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"Love a Sheep" |
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03 Apr 2005 03:06:46 PM |
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Time for an end to Popery |
The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all. Heaven knows we
have spilled so much blood over this issue in the past and still the
buggers keep producing Popes!
Just in case you are thinking I am yet another Orange ***** - think
again.We are better off without the sneering proddies in our midst
too. Let's have a future run for the people,free of priests and
beadcounters,pastors and sash bearers and base it on enlightened free
thought.Say no to a new Pope.
Flossie
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| User: "echo" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
03 Apr 2005 03:42:34 PM |
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"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all.
Acc. to the vatical prophecies of St. Malachy, there will be only two
more popes - either that, or he (1140 AD) or those who attributed
prophecies to him (c.1595) ran out of prophetic steam.
He gave each future pope a Latin motto: John Paul II was De Labore
Solaris. Acc. to John Hogue in his book The Last Pope (1998) this means
"From the sun's eclipse."
I don't know Latin; looks to me as if labore means labor, or work. JP
visited many countries around the world. If it means "eclipse," how would
one interpet that? Something to do with John Paul coming from Poland and
being under the dominion of the Nazis for a while?
The next pope - due in about 2 weeks - has the motto De Gloria Olivae,
meaning "From the Glory of the Olive." I have no clue as to what this
means. From some place that grows olives? One of the cardinals who may be a
candidate is black, and some olives are black. Since there are no green
candiates, that may be in his favor.
The last Pope is mottoed Petrus Romanus, which Hogue translates as "Peter
of Rome." Kind of an alpha/omega thing. Maybe he will be living in Rome
before being chosen.
Anybody got any better interpretationsof St. Malachy?
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| User: "Donn" |
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04 Apr 2005 01:40:29 AM |
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"echo" <echo@otk.cab> wrote:
The next pope - due in about 2 weeks - has the motto De Gloria Olivae,
meaning "From the Glory of the Olive."
The olive branch? - an offer of peace
Compromise from god-followers on all sides would be really nice.
--
Donn
Labhair An Teanga liom.
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| User: "Féachadóir" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
03 Apr 2005 08:05:21 PM |
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Scríobh "echo" <echo@otk.cab>:
"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all.
Acc. to the vatical prophecies of St. Malachy, there will be only two
more popes - either that, or he (1140 AD) or those who attributed
prophecies to him (c.1595) ran out of prophetic steam.
That, or the forgers who created the 'prophecy' later on ran out of
steam. The 'prophecy' was discovered during the 16th century. Oddly
enough, the predictions until the 16th century are concrete, those
afterwards are vague and ambiguous.
He gave each future pope a Latin motto: John Paul II was De Labore
Solaris. Acc. to John Hogue in his book The Last Pope (1998) this means
"From the sun's eclipse."
I don't know Latin; looks to me as if labore means labor, or work. JP
visited many countries around the world. If it means "eclipse," how would
one interpet that? Something to do with John Paul coming from Poland and
being under the dominion of the Nazis for a while?
Apparently there was a solar eclipse on 18 May 1920, the day Karol
Wojtyla was born.
The next pope - due in about 2 weeks - has the motto De Gloria Olivae,
meaning "From the Glory of the Olive." I have no clue as to what this
means. From some place that grows olives? One of the cardinals who may be a
candidate is black, and some olives are black. Since there are no green
candiates, that may be in his favor.
Or possibly, because olives are a symbol of peace.
The last Pope is mottoed Petrus Romanus, which Hogue translates as "Peter
of Rome." Kind of an alpha/omega thing. Maybe he will be living in Rome
before being chosen.
Anybody got any better interpretationsof St. Malachy?
Forgery, created to reassure the Pope that the church would endure.
--
'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir
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| User: "gonzo" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
03 Apr 2005 04:18:17 PM |
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echo <echo@otk.cab> wrote in message
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"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all.
Acc. to the vatical prophecies of St. Malachy, there will be only two
more popes - either that, or he (1140 AD) or those who attributed
prophecies to him (c.1595) ran out of prophetic steam.
He gave each future pope a Latin motto: John Paul II was De Labore
Solaris. Acc. to John Hogue in his book The Last Pope (1998) this means
"From the sun's eclipse."
