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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Snubis"
Date: 30 Jan 2004 09:09:06 PM
Object: There is no such thing as a Christian homosexual
There is no such thing as a homosexual Christian.
You can not go to heaven. If you were a real Christian, God would steer
you from the filthy and perverted homosexual lifestyle.
--

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User: "Billy Goat"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 07:56:58 PM
Snubis <`> wrote in message news:<4f2e0dd68bd1e3a64dd6ce8866a8ca58@news.teranews.com>...

On Tue 03 Feb 2004 10:58:09p, gmanon <gmanon@nyc.rr.com> wrote in
news:40206DDA.6010806@nyc.rr.com:

My humble opinion,

Atheist have the right to not believe in God if they are not convinced.
That is called sincerity.


They can also be sincerely wrong.

Then what do you suggest atheists should do to get saved? *Pretend*
they're convinced? Will that work? Does God reward insincerity?
--Billy
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User: "Billy Goat"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 07 Feb 2004 10:34:45 AM

ericvonl@my-deja.com (Billy Goat) wrote in message news:<6bd3c70a.0402041756.6cdd12da@posting.google.com>...

Snubis <`> wrote in message news:<4f2e0dd68bd1e3a64dd6ce8866a8ca58@news.teranews.com>...

On Tue 03 Feb 2004 10:58:09p, gmanon <gmanon@nyc.rr.com> wrote in
news:40206DDA.6010806@nyc.rr.com:

My humble opinion,

Atheist have the right to not believe in God if they are not

convinced.

That is called sincerity.


They can also be sincerely wrong.


Then what do you suggest atheists should do to get saved? *Pretend*
they're convinced? Will that work? Does God reward insincerity?

--Billy

No answer, coward?
Have you realized your mistake? Have you realized that you are
essentially criticizing atheists for being honest? Have you realized
that this is an admission that honesty is not a Christian value?
--Billy
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User: "Daniel Kolle"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 07:59:06 PM
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:08:56 GMT, Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> thought
hard and said:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

I like trolls with originality. You are not original. Be gone with
you.
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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User: "Mark Richardson"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 05:23:25 PM
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:08:56 GMT, Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you?

Their morals - their empathy for their fellow creatures - their
conscience.
In short EXACTLY the same thing that would stop a christian or a jew
or a hindu.
The only difference being that the atheist will not say that God is
the Source of their conscience.

Not their conscience.

Why not?

With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you.

Why would he? Do you feel compelled to care for the ants beneath your
feet?
That doesn't make sense.

All He asks for is love!

Why? Why does he want for anything?
That doesn't make sense.
Mark.
--
Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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User: "Christopher A. Lee"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 04:59:23 PM
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:08:56 GMT, Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you?

Don't be so fucking stupid.

Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.

Don't be so fucking stupid.

He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

Don't be so fucking stupid.
If you're so sociopathing your Santa Claus-equivalent belief is all
that's stopping you from doing that yourself, than I'm glad you don't
live near me.
You need to be locked up for everybody's protection.
Don
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User: "satyr"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 10:42:05 PM
On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 20:08:56 GMT, Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

Who's to stop a Christian by the name of Charles Kopp from taking an
assault rifle and killing Dr. Barnett Slepian in Buffalo, N.Y. on Oct.
23, 1998? Not his God. With atheism, you don't have a reason to hate
people who think differently from you. All we ask for is sanity!
(Note that atheists deal in specifics while Christians have to make do
with hypotheticals.)
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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User: "towelie"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 11:24:48 PM
TV's Timothy Rump wrote:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and
killing you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to
feel safe. He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

Why do you have to beg for love for your god? Why can't he come to us and
ask us himself?
--
Don't waste your touch, you won't feel anything
Or were you sent to save me?
I've thought too much
You won't find anything worthy of redeeming
AFI - The Leaving Song Pt. II
aa #2133
apatriot #19
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 03 Feb 2004 06:21:05 AM
On Mon, 2 Feb 2004 23:24:48 -0600, "towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:

TV's Timothy Rump wrote:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and
killing you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to
feel safe. He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


Why do you have to beg for love for your god? Why can't he come to us and
ask us himself?

