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"IKnowHimDoYou" |
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07 Apr 2004 11:07:50 AM |
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To Believe Or Not to Believe |
To Believe Or Not to Believe
Each person struggles with finding truth. Each person brings their own
bias and prejudices to this struggle as they search for what is true
versus what is false. The search is not IF we have faith(trust) in
somthing or someone for we ALL have faith in something or someone For
example:
The Christian believes in the Bible and what it says concerning his
relaionship with God through the Lord Jesus Christ. He knows that there is
no scientific proof of God's existance, only legal, historical and
biographical evidence exists.
The atheist believes there is no God but he too has no scientific proof to
confirm or disprove that. He simply takes it on faith believing it to be
so without any proof or evidence.
The rules of logic tell us that two opposite claims cannot both be true;
if one is truth than the other must be false. If there is no God as the
atheists believes but cannot prove then he is operating on faith or trust
in this hypothsis. If God is then his faith is in vain(empty) and he has
nowhere to place his faith so he is in error. His behaviour is determined
by what he thinks is right although he never really knows what the rigtht
is so he is left to his own devices.
The Christian believes what God says and that He exists and desires to
have a relationship with man sending His only begotten Son to earth to
secure the path of that relationship. The Christian uses, along with the
Bible, historical and biographical evidence for God's presence along with
the seen and experiential effects on men in this world such as changed
lives, self sacrifice for others, a love of all men, a quickening of
conscience, a radical difference in thinking and behaving among other
changes.
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
14 Apr 2004 08:53:30 AM |
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(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote in message news:<IKnowHim-0704040907500001@pm8-48.kalama.com>...
To Believe Or Not to Believe
Each person struggles with finding truth. Each person brings their own
bias and prejudices to this struggle as they search for what is true
versus what is false. The search is not IF we have faith(trust) in
somthing or someone for we ALL have faith in something or someone For
example:
The Christian believes in the Bible and what it says concerning his
relaionship with God through the Lord Jesus Christ. He knows that there is
no scientific proof of God's existance, only legal, historical and
biographical evidence exists.
The atheist believes there is no God but he too has no scientific proof to
confirm or disprove that. He simply takes it on faith believing it to be
so without any proof or evidence.
The rules of logic tell us that two opposite claims cannot both be true;
if one is truth than the other must be false. If there is no God as the
atheists believes but cannot prove then he is operating on faith or trust
in this hypothsis. If God is then his faith is in vain(empty) and he has
nowhere to place his faith so he is in error. His behaviour is determined
by what he thinks is right although he never really knows what the rigtht
is so he is left to his own devices.
The Christian believes what God says and that He exists and desires to
have a relationship with man sending His only begotten Son to earth to
secure the path of that relationship. The Christian uses, along with the
Does the word relationship exist in the Bible?
God hates polytheism and idols worship; so through Christ he gives nations
a chance to mend their way of life and eradicate idols worship in their
cultures and by doing so they will bring about a better civilization and
a better environment to prepare for their afterlife. This has been so
since the beginning until you foolish protestants came along and start
talking relationship and questioning our LADY VIRGINITY
But your impious teaching shall be exposed
Bible, historical and biographical evidence for God's presence along with
the seen and experiential effects on men in this world such as changed
lives, self sacrifice for others, a love of all men, a quickening of
conscience, a radical difference in thinking and behaving among other
changes.
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| User: "Gomez Addams" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
14 Apr 2004 09:50:05 AM |
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"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
God hates polytheism and idols worship; so through Christ he gives
nations
a chance to mend their way of life and eradicate idols worship
Then He'd better get crackin in those Roman Catholic countries cuz there
is a whole lotta shakin goin on. Stop kissing the feet of statues and bowing
down before them and praying.
in their
cultures and by doing so they will bring about a better civilization and
a better environment to prepare for their afterlife. This has been so
since the beginning until you foolish protestants came along and start
talking relationship and questioning our LADY VIRGINITY
I dunno who your "LADY VIRGINITY" is, but I'll assume from the foam in
your mouth that you're a Romanist. Looks like she must have had more than
one virgin birth, because the Bible CLEARLY teaches that He had brothers:
Matt 12:46 ¶ While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His mother
and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him.
Matt 12:47 Someone said to Him, "Behold, Your mother and Your brothers are
standing outside seeking to speak to You."
Matt 12:48 But Jesus answered the one who was telling Him and said, "Who is
My mother and who are My brothers?"
Matt 12:49 And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said,
"Behold My mother and My brothers!
Matt 13:55 "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary,
and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?
John 2:12 ¶ After this He went down to Capernaum, He and His mother and
{His} brothers and His disciples; and they stayed there a few days.