I don't know Latin; looks to me as if labore means labor, or work. JP
visited many countries around the world. If it means "eclipse," how would
one interpet that? Something to do with John Paul coming from Poland and
being under the dominion of the Nazis for a while?
The next pope - due in about 2 weeks - has the motto De Gloria Olivae,
meaning "From the Glory of the Olive." I have no clue as to what this
means. From some place that grows olives? One of the cardinals who may be
a
candidate is black, and some olives are black. Since there are no green
candiates, that may be in his favor.
The last Pope is mottoed Petrus Romanus, which Hogue translates as
"Peter
of Rome." Kind of an alpha/omega thing. Maybe he will be living in Rome
before being chosen.
Anybody got any better interpretationsof St. Malachy?
Maybe this guy.....http://www.rense.com/general63/shakd.htm
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
05 Apr 2005 06:59:45 AM |
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"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all. Heaven knows we
have spilled so much blood over this issue in the past and still the
buggers keep producing Popes!
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
If every Muslim, Hindu and followers of all the other false faiths have to
die to achieve it then it is a price worth paying.
A W-S
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| User: "Duck" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
06 Apr 2005 12:45:33 AM |
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
*Has Earth informed God he's a Catholic yet, do the chosen people
know?
Duck
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
06 Apr 2005 02:56:57 AM |
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"Duck" <duckkayak@'microsoftsemailservice'.com> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
*Has Earth informed God he's a Catholic yet, do the chosen people
know?
Does the phrase 'a la orange' mean anything to you?
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| User: "Duck" |
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06 Apr 2005 05:53:44 AM |
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Duck" <duckkayak@'microsoftsemailservice'.com> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true
faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
*Has Earth informed God he's a Catholic yet, do the chosen people
know?
Does the phrase 'a la orange' mean anything to you?
*Posting from an Irish group? Yes.
Duck
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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06 Apr 2005 06:25:30 AM |
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"Duck" <duckkayak@'microsoftsemailservice'.com> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true
faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
*Has Earth informed God he's a Catholic yet, do the chosen people
know?
Does the phrase 'a la orange' mean anything to you?
*Posting from an Irish group? Yes.
Ah - so Irish Ducks are gastronomically au fait, oui?
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| User: "Madra Dubh" |
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06 Apr 2005 06:56:09 AM |
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Duck" <duckkayak@'microsoftsemailservice'.com> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
*Has Earth informed God he's a Catholic yet, do the chosen people
know?
Does the phrase 'a la orange' mean anything to you?
And this, dear people, is one of the secret signs of recognition used by the
Orange Order.
Another is pissing upon the nearest lamp post..................
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| User: "Dr Tam" |
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06 Apr 2005 01:55:36 PM |
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"Madra Dubh" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Duck" <duckkayak@'microsoftsemailservice'.com> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
*Has Earth informed God he's a Catholic yet, do the chosen people
know?
Does the phrase 'a la orange' mean anything to you?
And this, dear people, is one of the secret signs of recognition used by
the
Orange Order.
Another is pissing upon the nearest lamp post..................
Hey - that's confusing - I do that when I'm pissed but that doesn't make me
an Orangeman.Orangemen use
phone-boxes - they are more private.
Dr Tam
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| User: "Madra Dubh" |
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06 Apr 2005 03:34:20 PM |
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"Dr Tam" <ProfTam@yahoo.co.nz> wrote in message
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"Madra Dubh" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
*Has Earth informed God he's a Catholic yet, do the chosen people
know?
Does the phrase 'a la orange' mean anything to you?
And this, dear people, is one of the secret signs of recognition used by
the
Orange Order.
Another is pissing upon the nearest lamp post..................
Hey - that's confusing - I do that when I'm pissed but that doesn't make
me
an Orangeman.Orangemen use
phone-boxes - they are more private.
Actually urinating upon lamp posts is more of a Jackeen thingy.
Which is why, on dark nights, Loos rise from the streets.
Then they return, unused.
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| User: "Jos Flachs no x, please" |
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06 Apr 2005 04:36:43 AM |
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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 19:56:57 +1200, "Adam Whyte-Settlar"
<grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Duck" <duckkayak@'microsoftsemailservice'.com> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
*Has Earth informed God he's a Catholic yet, do the chosen people
know?
