Religions > Atheism > to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument
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19 Jan 2007 10:35:05 AM |
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to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
19 Jan 2007 11:06:52 AM |
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<Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
I forgot to mention that you do not hold the keys to death and hell
so you cannot control who gets thrown into the "eternal lake of fire".
Secondly, salvation is not for sale, it is a free gift from God.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
19 Jan 2007 04:33:30 PM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
I forgot to mention that you do not hold the keys to death and hell
so you cannot control who gets thrown into the "eternal lake of fire".
But since Pascal's wager is used by theists, to convince atheists who don't
believe in a lake of fire that there really is a lake of fire, we figured it
could be used to convince you.
Maybe even you're too smart to fall for the lies of your own religion?
Nahhh.
Secondly, salvation is not for sale, it is a free gift from God.
That's not the salvation he's talking about. He's talking about another
different lake of fire that $600.00 can save you from. If you think the
threat of a lake of fire should be convincing to atheists, why isn't the
threat of a lake of fire convincing to you?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
19 Jan 2007 09:32:16 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
I forgot to mention that you do not hold the keys to death and hell
so you cannot control who gets thrown into the "eternal lake of fire".
But since Pascal's wager is used by theists, to convince atheists who
don't believe in a lake of fire that there really is a lake of fire, we
figured it could be used to convince you.
Maybe even you're too smart to fall for the lies of your own religion?
Nahhh.
Secondly, salvation is not for sale, it is a free gift from God.
That's not the salvation he's talking about. He's talking about another
different lake of fire that $600.00 can save you from. If you think the
threat of a lake of fire should be convincing to atheists, why isn't the
threat of a lake of fire convincing to you?
I have no fear of any such "lake of fire" because my home is in heaven.
Only those who have rejected Christ need have any fears.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
19 Jan 2007 11:37:36 PM |
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G-Net wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
I forgot to mention that you do not hold the keys to death and hell
so you cannot control who gets thrown into the "eternal lake of fire".
But since Pascal's wager is used by theists, to convince atheists who
don't believe in a lake of fire that there really is a lake of fire, we
figured it could be used to convince you.
Maybe even you're too smart to fall for the lies of your own religion?
Nahhh.
Secondly, salvation is not for sale, it is a free gift from God.
That's not the salvation he's talking about. He's talking about another
different lake of fire that $600.00 can save you from. If you think the
threat of a lake of fire should be convincing to atheists, why isn't the
threat of a lake of fire convincing to you?
I have no fear of any such "lake of fire" because my home is in heaven.
Only those who have rejected Christ need have any fears.
Funny. So your "loving god" is currently sending roughly two-thirds of
the world population to this "lake of fire" of yours. Funny, in a very
disgusting way.
And if you take comfort in that, you're a seriously disturbed
individual.
Olrik
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
22 Jan 2007 08:42:58 AM |
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"Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
I forgot to mention that you do not hold the keys to death and hell
so you cannot control who gets thrown into the "eternal lake of fire".
But since Pascal's wager is used by theists, to convince atheists who
don't believe in a lake of fire that there really is a lake of fire, we
figured it could be used to convince you.
Maybe even you're too smart to fall for the lies of your own religion?
Nahhh.
Secondly, salvation is not for sale, it is a free gift from God.
That's not the salvation he's talking about. He's talking about another
different lake of fire that $600.00 can save you from. If you think the
threat of a lake of fire should be convincing to atheists, why isn't
the
threat of a lake of fire convincing to you?
I have no fear of any such "lake of fire" because my home is in heaven.
Only those who have rejected Christ need have any fears.
Funny. So your "loving god" is currently sending roughly two-thirds of
the world population to this "lake of fire" of yours. Funny, in a very
disgusting way.
And if you take comfort in that, you're a seriously disturbed
individual.
Olrik
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
22 Jan 2007 10:09:20 PM |
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G-Net wrote:
"Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
I forgot to mention that you do not hold the keys to death and hell
so you cannot control who gets thrown into the "eternal lake of fire".