You don't ask someone to love you. You act in a loving manner, which God seems
unable or unwilling to do.
God really needs counseling.

--
apatriot #19

-Barry
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User: "Elf M. Sternberg"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 03:13:59 PM
Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> writes:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

And what stops you from taking an assault rifle and killing all
atheists? Nothing. Worse, it's positively been mandated by your
religion.
C'mon, say it with me. "DEUS VOLT!"
Elf
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User: "Bill L"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 04:24:22 PM
"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:m3llnlfalk.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me...

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> writes:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


And what stops you from taking an assault rifle and killing all
atheists? Nothing. Worse, it's positively been mandated by your
religion.

C'mon, say it with me. "DEUS VOLT!"

Elf

Errr I'm a bit worried. As an atheist this taking up a gun thing and killing
people isn't compulsory is it? ;o)
BillL
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User: "The Emperors New Clayton"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 05:54:02 PM
"Bill L" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:q6ATb.4779$F92.44354747@news-text.cableinet.net...


"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message

news:m3llnlfalk.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me...

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> writes:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and

killing

you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


And what stops you from taking an assault rifle and killing all
atheists? Nothing. Worse, it's positively been mandated by your
religion.

C'mon, say it with me. "DEUS VOLT!"

Elf


Errr I'm a bit worried. As an atheist this taking up a gun thing and

killing

people isn't compulsory is it? ;o)

BillL

I hope not....I have a pathological fear of guns. Commiting mass murder
might have a negative effect on my psyche!!



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User: "Jamie Gaffney"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 08:02:25 AM
"Bill L" <billc1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<q6ATb.4779$F92.44354747@news-text.cableinet.net>...

"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:m3llnlfalk.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me...

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> writes:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


And what stops you from taking an assault rifle and killing all
atheists? Nothing. Worse, it's positively been mandated by your
religion.

C'mon, say it with me. "DEUS VOLT!"

Elf


Errr I'm a bit worried. As an atheist this taking up a gun thing and killing
people isn't compulsory is it? ;o)

BillL

We're not allowed to have assault rifles where I live.
Besides, I can't afford to buy an assault rifle right now. I have to
pay my subscription to the Evil Atheist Conspiracy Black Helicopter
Maintenance Fund.
Still, I'm going out to steal the money from church collection plates
this weekend so no doubt I'll be able to buy more copies of 'The
Origin Of Species' to plant in hotel rooms.
Or whatever it is atheists do of a weekend.
Regards
Jamie
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 11:59:16 AM
And so upon Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:24:22 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:


"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message
news:m3llnlfalk.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me...

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> writes:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


And what stops you from taking an assault rifle and killing all
atheists? Nothing. Worse, it's positively been mandated by your
religion.

C'mon, say it with me. "DEUS VOLT!"

Elf


Errr I'm a bit worried. As an atheist this taking up a gun thing and killing
people isn't compulsory is it? ;o)

Not at all. Too crude and no finesse.
We here at the EAC (which does not exist of course) prefer more creative
endeavors. Like the new holographic demon projector (great fun for adding
a bit of spice to the nearest fundie church anti-Halloween church
gathering!).
Operators (if they existed) are standing by...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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User: "Bill L"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 12:42:18 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.04.17.59.15.568788@hoo.com-amikchi...

And so upon Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:24:22 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:


"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message

news:m3llnlfalk.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me...

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> writes:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and

killing

you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel

safe.

He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


And what stops you from taking an assault rifle and killing all
atheists? Nothing. Worse, it's positively been mandated by your
religion.

C'mon, say it with me. "DEUS VOLT!"

Elf


Errr I'm a bit worried. As an atheist this taking up a gun thing and

killing

people isn't compulsory is it? ;o)


Not at all. Too crude and no finesse.

We here at the EAC (which does not exist of course) prefer more creative
endeavors. Like the new holographic demon projector (great fun for adding
a bit of spice to the nearest fundie church anti-Halloween church
gathering!).

