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"IKnowHimDoYou" |
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09 Apr 2004 10:50:55 AM |
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To Believe Or Not to Believe |
To Believe Or Not to Believe
Each person struggles with finding truth. Each person brings their own
bias and prejudices to this struggle as they search for what is true
versus what is false. The search is not IF we have faith(trust) in
somthing or someone for we ALL have faith in something or someone For
example:
The Christian believes in the Bible and what it says concerning his
relaionship with God through the Lord Jesus Christ. He knows that there is
no scientific proof of God's existance, only legal, historical and
biographical evidence exists.
The atheist believes there is no God but he too has no scientific proof to
confirm or disprove that. He simply takes it on faith believing it to be
so without any proof or evidence.
The rules of logic tell us that two opposite claims cannot both be true;
if one is truth than the other must be false. If there is no God as the
atheists believes but cannot prove then he is operating on faith or trust
in this hypothsis. If God is then his faith is in vain(empty) and he has
nowhere to place his faith so he is in error. His behaviour is determined
by what he thinks is right although he never really knows what the rigtht
is so he is left to his own devices.
The Christian believes what God says and that He exists and desires to
have a relationship with man sending His only begotten Son to earth to
secure the path of that relationship. The Christian uses, along with the
Bible, historical and biographical evidence for God's presence along with
the seen and experiential effects on men in this world such as changed
lives, self sacrifice for others, a love of all men, a quickening of
conscience, a radical difference in thinking and behaving among other
changes.
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| User: "Callipygian Nullifidian" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
09 Apr 2004 04:12:19 PM |
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"IDon'tKnowHimYouKnow" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IKnowNothing-0904040850550001@pm10-35.kalama.com...
[snip]
: The Christian believes in the Bible and what it says.... He knows
that there is
: no scientific proof of God's existance, only legal, historical and
: biographical evidence exists.
"legal, historical and biographical evidence"? Show it, or shut the
***** up.
: The rules of logic tell us...
You know nothing of logic. Even where you have some small
comprehension of the basics, you, by nature, CANNOT think logically.
: The Christian uses...a radical difference in thinking and behaving
among other
: changes.
It's really a damned shame, you know. If only you'd come out of that
vast sea of willful ignorance and dry out.
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| User: "William Klee" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
09 Apr 2004 03:37:37 PM |
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In article <IKnowHim-0904040850550001@pm10-35.kalama.com>,
IKnowHimDoYou <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote:
To Believe Or Not to Believe
Let's make that "To Prove or Not To Prove." Any time you're ready.
--
long N; long S;
if(posterID.equals("Robert B. Winn")){
N++; // N = number of Robert B. Winn Lies (tm)
S++; // S = number of Robert B. Winn Non-Sequitors (tm)
} // end if
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
09 Apr 2004 11:23:51 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:50:55 -0700 in episode
<IKnowHim-0904040850550001@pm10-35.kalama.com> we saw our hero
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou):
If there is no God as the
atheists believes but cannot prove then he is operating on faith or trust
in this hypothsis.
You obviously are clueless what atheism actually is.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
09 Apr 2004 04:24:01 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:50:55 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
To Believe Or Not to Believe
Each person struggles with finding truth. Each person brings their own
bias and prejudices to this struggle as they search for what is true
versus what is false. The search is not IF we have faith(trust) in
somthing or someone for we ALL have faith in something or someone For
example:
The Christian believes in the Bible and what it says concerning his
relaionship with God through the Lord Jesus Christ. He knows that there is
no scientific proof of God's existance, only legal, historical and
biographical evidence exists.
The atheist believes there is no God but he too has no scientific proof to
confirm or disprove that. He simply takes it on faith believing it to be
so without any proof or evidence.
The rules of logic tell us that two opposite claims cannot both be true;
if one is truth than the other must be false. If there is no God as the
atheists believes but cannot prove then he is operating on faith or trust
in this hypothsis. If God is then his faith is in vain(empty) and he has
nowhere to place his faith so he is in error. His behaviour is determined
by what he thinks is right although he never really knows what the rigtht
is so he is left to his own devices.
The Christian believes what God says and that He exists and desires to
have a relationship with man sending His only begotten Son to earth to
secure the path of that relationship. The Christian uses, along with the
Bible, historical and biographical evidence for God's presence along with
the seen and experiential effects on men in this world such as changed
lives, self sacrifice for others, a love of all men, a quickening of
conscience, a radical difference in thinking and behaving among other
changes.