But since Pascal's wager is used by theists, to convince atheists who
don't believe in a lake of fire that there really is a lake of fire, we
figured it could be used to convince you.
Maybe even you're too smart to fall for the lies of your own religion?
Nahhh.
Secondly, salvation is not for sale, it is a free gift from God.
That's not the salvation he's talking about. He's talking about another
different lake of fire that $600.00 can save you from. If you think the
threat of a lake of fire should be convincing to atheists, why isn't
the
threat of a lake of fire convincing to you?
I have no fear of any such "lake of fire" because my home is in heaven.
Only those who have rejected Christ need have any fears.
Funny. So your "loving god" is currently sending roughly two-thirds of
the world population to this "lake of fire" of yours. Funny, in a very
disgusting way.
And if you take comfort in that, you're a seriously disturbed
individual.
Olrik
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
That's your excuse? You don't bat an eye? You accept that
wholeheartedly? I'm glad I'm not poisoned by your book o' blood...
Olrik
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
23 Jan 2007 08:40:54 AM |
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"Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you
are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A
measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
I forgot to mention that you do not hold the keys to death and hell
so you cannot control who gets thrown into the "eternal lake of
fire".
But since Pascal's wager is used by theists, to convince atheists
who
don't believe in a lake of fire that there really is a lake of fire,
we
figured it could be used to convince you.
Maybe even you're too smart to fall for the lies of your own
religion?
Nahhh.
Secondly, salvation is not for sale, it is a free gift from God.
That's not the salvation he's talking about. He's talking about
another
different lake of fire that $600.00 can save you from. If you think
the
threat of a lake of fire should be convincing to atheists, why isn't
the
threat of a lake of fire convincing to you?
I have no fear of any such "lake of fire" because my home is in
heaven.
Only those who have rejected Christ need have any fears.
Funny. So your "loving god" is currently sending roughly two-thirds of
the world population to this "lake of fire" of yours. Funny, in a very
disgusting way.
And if you take comfort in that, you're a seriously disturbed
individual.
Olrik
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
That's your excuse? You don't bat an eye? You accept that
wholeheartedly? I'm glad I'm not poisoned by your book o' blood...
No, it's not an "excuse", it is rather, the truth. I did not say anything
about
taking comfort in the torture of others. If you have any scriptural
knowledge
you'd know that believers will not "witness" the judgement and destruction
of unbelievers.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
31 Jan 2007 08:12:21 PM |
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On Jan 23, 10:40 pm, "G-Net" <netne...@verizon.net> wrote:
"Olrik" <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"Olrik" <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"Denis Loubet" <dlou...@io.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netne...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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<Hatte...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Pascals wager?...really? Tell you what. Paypal me $600.00 or you
are
going to hell. Really, can you risk the chance I am wrong? A
measly
$600.00 against the possible chance of the eternal lake of fire.
Hatter
I forgot to mention that you do not hold the keys to death and hell
so you cannot control who gets thrown into the "eternal lake of
fire".
But since Pascal's wager is used by theists, to convince atheists
who
don't believe in a lake of fire that there really is a lake of fire,
we
figured it could be used to convince you.
Maybe even you're too smart to fall for the lies of your own
religion?
Nahhh.
Secondly, salvation is not for sale, it is a free gift from God.
That's not the salvation he's talking about. He's talking about
another
different lake of fire that $600.00 can save you from. If you think
the
threat of a lake of fire should be convincing to atheists, why isn't
the
threat of a lake of fire convincing to you?
I have no fear of any such "lake of fire" because my home is in
heaven.
Only those who have rejected Christ need have any fears.
Funny. So your "loving god" is currently sending roughly two-thirds of
the world population to this "lake of fire" of yours. Funny, in a very
disgusting way.
And if you take comfort in that, you're a seriously disturbed
individual.
