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User: "You Think"
Date: 05 Jul 2007 07:49:03 AM
Object: There is Hate in the World and There is also a Supernatural Enemy
There is Hate in the World and There is also a Supernatural Enemy
John 15:18-20 (NASB95)
Disciples' Relation to the World
18 "aIf the world hates you, 1you know that it has hated Me
before it hated you.
19 "If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but
because you are not of the world, but aI chose you out of the world,
bbecause of this the world hates you.
20 "Remember the word that I said to you, 'aA slave is not
greater than his master.' If they persecuted Me, bthey will also
persecute you; if they ckept My word, they will keep yours also.
[1]
If the world loves you, watch out-you're in hot water. Paul told his
protigi, Timothy, that all who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer
persecution (2 Timothy 3:12). That's a fact. If you are living godly,
you're not going to make it into the Who's Who of the world's system. It
just won't work that way.
[2]
15:18, 19 Since Satan is the one who dominates the evil world system in
rebellion against God (14:30), the result is that the world hates not only
Jesus, but those who follow Him (2 Tim. 3:12). Hatred toward Jesus means
also hatred toward the Father who sent Him (v. 23).
15:20 servant...master. That axiom, spoken also in 13:16, reflects the
obvious truth that led Jesus to inform His disciples. They could expect to
be treated like He was treated because those who hated Him don't know God
(v. 21) and would hate them also; and conversely, those who listened with
faith to Him, would hear them also.
[3]
The reason the world will hate you is because you're light (1
Thessalonians 5:5). And when light shines, people in the dark get real
uneasy. Like bugs under a rock, they start scrambling and fleeing. "If I
hadn't come," said Jesus, "men could continue on in their sin, and no one
would feel uncomfortable. But because I came, because of how I lived,
because of where I stand, men have no cloak for their sin. Consequently,
they feel exposed and foolish in their iniquity. And will hate you as a
result."[4]
Jesus Predicts the World's Hatred (15:18-16:4)
15:18, 19 The disciples were not to be surprised or disheartened if the
world hates them. (The if does not express any doubt that this would
happen; it was certain.) The world hated the Lord, and it will hate all
who resemble Him.
Men of the world love those who live as they do-those who use vile
language and indulge in the lusts of the flesh, or people who are cultured
but live only for themselves. Christians condemn them by their holy lives,
therefore the world hates them.
15:20 Here servant literally means "slave." A disciple should not expect
any better treatment from the world than his Master received. He will be
persecuted just as Christ was. His word will be refused just as the
Savior's was.
[5]
Notice what will happen if you are a child of God. The world will hate
you. I believe that a Christian's popularity can be an indication of how
he is representing Christ to the world. I do not believe a Christian can
be popular in the world. No Christian has any right to be more popular
than Jesus was. Beware of a compromising position in order to be popular.
The world will not love a real child of God. The world will love you if
you are of the world. You don't have to act oddly or be super-pious. The
world will hate you if you are a child of God. This is difficult,
especially for young people who want so much to be popular. Let's tell our
young people what the Lord says. They are not going to be popular with the
world if they are the children of God.
Unfortunately, there are folk in the church today who are not honestly
born again, and they will also hate you if you are a child of God. They
will hate the preacher if he is true to the Word of God. May I say again,
beware of the Christian who is popular with the world.
[6]
15:18-19 "If the world hates you, be aware that it hated me before it
hated you." NRSV Jesus was hated from the very beginning (when Jesus was a
young child, King Herod sought him out to kill him-Matthew 2:13-16). He
was hated at the end when the people rejected him as the Savior and called
for his crucifixion. The same world would surely hate those who proclaim
allegiance to the crucified Lord.
"If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you
do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That
is why the world hates you." NIV Jesus wants believers to be distinctive;
he sets us apart from the world. His choosing and setting us apart makes
us holy and helps us grow. Our very separation from the world arouses the
world's animosity. The world would prefer that we were like them; since we
are not, they hate us (see 1 Peter 4:3-4).
.. WELCOMED REJECTION
Jesus taught us to expect rejection. Rejection may be difficult to take,
but if we never experience it, we may be hiding our Christianity from
others. If we profess Christ and are warmly embraced by the world, we
should reexamine our commitment and life-style. If we remain silent about
our faith in order to gain acceptance by the world, we have made a poor
trade. In fact, we are being dishonest in two ways: We deny the faith we
claim as central in our lives, and we deceive those whose acceptance we
want by not revealing our Christian faith. The Scriptures warn us,
"Friendship with the world is hatred toward God" (James 4:4 niv; see also
2 Timothy 3:10-12; 1 John 2:15-17; 3:1; 4:5-6).
[7]
15:18 Jesus wanted to prepare His disciples for the opposition that they
would face after His departure. To do this He announced first that they
would encounter opposition from the world (cf. 1 John 3:13). Here the
world (Gr. kosmos) refers to the mass of unbelievers. The conditional
sentence in the Greek text assumes the reality of what Jesus stated for
the argument's sake. The world would hate them. A person cannot be an
intimate friend of Jesus (i.e., and abiding believer) without drawing
hatred from His enemies.
