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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Gactimus" |
| Date: |
13 Sep 2004 01:24:48 PM |
| Object: |
To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it! You're offending some, but not all, of the people at the
Democratic Underground who want you to forget all about it.
Just read this sickening post called "To the citizens of Dirtsville USA:
Quit grieving for NYC............." and some of the posts after it and
you'll see how vile the left can be when they think their political agenda
is threatened...
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Joanne98: "Since tomorrow is the anniversary of the "excuse" the cowboy
uses to attack anybody he wants to. I'm bracing myself for the ongoing
images of people in small red state towns exploiting the victims of 9/11.
CNN is already showing people in small town Texas CRYING over New York
City's loses. Well, you know what. You never liked New Yorkers. You hated
New Yorkers remember. If you really cared about the victims of 9/11 you
would vote for John Kerry because that's the only thing they want you to
do. But NO! Instead you brought the Bush *****'s convention to ground
Zero and thought NYC would be glad to see you.
Instead of getting flowers and candy you got protesters, a half a million
of them that said. GO HOME. Do you remember the Evita song...DON'T CRY FOR
ME DIRTSVILLE TEXAS..........
Let's get this straight, Dirtsville, IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO YOU and it never
will because no self respecting terra-rist would ever attack something so
unimportant. It would be like the USA attacking Goatsgrave Yemen. It's
never going to happen.
The bottom line is, you don't care about NYC or the pain, all you care
about is getting Boosh re-elected and fighting a Holy pissing contest with
the darkie Muslims. All in the name of Jesus which you're sure is coming
back the day after tomorrow.
Nobody needs this sh*t, especially the people of NYC who still watch
airplanes when they fly overhead. The people in big cities are in more
danger than ever thanks to the cowboy's invasion of Iraq. But that's
something the good people of Dirtsville don't have to worry about.
So take your flags, your prayers, your rodeos and your country music and
stick it. You're waging war because you want too, because you like it and
you're not fooling anybody. You're only happy when you have an enemy, if it
wasn't 9/11 it would be something else. Like "libruls". At least have the
decency to admit that.
Put on your public grieving shows tomorrow because you already have them
planned but spare us the DRAMA next year. It didn't happen to you. Get over
it.
I know this is harsh and I know not all people in small rural towns are
Republicans but they ARE voting for Bush, who is only making big cities
more dangerous. This is how I feel about it. Flame away."
Sterling: "Here here. I'm from Oklahoma and places like that are full of
people who are causing most of the problems in the world. There are some
very good people in those places but they generally have little political
power."
sandnsea: "It "was". But the poster is right, it isn't anymore. Now it's
about waving the big hick d*ck and kicking @ss because that's what they
like to do. I don't know why they have no self esteem unless they're
putting somebody else down, but that's the way it is. The poster is exactly
right and if New York City doesn't want George Bush, maybe the rural people
who will never be hit by a terrorist attack ought to listen."
OnionPatch: "Hear Hear!!! I'm out here on the left coast and I've long
wondered why all these smalltown rednecks are so quick to get teared up
about 9-11 but insult people from the big cities every day. Remember the
anti-Howard Dean commercial that made fun of everyone who drinks latte and
drives a volvo? They hate New York. They're a bunch of phonies. The same as
their patriotism."
BiggJawn "Thank you. I was out in "Dirtsville Indiana" last weekend, and I
was mildly disgusted at the local volunteer firemen walking around the
festival in their beer guts and "FDNY" hats and "Never Forget" T-shirts
like they were some f*cking honorary members of FDNY or something.
Bet most of them never even been to a trailer fire.
Hey, shout-out and hugs to any NYC folks who still hurt, but you know what?
it didn't happen here. I'm sick of seeing the locals 1,000 miles away from
NYC here in the corn belt acting like they breathed the smoke or
something."
PROGRESSIVE1: "Here Here!!! As an East Coaster who is only an hour from
NYC... I thank you for this rant. Granted that good people do exist in
Middle America, there are many more who want to use our National Tradgedy
to hurt the world and to show their own "David Duke" Bigotry.
They can take their UNAMERICAN "Ku Klux Kountry Hate Music" and shove it!
All we here from the the middle of the country is how bad the coasts are.
If we are so bad and "immoral" than why do you care what happens to us?"
devinsgram: "You are right on the money. Could not have said it better. I
was thinking the same thing the other day. Everybody in middle American
crying, putting out their flags and their show of emotion. Phooey on them,
they are the ones responsible for what happened in NYC on 9-11. They are
the ones who put this idiot in office."
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
14 Sep 2004 10:28:45 AM |
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Zoogar, ruler of the Zerg wrote:
Keith E. wrote:
Tue, 14 Sep 2004 03:45:32 +0200 was a day just like any other,
until "Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:01:10 -0500, "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu>
New York
New York can rot in Hell.
That's redundant.
and New Yorkers are as ungrateful as hell.
Bush invaded two countries for what happened there and they hate him.
Fucked up in Afghanistan..which at least was supposed to have Bin laden
there...
Then fucked up in Iraq...which had nothing to do with 9/11....crazy.
they'd rather vote for some pervert who would do nothing at all.
Like Bush did before 9/11, despite the warnings he received is it ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 02:08:10 PM |
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Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "tgilb" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 05:19:19 PM |
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"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4145f04e$0$20248$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
| Gactimus wrote:
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| > Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
| > stop it!
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| Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
| did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
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| Jez
While'st slapping myself for responding to this troll I feel compelled to
say I don't understand why the emotion felt for the 3000 that died should be
diminished or even affected by the failure of the bush administration to do
their job.
