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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Mark Earnest"
Date: 09 Mar 2007 08:59:36 PM
Object: to see God
Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays everything
that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?
Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since its
inception?
Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she is
with a single, well intentioned glow?
That is a daiquiri.
The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.
Every see a man, who totally takes charge, and knows your game like he
designed it himself?
Ever see a man, who draws the very best from you, and kindles it like a
fire, until all around you are warmed by the penetrable glow?
Does he have the wisdom of the ages, and always know precisely what to say
to encourage you?
That is a daddy.
Daiquiris and daddies are manifestations of the omnipresent God.
They can be your father, your mother, your sister, your brother.
They can even be your husband or your wife.
There is your proof of God.
Time to go see him, now.
.

User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 12:00:28 AM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:12v47okrdevllb9@corp.supernews.com:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays
everything that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

No.

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since
its inception?

No.

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she
is with a single, well intentioned glow?

No.

That is a daiquiri.

Yeah. Rum. You've had too much.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.

God is rum? This explains much.

Every see a man, who totally takes charge, and knows your game like he
designed it himself?

No.

Ever see a man, who draws the very best from you, and kindles it like
a fire, until all around you are warmed by the penetrable glow?

No.

Does he have the wisdom of the ages, and always know precisely what to
say to encourage you?

Who? The man I've never seen?

That is a daddy.

My dad is a retired Navy Corpsman and nurse. He's as much an atheist as
I am. Is the his "wisdom of the ages"?

Daiquiris and daddies are manifestations of the omnipresent God.
They can be your father, your mother, your sister, your brother.
They can even be your husband or your wife.

Are earthquakes, tornados, cancers, and body odor also "manifestations of
the omnipresent God"?

There is your proof of God.
Time to go see him, now.

Time for a reality check dude! That or some more rum.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Encourage free schools and resolve that not one dollar appropriated for
their support shall be appropriated to the support of any sectarian
schools. Resolve that neither the state nor nation, nor both combined,
shall support institutions of learning other than those sufficient to
afford every child growing up in the land of opportunity of a good common
school education, unmixed with sectarian, pagan, or atheistical dogmas.
Leave the matter of religion to the family altar, the church and the
private school supported entirely by private contributions. Keep the
church and state forever separate.
-- Ulysses S. Grant
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 12:22:44 AM
"Enkidu" wrote....

God is rum? This explains much.

Every see a man, who totally takes charge, and knows your game like he
designed it himself?


No.

Ever see a man, who draws the very best from you, and kindles it like
a fire, until all around you are warmed by the penetrable glow?


No.

Does he have the wisdom of the ages, and always know precisely what to
say to encourage you?


Who? The man I've never seen?

That is a daddy.


My dad is a retired Navy Corpsman and nurse. He's as much an atheist as
I am. Is the his "wisdom of the ages"?

Could be. Wisdom of the ages comes in many forms. Check it out.
Your dad could be a daddy. Not saying he is, but it can happen.


Daiquiris and daddies are manifestations of the omnipresent God.
They can be your father, your mother, your sister, your brother.
They can even be your husband or your wife.


Are earthquakes, tornados, cancers, and body odor also "manifestations of
the omnipresent God"?

No, at least not in the sense that I am currently talking about.
I am talking about God simply making himself visible and tangible.
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 12:34:04 AM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:12v4jlh1ps07geb@corp.supernews.com:


"Enkidu" wrote....

God is rum? This explains much.

Every see a man, who totally takes charge, and knows your game like
he designed it himself?


No.

Ever see a man, who draws the very best from you, and kindles it
like a fire, until all around you are warmed by the penetrable
glow?


No.

Does he have the wisdom of the ages, and always know precisely what
to say to encourage you?


Who? The man I've never seen?

That is a daddy.


My dad is a retired Navy Corpsman and nurse. He's as much an atheist
as I am. Is the his "wisdom of the ages"?


Could be. Wisdom of the ages comes in many forms. Check it out.
Your dad could be a daddy. Not saying he is, but it can happen.


Daiquiris and daddies are manifestations of the omnipresent God.
They can be your father, your mother, your sister, your brother.
They can even be your husband or your wife.