The world hates Jesus because He testified that its deeds are evil (7:7).
His abiding disciples draw hatred from the world because they associate
themselves with Him and His teachings and because they seek to advance His
mission. Remembering the world's hatred for the Master makes bearing that
hatred easier for His disciple.
15:19 Believers are aliens in the world because Jesus has called us out of
it to fulfill His plans and purposes. The world does not hate us because
we are superior but because we are servants of the Lord whom it has
rejected.
[8]
John 7:7 (NASB95)
7 "aThe world cannot hate you, but it hates Me because I testify
of it, that bits deeds are evil.
[9]
.. Why are Christians Hated?
John 15:18-15:27
One of the things that confuses many Christians is the attitude of
non-Christians toward them. Most of us think that since we go to the world
with the greatest and most important message in all of history that the
world would applaud and cheer. For the most part, people are not waiting
for that message with open arms. In fact, the Bible says that the world
does not want us or our message. They hate us. Hate? That is what Jesus
said.
Why does the world hate Christians?
A. Because Christians are different. (18,19)
"If the world hate you, ye know that it hated Me before it hate you."
"world" is not the earth. Everyone lives in the physical world. It is the
word - cosmos. It is the word from which we get the word COSMETICS. It
means "to put in order." Cosmetics are designed to put women's faces in
order. Most of you have watched women putting on their make-up with the
use of the car mirror while on their way to work.
The world than is organized. Put in order. It is a system run by an
intelligent head, the devil. He has one specific goal: to get this world
order to leave God out. The word "worldly" then as it is used biblically
means to operate as if there is no God. Don Carson - The created moral
order in active rebellion against God. To buy into that system and operate
within that system that in practice and lifestyle operates independently
of God.
You cannot reconcile the war between the kingdom of this world and the
kingdom of God. (James 4:4) "Know ye not that the friendship of the world
is enmity with God? Whosoever therefore will be the friend of the world is
the enemy of God." You cannot be a friend of that which hates the Father.
The world says: disobey God, forget God, don't follow God, leave God out,
forsake God. You can't be a friend of something like that. You can't have
God and the world.
(Rom 12:2) "Don't be conformed to this world." Don't be squeezed into its
mold. Don't let the world tell you what to do.
Ho do you know when the world is telling you what to do? Can you include
God? Anything that keeps you from including God is worldly.
As a Christian, what can I do? Anything God can do with you. If Jesus has
to wait outside while you do it, DON'T DO IT!
You love what you spend your time, your money and your energy on. If very
little of it is going to God, then God is not the One you love.
(19) "If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because
ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore
the world hateth you."
The more you look like Christ the more the world is going to treat you the
same way it treated Him. When you don't act, talk or think like the world
does, you are going to make the crowd uncomfortable. You are not going to
be "one of us." The fact is you are not. God has "chosen you out" by His
sovereign grace. This concept of a Christian living in the world, but not
being of the world is a key concept to understand what it means to be a
Christian. "His own" are those who have become at home in the world. Life
on this earth is all they live for. They spend their lives trying to get
the things of this world. Their values are wrapped up in power, pleasure
and possessions.
B. Because Christians insist on an absolute standard.(20-24)
(20) "Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater
than his lord. If they have presecuted Me, they will also persecute you;
if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also."
If the church today is not undergoing persecution it may be because there
is very little distinction between the world and the church. Religious
surveys consistently show that there are no noticeable differences between
the lifestyles of those who attend church and those who do not. Church
members wear the same clothes as the secular culture, watch the same
movies, get divorced at the same rate, buy as many lottery tickets, have
as man affairs and use just as many questionable business practices. The
secular culture has so invaded the minds and hearts of those in the church
both in the pew and the pulpit, that the godless society sees nothing
about the church worth persecuting. That in itself may be the most telling
criticism the church faces today.
(21) "Butall these things will they do unto you for My name's sake,
because they know not Him that sent Me."
They hated Jesus because they did not know the Father. They will hate you
becaue they don't know Jesus.
(22) "If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but
now they have no cloak for their sin."
If Jesus had kept His mouth shut and just gone around healing and feeding
people, there wouldn't have been any trouble. But He exposed their sin.
(23) "He that hateth Me hateth My Father also."
You can't have the Father without the Son.
(24) "If I had not done among them the works which none other man did,
they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both Me and My
Father."
They heard what He said and they saw His lifestyle and it revealed their
sinfulness. Now there was an absolute standard. Everything is to be
measured against Jesus. When you live a life that imitates Christ it will
bring to mind their own sins. They do not want a Christian who reflects
God's holiness. Folks want to hear "we all sin." They don't want to be
confronted by a higher standard. That is why they are so quick to latch on
to anything negative they hear about the church.
