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"Bob Dog" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:25:11 AM |
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They said disease would follow the tsunami... |
Here are a few news links currently available on how disgusting
xians truly are, preying on victims at the time they need help.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-
8&q=christians+proselytizing+tsunami&btnG=Search+News
Some of the titles are listed below, followed by this editorial:
http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2005/01/24/62879
On xianity, he says:
"[...cretinous, Bronze Age desert morality of the most
genocidal book ever written...]".
I like the guy already.
Bob Dog
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Is the US thumping the Bible?
Axis of Logic, MA - Jan 28, 2005
.... than humanitarian aide to victims of the tsunami. ...
Proselytizing, especially during such times of need, will not only
backfire against the Christians from Sri ...
Tempering evangelism: Tsunami missionaries should put aid first
Fort Wayne News Sentinel, IN - Jan 26, 2005
.... Church, which sent a relief team into tsunami-stricken Sri ...
have outraged Sri Lankan Christians and non-Christians by
aggressively proselytizing among the ...
Mixing of Humanitarian Aid, Evangelism Continues to Stir ...
Christian Post, CA - Jan 27, 2005
.... which sent a relief team into tsunami-stricken Sri ... that
the such attempts at proselytizing could provoke a violent backlash
against Christians in the ...
Critics say some Christians spread aid and Gospel
Chicago Tribune (subscription), IL - Jan 22, 2005
.... 26 tsunami killed more than 157,000 people and left millions
homeless, relief groups have ... Most shun proselytizing and make
little reference to what they believe ...
In tsunami area, anger at evangelists
International Herald Tribune, France - Jan 23, 2005
.... Christian leaders say proselytizing could reverse the grass-
roots interfaith cooperation that has emerged since the tsunami and
endanger Christians, who make ...
Sri Lankans complain of Texas Christians
Washington Times, DC - Jan 22, 2005
.... of a fundamentalist Christian group from Texas are raising
hackles in tsunami-ravaged Sri ... an evangelical church based in
Waco, has been proselytizing in the ...
Islam Online
British Muslims Counter Tsunami Proselytizing
Islam Online, UK - Jan 14, 2005
.... Virginia-based WorldHelp has raised money among evangelical
Christians by presenting ... government had refused permission to
move 300 tsunami orphans from ...
Fulton County funds continue to arrive at local Red Cross office
Canton Daily Ledger, IL - Jan 22, 2005
.... The tsunami disaster, however, has given a high-profile ...
response to any Christian visitor accused of proselytizing. ... As
Christians, we are called to help others ...
Religion Today Summaries - January 25, 2005
Crosswalk.com - Jan 24, 2005
.... Church in Waco have been proselytizing in the ... of 12
countries in southern Asia devastated by the tsunami. ... provoke
a violent backlash against Christians in Sri ...
Missionary Group Abandons Plan to Raise Muslim Tsunami Orphans
CharismaNews.com - Jan 17, 2005
.... its plans to place 300 Muslim tsunami orphans in ... children's
home after it triggered proselytizing concerns. ... it was working
with Indonesian Christians who want ...
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The time is now to lose your faith
How can one believe in an omniscient, omnipotent and
omnibenevolent deity in the face of unimaginable destruction
and loss such as December’s tsunami?
Whenever I’m feeling lazy or uninspired and I have to write a
column, it’s always a struggle to resist the temptation to attack
intellectual "soft targets." And, of course, there is no softer
target than the religious right.
After all, criticizing a worldview centered on the cretinous,
Bronze Age desert morality of the most genocidal book ever
written is like bumper bowling for the mind. Picking on premodern
creatures such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and James Dobson
is fun but not very challenging, because they’re constantly
outdumbing themselves.
Last week, Dobson got himself in a tizzy because the cartoon
character SpongeBob SquarePants appears in a video for young
children that dares to suggest that gay people possess some sort
of inherent human dignity.
On Saturday, The New York Times ran an article about evangelical
Christian groups proselytizing while they distributed aid to
victims of last month’s tsunami in Asia. Not only is this a
flagrant violation of standards established by the Red Cross, but
it has dismayed the native Christians who fear reprisals from
offended Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists.
Look, there I go again ... No, I’ve got to cast my net a little
wider - not just toward the Christian right, but against anyone
who believes in God at all.
With the death toll from the recent tsunami increasing daily,
almost certain to climb past 250,000, there has never been a better
time for people who believe in God to re- examine their faith in the
Almighty. Nor has there been a better time for us nonbelievers to
do a little evangelizing on our own and effectively deploy one of the
best weapons in our vast intellectual arsenal: the Argument from
Natural Evil.