John 7:3 Therefore His brothers said to Him, "Leave here and go into Judea,
so that Your disciples also may see Your works which You are doing.
John 7:5 For not even His brothers were believing in Him.
John 7:10 ¶ But when His brothers had gone up to the feast, then He Himself
also went up, not publicly, but as if, in secret.
Acts 1:14 These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to
prayer, along with {the} women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His
brothers.
Guess what? He had sisters too!!! The Greek meaning of the precise word
means at least three or more:
Matt 13:56 "And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then {did} this
man {get} all these things?"
Mark 6:3 "Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James
and Joses and Judas and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?" And they
took offense at Him.
Also, Luke records that He didn't make a great big hairy deal out of
Mary like you Romanist goddess worshippers:
Luke 8:19 ¶ And His mother and brothers came to Him, and they were unable to
get to Him because of the crowd.
Luke 8:20 And it was reported to Him, "Your mother and Your brothers are
standing outside, wishing to see You."
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, "My mother and My brothers are
these who hear the word of God and do it."
But your impious teaching shall be exposed
Well, I've just exposed YOURS! If you don't like what the Bible says,
take it up with the One who wrote it. I'll give you a hint; um, one
syllable, errrr, three letters, sounds like POD.
--
Gomez Addams
"Deus de me cogitat ergo sum."
God thinks about me, therefore I am.
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| User: "DOC" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
14 Apr 2004 06:23:48 PM |
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In article <xccfc.6992$zj3.2413@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,=20
not@good.address sez in this lil' ole news'froup...!
"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
God hates polytheism and idols worship; so through Christ he gives
nations
a chance to mend their way of life and eradicate idols worship
Then He'd better get crackin in those Roman Catholic countries cuz th=
ere
is a whole lotta shakin goin on. Stop kissing the feet of statues and bow=
ing
down before them and praying.
=20
in their
cultures and by doing so they will bring about a better civilization a=
nd
a better environment to prepare for their afterlife. This has been so
since the beginning until you foolish protestants came along and start
talking relationship and questioning our LADY VIRGINITY
I dunno who your "LADY VIRGINITY" is, but I'll assume from the foam i=
n
your mouth that you're a Romanist. Looks like she must have had more tha=
n
one virgin birth, because the Bible CLEARLY teaches that He had brothers:
Matt 12:46 =B6 While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His m=
other
and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him.
=20
Matt 12:47 Someone said to Him, "Behold, Your mother and Your brothers ar=
e
standing outside seeking to speak to You."
=20
Matt 12:48 But Jesus answered the one who was telling Him and said, "Who =
is
My mother and who are My brothers?"
=20
Matt 12:49 And stretching out His hand toward His disciples, He said,
"Behold My mother and My brothers!
=20
Matt 13:55 "Is not this the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mar=
y,
and His brothers, James and Joseph and Simon and Judas?
=20
John 2:12 =B6 After this He went down to Capernaum, He and His mother and
{His} brothers and His disciples; and they stayed there a few days.
=20
John 7:3 Therefore His brothers said to Him, "Leave here and go into Jude=
a,
so that Your disciples also may see Your works which You are doing.
=20
John 7:5 For not even His brothers were believing in Him.
=20
John 7:10 =B6 But when His brothers had gone up to the feast, then He Him=
self
also went up, not publicly, but as if, in secret.
=20
Acts 1:14 These all with one mind were continually devoting themselves to
prayer, along with {the} women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with Hi=
s
brothers.
=20
Guess what? He had sisters too!!! The Greek meaning of the precise wo=
rd
means at least three or more:
Matt 13:56 "And His sisters, are they not all with us? Where then {did} t=
his
man {get} all these things?"
=20
Mark 6:3 "Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of Jame=
s
and Joses and Judas and Simon? Are not His sisters here with us?" And the=
y
took offense at Him.
=20
Also, Luke records that He didn't make a great big hairy deal out of
Mary like you Romanist goddess worshippers:
Luke 8:19 =B6 And His mother and brothers came to Him, and they were unab=
le to
get to Him because of the crowd.
=20
Luke 8:20 And it was reported to Him, "Your mother and Your brothers are
standing outside, wishing to see You."
=20
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, "My mother and My brothers ar=
e
these who hear the word of God and do it."
=20
But your impious teaching shall be exposed
=20
Well, I've just exposed YOURS! If you don't like what the Bible says,
take it up with the One who wrote it. I'll give you a hint; um, one
syllable, errrr, three letters, sounds like POD.
--
Gomez Addams
"Deus de me cogitat ergo sum."
God thinks about me, therefore I am.
=20
=20
How very true, Gomez......