Are earthquakes, tornados, cancers, and body odor also
"manifestations of the omnipresent God"?


No, at least not in the sense that I am currently talking about.
I am talking about God simply making himself visible and tangible.

Perhaps death, distruction, suffering of the innocent, denture stains,
and sporks are God's way of making himself apparent and tangible. It
makes as much sense as anything you've said.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"'There are no atheists in foxholes' isn't an argument against atheism,
it's an argument against foxholes.
-James Morrow
.



User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 05:56:15 AM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12v47okrdevllb9@corp.supernews.com...

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays everything
that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since its
inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she is
with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.

A fucking alchoholic beverage?!?! You're out of your fucking mind.


Every see a man, who totally takes charge, and knows your game like he
designed it himself?

Nope.


Ever see a man, who draws the very best from you, and kindles it like a
fire, until all around you are warmed by the penetrable glow?

Nope.

Does he have the wisdom of the ages, and always know precisely what to say
to encourage you?

Nope


That is a daddy.

Whose daddy? Mine's dead.


Daiquiris and daddies are manifestations of the omnipresent God.
They can be your father, your mother, your sister, your brother.
They can even be your husband or your wife.

There is your proof of God.

There is more of your *****.

Time to go see him, now.

Get stuffed.


--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 06:57:29 AM
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:56:15 -0500, Robibnikoff wrote:

"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:12v47okrdevllb9@corp.supernews.com...

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays everything
that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since its
inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she is
with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.


A fucking alchoholic beverage?!?! You're out of your fucking mind.

Ayup...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
.


User: "chibiabos"

Title: Re: to see God 11 Mar 2007 01:39:01 AM
In article <12v47okrdevllb9@corp.supernews.com>, Mark Earnest
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays everything
that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since its
inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she is
with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.

Every see a man, who totally takes charge, and knows your game like he
designed it himself?

Ever see a man, who draws the very best from you, and kindles it like a
fire, until all around you are warmed by the penetrable glow?

Does he have the wisdom of the ages, and always know precisely what to say
to encourage you?

That is a daddy.

Daiquiris and daddies are manifestations of the omnipresent God.
They can be your father, your mother, your sister, your brother.
They can even be your husband or your wife.

There is your proof of God.
Time to go see him, now.


You are a truly disturbed individual. The proof of that is that you
think you're making sense, but the rest of us know otherwise.
-chib
--
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
Sarcastic Middle-aged Atheists with a Sense of Humor
.

User: ""

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 04:03:50 AM
On 10 mrt, 03:59, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays everything
that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since its
inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she is
with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.

Every see a man, who totally takes charge, and knows your game like he
designed it himself?

Ever see a man, who draws the very best from you, and kindles it like a
fire, until all around you are warmed by the penetrable glow?

Does he have the wisdom of the ages, and always know precisely what to say
to encourage you?

That is a daddy.

Daiquiris and daddies are manifestations of the omnipresent God.
They can be your father, your mother, your sister, your brother.
They can even be your husband or your wife.

There is your proof of God.
Time to go see him, now.

Standard platonian mistake.
Detect something that some people have in common,
give it a name,
Then think this abstraction is the real thing,
and go one and treat the real things you notice
as manifestations of the abstraction.
No Mark,
those are real people
and they really care for you!
Peter van Velzen
March 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
.

User: "John Baker"

Title: Re: to see God 09 Mar 2007 09:30:37 PM
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:59:36 -0600, "Mark Earnest"
<gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote:
....play Black Sabbath at 78 speed.
.

User: "Martin Phipps"

Title: Re: to see God 09 Mar 2007 09:16:38 PM
On Mar 10, 10:59 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays everything
that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since its
inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she is
with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.

And what exactly is God in your definition? Is your God a woody? If
so then you've reversed cause an effect here: the woody exists because
of the woman; it's not the woman that exists because of the woody.
Martin
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 09 Mar 2007 09:33:31 PM
"Martin Phipps" <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173496598.144993.102100@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 10, 10:59 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays

everything

that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since its
inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she

is

with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.


And what exactly is God in your definition?

