"jabriol" <jabriol@bluegender.org> wrote in message
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The posts JW JABRIOL nuked .. and how to get Jabriol NUKED!


Q1. Who is Jabriol, and where can I find his posts?

A1. Antonio Santana, of Camden, NJ, one of Jehovah's Witnesses and a
regular contributor to Usenet via a large number of different ISPs,
mail2news servers and email accounts (which he sometimes uses in

ways so as to make himself difficult to track down). To find out about

he posts, you should click on:

http://google.com/groups?as_uauthors=jabriol&num=100

You might quickly conclude that Jabriol:
* supports the act of rape, and believes the victim is often to blame -

that the rape victim should be explicitly told this;
* actively encourages depressed people to commit suicide - and this has

the predictable effect - at least once;
* supports violence by husbands against wives, who must show total
subjection;
* derives great satisfaction from images of billions of children and

being slaughtered by the leader of his JW Cult;
* has beaten and driven away his own daughter, etc.

Jabriol has been doing this for many, many years. Indeed, there are so

posts by him that you will fall afoul of Google's limitation of search
results to 1000 matches at most. To get around this, surf to:

http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search

and then, in sequence:
(a) in the box marked "Author Return only messages where the author is "
enter Jabriol ; and
(b) Click on "Return messages posted between " ; and
(c) Enter a restricted date range of (say) 6 months (his first post was in
June 1996, and the volume of posts per month from him has grown and

and
(d) Set the dropdown list which defaults to "10 messages" to "100
messages"; and
(e) Press the button marked "Google Search"; and
(f) Systematically work your way through the lists of messages you get -
this may be many pages full of headers, at a hundred per page. Then loop
back to the Search page and use a further date range.

Q2. I have read what he has put out there, and I am horrified and

If all this is known, how come Jabriol has not been disfellowshipped (the
kooky Watchtower word for "excommunicated") from the Jehovah's Witnesses?

A2. Firstly, JWs stick together. "The Brothers" routinely shield
wife-beaters, pedophiles and so on. Their official policy is to shield
accused pedophiles from the law (they won't report them to the cops unless
absolutely legally compelled to do so, and will threaten family members
with excommunication i.e. certain death if they whistleblow, the charge
being "bringing the name of Jehovah into disrepute") UNLESS the pedo
confesses OR there are two witnesses to the same occurrence (hey, how many
pedos invite non-pedo onlookers??). So it is not surprising that the
filthy, disgusting JW *SWINE* here in Usenet stick by Jabriol. For more
evidence of how the Jehovah's Witnesses stick together, irrespective of
right or wrong, please read A8 below.
Also, Jabriol knows something those immediately above him do not wish him
to divulge.




Q3. So, what did Jabriol nuke from the Google posting archives??

A3. You will have observed Jabriol posts quoting a huge number of

email accounts. Many of these are fake ones (either non-existent, or
belonging to someone else). One drawback of this is that is hard (or
impossible) to nuke material that has originated from an email account one
does not control, as confirmation of identity must come from that email
account.

So, from time to time he uses real accounts. Two recent ones have been:

he knew he could remove later on.

And, after his despicable actions re Chris Dubose (the suicide), these
posts HAVE been nuked from the archives. For proof, check out these URLs:

http://google.com/groups?as_uauthors=

Q4. Could the nuked posts have been forgeries?

A4. No. Using my contacts at echelon.net, I archived all of them. Here

a few of the message-IDs:

1KNd7.167576$Cu6.13518296@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
BxBd7.164642$Cu6.13078813@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
cP%d7.171092$Cu6.14043731@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
DmEc7.205216$Gk.12836985@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
FmEc7.205218$Gk.12837283@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
fxBd7.164621$Cu6.13078587@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
hNhe7.7053$NK1.355766@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
LCAc7.200458$Gk.12684326@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
LzRa7.122018$Gk.7795013@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
MCAc7.200461$Gk.12683974@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
MCAc7.200461$Gk.12683974@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
pwNd7.167404$Cu6.13515354@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
QmEc7.205229$Gk.12836796@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
RCAc7.200468$Gk.12684690@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
roGe7.5418$Lw3.617172@news2.aus1.giganews.com
sb8d7.151897$Cu6.12039483@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
TCAc7.200470$Gk.12684507@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
WCAc7.200474$Gk.12684720@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
YL%d7.171073$Cu6.14041827@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com
[snip]

A careful check of the headers show some of the messages originated from
Astra Labs Limited, whose services are often employed by Jabriol. Contrary
to what the MIDs suggestion, they did not originate in Australia.

Secondly, the language and message in them is vintage Jabriol (just a bit
more extreme).

Thirdly, while many of those posts occurred in threads in which Jabriol

also participating with other email addresses (and which posts are not
nuked), not once did he cry "forgery", even in responses to persons who
were themselves responding to

I'm not sure why, but Sepideh seriously wants me to kill myself, and has
not only told me to please kill myself, but has blocked me from her

has put me on permanent ignore on her ICQ, and has killfiled me from
newsgroups. And I don't even know exactly why. In other words, she's
completely abandoned me like everybody else and wishes I would stop
existing on the face of the earth.