=20
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| User: "Gomez Addams" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
14 Apr 2004 08:03:03 PM |
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"DOC" <DOC@idunno.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ae783fc17c31c5e98a195@corp.supernews.com...
In article <xccfc.6992$zj3.2413@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
not@good.address sez in this lil' ole news'froup...!
"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
God hates polytheism and idols worship; so through Christ he gives
nations
a chance to mend their way of life and eradicate idols worship
Then He'd better get crackin in those Roman Catholic countries cuz
there
is a whole lotta shakin goin on. Stop kissing the feet of statues and
bowing
down before them and praying.
in their
cultures and by doing so they will bring about a better civilization
and
a better environment to prepare for their afterlife. This has been so
since the beginning until you foolish protestants came along and start
talking relationship and questioning our LADY VIRGINITY
I dunno who your "LADY VIRGINITY" is, but I'll assume from the foam in
your mouth that you're a Romanist. Looks like she must have had more than
one virgin birth, because the Bible CLEARLY teaches that He had brothers:
Matt 12:46 ¶ While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His
mother
and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him.
snip about 15 Bible passages proving Mary was a normal decent obedient
wife and mother
But your impious teaching shall be exposed
Well, I've just exposed YOURS! If you don't like what the Bible says,
take it up with the One who wrote it. I'll give you a hint; um, one
syllable, errrr, three letters, sounds like POD.
--
Gomez Addams
"Deus de me cogitat ergo sum."
God thinks about me, therefore I am.
How very true, Gomez......
We're playing Bible Charades, Doc! THEY make a charade of knowing the
Bible and believeing it, while I let them guess the answers to their
blasphemous questions and statements!
Ain't life grand!?
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| User: "DOC" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
15 Apr 2004 09:21:58 AM |
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In article <bblfc.8492$zj3.1874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,=20
not@good.address sez in this lil' ole news'froup...!
=20
"DOC" <DOC@idunno.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1ae783fc17c31c5e98a195@corp.supernews.com...
In article <xccfc.6992$zj3.2413@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
not@good.address sez in this lil' ole news'froup...!
"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
God hates polytheism and idols worship; so through Christ he gives
nations
a chance to mend their way of life and eradicate idols worship
Then He'd better get crackin in those Roman Catholic countries cuz
there
is a whole lotta shakin goin on. Stop kissing the feet of statues and
bowing
down before them and praying.
in their
cultures and by doing so they will bring about a better civilization
and
a better environment to prepare for their afterlife. This has been s=
o
since the beginning until you foolish protestants came along and sta=
rt
talking relationship and questioning our LADY VIRGINITY
I dunno who your "LADY VIRGINITY" is, but I'll assume from the foam=
in
your mouth that you're a Romanist. Looks like she must have had more t=
han
one virgin birth, because the Bible CLEARLY teaches that He had brother=
s:
Matt 12:46 =B6 While He was still speaking to the crowds, behold, His
mother
and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to Him.
snip about 15 Bible passages proving Mary was a normal decent obedien=
t
wife and mother
But your impious teaching shall be exposed
Well, I've just exposed YOURS! If you don't like what the Bible say=
s,
take it up with the One who wrote it. I'll give you a hint; um, one
syllable, errrr, three letters, sounds like POD.
--
Gomez Addams
"Deus de me cogitat ergo sum."
God thinks about me, therefore I am.
How very true, Gomez......
We're playing Bible Charades, Doc! THEY make a charade of knowing the
Bible and believeing it, while I let them guess the answers to their
blasphemous questions and statements!
Ain't life grand!?
=20
=20
for some, I guess
=20
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
15 Apr 2004 05:07:18 PM |
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On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:50:05 +0000 in episode
<xccfc.6992$zj3.2413@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> we saw our hero
"Gomez Addams" <not@good.address>:
"Not-easily-duped" <Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote
God hates polytheism and idols worship; so through Christ he gives
nations
a chance to mend their way of life and eradicate idols worship
Then He'd better get crackin in those Roman Catholic countries cuz
there
is a whole lotta shakin goin on. Stop kissing the feet of statues and
bowing down before them and praying.
Christin fight! Christian fight! Christian fight!
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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16 Apr 2004 11:21:29 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <y@hoo.com-amikchi> wrote in message
God hates polytheism and idols worship; so through Christ he gives
nations
a chance to mend their way of life and eradicate idols worship
Then He'd better get crackin in those Roman Catholic countries cuz
there
is a whole lotta shakin goin on. Stop kissing the feet of statues and
bowing down before them and praying.
Maybe you don't know what idols worship means.