The one who started it all, and who finishes it all.
The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that exists.
The supplier of life.
The giver of the state of immortality.
You've heard about him all your life.
You know.
Is your God a woody? If

so then you've reversed cause an effect here: the woody exists because
of the woman; it's not the woman that exists because of the woody.

Martin

.
User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: to see God 09 Mar 2007 10:09:10 PM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Martin Phipps" <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173496598.144993.102100@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 10, 10:59 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays

everything

that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since its
inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything she

is

with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.


And what exactly is God in your definition?


The one who started it all, and who finishes it all.

Hey, you've finished it all, you greedy *****!

The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that exists.

Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?

The supplier of life.

According to your beliefs, also the bringer of death.
(but, of course, you sneakily avoided mentioning that)

The giver of the state of immortality.

There's no such thing as immortality, in the sense that you mean it, so
nothing has given it.

You've heard about him all your life.

I've heard about milk all my life.
Should I bow down and pray to the the milkman?
All praise the full cream milk!
Skimmed milk worshipers are heretics!
Is the church leader called a Pastuer?

You know.

Not only don't I know, I don't care either.
Smiler,
The godless one
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 09 Mar 2007 10:18:19 PM
"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Martin Phipps" <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173496598.144993.102100@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 10, 10:59 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays

everything

that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since

its

inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything

she

is

with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.


And what exactly is God in your definition?


The one who started it all, and who finishes it all.


Hey, you've finished it all, you greedy *****!

The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?

Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


The supplier of life.


According to your beliefs, also the bringer of death.
(but, of course, you sneakily avoided mentioning that)

The giver of the state of immortality.


There's no such thing as immortality, in the sense that you mean it, so
nothing has given it.

There are lots of immortals in the world. People come back from the dead
all the time. Don't tell me you haven't seen any of them!
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: to see God 12 Mar 2007 01:23:14 PM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in
snip

Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.

You believe in demons too?


There are lots of immortals in the world.

Prove it.
People come back from the dead

all the time. Don't tell me you haven't seen any of them!

Nope. Not seen one.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.

User: "Greywolf"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 08:58:03 AM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Martin Phipps" <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1173496598.144993.102100@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 10, 10:59 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays

everything

that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since

its

inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything

she

is

with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.


And what exactly is God in your definition?


The one who started it all, and who finishes it all.


Hey, you've finished it all, you greedy *****!

The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


What an absolutely 'lame' response.
This is a perfect example of a theist trying to camoflauge the fact that his
'God' is downright EVIL!
Look at what Smiler presented you with carefully. Savor it. Let it roll all
over your tongue like a fine wine. These 'gifts' of your 'God' to mankind
are beyond 'vile'. By introducing such unbelievable evil into the world,
your (imaginary) 'God' clearly shows how uncaring and malevolent he truly
is. Just as a husband who beats his wife to the point that she has to be
hospitalized on a regular basis and yet claims he 'loves' her; so too a
'God' who is claimed to be a 'loving' God, yet consciously and
*deliberately* introduced eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic
plague, smallpox, diptheria, and a whole host of unspeakably horrific
diseases into existence -- when he clearly had the option *not* to. *That*
shows what kind of malevolent creature you worship. You cannot 'sugar coat'
the evil introduced into existence by your make-believe 'Love God', nor
account for such evil by offering up the explanation that such evil serves
to make life more 'interesting'. What a load of hooey! Your 'God' is the
most sadistic, cruel, and uncaring imaginary deity man has ever 'created'.
The worst! Prove he's not.
Remember this: Before the universe even came into existence, your 'God'
conceived of the notion of it and what 'elements' it would be comprised of.
He thought of creating man and woman and introduced them into existence. He
rolled the idea of 'evil' -- (And where in the *hell* did *that* idea, that
*concept* of evil, come from? Great-grandpa 'God'?) -- around in his 'brain'
for a spell and then consciously chose to afflict man (and his perfectly
created 'angels') with it like a an inoperable form of cancer. Now tell me
*that* is the act of a 'loving' God. Tell Smiler that 'God's' creation of
evil was for the sole purpose of making life for man, more 'interesting'.
Tell that to the survivors of the Holocaust, or the slowly starving men,
women, and children of Darfur! What a mindless position to hold. You are
living in a land of delusion. You are propping up and trying to 'sell' a
deity that is patently, morally reprehensible and depraved. Thank *goodness*
this creature of yours is entirely make-believe! But that doesn't explain
your irrational presentation of him to us as some sort of paragon of virtue
and the personification of all that is 'Good'. What hog-wash! Your 'God' is
EVIL. He conjured up the concept of evil in his mind, and deliberately
introduced it into existence. The very personification of evil, 'Satan', was
created by this 'God' of yours with a fore-knowledge of what kind of
depravity he would stoop to and unleash on mankind. But think about *this*.
It is your 'God' who is the 'monster', not the 'scape-goat', Satan, who had
no option whatsoever to 'refuse' his role. Just as 'God' supernaturally
intervened and made Pharaoh do something he did not really want to do in
Exodus 10:20, so too with 'Satan'. What a sadistic fiend your 'God' is! And
need I bring up that disgustingly sadistic act of ordering Abraham to
'sacrifice' his son 'Isaac' as a 'burnt offering' up to his Godness? What in
the hell is wrong with your brain, dude?! Where in the hell is your head?!
Can't you see that this imagined 'God' of yours is 'evil' and *not*
'good'???