Olrik
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
That's your excuse? You don't bat an eye? You accept that
wholeheartedly? I'm glad I'm not poisoned by your book o' blood...
No, it's not an "excuse", it is rather, the truth. I did not say anything
about
taking comfort in the torture of others. If you have any scriptural
knowledge
you'd know that believers will not "witness" the judgement and destruction
of unbelievers.
Why are the unbelievers being judged again? I recall the Bible saying
"Judge not, lest ye be judged". I fairly sure it's there, but don't
quote me, and I don't know which verse.
If it's because "the evidence of God is everywhere", well, no. It's
not. Pull up a piece of evidence, and I will examine it.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
01 Feb 2007 09:48:10 PM |
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On 31 Jan 2007 18:12:21 -0800, wrote:
On Jan 23, 10:40 pm, "G-Net" <netne...@verizon.net> wrote:
No, it's not an "excuse", it is rather, the truth. I did not say anything about
taking comfort in the torture of others. If you have any scriptural knowledge
you'd know that believers will not "witness" the judgement and destruction
of unbelievers.
Why are the unbelievers being judged again? I recall the Bible saying
"Judge not, lest ye be judged". I fairly sure it's there, but don't
quote me, and I don't know which verse.
If it's because "the evidence of God is everywhere", well, no. It's
not. Pull up a piece of evidence, and I will examine it.
G-Net doesn't know the difference between his brainwashing and
evidence.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
22 Jan 2007 04:44:56 PM |
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
23 Jan 2007 08:39:01 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone. I do not worship the
devil, I worship God.
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| User: "William T. Goat" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
25 Jan 2007 09:59:16 PM |
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On Jan 23, 9:39 am, "G-Net" <netne...@verizon.net> wrote:
"Al Klein" <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote in messagenews:29far2dif3m5il6moja10m3gltume90k49@4ax.com...
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netne...@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a relationship.
A book is not a relationship.
--Billy
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
26 Jan 2007 12:38:36 PM |
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On 25 Jan 2007 19:59:16 -0800, "William T. Goat"
<ericvonl@my-deja.com> wrote:
On Jan 23, 9:39 am, "G-Net" <netne...@verizon.net> wrote:
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a relationship.
A book is not a relationship.
Be nice. It's the only relationship he has.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
23 Jan 2007 07:18:58 PM |
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:01 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone.
The lake of fire isn't a weekend vacation. Your Bible calls for
abortion, rape, concubinage of children, murder ... a nice book.
I do not worship the devil, I worship God.
You're funny.
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
24 Jan 2007 01:05:11 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:01 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a
relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone.
The lake of fire isn't a weekend vacation.
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Your Bible
Sorry, I didn't write the Bible. I own several Bibles but they are God's
word,
not mine.
calls for abortion, rape, concubinage of children, murder ... a nice book.
All lies, there is not one scripture in the Bible which tells a believer to
do
any of those things.
I do not worship the devil, I worship God.
You're funny.
Maybe but, I'm also correct.
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| User: "Steve O" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
24 Jan 2007 02:31:24 PM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:01 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the
judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a
relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone.
The lake of fire isn't a weekend vacation.
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Ah!
The old , "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible things will happen to
you!" ploy.
Heard that one before , too.
G- Net - do you really think you are the first person who has come in here
spouting this crap?
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings"
"The Universe isn't about us." - Carl Sagan
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
24 Jan 2007 03:02:48 PM |
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"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:01 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the
judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a
relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone.
The lake of fire isn't a weekend vacation.
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Ah!
The old , "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible things will happen
to you!" ploy.
Is there some sort of mental deficiency that occurs in someone's brain
when they become an atheist? It seems that you people can never
read or understand anything that I post, could that be a deliberate
lie?
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
Heard that one before , too.
G- Net - do you really think you are the first person who has come in here
spouting this crap?
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24 Jan 2007 03:14:59 PM |
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:01 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the
judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a
relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone.
The lake of fire isn't a weekend vacation.