Does the phrase 'a la orange' mean anything to you?
It certainly does. But I rather work with mango sauce.
Auberge d'EAC
** menu du jour **
[Holy] Pigeon Coated with Mango Sauce - a divine dish!
Votre chef:# aa 1987.
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| User: "Madra Dubh" |
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05 Apr 2005 07:57:05 AM |
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all. Heaven knows we
have spilled so much blood over this issue in the past and still the
buggers keep producing Popes!
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
If every Muslim, Hindu and followers of all the other false faiths have to
die to achieve it then it is a price worth paying.
Odd.
I've heard the same message from the Ayatollahs.
It must be true then that all faiths have something in common......
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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06 Apr 2005 02:51:57 AM |
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"Madra Dubh" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all. Heaven knows we
have spilled so much blood over this issue in the past and still the
buggers keep producing Popes!
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
If every Muslim, Hindu and followers of all the other false faiths have
to
die to achieve it then it is a price worth paying.
Odd.
I've heard the same message from the Ayatollahs.
Yeah - but we thought of it first.
A W-S
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| User: "Madra Dubh" |
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06 Apr 2005 06:56:56 AM |
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"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Madra Dubh" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all. Heaven knows we
have spilled so much blood over this issue in the past and still the
buggers keep producing Popes!
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
If every Muslim, Hindu and followers of all the other false faiths have
to
die to achieve it then it is a price worth paying.
Odd.
I've heard the same message from the Ayatollahs.
Yeah - but we thought of it first.
Taking undue credit, I must say,
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| User: "westprog" |
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10 Apr 2005 04:55:40 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the blood
spilling will end.
See Soviet Union for real world example.
J/
SOTW: "God's Footballer" - Billy Bragg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~albedo1/
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| User: "westprog" |
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17 Apr 2005 04:11:52 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic
principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the
blood
spilling will end.
See Soviet Union for real world example.
........or maybe the Spanish inquisition, or the Crusades.
Maybe, but not in the twentieth century.
Ever heard of the russian in charge of all the Soviet missiles during the
cold
war. he got a red alert on his panel suggesting that american missiles
had
been launched against his country. but he did not beleive the information
was
correct, so before pressing his 'fire' button he made some checks
discovering
that his 'hunch' was right and so averted a nuclear war.
If the roles had been reversed? ----- I shudder to think about it.
Do you really think that there have been no red alerts in the USA in the
last fifty years? Do you really think that what saved the world was the lack
of religious faith of a Russian missile technician?
This man, apparently, lives in obscurity in a small government flat,
virtually
unhead of today, the story was on a BBC TV programme.
I am not aware of any country going to war in the name of atheism.
No - atheism is a non-belief system. When the Chinese invaded Tibet, it was
in the name of brotherhood and justice and socialism. When the French cut
women into pieces using a mechanical slicing device, it was in the name of
Liberty, Equality and Fraternity.
Historically
we find scores of religious wars. Religions are used by rulers to bolster
their power. It has alays been that way, always will. It is there to be
used.
China today [90% non beleivers] do not need that 'facility' [sic] and
could not
care less about having it
The 10% will just have to sit down and shut up then?
J/
SOTW: "God's Footballer" - Billy Bragg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~albedo1/
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| User: "Féachadóir" |
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10 Apr 2005 07:28:59 PM |
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Scríobh "westprog" <westprog@hotmail.com>:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the blood
spilling will end.
See Soviet Union for real world example.
Alternatively, see Thomas Paine
--
'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir
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| User: "westprog" |
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11 Apr 2005 06:54:39 AM |
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"Féachadóir" <Féach@d.óir> wrote in message
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Scríobh "westprog" <westprog@hotmail.com>:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4254C144.F233537F@netvigator.com...
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When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic
principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the
blood
spilling will end.
See Soviet Union for real world example.
Alternatively, see Thomas Paine
Deputy Thomas Paine would have been guillotined had a chalk mark on his cell
door not been misplaced. Paine found out that Liberty, Equality and
Fraternity has its limits.