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| User: "Guido" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 06:38:55 PM |
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It was Clinton's 8 years of failures, *****.
Besides, we now have a great opportunity to test our latest military
weapons and tactics on non-white, non-Christian people.
What more can you ask for ??? ***** THEM ALL !!!
YOU ***** !!!
"tgilb" <tgilb33@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4145f04e$0$20248$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
| Gactimus wrote:
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| > Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on
9/11,
| > stop it!
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| Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
| did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
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| --
| Jez
While'st slapping myself for responding to this troll I feel compelled to
say I don't understand why the emotion felt for the 3000 that died should
be
diminished or even affected by the failure of the bush administration to
do
their job.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 07:04:11 PM |
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"Guido" <unknown@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:41462f90$0$2646$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
It was Clinton's 8 years of failures, *****.
Besides, we now have a great opportunity to test our latest military
weapons and tactics on non-white, non-Christian people.
What more can you ask for ??? ***** THEM ALL !!!
YOU ***** !!!
You forgot to include a disclaimer for the sarcasm-impaired, Guido. <G>
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 05:40:40 PM |
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tgilb wrote:
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4145f04e$0$20248$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
| Gactimus wrote:
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| > Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
| > stop it!
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| Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
| did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
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| Jez
While'st slapping myself for responding to this troll I feel compelled to
say I don't understand why the emotion felt for the 3000 that died should be
diminished or even affected by the failure of the bush administration to do
their job.
Indeed not !!
They deserve our sympathy, and those that tried to help them deserve our
greatest respect..
The Fire-fighters and Police...and everyone else who helped on that
terrible day.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 02:50:57 PM |
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"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4145f04e$0$20248$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack, did
Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The following are all uncontroversial facts reported in the mainstream
media:
On or about Jan. 20th, 2001, as the Clinton administration transitioned
to the Bush, NSC chief Sandy Berger briefed Condi Rice extensively on the
terrorism threat posed by bin Laden, telling her she would be spending
more time on this threat than she ever imagined. At the Dept. of Defense,
William Cohen was performing the same courtesy for Don Rumsfeld, again
with a sharp reminder of the terrorist threat in the form of a hand-written
letter to Rumsfeld containing the phone numbers of people in the Pentagon
Rumsfeld needed to speak to directly on the subject. On Jan. 26th, the CIA
confirmed to the new Bush administration that bin Laden and Al Qaeda were
responsible for the attack on the U.S.S. Cole which killed 17 American
sailors.
The response of the Bush administration was to cease Predator drone
surveillance flights to track bin Laden, reassign the cruise-missile
equipped submarine stationed in the Indian Ocean with the specific mission
of targeting bin Laden, reassign the AC-130 gunships on scramble alert that
could be on top of bin Laden after a six hour flight, suspend the special
forces operations targeting bin Laden already based in Uzbekistan for the
purpose thanks to a treaty signed by Bill Clinton.
In May, June and July, the sole remaining Clinton appointee, CIA Director
Tenet, was frantic with concern over incoming intelligence indicating a huge
terrorist attack on American soil. Vice-President ***** Cheney was head
of a
new counter-terrorism task force, yet held no meetings. Attorney General
John Ashcroft refused FBI requests for hundreds of new agents to be assigned
to counter-terrorism; his concerns were drugs and pornography, yet in late
July he stopped flying commercial airliners due to a "threat assessment."
The general threat assessment was considered to be the most severe in
decades
according to CIA's Tenet; members of the Senate Intelligence Committee were
briefed on the situation on July 5th.
Also in July, an Arizona FBI agent wrote the 'Phoenix Memo,' expressing
concern about possible Al Qaeda members taking flying lessons in this
country towards the end of terrorist attacks. One of the two FBI officials
to see it before the attacks was New York counter-terrorism chief John
O'Neill; contemporaneous with the timing of this memo was O'Neill's remarks
to the authors of 'Bin Laden: The Hidden Truth,' wherein O'Neill expressed
his outrage with the Bush administration's thwarting of counter-terrorist
efforts in the interests of protecting its Saudi sponsors. John O'Neill
would soon quit the FBI in disgust, only to die at his new job as chief of
security at the WTC.
Also in July, the FAA rescinded the rule allowing airline pilots to be
armed,
a rule that had been in force since 1961.
August found George W. Bush 'vacationing' for the entire month in rural
Texas, while ***** Cheney similarly spent the month in rural Wyoming. On
August 1st actor James Woods as flying from Logan to Los Angeles, sharing
1st class with four Middle Eastern men, who ate nothing, drank nothing,
read nothing, nor slept the entire flight, only making occasional low
comments to one another. Woods remarked to the flight attendant that 'These
guys act like they're going to hijack the plane,' and once the plane landed
he repeated his concerns to the FAA. All four men were hijackers on Sept.
11th. On Aug. 6th, Bush himself was apparently finally briefed about the
specific threat of attacks on American soil. His vacation continued. On Aug.
17th, the Minneapolis FBI office arrested Zacarias Moussaoui, on the basis
of an expired student visa and very curious pilot training requests. FBI
field agents at this office were convinced of Moussaoui's intentions as a
terrorist, and repeatedly tried to obtain a FISA (Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act) warrant to search his computer. In early Sept., French
Intelligence informed both the CIA and the FBI that Moussaoui had Al Qaeda
connections. A FISA warrant remained ungranted against Moussaoui, even
though under Clinton and Janet Reno no FISA request had been refused.