The Argument from Natural Evil goes like this: For any superior
being to be worthy of worship by humankind - a "basic deity" -
it must have at least three attributes. God must be smart, he must
be powerful and he must be good, or he is not God.
Keep in mind that this is a pretty low threshold. Most believers
claim to have a "three o’s deity": A God who is omniscient,
omnipotent and omnibenevolent. This, of course, only makes the
Argument from Natural Evil more powerful. The more concerned your
deity is with day-to-day world affairs, the more answering he has
to do from the Argument from Natural Evil.
Having established the minimal criteria for a being to be worthy
of humankind’s worship, we turn to whether a smart, powerful, good
being would allow the natural world - with its horrific tsunamis,
earthquakes, mudslides, volcano eruptions, etc. - to work in the
way it does.
Take the tsunami for instance. There is no doubt that much of the
suffering we’ve seen on television could have been avoided under
a radically different political and economic system. (Perversely,
despite the tsunami’s nearly incomprehensible devastation, world
stock markets have hardly taken a notice: Aceh’s oil and gas
fields remain intact and because few of the victims could afford
insurance of any kind, insurance companies are resting easy.)
Nevertheless, the immediate cause of the tsunami disaster was
natural; it was totally out of human hands. Would a smart,
powerful and good being have allowed the tsunami to happen in the
way that it did? The answer, which has to be admitted by anyone
with a shred of honesty, is "no."
A smart being would have known beforehand that, unless something
was done, a tsunami was going to occur Dec. 26 and kill hundreds
of thousands of people (including blameless infants and children)
and lay waste to a huge swath of the Earth.
A powerful being would have been able to prevent the disaster
somehow. Perhaps the being is so powerful that it could simply
will the earthquake that produced the tsunami never to have
happened - but even if he wasn’t terribly powerful, couldn’t he
have at least warned the world ahead of time about this disaster?
A good being would have wanted to prevent, or at least alleviate,
the disaster. It would abhor needless suffering. Even if this
being had some mysterious, inscrutable "plan," surely it would
have chosen a more constructive way to accomplish it.
In light of the Argument from Natural Evil, the only conclusion
we can come to is that, in the extremely unlikely event that a
supernatural being of any kind exists, it lacks one or two of
the qualities a basic deity has to have. Even if there is a
superior being of some kind, events like the tsunami demonstrate
that it has to be either not smart, not powerful or not good.
There might be, for example, a supernatural being that is both
smart and powerful but not good: Something like the wrathful,
genocidal war criminal Yahweh of the Old Testament - who ordered
the massacre of the Canaanites, Midianites, the people of Jericho
and many others. That might be the kind of God the folks at Focus
on the Family are into, but not for most people.
Likewise, there might be a supernatural being who is smart and
good but impotent: A being that knew about the tsunami and wanted
to do something about it but was powerless to intervene in a
meaningful way. But what’s the point of worshiping a weak
supernatural being?
And so on ... The point is that, if you think of yourself as a
thoughtful but faithful person, and you believe that your deity is
basically pretty decent, you have a very serious problem on your
hands. The Argument from Natural Evil ought to be eroding and
testing your faith.
You may count yourself among the faithless and you think, as I do,
that religion of any kind is a social malady that ought to be
eradicated, like racism. In that case, the weeks and months after
the tsunami - when all of this horrific news footage is fresh in
the world’s collective consciousness - are the perfect time to
swell our ranks by invoking the Argument from Natural Evil.
Nick Woomer welcomes comments at nwoomer@mndaily.com.
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01 Feb 2005 04:11:03 PM |
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Sam wrote:
< snip >
i had some dude at a
coffeeshop ask me if he could pray for me, i said sure, assuming he'd be
doing it elsewhere. i was wrong he grabbed my shoulder and proceeded to
have a tete a tete with his lord until i finally told him i had to
finish setting up the amp or i wouldnt get paid. very creepy...wait!
<whisper> i think hes outside...
And yet it's illegal to punch these people.
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Tukla, Eater of Theists, Squeaker of Chew Toys
Official Mascot of Alt.Atheism, aa 1347
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| User: "Randy Story" |
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| Title: Re: They said disease would follow the tsunami... |
31 Jan 2005 08:23:48 PM |
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"Josef Balluch" <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c68a2f4587c79be9899cf@206.172.150.13...