J/
SOTW: "God's Footballer" - Billy Bragg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~albedo1/
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| User: "Féachadóir" |
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11 Apr 2005 08:21:59 AM |
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Scríobh "westprog" <westprog@hotmail.com>:
"Féachadóir" <Féach@d.óir> wrote in message
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Scríobh "westprog" <westprog@hotmail.com>:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4254C144.F233537F@netvigator.com...
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When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic
principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the
blood
spilling will end.
See Soviet Union for real world example.
Alternatively, see Thomas Paine
Deputy Thomas Paine would have been guillotined had a chalk mark on his cell
door not been misplaced. Paine found out that Liberty, Equality and
Fraternity has its limits.
"I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition," a relieved Mr Paine said
later.
--
'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir
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| User: "bob young" |
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16 Apr 2005 09:04:48 PM |
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"Féachadóir" wrote:
Scríobh "westprog" <westprog@hotmail.com>:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4254C144.F233537F@netvigator.com...
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When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the blood
spilling will end.
See Soviet Union for real world example.
The Communists dreamed of equality for all.
Human beings being what they are, greedy an all, it failed to work.
....absolutely NOTHING to do with religions.
The commies were against religions as they saw them as a threat to their dream
of equality for all.
Alternatively, see Thomas Paine
--
'Donegal: Up Here It's Different'
© Féachadóir
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| User: "westprog" |
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19 Apr 2005 08:22:50 AM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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"Féachadóir" wrote:
Scríobh "westprog" <westprog@hotmail.com>:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4254C144.F233537F@netvigator.com...
...
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic
principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the
blood
spilling will end.
See Soviet Union for real world example.
The Communists dreamed of equality for all.
Human beings being what they are, greedy an all, it failed to work.
...absolutely NOTHING to do with religions.
The commies were against religions as they saw them as a threat to their
dream
of equality for all.
Yes, they had one basic principle of common decency to all men without the
use of imaginary gods. Which led to many millions being killed. Maybe the
problem is human nature, rather than the big theories.
J/
SOTW: "God's Footballer" - Billy Bragg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~albedo1/
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| User: "wcb" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
17 Apr 2005 08:02:32 PM |
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bob young wrote:
westprog wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic
principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the
blood spilling will end.
See Soviet Union for real world example.
........or maybe the Spanish inquisition, or the Crusades.
Ever heard of the russian in charge of all the Soviet missiles during the
cold
war. he got a red alert on his panel suggesting that american missiles
had
been launched against his country. but he did not beleive the information
was correct, so before pressing his 'fire' button he made some checks
discovering that his 'hunch' was right and so averted a nuclear war.
If the roles had been reversed? ----- I shudder to think about it.
This man, apparently, lives in obscurity in a small government flat,
virtually unhead of today, the story was on a BBC TV programme.
I am not aware of any country going to war in the name of atheism.
Historically
we find scores of religious wars. Religions are used by rulers to bolster
their power. It has alays been that way, always will. It is there to be
used. China today [90% non beleivers] do not need that 'facility' [sic]
and could not care less about having it
We don't have to look far to see good American christians supporting
genocide an mass murder, and not some distant long ago history
either.***********************************************************
The Failure of Christianity in America
W. C . Barwell 3-8-05
***********************************************************
Since Nixon, this nation has rapidly moved to the far right,
taken there mainly by christian right wingers who have fully
supported the GOP as it has moved right to gain support of
christian zealots and conservatives. This started when Nixon
played the racist Southern Strategy card building on civil
rights era resentments by far right Southerners.
So we now have had a essentially a christian GOP government
for 30 years.
Under Nixon:
Christian Americans supported incompetent and corrupt
Vietnamese politicians. And a senseless war in Vietnam
that accomplished nothing.
Nixon lied about having a secret plan to end the war.
supported nixons having instigated awful and murderous
policies as the Phoenix program.
Supported the secret bombings in Cambodia that killed
hundreds of thousands of innocent Cambodians.
Winked at the invasion of East Timur and parts of New
Guinea by our allies, the Indonesions.
The Indonesioans killed 1/4 of the Timurese over several
decades, mass murder, genocide. 2 million dead.
Winked at the Greek far right Junta that overthrew the
Greek government.
Supported the murderous far right Brazilian generals who
overthrew that democratically elected government.
Supported the mass murdering Argentinian government and
their terroristic "Dirty War" of torture, mass murder
and disappearances.