The supplier of life.


You mean for a day or two for 'crack babies' or babies so deformed at birth
that they wish they had never been born? For the 'Elephant Man' (Joseph
Merrick)? Gee, what a precious 'gift' *he* got.

According to your beliefs, also the bringer of death.
(but, of course, you sneakily avoided mentioning that)

The giver of the state of immortality.


There's no such thing as immortality, in the sense that you mean it, so
nothing has given it.


There are lots of immortals in the world. People come back from the dead
all the time. Don't tell me you haven't seen any of them!



You're living a life of delusion. Your beliefs have no basis in fact. And
when looking at the heinous 'acts' perpetrated by your beloved deity -- and
the absurdity involved (God is the son of God? -- A 'borrowed' phrase which
epitomizes how preposterous the claims for the existence of 'God' tend to
get.) One comes away dazed and nearly bowled-over by the irrationality and
senselessness of such a belief-system.
It's 'cuckoo' when one gives it unblinded scrutiny.
C'mon Mark! You're better than that.
Greywolf
(My profuse apologies for 'butting-in' here, Smiler. Your points were well
made. I just can't take such irresponsible and nauseating inablilty of the
brainwashed to confront the truth such as is exhibited here, at times. What
in the hell are these people's heads? Existing in a vacuum?)
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 05:18:26 PM
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Smiler" <Smiler@Joe.King.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Martin Phipps" <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:59 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays

everything

that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life

since

its

inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything

she

is

with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.


And what exactly is God in your definition?


The one who started it all, and who finishes it all.


Hey, you've finished it all, you greedy *****!

The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.



What an absolutely 'lame' response.

This is a perfect example of a theist trying to camoflauge the fact that

his

'God' is downright EVIL!

Look at what Smiler presented you with carefully. Savor it. Let it roll

all

over your tongue like a fine wine. These 'gifts' of your 'God' to mankind
are beyond 'vile'.

They may be vile to you, since you think this life is all you have.
But they are not that vile in reality, because they last less than a
microsecond, compared to the eternity which they are backwashed against.
These evils in the world are there for our sake, so that we may overcome and
defeat them, and thereby obtain honour that lasts.
By introducing such unbelievable evil into the world,

your (imaginary) 'God' clearly shows how uncaring and malevolent he truly
is. Just as a husband who beats his wife to the point that she has to be
hospitalized on a regular basis and yet claims he 'loves' her; so too a
'God' who is claimed to be a 'loving' God, yet consciously and
*deliberately* introduced eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic
plague, smallpox, diptheria, and a whole host of unspeakably horrific
diseases into existence -- when he clearly had the option *not* to. *That*
shows what kind of malevolent creature you worship. You cannot 'sugar

coat'

the evil introduced into existence by your make-believe 'Love God', nor
account for such evil by offering up the explanation that such evil serves
to make life more 'interesting'. What a load of hooey! Your 'God' is the
most sadistic, cruel, and uncaring imaginary deity man has ever 'created'.
The worst! Prove he's not.