In a message sent 'round the world, Randy Story poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
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Not at all Sam. but think of it, even if you do good and I suspect most
do,
it is only an acknowledgement of your own so called goodness. Just think
if
there is an ultimately good God that we only get to participate in its
goodness. To claim our own acts as from our own goodness would be the
worst
of all offenses. It would like receiving a million dollars as a gift
from
someone and then saying that somehow you earned it. To not acknowledge
the
giver is pride manifest.
Nonsense, Randy. Your "perfect" deity cannot have any needs or wants,
for there is nothing that is lacking in a perfect existence. There is no
way to improve upon your deity's perfect existence, so nothing that we
could do would be of any significance.
Regards,
Josef
Your right Josef but it is for us that we need to worship, to give thanks,
to acknowledge our contingent status, our finite limited puny abilitys. God
has absolutely no needs but desires that we enjoy his nature for our sakes
alone. At least you comprehend that a perfect God would be like this.
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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01 Feb 2005 05:36:09 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, Randy Story poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
"Josef Balluch" <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c68a2f4587c79be9899cf@206.172.150.13...
In a message sent 'round the world, Randy Story poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
Not at all Sam. but think of it, even if you do good and I suspect most
do,
it is only an acknowledgement of your own so called goodness. Just think
if
there is an ultimately good God that we only get to participate in its
goodness. To claim our own acts as from our own goodness would be the
worst
of all offenses. It would like receiving a million dollars as a gift
from
someone and then saying that somehow you earned it. To not acknowledge
the
giver is pride manifest.
Nonsense, Randy. Your "perfect" deity cannot have any needs or wants,
for there is nothing that is lacking in a perfect existence. There is no
way to improve upon your deity's perfect existence, so nothing that we
could do would be of any significance.
....
Your right Josef but it is for us that we need to worship, to give thanks,
to acknowledge our contingent status, our finite limited puny abilitys.
Then you would have no problem with my worship of Aphrodite.
God
has absolutely no needs but desires that we enjoy his nature for our sakes
alone.
This contradicts your claim above that "To claim our own acts as from
our own goodness would be the worst of all offenses". A deity that has
no needs cannot be offended, for offense would mean that the deity lacks
something.
At least you comprehend that a perfect God would be like this.
I comprehend that your deity is a collection of contradictions and
fallacies.
Regards,
Josef
Faith is when you believe something that nobody in his right mind
would believe.
-- Archie Bunker
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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01 Feb 2005 11:26:34 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:23:48 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> said in alt.atheism:
Your right Josef but it is for us that we need to worship, to give thanks,
to acknowledge our contingent status, our finite limited puny abilitys.
For you, maybe. Not for sane people.
--
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Feb 2005 09:31:27 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:18:34 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, Randy Story poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
Not at all Sam. but think of it, even if you do good and I suspect most do,
it is only an acknowledgement of your own so called goodness. Just think if
there is an ultimately good God that we only get to participate in its
goodness. To claim our own acts as from our own goodness would be the worst
of all offenses. It would like receiving a million dollars as a gift from
someone and then saying that somehow you earned it. To not acknowledge the
giver is pride manifest.
Nonsense, Randy. Your "perfect" deity cannot have any needs or wants,
for there is nothing that is lacking in a perfect existence. There is no
way to improve upon your deity's perfect existence, so nothing that we
could do would be of any significance.
Worse is the mere action of 'creating' a universe and everything in it
demonstrates the Xtain Daemon God(tm) had needs and wants which
eliminated perfection.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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31 Jan 2005 07:38:05 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:44:58 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> said in alt.atheism:
Not at all Sam. but think of it, even if you do good and I suspect most do,
it is only an acknowledgement of your own so called goodness. Just think if
there is an ultimately good God that we only get to participate in its
goodness. To claim our own acts as from our own goodness would be the worst
of all offenses.
To you, not to the god who created us to think the way we do.
Or are you claiming that your god DIDN'T create atheists?
It would like receiving a million dollars as a gift from
someone and then saying that somehow you earned it.
It would be - if there were actual evidence that "someone" existed.
There isn't any that YOUR someone does.
To not acknowledge the giver is pride manifest.
1) If pride exists your god created it.
2) Why "Acknowledge" a "giver" for whose existence there's no
evidence? Do you acknowledge the gifts Zeus gives you?