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Ah!
The old , "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible things will happen
to you!" ploy.
Is there some sort of mental deficiency that occurs in someone's brain
when they become an atheist? It seems that you people can never
read or understand anything that I post, could that be a deliberate
lie?
We understand you all too well - that's your problem, and the reason why you
will never convince anyone of the crap you post here.
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with eternal
torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
--
Steve O
a.a. #2240 (Apatheist Chapter)
B.A.A.W.A.
"Faith doesn't move mountains - it levels buildings"
"The Universe isn't about us." - Carl Sagan
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| User: "G-Net" |
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24 Jan 2007 03:21:21 PM |
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"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:01 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the
judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a
relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone.
The lake of fire isn't a weekend vacation.
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Ah!
The old , "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible things will
happen to you!" ploy.
Is there some sort of mental deficiency that occurs in someone's brain
when they become an atheist? It seems that you people can never
read or understand anything that I post, could that be a deliberate
lie?
We understand you all too well - that's your problem, and the reason why
you will never convince anyone of the crap you post here.
I don't think you understand me at all. If you did have any sort of under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of anything.
All I have done is quoted some scripture and stated the truth. What anyone
does with that truth is their responsibilty, not mine.
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
Then you are proving yourself to AGAIN be a liar because I did not make
the statement that you claim I did.
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with eternal
torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
You can lie about whatever you want. I made no threats of any kind. I
merely said what scripture says. If you don't like to hear what is in
the Bible then hanging out in a Christian NG is probbably not a good
idea.
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
24 Jan 2007 03:51:16 PM |
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G-Net wrote:
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:51pu11F1krgbcU1@mid.individual.net...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:01 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the
judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a
relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone.
The lake of fire isn't a weekend vacation.
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Ah!
The old , "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible things will
happen to you!" ploy.
Is there some sort of mental deficiency that occurs in someone's brain
when they become an atheist? It seems that you people can never
read or understand anything that I post, could that be a deliberate
lie?
We understand you all too well - that's your problem, and the reason why
you will never convince anyone of the crap you post here.
I don't think you understand me at all.
That seems unlikely.
If you did have any sort of under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of anything.
Well, not very hard, anyway. You've just made a lot of unsupported
assertions.
All I have done is quoted some scripture and stated the truth.
You're equating the two?
What anyone
does with that truth is their responsibilty, not mine.
What "truth" have you mentioned?
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
Then you are proving yourself to AGAIN be a liar because I did not make
the statement that you claim I did.
You didn't say "The judgement is completely avoidable. People will
suffer only if they choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their
choice"?
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with eternal
torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
You can lie about whatever you want. I made no threats of any kind.
Of course you did. You said "The judgement is completely avoidable.
People will suffer only if they choose to reject Jesus Christ but that
is their choice." That's a threat; an expression of intention to
inflict evil, injury, or damage. You're threatening atheists with
suffering if they don't "accept jeebus."
I merely said what scripture says.
And what legitimate reason is there for someone who isn't a part of
your cult to accept any part of your mythology? Do you consider the
Bhagavad Gita scripture, for example?
If you don't like to hear what is in the Bible then hanging
out in a Christian NG is probbably not a good idea.
You know what's an even better idea? Not posting to alt.atheism if you
don't want the inconsistencies and illogic of your beliefs pointed out.
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
25 Jan 2007 12:00:26 AM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 14:39:01 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 14:42:58 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
Read my post again. I said nothing about taking comfort in the
judgement
of others. I merely pointed out what scripture says.
You merely pointed out that you accept a religion that tortures
most
of humanity for eternity without batting an eyelash. Anyone who
worships a torturer condones torture.
I have not spoken of "religion" at all. I have spoken about a
relationship.
The scriptures do not condone torture of anyone.
The lake of fire isn't a weekend vacation.
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if
they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Ah!
The old , "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible things will
happen to you!" ploy.