Your statement about logic is true. But everything else in your post
is ***** that you cannot apply logic to.
Stop trying to associate logic with your whimsey.
And, remember, it is up to you to prove your point because it is you
making the assertion that God exists.
Stop shifting the burden of proof. The proof is up to you to provide.
You can't prove God exists, and I don't need to prove God doesn't
exist. I do not need to prove my point. You do need to prove your
point. And you can't.
Stop trying to slither around solid reality. You cannot do it, so
stop.
Logic anyone?
drift
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| User: "Gomez Addams" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
09 Apr 2004 06:00:36 PM |
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<drift@lost.net> wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you.
Did you expect less?
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| User: "Tiger" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
10 Apr 2004 12:56:49 PM |
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"Gomez Addams" <GomezzAddams@hotmail.com> wrote in news:oWFdc.2643
$zj3.115@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
<drift@lost.net> wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you.
Did you expect less?
Frauds often killfile those who can expose them.
--
Tiger
[Insert humorous, clever or profound quote here]
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| User: "" |
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10 Apr 2004 02:49:02 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:56:49 GMT, Tiger <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote:
"Gomez Addams" <GomezzAddams@hotmail.com> wrote in news:oWFdc.2643
$zj3.115@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
<drift@lost.net> wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you.
Did you expect less?
Frauds often killfile those who can expose them.
Is a killfile merely resident on the computer of the person who does
not want to read my posts? If so, OK.
As long as it doesn't prevent others from seeing my post, OK.
With my newsreader I can build a kill filter but I elect not to.
I want to see everything that is posted. To me, blocking out what I
don't agree with constitutes self inflicted ignorance.
Really, now.
drift
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| User: "Tiger" |
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10 Apr 2004 03:33:14 PM |
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wrote in news:u9jg70lpvqt33af8i27gokpltjka5utkna@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004 17:56:49 GMT, Tiger <Tiger@box.invalid> wrote:
"Gomez Addams" <GomezzAddams@hotmail.com> wrote in news:oWFdc.2643
$zj3.115@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net:
< > wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you.
Did you expect less?
Frauds often killfile those who can expose them.
Is a killfile merely resident on the computer of the person who does
not want to read my posts? If so, OK.
Yes.
As long as it doesn't prevent others from seeing my post, OK.
With my newsreader I can build a kill filter but I elect not to.
I want to see everything that is posted. To me, blocking out what I
don't agree with constitutes self inflicted ignorance.
Which is why the fraud, aka "Gomez Addams" chooses to killfile people.
Killfiles can also be useful for people who spam ng's and trolls.
--
Tiger
[Insert humorous, clever or profound quote here]
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
10 Apr 2004 03:46:45 PM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:00:36 +0000 in episode
<oWFdc.2643$zj3.115@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> we saw our hero
"Gomez Addams" <GomezzAddams@hotmail.com>:
<drift@lost.net> wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you. Did you expect less?
Hey, here's an idea...
Tell this "IKnowHim" idiot to stop spamming alt.atheism and dragging us
*INTO* the ngs you inhabit and you won't have to killfile so many people...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "" |
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10 Apr 2004 09:05:45 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:00:36 GMT, "Gomez Addams"
<GomezzAddams@hotmail.com> wrote:
<drift@lost.net> wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you.
Did you expect less?
Oh NOOOO Not that!! What am I going to do now!!
drift
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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11 Apr 2004 02:05:27 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:00:36 GMT, "Gomez Addams"
<GomezzAddams@hotmail.com> wrote:
<drift@lost.net> wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you.
Did you expect less?
Sheese Gomez (fake), you kill-file anyone who challenges you. Every
day you kill-file more and more people.
Logically, if you keep this up, soon you will have kill-filed
everyone.
When people see themselves as the "elect", they can easily conclude
that others are sinners. It is out of this sense of self righteousness
that true believers may feel chosen to do God's work. That's when
their will becomes God's will, their desires become God's desires,
their wars become God's wars.
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
11 Apr 2004 10:57:46 AM |
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In article <qdrh705pcb3tlt2oojsnga1bq4j6g5oej8@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:00:36 GMT, "Gomez Addams"
<GomezzAddams@hotmail.com> wrote:
<drift@lost.net> wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you.
Did you expect less?
Sheese Gomez (fake), you kill-file anyone who challenges you. Every
day you kill-file more and more people.