Supported the murderous Pinochet of Chile and overthrow
of yet another democratically elected goverment.
No Christians respected life here. Or freedom. But supported
Nixon heartily despite the horrors we commited in Vietnam
and Cambodia and Chile and winked at support for others
mentioned above.
Reagan.
Reagan lead the GOP in support for military aid to the
genocidal Rios Montt of Guatemala, who practiced wholesale
torture, rape and genocide on the Mayan Indians of Guatemala.
Reagan and the GOP supported the mass murdering ex-Somoza
Guards of Nicaragua.
Reagan and the GOP supported Saddam Hussein of Iraq.
Reagan and the GOP supported the murderous Robert
D'Aubisson of El Salavador, a known far right death
squad leader.
The El Salvadoran government was involved in numerous
murders, and massacres, such as the killing of 400
villagers at a small village called El Mezote, most
of them young women and children.
Reagan and the GOP supported Noriega of Panama.
Reagan and the GOP happily supported Pol Pot's claim
to be the rightful government of Cambodia despite the
genocide committed by the insane Pol Pot's Khmer Regime.
Reagan and the GOP supported a number of murdering
far right extremist guerrilla movements in Africa
including the genocidal Frelimo in Mozambique.
Reagan fought sanctions to end apartheid in South africa.
The Christian and religous right heavily supported Reagan
and the GOP despite numerous examples of such evils as
listed above.The leader of the religous right never cared
nor complained, neither did the religous leaders of the
main stream christian denominations.
There was and is no respect for life in American
christianity as these wholesale and repeat failures of
America christianity collectively over 20 years shows.
Then we had Bush.
Bush continued support for the evil dictators above,
including Pinochet, Pol Pot and others. However,
Saddam screwed us and invaded Iraq, mainly because
Bush screwed up and did not warn him to not do so.
Bush did not act in case of genocide my Jugoslavia's
Milosevic, and Bush and the GOP's loud and obnoxious
footdragging here allowed Milosevic to kill
hundreds of thousands with near impunity.
The leaders of the GOP, House and Senate, and religous
leaders of the right and mainstream denominations never
cared about any of this.
In the Desert Storm war, Bush allowed the US air
force to bomb Iraq's water and sewer systems.
A war crime.
They placed sanctions on Iraq that made it impossible
to keep their water supplies safe resulting in numerous
deaths that eventually would total over 2 million dead
Iraqi civilians, mostly children.
Our government coldly calculated that these sanctions would
indeed would cause mass epidemics and mass death, and did
it anyway.
Thomas Nagy, a California colege professor used the FOIA
statutes to obtain these documents that were published
in September 2001 in the Progressive Magazine.
http://www.progressive.org/0801issue/nagy0901.html
No Christian leaders of either far right or mainstream
cared nor brought Bush and the GOP leadership of House
and Senate to task for this genocide of innocents.
Clinton:
Under Clinton this policy continued. Again, Christians did
not care. All Christians cared about was Clintons
don't-ask-don't-tell gays in military policy and Clinton's
sex life and Whitewater.
$47 million spent investigating whitewater while the Christian
right roared with naked hate. Money spent investigation mass
murder in Iraq caused by our purposeful by our sanctions?
$0.
Roars of disaprovable from Christian America over these mass
murders?
None.
What has 30 years or right winged GOP government and right
winger christianity got us? Mass murder, genocide,
Nothing but callousness, disregard for human life,
mass moral failure of religion, Christianity and
the american right.
Not once did religous christian Americans, either
leadership or rank and file ever find any of these
evils unacceptable or punish any who supported any
of this.
Most GOP House and Senate members were people who
did these things claimed to be christians. Not a one
cares, not a christian cares they did not care or act.
30 years of failure. 30 years of support for
far right genocidal bastards, mass murderers,
and evil.
Total christian failure.
Total lack of any real morality at all
in American christianity.
Christians posture as moral, American christians have
a very bad track records when it comes to morality, they
will happily support any genocdial monster as long as he's
a right winger, and right winger politicians support
that monster no matter how murderous or genocidal he
and his evil regime is.
(End)
--
When I shake my killfile, I can hear them buzzing!
