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"Yahshua" |
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13 Jan 2007 10:08:01 PM |
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To protect our country from the homo-sexuals ... |
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: To protect our country from the homo-sexuals ... |
13 Jan 2007 10:50:41 PM |
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"Yahshua" <sweepster@peoplepc.com> writes:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
What an idiot (or a troll since he set the follow-ups header to deflect
responses)! Why people do post such historically inaccurate garbage?
Anti-Miscegenation laws were declared unconstitutional by the U.S.
Supreme Court on June 12, 1967.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law#United_States> states that
"Sodomy laws in the United States were largely a matter of state
rather than federal jurisdiction. By the last quarter of the 20th
century, 47 out of 50 states had repealed any specifically
anti-homosexual-conduct laws, and 37 had repealed all sodomy laws. The
remaining anti-homosexual laws have been invalidated by the 2003
U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas (see above)."
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14 Jan 2007 12:56:57 AM |
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 04:50:41 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law#United_States> states that
"Sodomy laws in the United States were largely a matter of state
rather than federal jurisdiction. By the last quarter of the 20th
century, 47 out of 50 states had repealed any specifically
anti-homosexual-conduct laws, and 37 had repealed all sodomy laws. The
remaining anti-homosexual laws have been invalidated by the 2003
U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas (see above)."
Excepting The Uniform Code Military Justice (UCMJ). Sodomy is still a
punishable offense in the Armed Forces.
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| User: "No One" |
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14 Jan 2007 01:40:13 AM |
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writes:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 04:50:41 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law#United_States> states that
"Sodomy laws in the United States were largely a matter of state
rather than federal jurisdiction. By the last quarter of the 20th
century, 47 out of 50 states had repealed any specifically
anti-homosexual-conduct laws, and 37 had repealed all sodomy laws. The
remaining anti-homosexual laws have been invalidated by the 2003
U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas (see above)."
Excepting The Uniform Code Military Justice (UCMJ). Sodomy is still a
punishable offense in the Armed Forces.
There was a 2003 Supreme Court ruling that applies nationwide. I'm
not sure of the applicability to the military as people in it have
fewer rights (you can be punished for telling someone who outranks you
to f___ off), whereas a normal U.S. citizen can legally say that to
the President of the U.S. So I don't think the U.S. military is
particularly relevant given that you don't have to join.
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14 Jan 2007 09:59:45 AM |
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On 13 Jan 2007 23:40:13 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
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edmund.fitzgerald@illino.net writes:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 04:50:41 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law#United_States> states that
"Sodomy laws in the United States were largely a matter of state
rather than federal jurisdiction. By the last quarter of the 20th
century, 47 out of 50 states had repealed any specifically
anti-homosexual-conduct laws, and 37 had repealed all sodomy laws. The
remaining anti-homosexual laws have been invalidated by the 2003
U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas (see above)."
Excepting The Uniform Code Military Justice (UCMJ). Sodomy is still a
punishable offense in the Armed Forces.
There was a 2003 Supreme Court ruling that applies nationwide. I'm
not sure of the applicability to the military as people in it have
fewer rights (you can be punished for telling someone who outranks you
to f___ off), whereas a normal U.S. citizen can legally say that to
the President of the U.S. So I don't think the U.S. military is
particularly relevant given that you don't have to join
..
I'm somewhat surprised by your opinion on the matter.Gays in the
military is a current issue yet you say that laws relative to conduct
in the military are not relevant. How do you view that as being, good
or not good?
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| User: "No One" |
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14 Jan 2007 12:28:10 PM |
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writes:
On 13 Jan 2007 23:40:13 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
writes:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 04:50:41 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law#United_States> states that
"Sodomy laws in the United States were largely a matter of state
rather than federal jurisdiction. By the last quarter of the 20th
century, 47 out of 50 states had repealed any specifically
anti-homosexual-conduct laws, and 37 had repealed all sodomy laws. The
remaining anti-homosexual laws have been invalidated by the 2003
U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas (see above)."
Excepting The Uniform Code Military Justice (UCMJ). Sodomy is still a
punishable offense in the Armed Forces.
