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"Clockmeister" |
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22 Mar 2005 06:23:10 PM |
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Thought for the day |
Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching at
straws.
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| User: "Randy Story" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
22 Mar 2005 06:34:57 PM |
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"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts and discarding others as there
materialistc philosophy demands. World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves. Facts are reality, interpretations are
either true or false.
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| User: "Clockmeister" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
22 Mar 2005 06:44:15 PM |
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
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"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching
at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts and discarding others as there
materialistc philosophy demands.
Point is, science is searching for the facts. Religion is dismissing
everything.
World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves. Facts are reality, interpretations
are
either true or false.
Plenty of facts are surfacing, religion is only based on interpretation as
there are no facts to back any of it up.
I'd rather chance an educated opinion rather then choose an ignorant one.
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| User: "Randy Story" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
22 Mar 2005 06:48:00 PM |
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"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
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"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back
clutching
at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts and discarding others as there
materialistc philosophy demands.
Point is, science is searching for the facts. Religion is dismissing
everything.
Your reply shows just how narrow minded you are!!
World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves. Facts are reality, interpretations
are
either true or false.
Plenty of facts are surfacing, religion is only based on interpretation as
there are no facts to back any of it up.
I'd rather chance an educated opinion rather then choose an ignorant one.
I wolud rather look at the facts of reality and let reason guide my
interpretation,
not the ramblings of a particular worldview.
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| User: "Clockmeister" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
22 Mar 2005 07:15:46 PM |
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:1141fb2aqf95i4c@corp.supernews.com...
"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4240bc24$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
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"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4240b733$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back
clutching
at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts and discarding others as
there
materialistc philosophy demands.
Point is, science is searching for the facts. Religion is dismissing
everything.
Your reply shows just how narrow minded you are!!
Not at all, I'm completely open minded but a realist as well.
World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves. Facts are reality,
interpretations
are
either true or false.
Plenty of facts are surfacing, religion is only based on interpretation
as
there are no facts to back any of it up.
I'd rather chance an educated opinion rather then choose an ignorant
one.
I wolud rather look at the facts of reality and let reason guide my
interpretation,
not the ramblings of a particular worldview.
Indeed that is what I'm doing.
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| User: "Kate " |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
22 Mar 2005 09:05:15 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:48:00 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4240bc24$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:1141eij8dnr87e9@corp.supernews.com...
"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4240b733$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back
clutching
at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts and discarding others as there
materialistc philosophy demands.
Point is, science is searching for the facts. Religion is dismissing
everything.
Your reply shows just how narrow minded you are!!
World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves. Facts are reality, interpretations
are
either true or false.
Plenty of facts are surfacing, religion is only based on interpretation as
there are no facts to back any of it up.
I'd rather chance an educated opinion rather then choose an ignorant one.
I wolud rather look at the facts of reality and let reason guide my
interpretation,
not the ramblings of a particular worldview.
Ah, welcome to Atheism, Randy.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
22 Mar 2005 07:51:25 PM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:48:00 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4240bc24$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
news:1141eij8dnr87e9@corp.supernews.com...
"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4240b733$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back
clutching
at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts and discarding others as there
materialistc philosophy demands.
Point is, science is searching for the facts. Religion is dismissing
everything.
Your reply shows just how narrow minded you are!!
World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves. Facts are reality, interpretations
are
either true or false.
Plenty of facts are surfacing, religion is only based on interpretation as
there are no facts to back any of it up.
I'd rather chance an educated opinion rather then choose an ignorant one.
I wolud rather look at the facts of reality and let reason guide my
interpretation,
not the ramblings of a particular worldview.
And yet you don't.
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
23 Mar 2005 02:33:16 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:48:00 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
Point is, science is searching for the facts. Religion is dismissing
everything.
Your reply shows just how narrow minded you are!!
Randy, your scratch pads are less than 1 inch wide?
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| User: "JPG" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
23 Mar 2005 04:28:16 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:48:00 -0800, "Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
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"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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I wolud rather look at the facts of reality and let reason guide my
interpretation,
not the ramblings of a particular worldview.
Are you to be Dan Barker #2 ?
Welcome to the world of free-thought, now go and get your atheist number.
JPG
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
22 Mar 2005 07:31:18 PM |
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"Randy Story" <rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote in message
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"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching
at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts
That there's an external reality? Yeah, I suppose that's a leap.
and discarding others as there
materialistc philosophy demands.
No facts are discarded.
World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves.
Granted.
Facts are reality, interpretations are
either true or false.
Granted.
The whole point of the scientific method is to minimize the necessity for
interpretation.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Les Hellawell" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
23 Mar 2005 06:46:00 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:34:57 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4240b733$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts and discarding others as there
materialistc philosophy demands. World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves. Facts are reality, interpretations are
either true or false.
Explain why Galileo was persecuted for asking them to look through his
telescope at the Moon?
Why was Bacon put in prison for demonstrating how to make a rainbow?
Why are observers castigated and vilified by the religious merely for
reporting what they see? Why are they vilified, scorned castigated and
wilfully misrepresented for trying to explain what they see?
Why do they attack the messengers and not the message?
--
Les Hellawell
greetings from
YORKSHIRE - The White Rose County
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
23 Mar 2005 02:33:12 AM |
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:34:57 -0800, "Randy Story"
<rstorynw@olypen.com> wrote:
"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:4240b733$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching at
straws.
Sceince looks back assuming certain facts and discarding others as there
materialistc philosophy demands.
Your spell Czecher is on a holy day?
World views dictate the interpretation of
the facts, not the facts themselves. Facts are reality, interpretations are
either true or false.
Interpretations, my little f[r]iend, are the real of religion.
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| User: "If Life Gives You Clayton....Make Claytonaide" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
23 Mar 2005 01:17:43 AM |
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"Clockmeister" <no-one@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching at
straws.
Science is self correcting...religion is self-deluding!
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
22 Mar 2005 07:53:43 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:23:10 +0800, "Clockmeister"
<no-one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching at
straws.
Indeed. The religionist says "God's work is a wonder." The scientist
says "I wonder how that works."
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
24 Mar 2005 04:36:31 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:23:10 +0800, "Clockmeister"
<no-one@nowhere.com> wrote:
Science looks back to discover the facts, religion looks back clutching at
straws.
Naw. Superstition drools.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "someone" |
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| Title: Re: Thought for the day |
24 Mar 2005 04:38:43 PM |
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Naw. Superstition drools.
I'll contemplate that for the rest of the day.
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