Is there some sort of mental deficiency that occurs in someone's brain
when they become an atheist? It seems that you people can never
read or understand anything that I post, could that be a deliberate
lie?
We understand you all too well - that's your problem, and the reason
why
you will never convince anyone of the crap you post here.
I don't think you understand me at all.
That seems unlikely.
If you did have any sort of under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of
anything.
Well, not very hard, anyway. You've just made a lot of unsupported
assertions.
All I have done is quoted some scripture and stated the truth.
You're equating the two?
What anyone
does with that truth is their responsibilty, not mine.
What "truth" have you mentioned?
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if
they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
Then you are proving yourself to AGAIN be a liar because I did not make
the statement that you claim I did.
You didn't say "The judgement is completely avoidable. People will
suffer only if they choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their
choice"?
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with
eternal
torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
You can lie about whatever you want. I made no threats of any kind.
Of course you did. You said "The judgement is completely avoidable.
People will suffer only if they choose to reject Jesus Christ but that
is their choice." That's a threat; an expression of intention to
inflict evil, injury, or damage. You're threatening atheists with
suffering if they don't "accept jeebus."
I merely said what scripture says.
And what legitimate reason is there for someone who isn't a part of
your cult to accept any part of your mythology? Do you consider the
Bhagavad Gita scripture, for example?
If you don't like to hear what is in the Bible then hanging
out in a Christian NG is probbably not a good idea.
You know what's an even better idea? Not posting to alt.atheism if you
don't want the inconsistencies and illogic of your beliefs pointed out.
You know what's an even better idea? Not posting to alt.religion.christian
if you don't want the inconsistencies and illogic pointed out.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
24 Jan 2007 04:13:48 PM |
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:21:21 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:51q0ipF1lmtifU1@mid.individual.net...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:YPPth.3013$2n.15@trndny06...
I don't think you understand me at all. If you did have any sort of under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of anything.
All I have done is quoted some scripture
Where it's not wanted, so that's in violation of what that scripture
tells you to do.
That means that you quote it at us but don't believe it yourself.
And don't even try to tell me that I'm lying, or that I don't
understand you or any other weasel words - that's EXACTLY what ANY
sane person would understand your words to mean. If you don't accept
that that's what they mean, it only means that you're not intelligent
enough to understand your own posts.
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
Then you are proving yourself to AGAIN be a liar because I did not make
the statement that you claim I did.
Does he have to reproduce the entire post to prove that those are your
words?
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with eternal
torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
You can lie about whatever you want. I made no threats of any kind.
If you didn't understand that "People will suffer only if they choose
to reject Jesus Christ" is a threat then you're not a complete liar,
you're just a complete idiot.
If you don't like to hear what is in
the Bible then hanging out in a Christian NG is probbably not a good
idea.
Learn how Usenet works. Neither Steve nor I are reading your words in
a Christian NG - you're posting them to alt.atheism. (And if you
start blathering about where you're posting from you'll just prove, to
anyone who knows how Usenet works, that you don't have any more clue
about Usenet than you do about reality.)
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
25 Jan 2007 12:05:06 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:21:21 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:51q0ipF1lmtifU1@mid.individual.net...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:YPPth.3013$2n.15@trndny06...
I don't think you understand me at all. If you did have any sort of under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of
anything.
All I have done is quoted some scripture
Where it's not wanted, so that's in violation of what that scripture
tells you to do.
It is not a violation of scripture at all.
That means that you quote it at us but don't believe it yourself.
That would be another lie.
And don't even try to tell me that I'm lying, or that I don't
understand you or any other weasel words - that's EXACTLY what ANY
sane person would understand your words to mean.
Your idea of "any person" means only an atheist.
If you don't accept that that's what they mean, it only means that
you're not intelligent enough to understand your own posts.
....in your opinion.
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if
they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
Then you are proving yourself to AGAIN be a liar because I did not make
the statement that you claim I did.