As an interesting aside, before 9/11 Ashcroft was known to put in 3 1/2 day
work weeks at the Dept. of Justice. In the early months of the
administration,
FBI agents flew to Ashcroft's home in rural Missouri to obtain his signature
on a wire-tap for a terrorism investigation. Ashcroft was so displeased to
see the agents, he had them stand out in the cold while he sat in his pickup
to read and sign the documents.
On Sept. 4th, Cheney's counter-terrorism task force met for the first time.
According to the Pentagon's liaison for terrorism, Gen. Kerrik, Clinton's
had met almost weekly, but with Bush he "didn't see that same kind of
focus."
On Sept. 10, Diane Feinstein, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee
briefed on July 5th, asked ***** Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby when
the administration would start focusing on these terror threats which had
so pre-occupied CIA's Tenet, the most severe in decades - she was told it
would have to wait another six months.
So, obviously, it's all Clinton's fault.
Pre-9/11 And The Bush Administration. It's All Clinton's Fault, Right?
by Kent Southard
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| User: "Sneechres" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 11:14:52 PM |
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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in message news:<ci4tn1$ti0$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu>...
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4145f04e$0$20248$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack, did
Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The following are all uncontroversial facts reported in the mainstream
media:
On or about Jan. 20th, 2001, as the Clinton administration transitioned
to the Bush, NSC chief Sandy Berger briefed Condi Rice extensively on the
terrorism threat posed by bin Laden, telling her she would be spending
more time on this threat than she ever imagined.
Hm, is that the same Sandy Berger that was stuffing classified
documents from the National Archives into his underwear?
At the Dept. of Defense,
William Cohen was performing the same courtesy for Don Rumsfeld, again
with a sharp reminder of the terrorist threat in the form of a hand-written
letter to Rumsfeld containing the phone numbers of people in the Pentagon
Rumsfeld needed to speak to directly on the subject.
Hm, a handwritten letter in the form of a place, date, and time would
have been better.
--S
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| User: "Jez" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 03:12:14 PM |
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ouroboros rex wrote:
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4145f04e$0$20248$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack, did
Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The following are all uncontroversial facts reported in the mainstream
media:
On or about Jan. 20th, 2001, as the Clinton administration transitioned
to the Bush, NSC chief Sandy Berger briefed Condi Rice extensively on the
terrorism threat posed by bin Laden, telling her she would be spending
more time on this threat than she ever imagined. At the Dept. of Defense,
William Cohen was performing the same courtesy for Don Rumsfeld, again
with a sharp reminder of the terrorist threat in the form of a hand-written
letter to Rumsfeld containing the phone numbers of people in the Pentagon
Rumsfeld needed to speak to directly on the subject. On Jan. 26th, the CIA
confirmed to the new Bush administration that bin Laden and Al Qaeda were
responsible for the attack on the U.S.S. Cole which killed 17 American
sailors.
The response of the Bush administration was to cease Predator drone
surveillance flights to track bin Laden, reassign the cruise-missile
equipped submarine stationed in the Indian Ocean with the specific mission
of targeting bin Laden, reassign the AC-130 gunships on scramble alert that
could be on top of bin Laden after a six hour flight, suspend the special
forces operations targeting bin Laden already based in Uzbekistan for the
purpose thanks to a treaty signed by Bill Clinton.
In May, June and July, the sole remaining Clinton appointee, CIA Director
Tenet, was frantic with concern over incoming intelligence indicating a huge
terrorist attack on American soil. Vice-President ***** Cheney was head
of a
new counter-terrorism task force, yet held no meetings. Attorney General
John Ashcroft refused FBI requests for hundreds of new agents to be assigned
to counter-terrorism; his concerns were drugs and pornography, yet in late
July he stopped flying commercial airliners due to a "threat assessment."
The general threat assessment was considered to be the most severe in
decades
according to CIA's Tenet; members of the Senate Intelligence Committee were
briefed on the situation on July 5th.
Also in July, an Arizona FBI agent wrote the 'Phoenix Memo,' expressing
concern about possible Al Qaeda members taking flying lessons in this
country towards the end of terrorist attacks. One of the two FBI officials
to see it before the attacks was New York counter-terrorism chief John
O'Neill; contemporaneous with the timing of this memo was O'Neill's remarks
to the authors of 'Bin Laden: The Hidden Truth,' wherein O'Neill expressed
his outrage with the Bush administration's thwarting of counter-terrorist
efforts in the interests of protecting its Saudi sponsors. John O'Neill
would soon quit the FBI in disgust, only to die at his new job as chief of
security at the WTC.
Also in July, the FAA rescinded the rule allowing airline pilots to be
armed,
a rule that had been in force since 1961.
August found George W. Bush 'vacationing' for the entire month in rural
Texas, while ***** Cheney similarly spent the month in rural Wyoming. On
August 1st actor James Woods as flying from Logan to Los Angeles, sharing
1st class with four Middle Eastern men, who ate nothing, drank nothing,
read nothing, nor slept the entire flight, only making occasional low
comments to one another. Woods remarked to the flight attendant that 'These
guys act like they're going to hijack the plane,' and once the plane landed
he repeated his concerns to the FAA. All four men were hijackers on Sept.
11th. On Aug. 6th, Bush himself was apparently finally briefed about the
specific threat of attacks on American soil. His vacation continued. On Aug.
17th, the Minneapolis FBI office arrested Zacarias Moussaoui, on the basis
of an expired student visa and very curious pilot training requests. FBI
field agents at this office were convinced of Moussaoui's intentions as a
terrorist, and repeatedly tried to obtain a FISA (Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act) warrant to search his computer. In early Sept., French
Intelligence informed both the CIA and the FBI that Moussaoui had Al Qaeda
connections. A FISA warrant remained ungranted against Moussaoui, even
though under Clinton and Janet Reno no FISA request had been refused.
