liberals have run off with this phrase, prostituting it per
:|usual........"
:|
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:|True, some people, who some may tag with such divisive labels, do in
:|fact want to run Christianity out.
:|
:|However, there are people on the edge of reason, a small percentage of
:|society, who's opinion really won't carry weight because they are so
:|extreme.
:|
:|Please stick to the interpretation of the Constitution and try to stay
:|away from name calling.
:|
:|Or was this post a counterfeit posted by an interloper to degrade
:|credibility?
:|
:|Just checking!!
:|
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:|TheRain
The Radical Religious Right/theocrats have been learning and learning well
how to use all aspects of the internet, including the UseNet newsgroups to
further their goals
I am returning the favor
My posts take two forms:
(1) Pro strict separation of church and state and consists of various
things from a variety of sources, including our own website
(2) Keeping people informed about the opposition by posting things the
theocratic radical religious right is doing, posting publishing etc
If you would have notice the tite it said "Theocrats in action," thus
identifying who and what it is about, that is, it is something the
opposition is doing or saying. That article was written by another
person, not by me. It was found on what appears to be a very conservative
web site
BTW, there are theocrats, i e radical religious right groups and
individuals, thus using that term is not name calling. it is identifying.
The theocrats, the radical religious right do want to set up a theocratic
society. They do not deny it
That is a far cry from the usual labeling or name calling done when people
use terms such as liberals, conservatives, atheists, fundies, and so on and
so forth
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You are invited to check out the following:
The Rise of the Theocratic States of America
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/theocracy.htm
The Constitutional Principle: Separation of Church and State
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
[and to join the discussion group for the above site and/or Separation of
Church and State in general, listed below]
HRSepCnS · Hampton Roads SepChurch&State
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HRSepCnS/
[Its not just Hampton Roads folks who are members]
For people in Hampton Roads area of Virginia you are also invited to join
NORFOLK/VA. B. SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE MEETUP GROUP
http://churchandstate.meetup.com/47/
Virginia Chapter Americans United for Separation of Church and State
http://au-va.org/
***************************************************************
.. . . You can't understand a phrase such as "Congress shall make no law
respecting an establishment of religion" by syllogistic reasoning. Words
take their meaning from social as well as textual contexts, which is why "a
page of history is worth a volume of logic." New York Trust Co. v. Eisner,
256 U.S. 345, 349, 41 S.Ct. 506, 507, 65 L.Ed. 963 (1921) (Holmes, J.).
Sherman v. Community Consol. Dist. 21, 980 F.2d 437, 445 (7th Cir. 1992)
.. . .
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THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
"Dedicated to combatting 'history by sound bite'."
Now including a re-publication of Tom Peters
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE HOME PAGE
and
Audio links to Supreme Court oral arguments and
Speech by civil rights/constitutional lawyer and others.
This site is a member of the following web rings:
Freethought Ring--&--Freethought, Religion & Beliefs Ring
The First Amendment Ring--&--The Church-State Ring
American History WebRing--&--The History Ring
Let Freedom Ring--&--Religious Freedom Ring
Law Issues Ring--&--Legal Research Ring
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