Logically, if you keep this up, soon you will have kill-filed
everyone.
When people see themselves as the "elect", they can easily conclude
that others are sinners. It is out of this sense of self righteousness
that true believers may feel chosen to do God's work. That's when
their will becomes God's will, their desires become God's desires,
their wars become God's wars.
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Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
11 Apr 2004 03:41:15 PM |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700 in episode
<IKnowHim-1104040857460001@pm3-42.kalama.com> we saw our hero
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou):
In article <qdrh705pcb3tlt2oojsnga1bq4j6g5oej8@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:00:36 GMT, "Gomez Addams"
<GomezzAddams@hotmail.com> wrote:
<drift@lost.net> wrote
Logic anyone?
Yes. Logically, I have decided to killfile you. Did you expect
less?
Sheese Gomez (fake), you kill-file anyone who challenges you. Every day
you kill-file more and more people.
Logically, if you keep this up, soon you will have kill-filed everyone.
When people see themselves as the "elect", they can easily conclude that
others are sinners. It is out of this sense of self righteousness that
true believers may feel chosen to do God's work. That's when their will
becomes God's will, their desires become God's desires, their wars
become God's wars.
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Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
Why would anybody listen to ***** like you?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
11 Apr 2004 11:57:14 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) in news message
<IKnowHim-1104040857460001@pm3-42.kalama.com> wrote:
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Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
You must be confused. "Complete surrender" does not equal "free".
This "gift" has quite a price tag on it. Considering that one needs
to die to receive this "gift", no evidence exists that one actually
can receive the "gift" for which one paid with complete surrender.
It's the ultimate con game.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Liz, you like most people do not want to have faith in
things which have no basis in reality. -- josalt
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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18 Apr 2004 12:20:35 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
"She's just one dog-faced-boy short of a freak-show."
- - anonymous
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| User: "Icono" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
18 Apr 2004 07:36:27 AM |
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"Don" < calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote in message
news:gs3480df64uctqd8kf9393g56qspao64a6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him
in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
How about?
I have no knowledge of why or how, but God has taken a peice of human waste
such as I to serve Him and follow Him. I don't deserve it and never will.
No matter what I do, I know within my heart that He is in control and I am a
pawn. I also know that every time I turn around I see His work.
Should I complain that it was not my free choice?
"She's just one dog-faced-boy short of a freak-show."
- - anonymous
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
18 Apr 2004 10:24:01 AM |
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"Icono" <iconoclst@home.com> wrote in message
news:fDugc.17893$Rz3.7081@fed1read05...
"Don" < calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote in message
news:gs3480df64uctqd8kf9393g56qspao64a6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him
in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation
with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
How about?
I have no knowledge of why or how, but God has taken a peice of human
waste
such as I to serve Him and follow Him. I don't deserve it and never will.
No matter what I do, I know within my heart that He is in control and I am
a
pawn. I also know that every time I turn around I see His work.
Should I complain that it was not my free choice?
If you actually believe this, then perhaps psychotherapy would be far more
helpful than complaining.
"She's just one dog-faced-boy short of a freak-show."
- - anonymous
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
18 Apr 2004 01:23:20 PM |
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"Icono" <iconoclst@home.com> wrote in message
news:fDugc.17893$Rz3.7081@fed1read05...
"Don" < calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote in message
news:gs3480df64uctqd8kf9393g56qspao64a6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him
in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation
with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
How about?
I have no knowledge of why or how, but God has taken a peice of human
waste
such as I to serve Him and follow Him. I don't deserve it and never will.
No matter what I do, I know within my heart that He is in control and I am
a
pawn. I also know that every time I turn around I see His work.
Should I complain that it was not my free choice?
This is the feeling of many Christians, a feeling of inadequacy. I am not
worthy, blah,blah, blah. I thank my pet rock that I don't have such terrible
feelings of inadequacy that prevent me from being able to think rationally
:-).
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
18 Apr 2004 11:58:57 AM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 05:36:27 -0700, "Icono" <iconoclst@home.com>
wrote:
"Don" < calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote in message
news:gs3480df64uctqd8kf9393g56qspao64a6@4ax.com...
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him
in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
How about?
I have no knowledge of why or how, but God has taken a peice of human waste
such as I to serve Him and follow Him. I don't deserve it and never will.
No matter what I do, I know within my heart that He is in control and I am a
pawn. I also know that every time I turn around I see His work.