Operators (if they existed) are standing by...

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."

Hello peeps
Only me :o) But do you mind awfully if I remain an athiest whilst people
with faith practice your religions without interruption and in peace
(without ramming your personal dogmas down the throats of those who have no
belief in an 'after-life' you can't provide empirical evidence for ;o)?
As far as I'm aware (and been told) I'm not a bad person (though probably
not the brightest lightbulb in the pack ;o) I'm not about to go psycho just
because I don't believe in a higher being - comprende?
Cheers to you all
BillL
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 12:52:49 PM
And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:42:18 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.04.17.59.15.568788@hoo.com-amikchi...

And so upon Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:24:22 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:


"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message

news:m3llnlfalk.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me...

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> writes:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and

killing

you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel

safe.

He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


And what stops you from taking an assault rifle and killing all
atheists? Nothing. Worse, it's positively been mandated by your
religion.

C'mon, say it with me. "DEUS VOLT!"

Elf


Errr I'm a bit worried. As an atheist this taking up a gun thing and

killing

people isn't compulsory is it? ;o)


Not at all. Too crude and no finesse.

We here at the EAC (which does not exist of course) prefer more creative
endeavors. Like the new holographic demon projector (great fun for adding
a bit of spice to the nearest fundie church anti-Halloween church
gathering!).

Operators (if they existed) are standing by...

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."

Hello peeps

Only me :o) But do you mind awfully if I remain an athiest whilst people
with faith practice your religions without interruption and in peace
(without ramming your personal dogmas down the throats of those who have no
belief in an 'after-life' you can't provide empirical evidence for ;o)?

As far as I'm aware (and been told) I'm not a bad person (though probably
not the brightest lightbulb in the pack ;o) I'm not about to go psycho just
because I don't believe in a higher being - comprende?

Cheers to you all

BillL

Practice "your" religions?
Do you have me confused with a theist by any chance?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 21 Feb 2004 05:59:48 AM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.04.18.52.48.825601@hoo.com-amikchi...

And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:42:18 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.04.17.59.15.568788@hoo.com-amikchi...

And so upon Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:24:22 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:

"Elf M. Sternberg" <elf@drizzle.com> wrote in message


news:m3llnlfalk.fsf@localhost.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me...

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> writes:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and

killing

you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel

safe.

He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


And what stops you from taking an assault rifle and killing

all

atheists? Nothing. Worse, it's positively been mandated by your
religion.

C'mon, say it with me. "DEUS VOLT!"

Elf


Errr I'm a bit worried. As an atheist this taking up a gun thing and

killing

people isn't compulsory is it? ;o)


Not at all. Too crude and no finesse.

We here at the EAC (which does not exist of course) prefer more

creative

endeavors. Like the new holographic demon projector (great fun for

adding

a bit of spice to the nearest fundie church anti-Halloween church
gathering!).
Operators (if they existed) are standing by...
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."


Hello peeps
Only me :o) But do you mind awfully if I remain an athiest whilst people
with faith practice your religions without interruption and in peace
(without ramming your personal dogmas down the throats of those who have

no

belief in an 'after-life' you can't provide empirical evidence for ;o)?
As far as I'm aware (and been told) I'm not a bad person (though

probably

not the brightest lightbulb in the pack ;o) I'm not about to go psycho

just

because I don't believe in a higher being - comprende?
Cheers to you all


"Not being a bad person" doesn't qualify you for heaven, but might very
well qualify you for hell, because you believe the lies people tell you to
flatter your ego. Additionally you might not believe in beings higher than
yourself, but most likely you DO believe in beings lower than yourself,
don't you? Bad move!!!! You will be judged by the same standards you apply
to others, especially "the least of them". Furthermore, there are two kinds
of sin, i.e. sins of commission and sins of omission. the sins of omission
will get you in trouble before the others will. See below
--
Pastor Frank
CHRIST'S SOCIAL GOSPEL
(Jesus in Matt: 25:41): Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,
Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and
his angels:
42: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave
me no drink:
43: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not:
sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44: Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an
hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did
not minister unto thee?
45: Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye
did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46: And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the mercyful
into life eternal.
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User: "Scrabble"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 21 Feb 2004 03:32:19 PM
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004, Pastor Frank wrote:

"Not being a bad person" doesn't qualify you for heaven, but might very
well qualify you for hell, because you believe the lies people tell you to
flatter your ego.