There was a 2003 Supreme Court ruling that applies nationwide. I'm
not sure of the applicability to the military as people in it have
fewer rights (you can be punished for telling someone who outranks you
to f___ off), whereas a normal U.S. citizen can legally say that to
the President of the U.S. So I don't think the U.S. military is
particularly relevant given that you don't have to join
.
I'm somewhat surprised by your opinion on the matter.Gays in the
military is a current issue yet you say that laws relative to conduct
in the military are not relevant. How do you view that as being, good
or not good?
Gays in the military is not the current issue in this thread, and
certainly was not the issue raised by the guy I was replying to, who
claimed sodomy laws were in place in most states as recently as 20
years ago. The U.S. military's rules are not something that will
bail that guy out of having made a completely bogus statement.
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| User: "" |
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14 Jan 2007 05:01:40 PM |
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:28:10 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
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edmund.fitzgerald@illino.net writes:
On 13 Jan 2007 23:40:13 -0800, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
edmund.fitzgerald@illino.net writes:
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 04:50:41 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodomy_law#United_States> states that
"Sodomy laws in the United States were largely a matter of state
rather than federal jurisdiction. By the last quarter of the 20th
century, 47 out of 50 states had repealed any specifically
anti-homosexual-conduct laws, and 37 had repealed all sodomy laws. The
remaining anti-homosexual laws have been invalidated by the 2003
U.S. Supreme Court decision Lawrence v. Texas (see above)."
Excepting The Uniform Code Military Justice (UCMJ). Sodomy is still a
punishable offense in the Armed Forces.
There was a 2003 Supreme Court ruling that applies nationwide. I'm
not sure of the applicability to the military as people in it have
fewer rights (you can be punished for telling someone who outranks you
to f___ off), whereas a normal U.S. citizen can legally say that to
the President of the U.S. So I don't think the U.S. military is
particularly relevant given that you don't have to join
.
I'm somewhat surprised by your opinion on the matter.Gays in the
military is a current issue yet you say that laws relative to conduct
in the military are not relevant. How do you view that as being, good
or not good?
Gays in the military is not the current issue in this thread, and
certainly was not the issue raised by the guy I was replying to, who
claimed sodomy laws were in place in most states as recently as 20
years ago. The U.S. military's rules are not something that will
bail that guy out of having made a completely bogus statement.
Hmmmm...but dodge-ball has been banned on grammar school grounds.
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| User: "No One" |
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14 Jan 2007 08:58:28 PM |
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Hmmmm...but dodge-ball has been banned on grammar school grounds.
Can't you do better than that?
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| User: "" |
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15 Jan 2007 01:56:07 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:58:28 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
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edmund.fitzgerald@illino.net writes:
Hmmmm...but dodge-ball has been banned on grammar school grounds.
Can't you do better than that?I
You do understand that since this is not a moderated newsgroup I am
the only one who has to approve of my posts. Everyone else has the
option to simply ignore them as you may ignore this one.
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| User: "No One" |
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15 Jan 2007 02:52:58 PM |
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writes:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:58:28 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
writes:
Hmmmm...but dodge-ball has been banned on grammar school grounds.
Can't you do better than that?I
You do understand that since this is not a moderated newsgroup I am
the only one who has to approve of my posts. Everyone else has the
option to simply ignore them as you may ignore this one.
You apparently do not understand literary criticism, which has nothing
to do with whether a group is moderated or not. Let us just say that
your writing was found to be inadequate.
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| User: "" |
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15 Jan 2007 06:23:45 PM |
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:52:58 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
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edmund.fitzgerald@illino.net writes:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 02:58:28 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
edmund.fitzgerald@illino.net writes:
Hmmmm...but dodge-ball has been banned on grammar school grounds.
Can't you do better than that?I
You do understand that since this is not a moderated newsgroup I am
the only one who has to approve of my posts. Everyone else has the
option to simply ignore them as you may ignore this one.
You apparently do not understand literary criticism, which has nothing
to do with whether a group is moderated or not.