What a cry for help from this distressed person. "sepideh" is Sepideh
Baghaii <sepideh@bu.edu>, a girl he had become somewhat fixated upon over
the internet, and onto whom he was projecting things of which she was
innocent.

Unfortunately for Truthseeker, Wicked JW Jabriol read his post. Jabriol,
who patrols the mailing lists and bulletin boards as he does Usenet, on

lookout for hurt people he can taught, or weak and vulnerable people he

recruit into his Jehovah's Witnesses Cult, almost immediately replied

Do not feel Bad, You see, her evolutionary instincts as indicated you as
not a good canditate for the human species. If you belive in the theory

evolution, then you belive that your desire to kill yourself is purely
normal.
The director of natural selection Mr. Chance may have directed your

to blow away yourself in some sort of violent act. This is not your fault
since human emotions and behaviour is just another mere Mechanism to
enhace survival of the species. I do not seriously belive that anyone one
wants you to kill yourself. Howevewer Natural selection may want you to

do so for the good of humanity. I personaly do not subscribe to evolution
as the origin of man. And I do fight my self destructive ways.. However

you do belive in evolution, and that man is here, but gone tomorrow...
then follow your instincts.. go in style, make the headline, like those
columbine high kids did. But if you belive you are much more than the
product of two human to satify nature need to procreate. there is a

way..
Read the Bible. [WORDS BY JEHOVAH'S WITNESS JABRIOL - NO EDITING AT

A few months later, Chris Dubose - exactly followed JW Jabriol's stated
interpretation of what "Natural Selection" was directing Chris to do.

Dubose did blow himself away in style, making the headlines. He

himself under a train...

Not content with this, Jabriol has since harangued the boy's mother - even
threatening her with legal action, though he later ret acted that,
pretending he was only threatening others... unbelievable wickedness.


Not content, Jabriol has actively and deliberately and DIRECTLY driven the
poor girl Sepideh off from Usenet entirely (well, at least he did not try
to kill her). Here is the record. Sepideh, the girl who was closest by far
to Chris Dubose, posted the following to alt.support.depression:
http://google.com/groups?selm=9l9e9m%2425o%241%40news3.bu.edu
wherein she said:
"It bothers me that there are all these [sp truthseeker] posts. I hardly
read anything here anymore, but I am sucked into the [sp truthseeker]
posts. And all the crap about talking to him or blaming yourselves or
others or everything.
And here I am sitting and wondering... or coming across things Chris

me and wondering... and wondering...
It is so hard. Do you understand that?"

Another cry for help... Alas for Sepideh, JW Jabriol found her post.

Not content with having goaded her dear friend Chris to follow the
directives of Natural Selection (i.e. kill himself), JW Jabriol responded
less than 2 days later to Sepideh with:
google.com/groups?selm=2928e70.0108150831.3cc9814%40posting.google.com
from which I quote:


--------------------------------------------------------------------------

From:

GMT)
X-Complaints-To:

It bothers me that there are all these [sp truthseeker] posts. I hardly
read anything here anymore, but I am sucked into the [sp truthseeker]
posts. And all the crap about talking to him or blaming yourselves or
others or everything.

Ahhh You are the Women. Don't worry Chris, killed himself because I told
him so.
That is why he laid his head on amtrack rail, and got it severed from
his neck.. which rolled around for a few meters..
at least that is what his mother says or implies.

And here I am sitting and wondering... or coming across things Chris
mailed me and wondering... and wondering...
It is so hard. Do you understand that?

Of course, ask mrs Dubose... I always wonder if he laid face down or face
up.
was his head sewed back to his neck.. etc.
His mother doesnt say...
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The post originated from Jabriol's Google account registered at his

Path: proves. The NNTP posting host is: Test Technologies (TESTTE), of 4
East Stowe Road, Suite 2, Marlton, NJ 08053 - not far from Jabriol's

NJ base.

The sheer evil of that post speaks for itself. "he laid his head on

rail, and got it severed from his neck.. which rolled around for a few
meters .. I always wonder if he laid face down or face up. was his head
sewed back to his neck"... What a fine JEHOVAH'S WITNESS is Mr Antonio
Santana! What a good Witness he gives for the Society! Truly, they are
God's people. They let him go on and on posting like this, with no
sanction. Others, they excommunicate simply for embracing a loved one (who
had been excommunicated and who was therefore to be shunned absolutely)...


Poor Sepideh saw Jabriol's hateful post within a short while, and less

an hour and a half later she responded in:
http://google.com/groups?selm=9led7v%24h44%241%40news3.bu.edu

with the words:
"Why do you care? Are you just trying to get off on this?"