As an interesting aside, before 9/11 Ashcroft was known to put in 3 1/2 day
work weeks at the Dept. of Justice. In the early months of the
administration,
FBI agents flew to Ashcroft's home in rural Missouri to obtain his signature
on a wire-tap for a terrorism investigation. Ashcroft was so displeased to
see the agents, he had them stand out in the cold while he sat in his pickup
to read and sign the documents.
On Sept. 4th, Cheney's counter-terrorism task force met for the first time.
According to the Pentagon's liaison for terrorism, Gen. Kerrik, Clinton's
had met almost weekly, but with Bush he "didn't see that same kind of
focus."
On Sept. 10, Diane Feinstein, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee
briefed on July 5th, asked ***** Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby when
the administration would start focusing on these terror threats which had
so pre-occupied CIA's Tenet, the most severe in decades - she was told it
would have to wait another six months.
So, obviously, it's all Clinton's fault.
Pre-9/11 And The Bush Administration. It's All Clinton's Fault, Right?
Hehe...well of course....even the current hurricanes are Clintons fault
man !
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype callto://hellward
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| User: "Douglas D. Anderson" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 07:43:55 PM |
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"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote
ouroboros rex wrote:
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:4145f04e$0$20248$cc9e4d1f@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack, did
Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The following are all uncontroversial facts reported in the mainstream
media:
On or about Jan. 20th, 2001, as the Clinton administration transitioned
to the Bush, NSC chief Sandy Berger briefed Condi Rice extensively on the
terrorism threat posed by bin Laden, telling her she would be spending
more time on this threat than she ever imagined. At the Dept. of Defense,
William Cohen was performing the same courtesy for Don Rumsfeld, again
with a sharp reminder of the terrorist threat in the form of a hand-written
letter to Rumsfeld containing the phone numbers of people in the Pentagon
Rumsfeld needed to speak to directly on the subject. On Jan. 26th, the CIA
confirmed to the new Bush administration that bin Laden and Al Qaeda were
responsible for the attack on the U.S.S. Cole which killed 17 American
sailors.
The response of the Bush administration was to cease Predator drone
surveillance flights to track bin Laden, reassign the cruise-missile
equipped submarine stationed in the Indian Ocean with the specific mission
of targeting bin Laden, reassign the AC-130 gunships on scramble alert that
could be on top of bin Laden after a six hour flight, suspend the special
forces operations targeting bin Laden already based in Uzbekistan for the
purpose thanks to a treaty signed by Bill Clinton.
In May, June and July, the sole remaining Clinton appointee, CIA Director
Tenet, was frantic with concern over incoming intelligence indicating a huge
terrorist attack on American soil. Vice-President ***** Cheney was head
of a
new counter-terrorism task force, yet held no meetings. Attorney General
John Ashcroft refused FBI requests for hundreds of new agents to be assigned
to counter-terrorism; his concerns were drugs and pornography, yet in late
July he stopped flying commercial airliners due to a "threat assessment."
The general threat assessment was considered to be the most severe in
decades
according to CIA's Tenet; members of the Senate Intelligence Committee were
briefed on the situation on July 5th.
Also in July, an Arizona FBI agent wrote the 'Phoenix Memo,' expressing
concern about possible Al Qaeda members taking flying lessons in this
country towards the end of terrorist attacks. One of the two FBI officials
to see it before the attacks was New York counter-terrorism chief John
O'Neill; contemporaneous with the timing of this memo was O'Neill's remarks
to the authors of 'Bin Laden: The Hidden Truth,' wherein O'Neill expressed
his outrage with the Bush administration's thwarting of counter-terrorist
efforts in the interests of protecting its Saudi sponsors. John O'Neill
would soon quit the FBI in disgust, only to die at his new job as chief of
security at the WTC.
Also in July, the FAA rescinded the rule allowing airline pilots to be
armed,
a rule that had been in force since 1961.
August found George W. Bush 'vacationing' for the entire month in rural
Texas, while ***** Cheney similarly spent the month in rural Wyoming. On
August 1st actor James Woods as flying from Logan to Los Angeles, sharing
1st class with four Middle Eastern men, who ate nothing, drank nothing,
read nothing, nor slept the entire flight, only making occasional low
comments to one another. Woods remarked to the flight attendant that 'These
guys act like they're going to hijack the plane,' and once the plane landed
he repeated his concerns to the FAA. All four men were hijackers on Sept.
11th. On Aug. 6th, Bush himself was apparently finally briefed about the
specific threat of attacks on American soil. His vacation continued. On Aug.
17th, the Minneapolis FBI office arrested Zacarias Moussaoui, on the basis
of an expired student visa and very curious pilot training requests. FBI
field agents at this office were convinced of Moussaoui's intentions as a
terrorist, and repeatedly tried to obtain a FISA (Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act) warrant to search his computer. In early Sept., French
Intelligence informed both the CIA and the FBI that Moussaoui had Al Qaeda
connections. A FISA warrant remained ungranted against Moussaoui, even
though under Clinton and Janet Reno no FISA request had been refused.
As an interesting aside, before 9/11 Ashcroft was known to put in 3 1/2 day
work weeks at the Dept. of Justice. In the early months of the
administration,
FBI agents flew to Ashcroft's home in rural Missouri to obtain his signature
on a wire-tap for a terrorism investigation. Ashcroft was so displeased to
see the agents, he had them stand out in the cold while he sat in his pickup
to read and sign the documents.
On Sept. 4th, Cheney's counter-terrorism task force met for the first time.