Other than in your own mind are you a recognized literary critic or
are you just posing as one on Usenet?
Let us just say that your writing was found to be inadequate.
You can say that, however, I say it was very precise and cut through
the chaff and certainly adequate for the setting. I suspect that you
thought it "inadequate" because you didn't understand it. Some people
tend to criticize things they don't understand.
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| User: "No One" |
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15 Jan 2007 08:11:52 PM |
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writes:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:52:58 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
writes:
You do understand that since this is not a moderated newsgroup I am
the only one who has to approve of my posts. Everyone else has the
option to simply ignore them as you may ignore this one.
You apparently do not understand literary criticism, which has nothing
to do with whether a group is moderated or not.
Other than in your own mind are you a recognized literary critic or
are you just posing as one on Usenet?
Do you undertand the difference between literary criticism and being
a professional critic? Apparently not. And you might try to avoid
putting words in people's mouths since I never claimed to be a
"recognized literary critic".
<snip>
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| User: "" |
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15 Jan 2007 10:23:09 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:11:52 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
edmund.fitzgerald@illino.net writes:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:52:58 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
edmund.fitzgerald@illino.net writes:
You do understand that since this is not a moderated newsgroup I am
the only one who has to approve of my posts. Everyone else has the
option to simply ignore them as you may ignore this one.
You apparently do not understand literary criticism, which has nothing
to do with whether a group is moderated or not.
Other than in your own mind are you a recognized literary critic or
are you just posing as one on Usenet?
Do you undertand the difference between literary criticism and being
a professional critic? Apparently not. And you might try to avoid
putting words in people's mouths since I never claimed to be a
"recognized literary critic".
Be you recognized or unrecognized your critique of my post is
meaningless to me since I know it to be nothing more than one
man's biased opinion. Furthermore, that you consider posts to a
newsgroup on the Internet to be relating to or characteristic of
literature is ludicrous.
FYI -- This will be my last post on this sub-thread. It's a
nonproductive exchange leading nowhere.
<snip>
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15 Jan 2007 11:36:52 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 02:11:52 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
writes:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:52:58 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
writes:
You do understand that since this is not a moderated newsgroup I am
the only one who has to approve of my posts. Everyone else has the
option to simply ignore them as you may ignore this one.
You apparently do not understand literary criticism, which has nothing
to do with whether a group is moderated or not.
Other than in your own mind are you a recognized literary critic or
are you just posing as one on Usenet?
Do you undertand the difference between literary criticism and being
a professional critic? Apparently not. And you might try to avoid
putting words in people's mouths since I never claimed to be a
"recognized literary critic".
Be you recognized or unrecognized your critique of my post is
meaningless to me since I know it to be nothing more than one
man's biased opinion.
I certainly recognize your post as "one man's biased opinion" and
I hardly care if you think my critique is "meaningless" to you. Do
you think I'd bother posting anything if you were the only reader?
Furthermore, that you consider posts to a newsgroup on the Internet
to be relating to or characteristic of literature is ludicrous.
Literary criticism can be directed at writings that do not qualify
as serious "literature". Or are you too dumb to know that?
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| User: "Yahshua" |
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14 Jan 2007 09:40:39 PM |
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Enkidu <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> raves:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and
miscegenation laws and statutes that were strictly enforced.
Since that time they have been repealed or are ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land.
Both of these abominations against God and nature must be stopped if
America is ever to return to the great Christian nation it once was.
So, what should I do if I *don't* want the United States to "return to the
great Christian nation it once was?"
Face Saudi Arabia and bow down.
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15 Jan 2007 07:40:51 PM |
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On 14 Jan 2007 04:08:01 -0000, "Yahshua" <sweepster@peoplepc.com>
wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
Not true. Some did, many did not.
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
You have to be joking. Sodomy laws were almost never enforced. No it
the US in the last 40 years anyway.
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
AIDS is caused by a virus.
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
God made both homosexuals and AIDS according to your mythology.
nation it once was.
Do you whack off to that fantasy?