Does he have to reproduce the entire post to prove that those are your
words?
I did not make the statement that he claims I did.
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with eternal
torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
You can lie about whatever you want. I made no threats of any kind.
If you didn't understand that "People will suffer only if they choose
to reject Jesus Christ" is a threat then you're not a complete liar,
you're just a complete idiot.
No, you are the liar.
If you don't like to hear what is in the Bible then hanging out in
a Christian NG is probbably not a good idea.
Learn how Usenet works. Neither Steve nor I are reading your words in
a Christian NG - you're posting them to alt.atheism. (And if you
start blathering about where you're posting from you'll just prove, to
anyone who knows how Usenet works, that you don't have any more clue
about Usenet than you do about reality.)
You are cross posting to alt.religion.christian. I also have a right
to cross ost to your atheist newsgroup. It works both ways scooter.
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
25 Jan 2007 11:08:58 AM |
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G-Net wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:21:21 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:51q0ipF1lmtifU1@mid.individual.net...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:YPPth.3013$2n.15@trndny06...
I don't think you understand me at all. If you did have any sort of under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of anything.
All I have done is quoted some scripture
Where it's not wanted, so that's in violation of what that scripture
tells you to do.
It is not a violation of scripture at all.
Luke 9:5
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake
off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
That means that you quote it at us but don't believe it yourself.
That would be another lie.
So Luke 9:5 doesn't mean what it says? Imagine that.
And don't even try to tell me that I'm lying, or that I don't
understand you or any other weasel words - that's EXACTLY what ANY
sane person would understand your words to mean.
Your idea of "any person" means only an atheist.
Or someone who's read the whole bible.
If you don't accept that that's what they mean, it only means that
you're not intelligent enough to understand your own posts.
...in your opinion.
Nope. Your posts demonstrate that you either don't understand what
you've read in your bible, or don't think it applies to you.
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if
they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
Then you are proving yourself to AGAIN be a liar because I did not make
the statement that you claim I did.
Does he have to reproduce the entire post to prove that those are your words?
I did not make the statement that he claims I did.
Non sequitur.
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with eternal
torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
You can lie about whatever you want. I made no threats of any kind.
If you didn't understand that "People will suffer only if they choose
to reject Jesus Christ" is a threat then you're not a complete liar,
you're just a complete idiot.
No, you are the liar.
What has he lied about?
If you don't like to hear what is in the Bible then hanging out in
a Christian NG is probbably not a good idea.
Learn how Usenet works. Neither Steve nor I are reading your words in
a Christian NG - you're posting them to alt.atheism. (And if you
start blathering about where you're posting from you'll just prove, to
anyone who knows how Usenet works, that you don't have any more clue
about Usenet than you do about reality.)
You are cross posting to alt.religion.christian.
As a result of your crossposts into alt.atheism. Better than 95% of
the crossposts between alt.atheism and religious newsgroups originate
from the religious newsgroups.
I also have a right to cross ost to your atheist newsgroup.
Yes you do. And we have the right to point out your factual errors,
logical fallacies, and outright lies. And spelling errors, since you
were foolish enough to bring that up; what is a "cross ost"?
It works both ways scooter.
Too bad for you. Oh, by the way, you left out another comma.
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| User: "G-Net" |
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| Title: Re: to those of you who believe Pascal's wager is a decent argument |
25 Jan 2007 12:11:39 PM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1169744938.774205.261690@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
G-Net wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:g4mfr21k5scrpj39r5c34o26ishnfmnr9v@4ax.com...
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:21:21 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:51q0ipF1lmtifU1@mid.individual.net...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:YPPth.3013$2n.15@trndny06...
I don't think you understand me at all. If you did have any sort of
under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of
anything.
All I have done is quoted some scripture
Where it's not wanted, so that's in violation of what that scripture
tells you to do.
It is not a violation of scripture at all.
Luke 9:5
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake
off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
And you think this passage applies to the internet? That's funny.