When I say idols worship, I am thinking of a time when Caesars were
worshipped as gods or son of god and temples were built to their glory,
I am thinking
of the whorship of Diana the goddess of the Ephesians, I am thinking of
sun worship and jupiter and apollo those false gods. I am also thinking
of what was going on in Arabia with Al huzza, Al Manath...
Anything centered on Jesus and his saints is hardly an idols worship.
You are a simpleton
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"Searching when you know nothing is like trying to mixe concrete from
scratch when you don't even know what concrete is made of nor scratch."
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
16 Apr 2004 11:11:26 PM |
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On 16 Apr 2004 09:21:29 -0700, (dopey)
wrote:
Maybe you don't know what idols worship means.
Worshipping anything else than you do, Dopey?
When I say idols worship, I am thinking of a time when Caesars were
You think? Did it hurt?
worshipped as gods or son of god and temples were built to their glory,
Like the temples dedicated to the xtian gods?
I am thinking
of the whorship of Diana the goddess of the Ephesians, I am thinking of
sun worship and jupiter and apollo those false gods. I am also thinking
of what was going on in Arabia with Al huzza, Al Manath...
Anything centered on Jesus and his saints is hardly an idols worship.
Hardly? Even when I was a devout catholic I felt very much embarrassed
by the idol worship of the saints. And the swollen highly insincere
lingo I had to utter to lick it up with your god.
You are a simpleton
Yes, you certainly are, Dopey.
Dopey, maybe you can enlighten me? Why do you fundies need to share
your imbecilities with so many news groups?
alt.talk.creationism,alt.religion.christian.baptist,
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.religion.christianity,alt.atheism
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| User: "Not-easily-duped" |
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24 Apr 2004 03:36:48 PM |
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Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<7i1180hrst8n4dcgjebdhfh4dkn1tnl1jp@4ax.com>...
On 16 Apr 2004 09:21:29 -0700, (dopey)
wrote:
Maybe you don't know what idols worship means.
Worshipping anything else than you do, Dopey?
When I say idols worship, I am thinking of a time when Caesars were
You think? Did it hurt?
worshipped as gods or son of god and temples were built to their glory,
Like the temples dedicated to the xtian gods?
I am thinking
of the whorship of Diana the goddess of the Ephesians, I am thinking of
sun worship and jupiter and apollo those false gods. I am also thinking
of what was going on in Arabia with Al huzza, Al Manath...
Anything centered on Jesus and his saints is hardly an idols worship.
Hardly? Even when I was a devout catholic I felt very much embarrassed
by the idol worship of the saints. And the swollen highly insincere
lingo I had to utter to lick it up with your god.
Where did you get the idea that I was a catholic?
You are a simpleton
Yes, you certainly are, Dopey.
Dopey, maybe you can enlighten me? Why do you fundies need to share
your imbecilities with so many news groups?
alt.talk.creationism,alt.religion.christian.baptist,
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.religion.christianity,alt.atheism
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
25 Apr 2004 04:44:40 AM |
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On 24 Apr 2004 13:36:48 -0700, (Not-easily-duped)
wrote:
Jos Flachs <'wcruise'@ksc15.th.com> wrote in message news:<7i1180hrst8n4dcgjebdhfh4dkn1tnl1jp@4ax.com>...
On 16 Apr 2004 09:21:29 -0700, (dopey)
wrote:
Maybe you don't know what idols worship means.
Worshipping anything else than you do, Dopey?
When I say idols worship, I am thinking of a time when Caesars were
You think? Did it hurt?
worshipped as gods or son of god and temples were built to their glory,
Like the temples dedicated to the xtian gods?
I am thinking
of the whorship of Diana the goddess of the Ephesians, I am thinking of
sun worship and jupiter and apollo those false gods. I am also thinking
of what was going on in Arabia with Al huzza, Al Manath...
Anything centered on Jesus and his saints is hardly an idols worship.
Hardly? Even when I was a devout catholic I felt very much embarrassed
by the idol worship of the saints. And the swollen highly insincere
lingo I had to utter to lick it up with your god.
Where did you get the idea that I was a catholic?
Where do you read that, Dopey? In your bible? You sure as hell did not
read it in my posting.
You are a simpleton
Yes, you certainly are, Dopey.
Dopey, maybe you can enlighten me? Why do you fundies need to share
your imbecilities with so many news groups?
alt.talk.creationism,alt.religion.christian.baptist,
alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic,alt.religion.christian.biblestudy,
alt.religion.christianity,alt.atheism
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| User: "Thore Schmechtig" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
07 Apr 2004 03:40:03 PM |
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The Christian uses, along with the
Bible,
NONEXISTENT
historical and biographical evidence for God's presence along with
the seen and experiential effects on men in this world such as changed
lives, self sacrifice for others, a love of all men, a quickening of
conscience, a radical difference in thinking and behaving among other
changes.