--
"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate understanding
the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
- Letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein Archive 59-085
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| User: "Randy Story" |
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31 Jan 2005 08:26:05 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:q6ntv0pgl3qeft95evlvmuto57ecn3l59d@4ax.com...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:44:58 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> said in alt.atheism:
Not at all Sam. but think of it, even if you do good and I suspect most
do,
it is only an acknowledgement of your own so called goodness. Just think
if
there is an ultimately good God that we only get to participate in its
goodness. To claim our own acts as from our own goodness would be the
worst
of all offenses.
To you, not to the god who created us to think the way we do.
Or are you claiming that your god DIDN'T create atheists?
He creates humans with freewill, you choose not to believe.
It would like receiving a million dollars as a gift from
someone and then saying that somehow you earned it.
It would be - if there were actual evidence that "someone" existed.
There isn't any that YOUR someone does.
To not acknowledge the giver is pride manifest.
1) If pride exists your god created it.
2) Why "Acknowledge" a "giver" for whose existence there's no
evidence? Do you acknowledge the gifts Zeus gives you?
I have given you evidence many times.
"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate
understanding
the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."
- Letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein
Archive 59-085
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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01 Feb 2005 02:38:30 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:26:05 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> said in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:q6ntv0pgl3qeft95evlvmuto57ecn3l59d@4ax.com...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:44:58 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> said in alt.atheism:
Not at all Sam. but think of it, even if you do good and I suspect most do,
it is only an acknowledgement of your own so called goodness. Just think if
there is an ultimately good God that we only get to participate in its
goodness. To claim our own acts as from our own goodness would be the worst
of all offenses.
To you, not to the god who created us to think the way we do.
Or are you claiming that your god DIDN'T create atheists?
He creates humans with freewill
No, we're talking about the Christian all-knowing, all-powerful
creator of the universe. The one whose existence precludes free will.
(The future can't be both mutable and immutable.)
you choose not to believe.
No, I *don't* believe. It was never a choice. That you can't
understand the difference is totally irrelevant. If Christianity is
correct, your god created me in such manner that I can't believe the
Christian claims, so it's his responsibility that I can't believe. If
it's not his responsibility it's only because he doesn't exist.
It would like receiving a million dollars as a gift from
someone and then saying that somehow you earned it.
It would be - if there were actual evidence that "someone" existed.
There isn't any that YOUR someone does.
To not acknowledge the giver is pride manifest.
1) If pride exists your god created it.
2) Why "Acknowledge" a "giver" for whose existence there's no
evidence? Do you acknowledge the gifts Zeus gives you?
I have given you evidence many times.
You've made assertions. That's not evidence. Neither is the bible.
Neither is apologism. But there's at least as much actual evidence
for Zeus as there is for your god, so who's proud?
--
"I see only with deep regret that God punishes so many of His children for their
numerous stupidities, for which only He Himself can be held responsible; in my opinion,
only His nonexistence could excuse Him."
-A. Einstein (Letter to Edgar Meyer, Jan. 2, 1915)
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| User: "stoney" |
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02 Feb 2005 02:22:47 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 18:26:05 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
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Randy, you're the eptiome of an ignorant dumb *****.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Feb 2005 09:29:27 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:49:51 GMT, Sam <srcarruth@yahoo.NO.SPAM.com>
wrote:
Randy Story wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:jklrv0h3vgfahbbtvnkj198hahf33cnfb8@4ax.com...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:13:05 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Mother Theresa was bad enough, thanks. Imagine denying the dying simple
pain
meds such as aspirin let alone cheap heavy duty pain meds that one would
expect to be administered to those dying of cancer. Now imagine this
same
person stating "It is good to suffer". What a cold hearted ***** with a
desire to prolong excruciating pain.
Yet she never turned down the most sophisticated hospital care for
herself.
--
"Atheism is the world of reality, it is reason, it is freedom. Atheism is
human concern, and intellectual honesty to a degree that the religious
mind
cannot begin to understand. And yet it is more than this. Atheism is not
an
old religion, it is not a new and coming religion, in fact it is not, and
never has been, a religion at all. The definition of Atheism is
magnificent in
its simplicity: Atheism is merely the bed-rock of sanity in a world of
madness."
[Atheism: An Affirmative View, by Emmett F. Fields]
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rukbat at verizon dot net
To Al.
Atheism is the world of illusion, it is irrational, it is bondage. Atheism
is the lack of human concern and without any standard for such, and
intellectual
dishonesty to a degree that the theistic mind can not comprehend. Yet it is
more. it is a religion of self deification & arrogance with no ultimate
standard for judgement. It is an old religion with self at the head as all
sin is shown to be. Atheism is insanity in a world filled with the reality
of God.
you god types really think we atheists are just wanton creatures of
evil, dont you? cant imagine us being good people, raising good kids,
obeying the law and being nice to people? and self-deification? i
guess some folks just dont grok...