As oppose to believing the lies you tell yourself to flatter yours.

Additionally you might not believe in beings higher than yourself, but
most likely you DO believe in beings lower than yourself, don't you? Bad
move!!!! You will be judged by the same standards you apply to others,
especially "the least of them".

You're inventing motives for other people & then you chastise them for
doing exactly what you're doing to them. Go ahead & start frothing fundie
platitudes. You just got "judged by the same standards you [applied] to
others ..."

CHRIST'S SOCIAL GOSPEL

[meglomanical rant interspersed with faux empathy for others by over rated
wannabe demigod deleted]
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User: "TehGhodTrole"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 21 Feb 2004 06:28:01 AM
Pastor Frank wrote:

You will be judged by the same standards you apply to others

More total pillocking crap from the "PASTOR".
The standard to be applied is Christ.
Romans 3:23 [NIV]
for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Jesus Christ is the standard by which every nation will be judged. They will
be judged by whether Jesus Christ was their stumbling block or their
cornerstone.
Matthew 7:1-2 [NIV]
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge
others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be
measured to you.
Matthew 7:1-2 is telling us not to take judgement of others upon
ourselves unless we are willing to accept the judgement due to
ourselves. It is not saying that we will be judged the way you say
it. This must be so since when we are judged, Christ's
righteousness is credited to us.
Read your bible, "PASTOR".
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 22 Feb 2004 06:54:15 AM
"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
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Pastor Frank wrote:


You will be judged by the same standards you apply to others


More total pillocking crap from the "PASTOR".

"Pillocking crap" is unsuitable language for a debate. Are you here to
trash and flame or discuss viewpoints? If the former you will soon be
screeching into the "outer darkness" without getting a response.
What is your reference? I go by what I read in the NT of the Bible. See
below
--
Pastor Frank
Jesus in Mt:7:2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and
with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mt:23:12: And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that
shall humble himself shall be exalted.
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User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Mar 2004 06:22:02 AM
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 12:54:15 GMT, "Pastor Frank" <pf@christfirst.com> wrote:

"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:4cTtvwSXcdI2EB014A83962CEC51tIrm4Uz1WErr@kadaitcha.cx...

Pastor Frank wrote:


You will be judged by the same standards you apply to others


More total pillocking crap from the "PASTOR".

"Pillocking crap" is unsuitable language for a debate. Are you here to
trash and flame or discuss viewpoints? If the former you will soon be
screeching into the "outer darkness" without getting a response.
What is your reference? I go by what I read in the NT of the Bible. See
below

More total pillocking crap from the "PASTOR".
More total pillocking crap from the "PASTOR".
More total pillocking crap from the "PASTOR".

--
Pastor Frank

Jesus in Mt:7:2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and
with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mt:23:12: And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that
shall humble himself shall be exalted.



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Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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User: "TehGhodTrole"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 22 Feb 2004 09:25:04 AM
Pastor Frank wrote:

"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:4cTtvwSXcdI2EB014A83962CEC51tIrm4Uz1WErr@kadaitcha.cx...

Pastor Frank wrote:


You will be judged by the same standards you apply to others


More total pillocking crap from the "PASTOR".

"Pillocking crap" is unsuitable language for a debate.

So sue me, "PASTOR".

Are you
here to trash and flame or discuss viewpoints?

More the latter and far less the former, though I would have said I'm also
here to expose blatantly unscriptural teachings for what they are. Have I
made you aware yet that you seem to have a few of them under your belt?

If the former you will
soon be screeching into the "outer darkness" without getting a
response.