Remember this: Before the universe even came into existence, your 'God'
conceived of the notion of it and what 'elements' it would be comprised

of.

He thought of creating man and woman and introduced them into existence.

He

rolled the idea of 'evil' -- (And where in the *hell* did *that* idea,

that

*concept* of evil, come from? Great-grandpa 'God'?) -- around in his

'brain'

for a spell and then consciously chose to afflict man (and his perfectly
created 'angels') with it like a an inoperable form of cancer. Now tell me
*that* is the act of a 'loving' God. Tell Smiler that 'God's' creation of
evil was for the sole purpose of making life for man, more 'interesting'.
Tell that to the survivors of the Holocaust, or the slowly starving men,
women, and children of Darfur! What a mindless position to hold. You are
living in a land of delusion. You are propping up and trying to 'sell' a
deity that is patently, morally reprehensible and depraved. Thank

*goodness*

this creature of yours is entirely make-believe! But that doesn't explain
your irrational presentation of him to us as some sort of paragon of

virtue

and the personification of all that is 'Good'. What hog-wash! Your 'God'

is

EVIL. He conjured up the concept of evil in his mind, and deliberately
introduced it into existence. The very personification of evil, 'Satan',

was

created by this 'God' of yours with a fore-knowledge of what kind of
depravity he would stoop to and unleash on mankind. But think about

*this*.

It is your 'God' who is the 'monster', not the 'scape-goat', Satan, who

had

no option whatsoever to 'refuse' his role. Just as 'God' supernaturally
intervened and made Pharaoh do something he did not really want to do in
Exodus 10:20, so too with 'Satan'.

God just made Pharaoh act like himself, which he may not have done because
of his innate respect for Moses.
What a sadistic fiend your 'God' is! And

need I bring up that disgustingly sadistic act of ordering Abraham to
'sacrifice' his son 'Isaac' as a 'burnt offering' up to his Godness?

Don't you remember? God stopped Abraham.
What in

the hell is wrong with your brain, dude?! Where in the hell is your head?!
Can't you see that this imagined 'God' of yours is 'evil' and *not*
'good'???


The supplier of life.



You mean for a day or two for 'crack babies' or babies so deformed at

birth

that they wish they had never been born? For the 'Elephant Man' (Joseph
Merrick)? Gee, what a precious 'gift' *he* got.

According to your beliefs, also the bringer of death.
(but, of course, you sneakily avoided mentioning that)

The giver of the state of immortality.


There's no such thing as immortality, in the sense that you mean it, so
nothing has given it.


There are lots of immortals in the world. People come back from the

dead

all the time. Don't tell me you haven't seen any of them!




You're living a life of delusion. Your beliefs have no basis in fact. And
when looking at the heinous 'acts' perpetrated by your beloved deity --

and

the absurdity involved (God is the son of God?

Who else could be God's only son besides God? A king gives birth to a
prince, you know.
-- A 'borrowed' phrase which

epitomizes how preposterous the claims for the existence of 'God' tend to
get.) One comes away dazed and nearly bowled-over by the irrationality and
senselessness of such a belief-system.

It's 'cuckoo' when one gives it unblinded scrutiny.

C'mon Mark! You're better than that.

Thank you, so are you.
.

User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 09:12:54 PM
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"Martin Phipps" <martinphipps2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:59 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Ever see a woman, who looks directly into your heart, and lays

everything

that you are before herself, and knows you perfectly?

Ever see into her eyes, as if she has been there in your life since

its

inception?

Do her words light a candle before you, and demonstrate everything

she

is

with a single, well intentioned glow?

That is a daiquiri.

The daiquiri is a female manifestation of the omnipresent God.


And what exactly is God in your definition?


The one who started it all, and who finishes it all.


Hey, you've finished it all, you greedy *****!

The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.



What an absolutely 'lame' response.

This is a perfect example of a theist trying to camoflauge the fact that
his 'God' is downright EVIL!