{note to a.a readers. post is set to send follow ups only to
alt.hacker.}
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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15 Jan 2007 08:13:04 PM |
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satyr wrote:
On 14 Jan 2007 04:08:01 -0000, "Yahshua" <sweepster@peoplepc.com>
wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
Not true. Some did, many did not.
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
You have to be joking. Sodomy laws were almost never enforced. No it
the US in the last 40 years anyway.
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
AIDS is caused by a virus.
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
God made both homosexuals and AIDS according to your mythology.
nation it once was.
Do you whack off to that fantasy?
{note to a.a readers. post is set to send follow ups only to
alt.hacker.}
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satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
Only way to smother gays is to open the borders full blast.
And or go Wahabism (Wahabists are non-human and asexual).
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13 Jan 2007 11:25:12 PM |
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On 14 Jan 2007 04:08:01 -0000, "Yahshua" <sweepster@peoplepc.com>
wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
There was a time when some states had laws banning sex of any kind
except for married couples. Your point would be?
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
Bad laws do have a tendency to be repealed. Except, of course, when
the Republicans are in power, in which case they tend to proliferate.
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
God doesn't exist and homosexuality is actually rather common in
nature. I'm afraid you'll have to do better than this.
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14 Jan 2007 02:53:13 AM |
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Please do not reply to the original post in this thread. Note that it
is posted to alt.politics.homosexuality and alt.atheism, but the
followups are set to alt.hacker .
The post is simply a troll's attempt to get other people to help him
flood alt.hacker with posts. He doesn't care about the content of his
post, as long as it incites people to post in the alt.hacker newsgroup.
Please pay attention to followups and do not support the troll by
posting replies to his post in the alt.hacker newsgroup.
Thank you.
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The difference between intelligence and stupidity is that intelligence
has its limits.
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14 Jan 2007 12:48:16 AM |
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Um, do you know what "miscegenation" means? That's what people used to
call marriage or sexual relations between people of different races.
Miscegenation laws forbade marriage between an African-American and a
Caucasian, or between an Asian and a Caucasian. I suppose they would
also have forbidden marriage between an African-American and an Asian,
but possibly weren't enforced as vigorously.
Did you not know what the word meant, or are you suggesting that sexual
relations between people of different races somehow carries a different
disease risk than when people have sexual relations with someone of the
same race?
That's ok. I wouldn't answer this question either if I were you. I
wouldn't want to look that ignorant.
Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
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14 Jan 2007 01:15:30 AM |
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Um, do you know what "miscegenation" means? That's what people used to
call marriage or sexual relations between people of different races.
Miscegenation laws forbade marriage between an African-American and a
Caucasian, or between an Asian and a Caucasian. I suppose they would
also have forbidden marriage between an African-American and an Asian,
but possibly weren't enforced as vigorously.
Did you not know what the word meant, or are you suggesting that sexual
relations between people of different races somehow carries a different
disease risk than when people have sexual relations with someone of the
same race?
That's ok. I wouldn't answer this question either if I were you. I
wouldn't want to look that ignorant.
Yahshua overlooks the fact that in order to stem the spread of herpes
we need laws and statutes forbidding heterosexual intercourse.
Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
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14 Jan 2007 01:31:28 AM |
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On 13 Jan 2007 23:15:30 -0800, "Mike" <matmzc@hofstra.edu> wrote:
combs.bachmann.esque@gmail.com wrote:
Um, do you know what "miscegenation" means? That's what people used to
call marriage or sexual relations between people of different races.
Miscegenation laws forbade marriage between an African-American and a
Caucasian, or between an Asian and a Caucasian. I suppose they would
also have forbidden marriage between an African-American and an Asian,
but possibly weren't enforced as vigorously.
Did you not know what the word meant, or are you suggesting that sexual
relations between people of different races somehow carries a different
disease risk than when people have sexual relations with someone of the
same race?
That's ok. I wouldn't answer this question either if I were you. I
wouldn't want to look that ignorant.
Yahshua overlooks the fact that in order to stem the spread of herpes
we need laws and statutes forbidding heterosexual intercourse.