Hey, I'm the worst there is, mate. It's no skin off my nose. I'm forgiven.
Anyway, krillfiling is useless. But the proof of the pudding is in the
eating, so anything I write needs to be held up against scripture, eh? To
merely imply a plonk on the grounds you don't like the description of the
forrest but still can't see the trees, is merely indicative of a problem on
your end, not on mine.

What is your reference? I go by what I read in the NT
of the Bible. See below

There is nothing below. Thus I infer you might mean that you make things up
as you go along. Unless you referred to something in your signature, which
gets trimmed by good newsreaders these days, and IIRC, has something to do
with not calling you to account for your heresy. Oh, that's right... It's
"don't tell me I'm wrong or I'll accuse you of being judgemental."
How'd I do, "PASTOR"?
--
TehGhodTrole: Trolling, for God's sake.
Your Free Insult: Jesus loves you.
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User: "Pastor Frank"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 23 Feb 2004 07:51:03 AM
"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:Ngq211suFPKGDFD4308EBC77F0F7vDEKTVNK2cwC@kadaitcha.cx...

Pastor Frank wrote:

"TehGhodTrole" <nospam@rainx.cjb.net> wrote in message
news:4cTtvwSXcdI2EB014A83962CEC51tIrm4Uz1WErr@kadaitcha.cx...

Pastor Frank wrote:


You will be judged by the same standards you apply to others


More total pillocking crap from the "PASTOR".

"Pillocking crap" is unsuitable language for a debate.


So sue me, "PASTOR".

Are you
here to trash and flame or discuss viewpoints?


More the latter and far less the former, though I would have said I'm also
here to expose blatantly unscriptural teachings for what they are. Have I
made you aware yet that you seem to have a few of them under your belt?

You must be thinking of someone else, for I take pains to document what
I say, for I do not want to leave the impression I only spout my personal
and private opinions, sans reference.

If the former you will
soon be screeching into the "outer darkness" without getting a
response.


Hey, I'm the worst there is, mate. It's no skin off my nose. I'm forgiven.
Anyway, krillfiling is useless. But the proof of the pudding is in the
eating, so anything I write needs to be held up against scripture, eh?

Read my question: What is YOUR reference?
To

merely imply a plonk on the grounds you don't like the description of the
forrest but still can't see the trees, is merely indicative of a problem

on

your end, not on mine.

What is your reference? I go by what I read in the NT
of the Bible. See below


There is nothing below.

My reference of the above statement that you will be judged by the same
standards you apply to others is: Jesus in Mt:7:2: For with what judgment ye
judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be
measured to you again.
That means that your accusation of me spouting unbiblical opinions is
proved false. Case closed. Thank you and DO try again.
--
Pastor Frank
JUDGMENT
Jesus in Mt:18:7: Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs
be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
Jesus in Mt:7:2: For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and
with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Mt:23:12: And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that
shall humble himself shall be exalted.
Rv:13:10: He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that
killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience
and the faith of the saints.
Jesus in Jn:8:15: Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Jesus in Lk:6:37: Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye
shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
1Cor:4:3: But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of
you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self.
1Cor:4:4: For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but
he that judgeth me is the Lord.
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User: "Snubis"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 03:03:01 PM
On Wed 04 Feb 2004 01:52:49p, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.02.04.18.52.48.825601@hoo.com-amikchi:

And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:42:18 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.04.17.59.15.568788@hoo.com-amikchi...

And so upon Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:24:22 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:


Hello peeps

Only me :o) But do you mind awfully if I remain an athiest whilst
people with faith practice your religions without interruption and in
peace (without ramming your personal dogmas down the throats of those
who have no belief in an 'after-life' you can't provide empirical
evidence for ;o)?

As far as I'm aware (and been told) I'm not a bad person (though
probably not the brightest lightbulb in the pack ;o) I'm not about to
go psycho just because I don't believe in a higher being - comprende?


Practice "your" religions?

Do you have me confused with a theist by any chance?