According to the Pentagon's liaison for terrorism, Gen. Kerrik, Clinton's
had met almost weekly, but with Bush he "didn't see that same kind of
focus."
On Sept. 10, Diane Feinstein, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee
briefed on July 5th, asked ***** Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby when
the administration would start focusing on these terror threats which had
so pre-occupied CIA's Tenet, the most severe in decades - she was told it
would have to wait another six months.
So, obviously, it's all Clinton's fault.
Pre-9/11 And The Bush Administration. It's All Clinton's Fault, Right?
Hehe...well of course....even the current hurricanes are Clintons fault
man !
There is a saying that a hurricane begins when a butterfly in Africa
flutters its wings...imagine what a ***** in the Oval Office can do!
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
Skype callto://hellward
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Jez wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on
9/11, stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
"Gawd" told him to.
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13 Sep 2004 03:17:14 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
on your sanity.
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13 Sep 2004 04:05:09 PM |
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"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
on your sanity.
Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined to
attack" was "historical". roflmao
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| User: "jimpgh2002" |
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13 Sep 2004 04:19:56 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:05:09 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
<c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on 9/11,
stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
on your sanity.
Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined to
attack" was "historical". roflmao
So you think it's funny that all those people got killed?
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| User: "ur_droll" |
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13 Sep 2004 05:29:18 PM |
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"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:km3ck01l5id4vlcraaepk203gqpt9tsgvf@4ax.com...
: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:05:09 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
: <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
:
: >
: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
: >> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
: >> <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
: >>
: >>>Gactimus wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on
9/11,
: >>>> stop it!
: >>>
: >>>Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
: >>>did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
: >>
: >> The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
: >> on your sanity.
: >
: > Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined to
: >attack" was "historical". roflmao
: >
: So you think it's funny that all those people got killed?
Hell yes
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16 Sep 2004 06:16:05 AM |
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"ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co> wrote in message
news:ccp1d.2166$JQ4.141003@news.xtra.co.nz...
"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:km3ck01l5id4vlcraaepk203gqpt9tsgvf@4ax.com...
: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:05:09 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
: <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
:
: >
: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
: >> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
: >> <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
: >>
: >>>Gactimus wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on
9/11,
: >>>> stop it!
: >>>
: >>>Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
attack,
: >>>did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
: >>
: >> The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
: >> on your sanity.
: >
: > Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined to
: >attack" was "historical". roflmao
: >
: So you think it's funny that all those people got killed?
Hell yes
you'll burn in hell kiwi.
CARDINAL: "I have good news and bad news, Your Holiness."
POPE: "What is the good news?"
CARDINAL: "Satan died today."
POPE: "What is the bad news?"
CARDINAL: "We are out of business.!"
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13 Sep 2004 07:23:41 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:29:18 +1200, "ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co>
wrote:
"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:km3ck01l5id4vlcraaepk203gqpt9tsgvf@4ax.com...
: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:05:09 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
: <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
:
: >
: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
: >> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
: >> <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
: >>
: >>>Gactimus wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on
9/11,
: >>>> stop it!
: >>>
: >>>Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda attack,
: >>>did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
: >>
: >> The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
: >> on your sanity.
: >
: > Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined to
: >attack" was "historical". roflmao
: >
: So you think it's funny that all those people got killed?
Hell yes
Then you are a fool, plain and simple.
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14 Sep 2004 02:47:53 AM |
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"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sfeck09ivfbuhk2qarg06e8hipt4ndgj9s@4ax.com...
: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:29:18 +1200, "ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >news:km3ck01l5id4vlcraaepk203gqpt9tsgvf@4ax.com...
: >: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:05:09 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
: >: <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >:
: >: >
: >: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >: >news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
: >: >> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
: >: >> <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
: >: >>
: >: >>>Gactimus wrote:
: >: >>>
: >: >>>> Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on
: >9/11,
: >: >>>> stop it!
: >: >>>
: >: >>>Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
attack,
: >: >>>did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
: >: >>
: >: >> The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
: >: >> on your sanity.
: >: >
: >: > Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined to
: >: >attack" was "historical". roflmao
: >: >
: >: So you think it's funny that all those people got killed?
: >
: >Hell yes
: >
: Then you are a fool, plain and simple.
I'd like to see more.... where do you live?
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16 Sep 2004 06:17:18 AM |
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"ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co> wrote in message
news:Dnx1d.2344$JQ4.164804@news.xtra.co.nz...
"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sfeck09ivfbuhk2qarg06e8hipt4ndgj9s@4ax.com...
: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:29:18 +1200, "ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >news:km3ck01l5id4vlcraaepk203gqpt9tsgvf@4ax.com...
: >: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:05:09 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
: >: <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >:
: >: >
: >: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >: >news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
: >: >> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
: >: >> <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
: >: >>
: >: >>>Gactimus wrote:
: >: >>>
: >: >>>> Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died
on
: >9/11,
: >: >>>> stop it!
: >: >>>
: >: >>>Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
attack,
: >: >>>did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
: >: >>
: >: >> The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
: >: >> on your sanity.
: >: >
: >: > Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined
to
: >: >attack" was "historical". roflmao
: >: >
: >: So you think it's funny that all those people got killed?
: >
: >Hell yes
: >
: Then you are a fool, plain and simple.
I'd like to see more.... where do you live?
in a house kiwi and not under a rock like you live.
A businessman from Wisconsin went on a business trip to Louisiana.
Upon arrival, he immediately plugged his laptop into the hotel room port
and sent a short E-mail back home to his wife, Jennifer Johnson, at her
address, JennJohn@world.net.