That means that you quote it at us but don't believe it yourself.
That would be another lie.
So Luke 9:5 doesn't mean what it says? Imagine that.
It does mean what it says. I just disagree with you on the
modern day application(s).
And don't even try to tell me that I'm lying, or that I don't
understand you or any other weasel words - that's EXACTLY what ANY
sane person would understand your words to mean.
Your idea of "any person" means only an atheist.
Or someone who's read the whole bible.
I've read the Bible too, so what?
If you don't accept that that's what they mean, it only means that
you're not intelligent enough to understand your own posts.
...in your opinion.
Nope. Your posts demonstrate that you either don't understand what
you've read in your bible, or don't think it applies to you.
I don't think it applies to me the way YOU say it does. I don't think you
understand scripture so you interpret it to mean whatever you want it
to at that moment.
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say,
terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if
they
choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
Then you are proving yourself to AGAIN be a liar because I did not make
the statement that you claim I did.
Does he have to reproduce the entire post to prove that those are your
words?
I did not make the statement that he claims I did.
Non sequitur.
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with
eternal
torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
You can lie about whatever you want. I made no threats of any kind.
If you didn't understand that "People will suffer only if they choose
to reject Jesus Christ" is a threat then you're not a complete liar,
you're just a complete idiot.
No, you are the liar.
What has he lied about?
He has claimed that I have said things that I have not.
If you don't like to hear what is in the Bible then hanging out in
a Christian NG is probbably not a good idea.
Learn how Usenet works. Neither Steve nor I are reading your words in
a Christian NG - you're posting them to alt.atheism. (And if you
start blathering about where you're posting from you'll just prove, to
anyone who knows how Usenet works, that you don't have any more clue
about Usenet than you do about reality.)
You are cross posting to alt.religion.christian.
As a result of your crossposts into alt.atheism. Better than 95% of
the crossposts between alt.atheism and religious newsgroups originate
from the religious newsgroups.
You can blame me if that soothes your concience.
I also have a right to cross ost to your atheist newsgroup.
Yes you do. And we have the right to point out your factual errors,
logical fallacies, and outright lies.
Well, when I make any of those feel free. Unfortunately, I haven't yet.
And spelling errors, since you were foolish enough to bring that up;
what is a "cross ost"?
It works both ways scooter.
Too bad for you. Oh, by the way, you left out another comma.
So?
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25 Jan 2007 03:27:07 PM |
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G-Net wrote:
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:21:21 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote:
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I don't think you understand me at all. If you did have any sort of
under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of
anything.
All I have done is quoted some scripture
Where it's not wanted, so that's in violation of what that scripture
tells you to do.
It is not a violation of scripture at all.
Luke 9:5
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake
off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
And you think this passage applies to the internet? That's funny.
It's supposed to apply everywhere. Unless you can provide scriptural
evidence otherwise?
That means that you quote it at us but don't believe it yourself.
That would be another lie.
So Luke 9:5 doesn't mean what it says? Imagine that.
It does mean what it says. I just disagree with you on the
modern day application(s).
Of course you do, that's how you rationalize your disobedience to GOD'S
COMMANDMENTS. So your position is that if someone in the town you're
in tells you to shut up about your delusion, you have to walk out of
town barefoot, but it's okay to annoy people on the internet for as
long as you want.
That's the spirit.
And don't even try to tell me that I'm lying, or that I don't
understand you or any other weasel words - that's EXACTLY what ANY
sane person would understand your words to mean.
Your idea of "any person" means only an atheist.
Or someone who's read the whole bible.
I've read the Bible too, so what?
You aren't supposed to pick and chose which parts to read or follow;
you're supposed to read and follow the whole thing. Stoned any
adulterers lately?
If you don't accept that that's what they mean, it only means that
you're not intelligent enough to understand your own posts.
...in your opinion.
Nope. Your posts demonstrate that you either don't understand what
you've read in your bible, or don't think it applies to you.