12 - 9 = ?
--
TOP TEN SIGNS YOU'RE A (CHRISTIAN) FUNDAMENTALIST
(found on www.evilbible.com)
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of
gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when
someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists
say that people evolved from other life forms, but you
have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were
created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem
believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the
"atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even
flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all
the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the
elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" --
including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and
Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have
no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated
Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little
loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth
(4.55 billion years), but you find nothing wrong with
believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting
in their tents and guessing that Earth is a couple of
generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet
with the exception of those who share your beliefs --
though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend
Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and
physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot
rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be
all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it
comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be
evidence that prayer works. And you think that the
remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and
agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church
history - but still call yourself a Christian.
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| User: "Silver Blaze" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
07 Apr 2004 03:41:52 PM |
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In article <IKnowHim-0704040907500001@pm8-48.kalama.com>,
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
The Christian believes what God says and that He exists and desires to
have a relationship with man sending His only begotten Son to earth to
secure the path of that relationship. The Christian uses, along with the
Bible, historical and biographical evidence for God's presence along with
the seen and experiential effects on men in this world such as changed
lives, self sacrifice for others, a love of all men, a quickening of
conscience, a radical difference in thinking and behaving among other
changes.
I see war and rumours of war
I see over 100 million victims of war and genocide in one century alone
A can work out quite easily what is right and what is wrong
And I can see that loyalty and belief when confused, make "belief" the
most dangerous thing there is
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
07 Apr 2004 05:09:49 PM |
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On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:07:50 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
The Christian believes in the Bible and what it says concerning his
relaionship with God through the Lord Jesus Christ. He knows that there is
no scientific proof of God's existance, only legal,
What "legal" evidence are you referring to? The Gospels would be
inadmissible as hearsay in a court of law.
historical
There are *no* contemporary historical accounts of Jesus. Nor are
there accounts of such claimed events as the Slaughter of the
Innocents, for that matter.
and
biographical evidence exists.
Which were written by unknown authors, generations after the purported
subject is supposed to have existed. Not a very solid foundation to
base one's case on.
The atheist believes there is no God but he too has no scientific proof to
confirm or disprove that. He simply takes it on faith believing it to be
so without any proof or evidence.
It is irrational to believe in the existence of something for which
there is no supporting evidence.
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| User: "YOELK" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
10 Apr 2004 03:36:37 AM |
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Posted on alt.atheism
Despite various attempts for rationalization, religious faith
is based on human fears and hopes:
the fear of lonliness, the fear of death and the fear of one from
oneself.
In Christianity, the fear of loneliness is answerd by the illusion
of relationship with gods, the fear of death is answered by the
promise
for life after death, and the fear from oneself is answered by the
hope
for a forgiving god.
But does it justify the religious faith? May everyone answer for
oneself,
as for me the answer is no.
As for truth , the search for truth cannot be ended bycertainity of
faith, since the truth seeker cannot and must not stop his doubts and
uncertainity.
Truth and certainity are not synonyms, one is objective and the other
is subjective.
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YOELK
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou) wrote in message news:<IKnowHim-0704040907500001@pm8-48.kalama.com>...
To Believe Or Not to Believe
Each person struggles with finding truth. Each person brings their own
bias and prejudices to this struggle as they search for what is true
versus what is false. The search is not IF we have faith(trust) in
somthing or someone for we ALL have faith in something or someone For
example:
The Christian believes in the Bible and what it says concerning his
relaionship with God through the Lord Jesus Christ. He knows that there is
no scientific proof of God's existance, only legal, historical and
biographical evidence exists.
The atheist believes there is no God but he too has no scientific proof to
confirm or disprove that. He simply takes it on faith believing it to be
so without any proof or evidence.
The rules of logic tell us that two opposite claims cannot both be true;
if one is truth than the other must be false. If there is no God as the
atheists believes but cannot prove then he is operating on faith or trust
in this hypothsis. If God is then his faith is in vain(empty) and he has
nowhere to place his faith so he is in error. His behaviour is determined
by what he thinks is right although he never really knows what the rigtht
is so he is left to his own devices.
The Christian believes what God says and that He exists and desires to
have a relationship with man sending His only begotten Son to earth to
secure the path of that relationship. The Christian uses, along with the
Bible, historical and biographical evidence for God's presence along with
the seen and experiential effects on men in this world such as changed
lives, self sacrifice for others, a love of all men, a quickening of
conscience, a radical difference in thinking and behaving among other
changes.
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