Unfortunately, in his haste, he mistyped a letter and the E-mail ended
up going to JeanJohn@world.net, a Jean Johnson in Duluth, the wife of a
preacher who had just passed away and was buried that day. The
preacher's wife took one look at the E-mail and promptly fainted.
It read, "Arrived safely, but it sure is hot down here!"
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14 Sep 2004 08:29:56 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:47:53 +1200, "ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co>
wrote:
"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:sfeck09ivfbuhk2qarg06e8hipt4ndgj9s@4ax.com...
: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:29:18 +1200, "ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >news:km3ck01l5id4vlcraaepk203gqpt9tsgvf@4ax.com...
: >: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:05:09 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
: >: <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >:
: >: >
: >: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >: >news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
: >: >> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
: >: >> <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
: >: >>
: >: >>>Gactimus wrote:
: >: >>>
: >: >>>> Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died on
: >9/11,
: >: >>>> stop it!
: >: >>>
: >: >>>Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
attack,
: >: >>>did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
: >: >>
: >: >> The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
: >: >> on your sanity.
: >: >
: >: > Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined to
: >: >attack" was "historical". roflmao
: >: >
: >: So you think it's funny that all those people got killed?
: >
: >Hell yes
: >
: Then you are a fool, plain and simple.
I'd like to see more.... where do you live?
If you want to see more, look in a mirror.
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
14 Sep 2004 01:34:35 PM |
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"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uhsdk0d82r8c7so2vre4c6kdtbq5o9qgeo@4ax.com...
: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 19:47:53 +1200, "ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co>
: wrote:
:
: >
: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >news:sfeck09ivfbuhk2qarg06e8hipt4ndgj9s@4ax.com...
: >: On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 10:29:18 +1200, "ur_droll" <who.gives@*****.co>
: >: wrote:
: >:
: >: >
: >: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >: >news:km3ck01l5id4vlcraaepk203gqpt9tsgvf@4ax.com...
: >: >: On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 16:05:09 -0500, "ouroboros rex"
: >: >: <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote:
: >: >:
: >: >: >
: >: >: >"jimpgh2002" <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
: >: >: >news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com...
: >: >: >> On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
: >: >: >> <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
: >: >: >>
: >: >: >>>Gactimus wrote:
: >: >: >>>
: >: >: >>>> Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died
on
: >: >9/11,
: >: >: >>>> stop it!
: >: >: >>>
: >: >: >>>Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
: >attack,
: >: >: >>>did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
: >: >: >>
: >: >: >> The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts doubt
: >: >: >> on your sanity.
: >: >: >
: >: >: > Why? It all happened, Mr. Security thought "Bin Laden determined
to
: >: >: >attack" was "historical". roflmao
: >: >: >
: >: >: So you think it's funny that all those people got killed?
: >: >
: >: >Hell yes
: >: >
: >: Then you are a fool, plain and simple.
: >
: >I'd like to see more.... where do you live?
: >
: If you want to see more, look in a mirror.
No.... you don't understand..... I want to see you die
where do you live?
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13 Sep 2004 06:29:18 PM |
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Quoth jimpgh2002 <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> in
news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died
on 9/11, stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
attack, did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts
doubt on your sanity.
The mere fact that you would question someone's sanity for asking a
perfectly reasonable question casts doubt on your patriotism.
Is it now "insane" for a citizen of the United States to question the
behavior and performance of his employee, the President of the United
States?
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who votes for George W. Bush.
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
13 Sep 2004 07:22:11 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:29:18 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:
Quoth jimpgh2002 <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> in
news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who died
on 9/11, stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
attack, did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts
doubt on your sanity.
The mere fact that you would question someone's sanity for asking a
perfectly reasonable question casts doubt on your patriotism.
Is it now "insane" for a citizen of the United States to question the
behavior and performance of his employee, the President of the United
States?
No, but it's crazy to think a President would not be concerned
about an imminent attack on the USA.
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13 Sep 2004 08:12:49 PM |
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Quoth jimpgh2002 <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> in
news:haeck0ds3jahn30huv11hco8f2uue24402@4ax.com:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:29:18 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:
Quoth jimpgh2002 <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> in
news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who
died on 9/11, stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
attack, did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts
doubt on your sanity.
The mere fact that you would question someone's sanity for
asking a perfectly reasonable question casts doubt on your
patriotism.
Is it now "insane" for a citizen of the United States to
question the behavior and performance of his employee, the
President of the United States?
No, but it's crazy to think a President would not be
concerned about an imminent attack on the USA.
The facts are the facts. Bush was warned over and over again
before the attacks about al Quaeda's intentions. His reaction
to the warnings was to dismiss them.
As Ouroboros wrote:
The following are all uncontroversial facts reported in the mainstream
media:
On or about Jan. 20th, 2001, as the Clinton administration transitioned
to the Bush, NSC chief Sandy Berger briefed Condi Rice extensively on the
terrorism threat posed by bin Laden, telling her she would be spending
more time on this threat than she ever imagined. At the Dept. of Defense,
William Cohen was performing the same courtesy for Don Rumsfeld, again
with a sharp reminder of the terrorist threat in the form of a hand-written
letter to Rumsfeld containing the phone numbers of people in the Pentagon
Rumsfeld needed to speak to directly on the subject. On Jan. 26th, the CIA
confirmed to the new Bush administration that bin Laden and Al Qaeda were
responsible for the attack on the U.S.S. Cole which killed 17 American
sailors.
The response of the Bush administration was to cease Predator drone
surveillance flights to track bin Laden, reassign the cruise-missile
equipped submarine stationed in the Indian Ocean with the specific mission
of targeting bin Laden, reassign the AC-130 gunships on scramble alert that
could be on top of bin Laden after a six hour flight, suspend the special
forces operations targeting bin Laden already based in Uzbekistan for the
purpose thanks to a treaty signed by Bill Clinton.