Should I complain that it was not my free choice?
You need your meds adjusted.
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| User: "patrick_darcy" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
18 Apr 2004 12:02:43 PM |
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Don wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
don, why do u hate God so much ?
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LOVE is all u need.
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| User: "raven1" |
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18 Apr 2004 01:47:20 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:02:43 -0500, patrick_darcy
<patrickd@grandecom.net> wrote:
don, why do u hate God so much ?
Why would someone hate something that doesn't exist?
LOVE is all u need.
Even John Lennon didn't believe that by 1968 or so. It sounds good
when you're high, but it doesn't work in the real world.
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| User: "Thomas P." |
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19 Apr 2004 01:19:34 AM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 18:47:20 GMT, raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 12:02:43 -0500, patrick_darcy
<patrickd@grandecom.net> wrote:
don, why do u hate God so much ?
Why would someone hate something that doesn't exist?
LOVE is all u need.
Even John Lennon didn't believe that by 1968 or so. It sounds good
when you're high, but it doesn't work in the real world.
You do not need any god for it, and certainly not the murderous
monster the Christians hilariously call the god of love.
Thomas P.
None of the Emperor's clothes had been so successful before.
"But he has got nothing on," said a little child.
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou" |
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18 Apr 2004 10:40:49 AM |
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In article <gs3480df64uctqd8kf9393g56qspao64a6@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
________________________________________________________
Don, stop fighting, just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to know Him through His Word and prayer.
Trust Him to remove your torment and guilt.
He can and will do it and give you peace in your soul.
Wn't you do that simple thing? Trust Him?
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
18 Apr 2004 01:27:47 PM |
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"IKnowHimDoYou" <> wrote in message
news:IKnowHim-1804040840490001@pm8-29.kalama.com...
In article <gs3480df64uctqd8kf9393g56qspao64a6@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him
in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation
with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
________________________________________________________
Don, stop fighting, just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to know Him through His Word and prayer.
Trust Him to remove your torment and guilt.
He can and will do it and give you peace in your soul.
Wn't you do that simple thing? Trust Him?
Atta boy, YM1, I'm sure your tactics will lead many people to the "lord".
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| User: "David Jensen" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
18 Apr 2004 11:54:10 AM |
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In alt.talk.creationism, (IKnowHimDoYou) wrote
in <IKnowHim-1804040840490001@pm8-29.kalama.com>:
In article <gs3480df64uctqd8kf9393g56qspao64a6@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 08:57:46 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) lied when he said...:
Don, one thing is certain..God will not killfile you if you come to Him in
complete surrender and accept His free gift of pardon and salvation with
eternal life.
Won't you consider His free offer today?
His Free offer = Come to him. (not free)
His Free offer = Complete surrender (not free)
The LIE that BINDS.
________________________________________________________
Don, stop fighting, just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to know Him through His Word and prayer.
Trust Him to remove your torment and guilt.
He can and will do it and give you peace in your soul.
Wn't you do that simple thing? Trust Him?
IF there is a God, I won't mind surrendering to Him. I refuse to
surrender to the power-hungry, self-righteous, self-appointed
representatives of God who want power over us.
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
18 Apr 2004 11:27:21 PM |
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On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:40:49 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) demonstrated that he is truly a clueless idiot by
writing:
Don, stop fighting, just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to know Him through His Word and prayer.
Trust Him to remove your torment and guilt.
He can and will do it and give you peace in your soul.
Wn't you do that simple thing? Trust Him?
Why don't you pay attention?
Clueless...yep, that's it.
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves,
but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russell
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.
Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
-- Mohandas Gandhi
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
19 Apr 2004 10:23:45 AM |
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In article <h5l68096agkjdenje6jc65e8d1u0lsl139@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:40:49 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) demonstrated that he is truly a clueless idiot by
writing:
Don, stop fighting, just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to know Him through His Word and prayer.
Trust Him to remove your torment and guilt.
He can and will do it and give you peace in your soul.
Wn't you do that simple thing? Trust Him?
Why don't you pay attention?
Clueless...yep, that's it.
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Don, perhaps I am "clueless" but I do know that you can be saved and I
know from personaly experience what real liberation is.
Won't you at least consider the Saviour's offer?
He is not throwing you out like some trash
but considers you a priceless treaure.
You are so valuable to Him tht He died for you and in your palce.