Look at what Smiler presented you with carefully. Savor it. Let it roll
all over your tongue like a fine wine. These 'gifts' of your 'God' to
mankind are beyond 'vile'. By introducing such unbelievable evil into the
world, your (imaginary) 'God' clearly shows how uncaring and malevolent he
truly is. Just as a husband who beats his wife to the point that she has
to be hospitalized on a regular basis and yet claims he 'loves' her; so
too a 'God' who is claimed to be a 'loving' God, yet consciously and
*deliberately* introduced eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic
plague, smallpox, diptheria, and a whole host of unspeakably horrific
diseases into existence -- when he clearly had the option *not* to. *That*
shows what kind of malevolent creature you worship. You cannot 'sugar
coat' the evil introduced into existence by your make-believe 'Love God',
nor account for such evil by offering up the explanation that such evil
serves to make life more 'interesting'. What a load of hooey! Your 'God'
is the most sadistic, cruel, and uncaring imaginary deity man has ever
'created'. The worst! Prove he's not.

Remember this: Before the universe even came into existence, your 'God'
conceived of the notion of it and what 'elements' it would be comprised
of. He thought of creating man and woman and introduced them into
existence. He rolled the idea of 'evil' -- (And where in the *hell* did
*that* idea, that *concept* of evil, come from? Great-grandpa 'God'?) --
around in his 'brain' for a spell and then consciously chose to afflict
man (and his perfectly created 'angels') with it like a an inoperable form
of cancer. Now tell me *that* is the act of a 'loving' God. Tell Smiler
that 'God's' creation of evil was for the sole purpose of making life for
man, more 'interesting'. Tell that to the survivors of the Holocaust, or
the slowly starving men, women, and children of Darfur! What a mindless
position to hold. You are living in a land of delusion. You are propping
up and trying to 'sell' a deity that is patently, morally reprehensible
and depraved. Thank *goodness* this creature of yours is entirely
make-believe! But that doesn't explain your irrational presentation of him
to us as some sort of paragon of virtue and the personification of all
that is 'Good'. What hog-wash! Your 'God' is EVIL. He conjured up the
concept of evil in his mind, and deliberately introduced it into
existence. The very personification of evil, 'Satan', was created by this
'God' of yours with a fore-knowledge of what kind of depravity he would
stoop to and unleash on mankind. But think about *this*. It is your 'God'
who is the 'monster', not the 'scape-goat', Satan, who had no option
whatsoever to 'refuse' his role. Just as 'God' supernaturally intervened
and made Pharaoh do something he did not really want to do in Exodus
10:20, so too with 'Satan'. What a sadistic fiend your 'God' is! And need
I bring up that disgustingly sadistic act of ordering Abraham to
'sacrifice' his son 'Isaac' as a 'burnt offering' up to his Godness? What
in the hell is wrong with your brain, dude?! Where in the hell is your
head?! Can't you see that this imagined 'God' of yours is 'evil' and *not*
'good'???


The supplier of life.



You mean for a day or two for 'crack babies' or babies so deformed at
birth that they wish they had never been born? For the 'Elephant Man'
(Joseph Merrick)? Gee, what a precious 'gift' *he* got.

According to your beliefs, also the bringer of death.
(but, of course, you sneakily avoided mentioning that)

The giver of the state of immortality.


There's no such thing as immortality, in the sense that you mean it, so
nothing has given it.


There are lots of immortals in the world. People come back from the dead
all the time. Don't tell me you haven't seen any of them!




You're living a life of delusion. Your beliefs have no basis in fact. And
when looking at the heinous 'acts' perpetrated by your beloved deity --
and the absurdity involved (God is the son of God? -- A 'borrowed' phrase
which epitomizes how preposterous the claims for the existence of 'God'
tend to get.) One comes away dazed and nearly bowled-over by the
irrationality and senselessness of such a belief-system.

It's 'cuckoo' when one gives it unblinded scrutiny.

C'mon Mark! You're better than that.

Greywolf

(My profuse apologies for 'butting-in' here, Smiler. Your points were well
made. I just can't take such irresponsible and nauseating inablilty of the
brainwashed to confront the truth such as is exhibited here, at times.
What in the hell are these people's heads? Existing in a vacuum?)