In May, June and July, the sole remaining Clinton appointee, CIA Director
Tenet, was frantic with concern over incoming intelligence indicating a huge
terrorist attack on American soil. Vice-President ***** Cheney was head
of a new counter-terrorism task force, yet held no meetings. Attorney General
John Ashcroft refused FBI requests for hundreds of new agents to be assigned
to counter-terrorism; his concerns were drugs and pornography, yet in late
July he stopped flying commercial airliners due to a "threat assessment."
The general threat assessment was considered to be the most severe in
decades according to CIA's Tenet; members of the Senate Intelligence Committee
were briefed on the situation on July 5th.
Also in July, an Arizona FBI agent wrote the 'Phoenix Memo,' expressing
concern about possible Al Qaeda members taking flying lessons in this
country towards the end of terrorist attacks. One of the two FBI officials
to see it before the attacks was New York counter-terrorism chief John
O'Neill; contemporaneous with the timing of this memo was O'Neill's remarks
to the authors of 'Bin Laden: The Hidden Truth,' wherein O'Neill expressed
his outrage with the Bush administration's thwarting of counter-terrorist
efforts in the interests of protecting its Saudi sponsors. John O'Neill
would soon quit the FBI in disgust, only to die at his new job as chief of
security at the WTC.
Also in July, the FAA rescinded the rule allowing airline pilots to be
armed, a rule that had been in force since 1961.
August found George W. Bush 'vacationing' for the entire month in rural
Texas, while ***** Cheney similarly spent the month in rural Wyoming. On
August 1st actor James Woods as flying from Logan to Los Angeles, sharing
1st class with four Middle Eastern men, who ate nothing, drank nothing,
read nothing, nor slept the entire flight, only making occasional low
comments to one another. Woods remarked to the flight attendant that 'These
guys act like they're going to hijack the plane,' and once the plane landed
he repeated his concerns to the FAA. All four men were hijackers on Sept.
11th. On Aug. 6th, Bush himself was apparently finally briefed about the
specific threat of attacks on American soil. His vacation continued. On Aug.
17th, the Minneapolis FBI office arrested Zacarias Moussaoui, on the basis
of an expired student visa and very curious pilot training requests. FBI
field agents at this office were convinced of Moussaoui's intentions as a
terrorist, and repeatedly tried to obtain a FISA (Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act) warrant to search his computer. In early Sept., French
Intelligence informed both the CIA and the FBI that Moussaoui had Al Qaeda
connections. A FISA warrant remained ungranted against Moussaoui, even
though under Clinton and Janet Reno no FISA request had been refused.
As an interesting aside, before 9/11 Ashcroft was known to put in 3 1/2 day
work weeks at the Dept. of Justice. In the early months of the
administration, FBI agents flew to Ashcroft's home in rural Missouri to obtain
his signature on a wire-tap for a terrorism investigation. Ashcroft was so
displeased to see the agents, he had them stand out in the cold while he sat
in his pickup to read and sign the documents.
On Sept. 4th, Cheney's counter-terrorism task force met for the first time.
According to the Pentagon's liaison for terrorism, Gen. Kerrik, Clinton's
had met almost weekly, but with Bush he "didn't see that same kind of
focus."
On Sept. 10, Diane Feinstein, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee
briefed on July 5th, asked ***** Cheney's chief of staff Scooter Libby when
the administration would start focusing on these terror threats which had
so pre-occupied CIA's Tenet, the most severe in decades - she was told it
would have to wait another six months.
[ end quote ]
Why did Bush ignore all the warnings? Why did he shut down the
anti-terror programs, particularly those focussed in al Quaeda,
that Clinton had instituted?
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George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who votes for George W. Bush.
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13 Sep 2004 09:00:59 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:12:49 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:
Quoth jimpgh2002 <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> in
news:haeck0ds3jahn30huv11hco8f2uue24402@4ax.com:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 23:29:18 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote:
Quoth jimpgh2002 <jimpgh2002@nospamyahoo.com> in
news:a10ck0dosuhootc1anr0e3679jejd5jucv@4ax.com:
On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 20:08:10 +0100, Jez
<iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote:
Gactimus wrote:
Hey all you hicks out there who care about the people who
died on 9/11, stop it!
Why, after receiving many warnings about an impending Al-Queda
attack, did Bush ignore them, and go on vacation ?
The mere fact that you would ask such a question casts
doubt on your sanity.
The mere fact that you would question someone's sanity for
asking a perfectly reasonable question casts doubt on your
patriotism.
Is it now "insane" for a citizen of the United States to
question the behavior and performance of his employee, the
President of the United States?
No, but it's crazy to think a President would not be
concerned about an imminent attack on the USA.
The facts are the facts. Bush was warned over and over again
before the attacks about al Quaeda's intentions. His reaction
to the warnings was to dismiss them.
There were and are all kinds of "warnings" about lots of
things. 99.9% of them are wrong. If you want to make an issue of the
whole mess, blaim Clinton for not rounding up BL when he had the
chance.
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| User: "Mel" |
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13 Sep 2004 10:58:27 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:12:49 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
wrote in message <Xns9563D7CB9D2A7greenriverordinance@166.84.1.69>:
Bush was warned over and over again
before the attacks about al Quaeda's intentions. His reaction
to the warnings was to dismiss them.
that's fair enough.
btw Saddam promised Bush the Mother of all battles. Comical Ali informed the
world that the infidel invaders were being driven out.
so why should anyone take OBL seriously when he huffs and puffs?