Surrender your soul to Him-He won't let you down....
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| User: "Tom" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
19 Apr 2004 12:26:30 PM |
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"IKnowHimDoYou" <> wrote in message
news:IKnowHim-1904040823450001@pm6-20.kalama.com...
In article <h5l68096agkjdenje6jc65e8d1u0lsl139@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:40:49 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) demonstrated that he is truly a clueless idiot by
writing:
Don, stop fighting, just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to know Him through His Word and prayer.
Trust Him to remove your torment and guilt.
He can and will do it and give you peace in your soul.
Wn't you do that simple thing? Trust Him?
Why don't you pay attention?
Clueless...yep, that's it.
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Don, perhaps I am "clueless" but I do know that you can be saved and I
know from personaly experience what real liberation is.
Yes, you are most assuredly clueless. Saved from what you fool? If fools
like you didn't run around establishing physical constructs that required
"saving" then we wouldn't have a problem, would we,IDon'tKnowShit?
Won't you at least consider the Saviour's offer?
He is your savior, not ours.
He is not throwing you out like some trash
but considers you a priceless treaure.
We consider him non-existent.
You are so valuable to Him tht He died for you and in your palce.
Pretty stupid of him, wasn't it?
Surrender your soul to Him-He won't let you down....
We don't have a "soul", you ignorant *****.
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| User: "Don calldonREMOVE IT @something.net" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
19 Apr 2004 12:04:34 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:23:45 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <h5l68096agkjdenje6jc65e8d1u0lsl139@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:40:49 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) demonstrated that he is truly a clueless idiot by
writing:
Don, stop fighting, just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to know Him through His Word and prayer.
Trust Him to remove your torment and guilt.
He can and will do it and give you peace in your soul.
Wn't you do that simple thing? Trust Him?
Why don't you pay attention?
Clueless...yep, that's it.
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Don, perhaps I am "clueless" but I do know that you can be saved and I
know from personaly experience what real liberation is.
OK...tell me. From what specifically were you personally liberated?
How were you liberated? When were you liberated?
Won't you at least consider the Saviour's offer?
He is not throwing you out like some trash
but considers you a priceless treaure.
Who considers me a "priceless treasure?"
Tell me WHO DO YOU KNOW?
You are so valuable to Him tht He died for you and in your palce.
HOW DO YOU KNOW that I am valuable to him?
Surrender your soul to Him-He won't let you down....
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "surrender your soul to him?"
What does "surrender your soul" mean?
WHO won't let me down?
Let me down form what?
HOW do you KNOW "He" won't let me down?
Please be specific if you are going to be annoying. Prove your point.
Qualem blennum!
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou" |
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| Title: Re: To Believe Or Not to Believe |
20 Apr 2004 10:40:11 AM |
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In article <rc1880ttg6jdand6vljo4jogv6j0l9f82l@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:23:45 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
In article <h5l68096agkjdenje6jc65e8d1u0lsl139@4ax.com>, Don <
calldonREMOVE IT @something.net> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 08:40:49 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) demonstrated that he is truly a clueless idiot by
writing:
Don, stop fighting, just surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Come to know Him through His Word and prayer.
Trust Him to remove your torment and guilt.
He can and will do it and give you peace in your soul.
Wn't you do that simple thing? Trust Him?
Why don't you pay attention?
Clueless...yep, that's it.
____________________________________________________________
Don, perhaps I am "clueless" but I do know that you can be saved and I
know from personal experience what real liberation is.
OK...tell me. From what specifically were you personally liberated?
How were you liberated? When were you liberated?
Won't you at least consider the Saviour's offer?
He is not throwing you out like some trash
but considers you a priceless treaure.
Who considers me a "priceless treasure?"
Tell me WHO DO YOU KNOW?
You are so valuable to Him that He died for you and in your place.
HOW DO YOU KNOW that I am valuable to him?
Surrender your soul to Him-He won't let you down....
WHAT DO YOU MEAN "surrender your soul to him?"
What does "surrender your soul" mean?
WHO won't let me down?
Let me down form what?
HOW do you KNOW "He" won't let me down?
Please be specific if you are going to be annoying. Prove your point.
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"For God so loved Don that He gave His only begotten Son that if Don would
believe in Him Don should not parish but would have everlasting life" John
3:16.
That is God's contract with you. Won't you place your signature there on
the line in full surrender of your soul to Him? To believe is to trust.
To trust mean surrender.
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