AND THAT WAS SEPIDEH'S LAST EVER POST ON USENET (August 15, 2001), AT

WITH ANY RECOGNIZABLE ID. Here is proof it was her last one:
http://google.com/groups?q=author:sepideh%40bu.edu

What a good fine theocratic record for JW Jabriol:

Boy: TAUNTED - NOW DEAD
Mother: GRIEF-STRICKEN - AND THREATENED WITH LAWSUIT
Girl: TAUNTED - AND DRIVEN OFF USENET

This isn't the first time JW Jabriol has perpetrated such atrocities - but
his fellow-JWs rush to protect him. Indeed, when I first exposed and
condemned JW Jabriol's taunting of rape victims in their support NG, two

his filthy spiritual JW Brothers rushed to his aid and abused and attacked
me viciously for my exposure of their fellow-JW.... THIS WAS YEARS BEFORE
JABRIOL'S "GUIDANCE" HELPED CHRIS DUBOSE TO HIS FATE.
The two spiritual-criminals who supported Jabriol and encouraged him to
further acts of malicious hatred against those in the support newsgroups
(it is no step at all from the rape support to the depression support NG)
were:
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS "Richmac" <richmac@erols.com>

and
JEHOVAH'S WITNESS "Dave Worthey" <davers_dfd@netzero.net>

The former, Richmac, is a particularly despicable and odious little

whom I have caught in DIRECT LYING - and who has now fled from the Usenet
in Spring 2002.
The latter is a stupid drunken sot who is desparate to be reinstated as a
JW (he was excommunicated for having a tipple) and believes his droppings
here will assist him and win favors.

RICHMAC and DAVE WORTHEY are BLOODGUILTY, by the teachings of the
Watchtower itself. They could have helped stop their brother JW.

these spiritual-rapists ENCOURAGED him. And we have now seen the result.




Q6. This is incredible! Don't these Jehovah's Witnesses have a conscience?

A6. In accordance with the teachings of the Watchtower Cult to which
Jabriol belongs, all non-JWs (excluding some dependant minor childen of JW
parents) are scheduled to be slaughtered very soon (tomorrow is quite
likely) by the murderous leader of the Jehovah's Witnesses. All such are
of the "Walking Dead Class" and the "Bird Seed Class" (as the 6 billion
plus corpses will be disposed off by the birds), and their destruction is
to be viewed as a joyful event by the JWs (JWs are trained not to feel any
misgivings about this Mother Of All Genocides - if they feel any remorse,
they too will be destroyed).
Sepideh, Chris Dubose and his mother were thus wholly worthless to Jabriol
unless he could convert them. One doesn't have a conscience when dealing
with ants (official Watchtower term to refer to those who do not submit
themselves to Jehovah-of-the-Watchtower) who are scheduled for squashing

God in "army boots" (Watchtower teaching - promise - follow the links in

URL!).
So conscience does not even come into it!




Q7. But surely Jabriol is not typical of the Jehovah's Witnesses??

A7. He is but a somewhat extreme example. But I know many who are far

than he is.
If you genuinely believe you are one of a miniscule number who has an
all-powerful truth which makes you immortal (the JW Pill), and everyone
else is very inferior and contemptibly stupid (for not becoming an unpaid
bookselling slave for the rich men in Brooklyn!) and will soon be brutally
killed (no quick death, either - eyes popping out of eyeballs, skin

off with flesh-eating plagues, violent crimes, etc.), mental illness of a
very profound nature swiftly develops.
Half of the JW elders are as bad as Jabriol, or worse. Jabriol just makes
his feelings more openly obvious - so one should commend his honesty!





Q8. I want to do something to stop this.

A8. Unfortunately, we do not live in a theocratic soceity, and regrettably
are limited by the secular laws of the land. [Parody of Watchtower

from the 1950s explaining why JWs should not just go out and kill
"apostates" by stoning them to death - real reason, the Watchtower did not
want the lawsuits].

The Watchtower Cult is all about making money (which they hide in property
etc.).

I deduce that Jabriol's work on Usenet has cost the Watchtower thousands

recruits in the US and Europe (where the web is densest), and therefore
millions of dollars of future revenue. ;-)

Here it is again:
The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society
25 Columbia Heights
Brooklyn
New York
NY 11201-2483
USA
abuse@watchtower.org
help@watchtower.org
support@watchtower.org


You know what needs to be done. YES, I MEAN *YOU*.

Hint: You will achieve your result more easily if you omit your real views
about the Watchtower Cult. Instead:

"Having received some interesting material at the door, I looked up the
Jehovah's Witnesses on the Internet and was horrified to find what their
official spokesperson (he is a JW minister, he says, as all JWs are)

Jabriol is writing. He is Antonio Santana, of the Camden NJ Congregation
though he may have moved.
http://google.com/groups?as_uauthors=jabriol&num=100 "

If he is not stopped, there will be more Chris Dubose's, more Sepidehs,
more tragedies...