No problems about butting in.
I entirely agree with what you said, only I wouldn't have put it quite so
vehemently :-)
(your vehemence is understandable in your situation)
Smiler,
The godless one
.

User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 07:14:19 PM
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:58:03 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <12v5hrsh29mvva4@corp.supernews.com>
:

You're living a life of delusion. Your beliefs have no basis in fact. And
when looking at the heinous 'acts' perpetrated by your beloved deity -- and
the absurdity involved (God is the son of God? -- A 'borrowed' phrase which
epitomizes how preposterous the claims for the existence of 'God' tend to
get.) One comes away dazed and nearly bowled-over by the irrationality and
senselessness of such a belief-system.

It's 'cuckoo' when one gives it unblinded scrutiny.

C'mon Mark! You're better than that.

Greywolf

(My profuse apologies for 'butting-in' here, Smiler. Your points were well
made. I just can't take such irresponsible and nauseating inablilty of the
brainwashed to confront the truth such as is exhibited here, at times. What
in the hell are these people's heads? Existing in a vacuum?)

Mark Earnest is a rootin'-tootin' full canvas jacket nutcase.
--
.


User: "Steve O"

Title: Re: to see God 09 Mar 2007 11:54:15 PM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There are lots of immortals in the world.

No there aren't.
Not even a single one.
If you believe that there are without any evidence, you are totally
delusional.

People come back from the dead
all the time.

No they don't.
After you die, that's it.
You are dead.
Forever.
Get over it.

Don't tell me you haven't seen any of them!

No I haven't.
Have you?
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings" - anon.
"The Universe isn't about us." - Carl Sagan
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 12:04:34 AM
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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There are lots of immortals in the world.


No there aren't.
Not even a single one.
If you believe that there are without any evidence, you are totally
delusional.

I have plenty of evidence; you are the one without any. Time for you
to start checking things out.


People come back from the dead
all the time.


No they don't.
After you die, that's it.
You are dead.
Forever.
Get over it.

Don't tell me you haven't seen any of them!


No I haven't.
Have you?

Yes I have.
.


User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: to see God 09 Mar 2007 11:59:44 PM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.

Thank God for Satan, eh?

The supplier of life.


According to your beliefs, also the bringer of death.
(but, of course, you sneakily avoided mentioning that)

The giver of the state of immortality.


There's no such thing as immortality, in the sense that you mean it, so
nothing has given it.


There are lots of immortals in the world. People come back from the dead
all the time. Don't tell me you haven't seen any of them!

Bye, troll.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 12:05:29 AM
"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?

God uses the evil to benefit the good.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: to see God 12 Mar 2007 01:23:51 PM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote
snip


God uses the evil to benefit the good.

Keep tell yourself that, Chowderhead. Doesn't make it true.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.

User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 12:09:18 AM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in news:12v4il8cb4bci43
@corp.supernews.com:


"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?


God uses the evil to benefit the good.

Why not use good to benefit the good? That's one weak,stupid god you
have there, Mark.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
Thank God, under our Constitution there was no connection between Church
and State, and that in my action as President of the United States I
recognized no distinction of creeds in my appointments to office.
-- James K. Polk
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 12:17:20 AM
"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in news:12v4il8cb4bci43
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?


God uses the evil to benefit the good.


Why not use good to benefit the good?

He does that, too.
That's one weak,stupid god you

have there, Mark.

To use evil in the favor of good is pretty darned powerful.
.
User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 12:31:12 AM
"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in
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"Enkidu" <fox_rgfszx@trashmail.net> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in news:12v4il8cb4bci43
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearnest@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything
that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic
plague, smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?


God uses the evil to benefit the good.


Why not use good to benefit the good?


He does that, too.

Limited to what's on hand? Shows a lack of power to me.

That's one weak,stupid god you have there, Mark.


To use evil in the favor of good is pretty darned powerful.