You mean syphillis weren't brought back to Europe from the New Wrold
by gay conquistador? </snark>
Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3018 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
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14 Jan 2007 01:54:18 PM |
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Yahshua wrote:
Both of these abominations against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the great Christian nation it once was.
And who founded the nation? Why I do believe the answer to that question
is "People who were 'religious misfits.'"
Oops.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
Q. Why are Christmas and Halloween the same to a programmer?
A. Because 25 DEC = 31 OCT
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15 Jan 2007 11:44:09 PM |
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Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
<APPLAUSE>
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16 Jan 2007 11:57:12 AM |
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Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
Seeing as how the Founding Fathers specified that there must be a
strict separation of Church and State, which they further strengthened
by adding the Freedom to Practice (and by corollary, not practice) the
religion of one's choice -- I was unaware that the USA was ever a
"Christian" nation.
Certainly many of the Founding Fathers believed in God and most of
them may have specifically believed in the Judeo-Christian God, but
they felt it was important that no one religion have sway over this
nation the way that the Anglican Church controlled England or the way
that the Roman Catholic Church controlled most of Europe.
Furthermore, they recognized that no government should have the power
to tell people what they should believe or what they can and cannot do
with other consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes -- so
long as such does not break the laws that are only there to "establish
justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense,
promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to
ourselves and our posterity."
I do apologize if the facts confuse or inconvenience you.
4s00th
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: To protect our country from the homo-sexuals ... |
16 Jan 2007 10:17:24 PM |
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4s00th wrote:
Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
Seeing as how the Founding Fathers specified that there must be a
strict separation of Church and State, which they further strengthened
by adding the Freedom to Practice (and by corollary, not practice) the
religion of one's choice -- I was unaware that the USA was ever a
"Christian" nation.
Certainly many of the Founding Fathers believed in God and most of
them may have specifically believed in the Judeo-Christian God, but
they felt it was important that no one religion have sway over this
nation the way that the Anglican Church controlled England or the way
that the Roman Catholic Church controlled most of Europe.
Furthermore, they recognized that no government should have the power
to tell people what they should believe or what they can and cannot do
with other consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes -- so
long as such does not break the laws that are only there to "establish
justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense,
promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to
ourselves and our posterity."
I do apologize if the facts confuse or inconvenience you.
What about these facts...
"I am a pedophile -- someone who is sexually attracted to children; I
won't quibble about pre-adolescent or post-adolescent because I like
them all. That does not make me a threat to children"--humiliated
pedophile 4s00th
"Yes, I've thought about giving little boys blow jobs, and the
fantasies have been very thrilling and exciting to me"--humiliated
pedophile 4s00th
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.boy-lovers/msg/d768e45a1077ee84?&hl=en
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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| Title: Re: To protect our country from the homo-sexuals ... |
17 Jan 2007 09:39:30 AM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
4s00th wrote:
Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
Seeing as how the Founding Fathers specified that there must be a
strict separation of Church and State, which they further strengthened
by adding the Freedom to Practice (and by corollary, not practice) the
religion of one's choice -- I was unaware that the USA was ever a
"Christian" nation.
Certainly many of the Founding Fathers believed in God and most of
them may have specifically believed in the Judeo-Christian God, but
they felt it was important that no one religion have sway over this
nation the way that the Anglican Church controlled England or the way
that the Roman Catholic Church controlled most of Europe.
Furthermore, they recognized that no government should have the power
to tell people what they should believe or what they can and cannot do
with other consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes -- so
long as such does not break the laws that are only there to "establish
justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense,
promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to
ourselves and our posterity."
I do apologize if the facts confuse or inconvenience you.
What about these facts...