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
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17 Sep 2004 05:49:49 PM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.fag.com> wrote in message
news:jhkck0dkh78utv42tpgbh4ifj2vbjpm872@4ax.com...
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:12:49 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com>
wrote in message <Xns9563D7CB9D2A7greenriverordinance@166.84.1.69>:
Bush was warned over and over again
before the attacks about al Quaeda's intentions. His reaction
to the warnings was to dismiss them.
that's fair enough.
in your warped ***** mind it might be fag boy.
btw Saddam promised Bush the Mother of all battles. Comical Ali informed
the
world that the infidel invaders were being driven out.
and you went and cried to your skanky mommy fag boy.
so why should anyone take OBL seriously when he huffs and puffs?
who'd want to take you seriosly about anything fag boy.
At one point during a game, the coach said to one of his young
players,
"Do you understand what cooperation is? What a team is?"
The little boy nodded in the affirmative.
"Do you understand that what matters is whether we win together
as a team?"
The little boy nodded yes.
"So," the coach continued, "when a strike is called, or you're out at
first, you don't argue or curse or attack the umpire. Do you
understand all that?"
Again the little boy nodded.
"Good," said the coach. "Now go over there and explain it to your
mother."
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfag.com
http://www.atjfag.com/
Fag Town news
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| User: "Tom Betz" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
15 Sep 2004 10:26:09 AM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in
news:jhkck0dkh78utv42tpgbh4ifj2vbjpm872@4ax.com:
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:12:49 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com> wrote in message
<Xns9563D7CB9D2A7greenriverordinance@166.84.1.69>:
Bush was warned over and over again
before the attacks about al Quaeda's intentions. His reaction
to the warnings was to dismiss them.
that's fair enough.
so why should anyone take OBL seriously when he huffs and puffs?
Because, unlike Saddam, who never attacked the US or its citizens, OBL
had actually succeeded in several attacks on US military and civilian
targets. It wasn't until after Bush became President that both the CIA
and FBI agreed that bin Laden was behind the Cole attack, but Bush did
nothing with the information.
--
George Bush's War of Choice on Iraq is a totally unnecessary war.
Every life lost, every limb lost, every disfigurement, every
disability caused there is more blood on George W. Bush's hands,
and on the hands of everyone who votes for George W. Bush.
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| User: "Mel" |
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| Title: Re: To The Citizens Of Dirtsville USA: Quit Grieving For NYC |
15 Sep 2004 11:43:08 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:26:09 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz <spammers_lie@pobox.com>
wrote in message <Xns956574551228Egreenriverordinance@166.84.1.69>:
"Mel" <mel@atj.faq.com> wrote in
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:12:49 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
Bush was warned over and over again
before the attacks about al Quaeda's intentions. His reaction
to the warnings was to dismiss them.
that's fair enough.
so why should anyone take OBL seriously when he huffs and puffs?
Because, unlike Saddam, who never attacked the US or its citizens, OBL
had actually succeeded in several attacks on US military and civilian
targets. It wasn't until after Bush became President that both the CIA
and FBI agreed that bin Laden was behind the Cole attack, but Bush did
nothing with the information.
and when Bush does do something, yer unhappy.
*****.
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfaq.com
http://www.atjfaq.com/
Cape Town news
http://adderleystreet.co.za/capetown/
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| User: "GP of ATJ" |
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17 Sep 2004 07:54:36 AM |
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"Mel" <mel@atj.fag.com> wrote in message
news:5d5ik0td73g0rejva027u53h5gsq1f7kf0@4ax.com...
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 15:26:09 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
<spammers_lie@pobox.com>
wrote in message <Xns956574551228Egreenriverordinance@166.84.1.69>:
"Mel" <mel@atj.fag.com> wrote in
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 01:12:49 +0000 (UTC), Tom Betz
Bush was warned over and over again
before the attacks about al Quaeda's intentions. His reaction
to the warnings was to dismiss them.
that's fair enough.
so why should anyone take OBL seriously when he huffs and puffs?
Because, unlike Saddam, who never attacked the US or its citizens, OBL
had actually succeeded in several attacks on US military and civilian
targets. It wasn't until after Bush became President that both the CIA
and FBI agreed that bin Laden was behind the Cole attack, but Bush did
nothing with the information.
and when Bush does do something, yer unhappy.
*****.
you're gonna cry again like a little girly fag boy.
A girl is about to tie the knot, and is watching her mother bake biscuits in
the kitchen. "Mom?" she asks, "How do you keep Dad so happy after all these
years of marriage?"
The mother promptly throws a wad of biscuit dough on the floor, hikes up her
dress, squats down, picking the dough up with her snatch. "Practice this
and
when you can do it, I'll guarantee that your man will be satisfied for the
rest of his life," said her mother.
So the girl practised and practised until her wedding night. While her
anxious husband waited for her in the bed, she emerged wearing a sexy
negligee, carrying a can of biscuit dough. She opened the can, threw the
dough on the floor, lifted her negligee, and squatted over the dough.
Expecting to only pick up the biscuit she had a very unexpected episode of
gas, which made a thunderous growling sound.
Her husband, startled, jumped from the bed and backed away.
"What's wrong honey?" she asked.
He replied, "*****, woman!" as he stepped further away. "If that thing barks
like that for a biscuit, I sure as hell don't want to throw any meat at it!"
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smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself
Mel the Defiler
member, ATJ regs
webmaster of atjfag.com
http://www.atjfag.com/
Fag Town news
http://adderleystreet.co.za/capetown/
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