I don't think it applies to me the way YOU say it does.
Of course not. You pick and chose what's convenient to believe.
I don't think you understand scripture so you interpret
it to mean whatever you want it to at that moment.
Whereas you just ignore the parts you don't like.
Show me where I EVER said "if you don't listen to what I say, terrible
things will happen to you!" That is not something that I have ever
posted anywhere. Why do you atheists always resort to lies?
The proof is here right above
Quote
The judgement is completely avoidable. People will suffer only if
they choose to reject Jesus Christ but that is their choice.
Unquote
Then you are proving yourself to AGAIN be a liar because I did not make
the statement that you claim I did.
Does he have to reproduce the entire post to prove that those are your
words?
I did not make the statement that he claims I did.
Non sequitur.
I guess since you didn't understand what that meant, you decided to
keep your mouth shut. Good idea.
You are threatening us, like many of your kind have before, with
eternal torture and damnation if we don't agree with you.
You're a sick puppy.
You can lie about whatever you want. I made no threats of any kind.
If you didn't understand that "People will suffer only if they choose
to reject Jesus Christ" is a threat then you're not a complete liar,
you're just a complete idiot.
No, you are the liar.
What has he lied about?
He has claimed that I have said things that I have not.
No, he hasn't, liar.
If you don't like to hear what is in the Bible then hanging out in
a Christian NG is probbably not a good idea.
Learn how Usenet works. Neither Steve nor I are reading your words in
a Christian NG - you're posting them to alt.atheism. (And if you
start blathering about where you're posting from you'll just prove, to
anyone who knows how Usenet works, that you don't have any more clue
about Usenet than you do about reality.)
You are cross posting to alt.religion.christian.
As a result of your crossposts into alt.atheism. Better than 95% of
the crossposts between alt.atheism and religious newsgroups originate
from the religious newsgroups.
You can blame me if that soothes your concience.
Good, since the blame is yours.
I also have a right to cross ost to your atheist newsgroup.
Yes you do. And we have the right to point out your factual errors,
logical fallacies, and outright lies.
Well, when I make any of those feel free. Unfortunately, I haven't yet.
Denial doesn't make them go away. Someday, you'll understand that.
And spelling errors, since you were foolish enough to bring that up;
what is a "cross ost"?
It works both ways scooter.
Too bad for you. Oh, by the way, you left out another comma.
So?
So the next time you think about dodging a question with a spelling or
grammar flame, think again.
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25 Jan 2007 03:37:28 PM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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G-Net wrote:
"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1169744938.774205.261690@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
G-Net wrote:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 21:21:21 GMT, "G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net>
wrote:
"Steve O" <spamhere@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:51q0ipF1lmtifU1@mid.individual.net...
"G-Net" <netnerve@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:YPPth.3013$2n.15@trndny06...
I don't think you understand me at all. If you did have any sort of
under-
standing you'd know that I haven't tried to convince any of you of
anything.
All I have done is quoted some scripture
Where it's not wanted, so that's in violation of what that scripture
tells you to do.
It is not a violation of scripture at all.
Luke 9:5
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake
off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
And you think this passage applies to the internet? That's funny.
It's supposed to apply everywhere. Unless you can provide scriptural
evidence otherwise?
I don't have to prove anything to you nor provide you with anything. You
don't decide how scripture applies, God does.
That means that you quote it at us but don't believe it yourself.
That would be another lie.
So Luke 9:5 doesn't mean what it says? Imagine that.
It does mean what it says. I just disagree with you on the
modern day application(s).
Of course you do, that's how you rationalize your disobedience to GOD'S
COMMANDMENTS.
I don't "justify" disobedience but no one is stupid enough to let some
atheistic half-wit try to tell them how to apply scripture when the
atheist cannot even understand scripture in the first place.
So your position is that if someone in the town you're
in tells you to shut up about your delusion, you have to walk out of
town barefoot, but it's okay to annoy people on the internet for as
long as you want.
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