Religion does not equal theism.
--

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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 03:27:42 PM
And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 21:03:01 +0000 didst Snubis speak thusly:

On Wed 04 Feb 2004 01:52:49p, "Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in
news:pan.2004.02.04.18.52.48.825601@hoo.com-amikchi:

And so upon Wed, 04 Feb 2004 18:42:18 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.02.04.17.59.15.568788@hoo.com-amikchi...

And so upon Mon, 02 Feb 2004 22:24:22 +0000 didst Bill L speak thusly:


Hello peeps

Only me :o) But do you mind awfully if I remain an athiest whilst
people with faith practice your religions without interruption and in
peace (without ramming your personal dogmas down the throats of those
who have no belief in an 'after-life' you can't provide empirical
evidence for ;o)?

As far as I'm aware (and been told) I'm not a bad person (though
probably not the brightest lightbulb in the pack ;o) I'm not about to
go psycho just because I don't believe in a higher being - comprende?


Practice "your" religions?

Do you have me confused with a theist by any chance?


Religion does not equal theism.

I was asking the guy who seems to think I am other than an atheist if he
had me mistaken for someone I'm not.
Do try to keep up.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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User: "Maverick"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 01:20:39 PM
Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote in
news:c0a0ed1f6ae3e37909bbfd03d140e09f@news.teranews.com:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you?

Or what is going to stop religious fundamentalists to do the same?

Not their conscience.

Ah, yes. Yet another fool who believes that atheists have no conscince. Why
do you people insist that it's better to believe in whatever seem to be
false?

With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

Are you suggesting you can buy love?
.

User: "Woden"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 07:17:11 PM
Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote in
news:c0a0ed1f6ae3e37909bbfd03d140e09f@news.teranews.com:

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

Today's dose of stupdity and ignorance, with a touch of arrogance, brought
to you in the name of "god".
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
.

User: "Martin Thomas"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 02:08:10 PM
Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote in message news:<c0a0ed1f6ae3e37909bbfd03d140e09f@news.teranews.com>...

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

But will he let me kill people?
Sometimes I get into a bad mood and really want to commit mass murder,
often as a result of the most trivial provocation. So why don't I do
it? I am an atheist, after all.
Trouble is, it is just not in my nature to hurt people. I can't even
kick the ***** out of them and break their bones - or torture them like
the big strong men in the movies do. And I could no more kill a random
stranger with an assault rifle than I could sit on a porcupine.
-
Martin Thomas
Official "Teddy Bear" Atheist
mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net
P point claimed!! - Yippee!!
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User: "Alan Hobson"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 02 Feb 2004 08:32:48 PM
Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote in message news:<c0a0ed1f6ae3e37909bbfd03d140e09f@news.teranews.com>...

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!

Hmmm... God didn't stop Timothy McVeigh from blowing up all those
people. What does that say about your theory?
-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA
.
User: "Barry OGrady"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 03 Feb 2004 06:20:58 AM
On 2 Feb 2004 18:32:48 -0800,
(Alan Hobson) wrote:

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote in message news:<c0a0ed1f6ae3e37909bbfd03d140e09f@news.teranews.com>...

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


Hmmm... God didn't stop Timothy McVeigh from blowing up all those
people. What does that say about your theory?

New evidence appears to show that Timothy McVeigh was not guilty.

-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA

-Barry
========
Web page: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~barry.og
Atheist, radio scanner, LIPD information.
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Why "atheism" is ***** 04 Feb 2004 12:31:57 AM
Barry OGrady <god_freee_jones@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 2 Feb 2004 18:32:48 -0800,

(Alan Hobson) wrote:

Timothy Rump <Timothy_Rump> wrote in message news:<c0a0ed1f6ae3e37909bbfd03d140e09f@news.teranews.com>...

Who's going to stop an atheist from taking an assault rifle and killing
you? Not their conscience. With God, you have a reason to feel safe.
He will love you and protect you. All He asks for is love!


Hmmm... God didn't stop Timothy McVeigh from blowing up all those
people. What does that say about your theory?


New evidence appears to show that Timothy McVeigh was not guilty.

In what universe?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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