"I am a pedophile -- someone who is sexually attracted to children; I
won't quibble about pre-adolescent or post-adolescent because I like
them all. That does not make me a threat to children"--humiliated
pedophile 4s00th
"Yes, I've thought about giving little boys blow jobs, and the
fantasies have been very thrilling and exciting to me"--humiliated
pedophile 4s00th
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.boy-lovers/msg/d768e45a1077ee84?&hl=en
Instead of acknowledging 400's decision not to act on feelings for boys
as praiseworthy, bob continues to attack him.
bob is best when ignored.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: To protect our country from the homo-sexuals ... |
18 Jan 2007 04:22:57 PM |
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On Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:57:12 -0500, 4s00th <4s00th@thetruth.com>
wrote:
Seeing as how the Founding Fathers specified that there must be a
strict separation of Church and State, which they further strengthened
by adding the Freedom to Practice (and by corollary, not practice) the
religion of one's choice -- I was unaware that the USA was ever a
"Christian" nation.
Especially since many of those who put their life on the line to wrest
the country from King George ratified a treaty that stated that the US
was NOT founded on Christianity. Most of those founding fathers were
either Unitarians or Deists - very few were Christian. The majority
of the population in those days - 75% - was unchurched.
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| User: "Mark Sebree" |
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| Title: Re: To protect our country from the homo-sexuals ... |
16 Jan 2007 12:32:56 PM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
Look again. Miscegenation laws were ruled unconstitutional almost 40
years ago by Loving vs. Virginia because they were blatantly racist.
that were strictly enforced.
Again, wrong. They were SELECTIVELY enforced. While miscegenation
laws were heavily enforced where they existed, which was usually due to
bigotry, sodomy laws were RARELY enforced. They were mostly used as a
way to punish homosexuals for being homosexuals.
Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
And rightly so.
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land.
Really? The results that I see are that people do not have to fear
that they will be unable to love and express their love for the person
that they wish to do so with (assuming they are consenting adults) and
marry whom they wish ( assuming that they are heterosexual). The
repeal of those hateful and bigoted laws has NOTHING to do with the
spread of HIV.
Both of these abominations
No "abominations" are in evidence, except you and the troll/bigot
"bobandcarol".
against God
Which one? There are millions of deities in "existence", and none of
them can be proven to exist. Why should anyone be forced to kowtow to
your imaginary playmate or obey your bigoted and oppressive opinions
and pronouncements?
and nature
Homosexuality, which seems to be your problem, is very present in
nature and fairly common, so homosexuality is NOT an "abomination
against ... nature". What's more, interracial marriages are not an
"abomination" against anything.
must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian nation it once was.
American has NEVER been a "Christian" nation. It is a SECULAR nation
with an explicit separation of church and state. No law may be passed
that is based solely on any person's or group's religious beliefs. Any
such law that does get passed can and should be challenged and thrown
out as being a violation of the First Amendment and the Separation of
Church and State. Or perhaps you would like to be forced to obey
Muslim holy law, as you are demanding that others obey your religion's
law?
<APPLAUSE>
Thanks for proving that you are a bigot, a racist, and a homophobe.
Yahshua's article deserves, and gets from me, a resounding raspberry,
loud "BOO"s, and multiple thumbs down as being hateful, ill-informed,
bigoted, and uneducated.
Mark Sebree
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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14 Jan 2007 07:15:26 AM |
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Yahshua wrote:
Until 20 or so years ago, nearly all states had 'sodomy' and miscegenation
laws and statutes
that were strictly enforced. Since that time they have been repealed or are
ignored, the
results are obvious with the plague of AIDS now ravaging our land. Both of
these abominations
against God and nature must be stopped if America is ever to return to the
great Christian
nation it once was.
Bring it on ***** head, better people then you have tried.
Of course, if you bothered to keep your nose stuck to your own face, and
out of other people's lives, none of this would matter to you. And
naturally, instead of saying something like "Dear Jesus, please help all
those in medical research find a cure for AIDS", you would rather drag
the demon of the moment out into the street and stone it to death, in
good christian love of course. And to further display your total lack
of regard to the people of this country, you would be more then happy to
become a huge domestic enemy of our constitution, by violating it's very
best amendment.
Well, those of us that have sworn to uphold and defend that document
from all enemies, both foreign and domestic can only hope you are stupid
enough to try and destroy what is protected by it.
Do yourself a favor, you empty headed troll, worry about what happens in
your own home and life, and keep your fucking face out of mine.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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