***** heads like Randy don't have anything to grok with.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Feb 2005 09:28:31 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:56:52 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:13:05 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Mother Theresa was bad enough, thanks. Imagine denying the dying simple pain
meds such as aspirin let alone cheap heavy duty pain meds that one would
expect to be administered to those dying of cancer. Now imagine this same
person stating "It is good to suffer". What a cold hearted ***** with a
desire to prolong excruciating pain.
Yet she never turned down the most sophisticated hospital care for
herself.
Of course not!
/mocking
"She's Spechul."
/mocking
Her fundraising probably more than paid for the Catholic Ego Mausoleum
in Los Angeles.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Feb 2005 09:26:13 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:13:05 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
bg12345@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote in
news:Xns95EE822E7F71Cbg12345apexmailcom@203.233.108.173:
Here are a few news links currently available on how disgusting
xians truly are, preying on victims at the time they need help.
Mother Theresa was bad enough, thanks. Imagine denying the dying simple pain
meds such as aspirin let alone cheap heavy duty pain meds that one would
expect to be administered to those dying of cancer. Now imagine this same
person stating "It is good to suffer". What a cold hearted ***** with a
desire to prolong excruciating pain. What the hell was wrong with her? More
importantly, what was wrong with those in authority over her? Even those in
a position of authority saw this happening and did nothing to stop it.
Xtians...what hypocricy! What cruelty! I would not treat an insect like
that let alone an animal and yet she did it to a human.
You have compassion, empathy, and humanity unlike myraid Christians
and Muslims.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "rj" |
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02 Feb 2005 11:24:50 AM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
news:e1i00199buk6bdor1fobjrm7gp7cdeb2l4@4ax.com:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:13:05 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
bg12345@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote in
news:Xns95EE822E7F71Cbg12345apexmailcom@203.233.108.173:
Here are a few news links currently available on how disgusting
xians truly are, preying on victims at the time they need help.
Mother Theresa was bad enough, thanks. Imagine denying the dying simple
pain meds such as aspirin let alone cheap heavy duty pain meds that one
would expect to be administered to those dying of cancer. Now imagine
this same person stating "It is good to suffer". What a cold hearted
***** with a desire to prolong excruciating pain. What the hell was
wrong with her? More importantly, what was wrong with those in
authority over her? Even those in a position of authority saw this
happening and did nothing to stop it. Xtians...what hypocricy! What
cruelty! I would not treat an insect like that let alone an animal and
yet she did it to a human.
You have compassion, empathy, and humanity unlike myraid Christians
and Muslims.
Don't most atheists?
rj
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04 Feb 2005 03:16:29 PM |
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:24:50 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:13:05 GMT, rj <rj@yahoo.com> wrote:
bg12345@apexmail.com (Bob Dog) wrote in
news:Xns95EE822E7F71Cbg12345apexmailcom@203.233.108.173:
Here are a few news links currently available on how disgusting
xians truly are, preying on victims at the time they need help.
Mother Theresa was bad enough, thanks. Imagine denying the dying simple
pain meds such as aspirin let alone cheap heavy duty pain meds that one
would expect to be administered to those dying of cancer. Now imagine
this same person stating "It is good to suffer". What a cold hearted
***** with a desire to prolong excruciating pain. What the hell was
wrong with her? More importantly, what was wrong with those in
authority over her? Even those in a position of authority saw this
happening and did nothing to stop it. Xtians...what hypocricy! What
cruelty! I would not treat an insect like that let alone an animal and
yet she did it to a human.
You have compassion, empathy, and humanity unlike myraid Christians
and Muslims.
Don't most atheists?
Probably.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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01 Feb 2005 09:25:04 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 08:25:11 +0000 (UTC), (Bob
Dog) wrote:
Here are a few news links currently available on how disgusting
xians truly are, preying on victims at the time they need help.
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&ie=UTF-
8&q=christians+proselytizing+tsunami&btnG=Search+News
Some of the titles are listed below, followed by this editorial:
http://www.mndaily.com/articles/2005/01/24/62879
On xianity, he says:
"[...cretinous, Bronze Age desert morality of the most
genocidal book ever written...]".
I like the guy already.
No kidding. This will have the rabid brain dead foaming at the mouth.
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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