C. Because Christians remind them of the God they hate. (25-27)
(25) "But this cometh to pass, that the Word might be fulfilled that is
written in their law, They hated Me with a cause."
Remember when you were in school. Sometimes they graded on a CURVE. The
highest grade became a 100. It created a whole new standard. Jesus messed
up the curve. When He graded out 100 everyone else had to be compared to
Him.
Harry Ironside told the story of the missionary in Africa. In a very
backward village, he left a mirror hanging on a tree after shaving. The
wife of the tribal chief came along and looked into it. She had never seen
a mirror before. She asked "Who is that ugly woman?" When the missionary
explained the mirror to her and told her that it was she. She got made,
threw the mirror down and crushed it.
The world doesn't want to be shown what it looks like. It makes them mad.
They can't take out their hatred on Christ, so they take it out on you.
(26) "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the
Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, He
shall testify of Me."
How am I going to make it in this hostile world? "The Comforter" will give
me the staying power.
(27) "And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with Me from
the beginning."
The Holy Spirit witnesses and you witness. You have a strength beyond
yourself ot go on in your Christian witness. A witness is someone who
simply tells what he or she has experienced.
Billy Graham is now in his 80's and has Parkinson's Disease. Just a few
years ago, he told this story that reveals that he understood that this
world is not our home. Many wonderful things had been said about him as he
stepped to the podium at a luncheon given in his honor in his hometown of
Charlotte, N.C.
"I'm reminded today of Albert Einstein, the great physicist who this month
has been honore by Time magazine as the Man of the Century. Einstein was
once traveling from Princeton on a train when the conductor came down the
aisle, punching tickets of every passenger. When he came to Einstein,
Einstein reached in his vest pocket. He couldn't find his ticket, so he
reached in his trousers pocket. It wasn't there. So he looked in in his
briefcase but couldn't find it. Then he looked in the seat beside him. He
still couldn't find it.
The conductor said "Dr. Einstein, I know who you are. We all know who you
are. I'm sure you bought a ticket. Don't worry about it". Einstein nodded
appreciatively. The conductor continued down the aisle punching tickets.
As he was ready to move to the next car, he turned around and saw the
great physicist down on his hands and knees looking under his seat for his
ticket. The conductor rushed back and said, "Dr. Einstein, don't worry, I
know who you are. No problem. You don't need a ticket. I'm sure you bought
one."
Einstein looked at the conductor and said, "Young man, I too, know who I
am. What I don't know is where I'm going."
Having said that Billy Graham continued, "See the suit I'm wearing? It's a
brand new suit. My wife, my children, and my grandchildren are telling me
I've gotten a little slovenly in my old age. I used to be more fastidious.
So I went out and bought a new suit for this luncheon and one more
occasion.
You know what that occasion is? This is the suit in which I'll be buried.
But when you hear I'm dead, I don't want you to immediately remember the
suit I'm wearing. I want you to remember this:
I NOT ONLY KNOW WHO I AM...I ALSO KNOW WHERE I'M GOING."
That is the message that we are called to share with a lost world. We know
who we are in Christ and we know where we will spend eternity. And we know
how they can have the same assurance.
It is not a popular message. Most will reject it. Sharing the message may
make you very unpopular with people. But you will be popular with the
Christ who first brought it and received an even worse reception.
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a John 7:7; 1 John 3:13 1 Or (imperative) know that a John 15:16 b
Matt 10:22; 24:9; John 17:14 a Matt 10:24; John 13:16 b 1 Cor 4:12; 2
Cor 4:9; 2 Tim 3:12 c John 8:51
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ed.) (Jn 15:18). Nashville: Word Pub.
[4]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (567).
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: Old and New Testaments (Jn 15:18). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
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Nelson.
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Title: Re: There is Hate in the World and There is also a Supernatural Enemy 05 Jul 2007 01:39:27 PM
"You Think" <ut_ab02@yahoo.uk> wrote in news:12fetp.nvg.17.1
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There is Hate in the World and There is also a Supernatural Enemy


... and considering how many trailer parks he has taken out with tornadoes
Run for your lives, The JESUS has escaped and is on the rampage ....
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User: "The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN."

Title: Re: There is Hate in the World and There is also a Supernatural Enemy 05 Jul 2007 10:57:03 AM
On Jul 5, 1:49 pm, "You Think" <ut_a...@yahoo.uk> wrote:

There is Hate in the World and if John B Loiodice killed himself, there'd be
barely half as much

IFYPFY
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Title: Re: There is Hate in the World and There is also a Supernatural Enemy 06 Jul 2007 08:43:11 AM
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Title: Re: There is Hate in the World and There is also a Supernatural Enemy 05 Jul 2007 02:45:07 PM
On Jul 5, 8:49 am, "You Think" <ut_a...@yahoo.uk> wrote:

There is Hate in the World

Yup.
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http://news.google.com/news?tab=in&hl=en&q=religious%20violence
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and There is also a Supernatural Enemy

The enemy *is* morons who destroy in the name of the "supernatural".

John 15:18-20 (NASB95)

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