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Mhtsos" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
10 Apr 2005 05:07:54 PM |
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westprog wrote:
"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
news:4254C144.F233537F@netvigator.com...
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When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic principle
of
common decency to all men without the use of imaginary gods then the blood
Where are sheep there will be wolves there will be grass there will be man.
When there are no wolf's man will be the wolf.
spilling will end.
Without dogma or doctrine.
Agree.
" What I think is right so reality must be wrong ".
See Soviet Union for real world example.
J/
SOTW: "God's Footballer" - Billy Bragg
http://homepage.eircom.net/~albedo1/
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| User: "Jackie Mulheron" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
11 Apr 2005 02:53:25 PM |
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"bob young" <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote in message
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Madra Dubh wrote:
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42527e15@clear.net.nz...
"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:264c4ea4.0504031206.78f9c25e@posting.google.com...
The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all. Heaven knows we
have spilled so much blood over this issue in the past and still the
buggers keep producing Popes!
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
If every Muslim, Hindu and followers of all the other false faiths have
to
die to achieve it then it is a price worth paying.
Odd.
I've heard the same message from the Ayatollahs.
It must be true then that all faiths have something in common......
Yes "Our god is real yours is false" primitive simple stuff
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one basic principle
of
common decency to all men ....
Which is Catholicism...
without the use of imaginary gods then the blood spilling will end.
It shouldn't need to be said but they started it.
As for dreaming that YOUR religion will be adopted universally is about as
sensible as claiming that your god is real and all the others are false.
You may regret that when you have to explain it to God.
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| User: "Michilín" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
05 Apr 2005 03:00:48 PM |
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On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:57:05 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
<ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42527e15@clear.net.nz...
"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:264c4ea4.0504031206.78f9c25e@posting.google.com...
The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all. Heaven knows we
have spilled so much blood over this issue in the past and still the
buggers keep producing Popes!
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
If every Muslim, Hindu and followers of all the other false faiths have to
die to achieve it then it is a price worth paying.
Odd.
I've heard the same message from the Ayatollahs.
It must be true then that all faiths have something in common......
Not necessarily, but all groups have an Adam Whyte-Settlar in common.
Michilín
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| User: "Madra Dubh" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
05 Apr 2005 04:42:06 PM |
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"Michilín" <micheil@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:4252ee35.17285975@news...
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 12:57:05 GMT, "Madra Dubh"
<ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
"Adam Whyte-Settlar" <grawillers@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42527e15@clear.net.nz...
"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:264c4ea4.0504031206.78f9c25e@posting.google.com...
The recent death of Pope John Paul II has according to the media
started the search for a Pope for the modern age. May I suggest that
the best Pope for the modern age be no Pope at all. Heaven knows we
have spilled so much blood over this issue in the past and still the
buggers keep producing Popes!
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
If every Muslim, Hindu and followers of all the other false faiths have
to
die to achieve it then it is a price worth paying.
Odd.
I've heard the same message from the Ayatollahs.
It must be true then that all faiths have something in common......
Not necessarily, but all groups have an Adam Whyte-Settlar in common.
Wasn't he the thirteenth plague to visit Egypt?
(It's only found listed in the apocryphal writings)
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| User: "Adam Whyte-Settlar" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
06 Apr 2005 02:53:51 AM |
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"Madra Dubh" <ccaine@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:OCD4e.45786$cg1.8575@bgtnsc04-.
When every single person on earth finally accepts the one true faith
of
Catholisism then the blood spilling will end.
If every Muslim, Hindu and followers of all the other false faiths
have
to
die to achieve it then it is a price worth paying.
Odd.
I've heard the same message from the Ayatollahs.
It must be true then that all faiths have something in common......
Not necessarily, but all groups have an Adam Whyte-Settlar in common.
Wasn't he the thirteenth plague to visit Egypt?
I say - steady on old chap. It was only a package trip.
A W-S
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| User: "Clydeside Red" |
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| Title: Re: Time for an end to Popery |
03 Apr 2005 08:54:56 PM |
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"Love a Sheep" <sheepshaggerx@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:264c4ea4.0504031206.78f9c25e@posting.google.com...
Just in case you are thinking I am yet another Orange ***** - think
again.
Wasn't it you who posted codes to get a ringtone of "The Sash" about a week
and a half ago?
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