Not so powerful as eliminating evil.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA

Faith, in the religious sense, means to place one's trust in an idea
irrespective of how little evidence there is to support it. It is to
suppress that part of the brain which filters fact from fiction, and to
chose fiction because it feels nicer.
- Alan J. Douglas 1942-2005
.

User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 03:16:56 AM
D'oh! On Mar 10, 6:17 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Enkidu" <fox_rgf...@trashmail.net> wrote in message

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"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:12v4il8cb4bci43
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"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic plague,
smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?


God uses the evil to benefit the good.


Why not use good to benefit the good?


He does that, too.

That's one weak,stupid god you

have there, Mark.


To use evil in the favor of good is pretty darned powerful.

If he was omnipotent, it wouldn't be necessary, indeed, with
omnipotence, there is no necessity.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 06:05:21 PM
"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote
in message news:1173518215.628133.89870@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

D'oh! On Mar 10, 6:17 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Enkidu" <fox_rgf...@trashmail.net> wrote in message

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"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:12v4il8cb4bci43
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"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic

plague,

smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?


God uses the evil to benefit the good.


Why not use good to benefit the good?


He does that, too.

That's one weak,stupid god you

have there, Mark.


To use evil in the favor of good is pretty darned powerful.


If he was omnipotent, it wouldn't be necessary, indeed, with
omnipotence, there is no necessity.

I'm not sure I quite follow you, here. With omnipotence, there is no
necessity for what exactly?
.
User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 09:03:08 PM
On Mar 11, 12:05 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote
in messagenews:1173518215.628133.89870@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...



D'oh! On Mar 10, 6:17 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Enkidu" <fox_rgf...@trashmail.net> wrote in message


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"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:12v4il8cb4bci43
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"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic

plague,

smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?


God uses the evil to benefit the good.


Why not use good to benefit the good?


He does that, too.


That's one weak,stupid god you


have there, Mark.


To use evil in the favor of good is pretty darned powerful.


If he was omnipotent, it wouldn't be necessary, indeed, with
omnipotence, there is no necessity.


I'm not sure I quite follow you, here. With omnipotence, there is no
necessity for what exactly?

Anything at all.
.
User: "Mark Earnest"

Title: Re: to see God 10 Mar 2007 09:25:09 PM
"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote
in message news:1173582188.808781.209130@j27g2000cwj.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 11, 12:05 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk>

wrote

in messagenews:1173518215.628133.89870@h3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...



D'oh! On Mar 10, 6:17 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Enkidu" <fox_rgf...@trashmail.net> wrote in message


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"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:12v4il8cb4bci43
@corp.supernews.com:


"Geoff" <geb...@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything

that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic

plague,

smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?


God uses the evil to benefit the good.


Why not use good to benefit the good?


He does that, too.


That's one weak,stupid god you


have there, Mark.


To use evil in the favor of good is pretty darned powerful.


If he was omnipotent, it wouldn't be necessary, indeed, with
omnipotence, there is no necessity.


I'm not sure I quite follow you, here. With omnipotence, there is no
necessity for what exactly?


Anything at all.

God still likes to do things the hard way, because there is much glory in
that.
.
User: "Andres64"

Title: Re: to see God 11 Mar 2007 01:55:24 AM
On Mar 10, 11:25 pm, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote
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On Mar 11, 12:05 am, "Mark Earnest" <gmearn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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The omnipresent, all wise, all good creator of everything

that

exists.


Including flesh eating bacteria, the HIV virus, the bubonic

plague,

smallpox, diptheria, etc., etc.
How's that 'good'?


Have you played any computer games lately?
There is always a demon in it trying to stop your progress.
It is part of life, and makes it interesting.


Thank God for Satan, eh?


God uses the evil to benefit the good.


Why not use good to benefit the good?


He does that, too.


That's one weak,stupid god you


have there, Mark.


To use evil in the favor of good is pretty darned powerful.


If he was omnipotent, it wouldn't be necessary, indeed, with
omnipotence, there is no necessity.


I'm not sure I quite follow you, here. With omnipotence, there is no
necessity for what exactly?


Anything at all.


God still likes to do things the hard way,

Nope. With omnipotence there is no "hard way". Try another excuse.
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