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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Blak"
Date: 21 Jul 2006 08:13:08 AM
Object: TOBS: Design or chance?
BEFORE starting your activities each morning, do you glance in a mirror
to check your appearance? You may not have time to be contemplative
then. But take a moment now to marvel at what is involved as you take
such a simple glance.
Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life. The position of your ears gives you
stereophonic hearing; thus you can locate the source of sounds, such as
the voice of a loved one. We may take that for granted, yet a book for
sound engineers comments: “In considering the human hearing system in
any depth, however, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that its
intricate functions and structures indicate some beneficent hand in its
design.”
Your nose also manifests marvelous design. Through it you can breathe
air, which keeps you alive. Also, it has millions of sense receptors,
enabling you to discern some 10,000 nuances of smell. As you enjoy a
meal, another sense comes into play. Thousands of taste buds convey
flavors to you. Other receptors on your tongue help you to feel if your
teeth are clean.
Yes, you have five senses—sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch.
Granted, some animals have keener night vision, more sensitive smell, or
more acute hearing, but man’s balance of these senses certainly allows
him to excel in many ways.
Let us, though, consider why we can benefit from these abilities and
capacities. All of them depend on the three-pound [1.4 kg] organ inside
our head—our brain. Animals have functioning brains. Still, the human
brain is in a class by itself, making us undeniably unique. How so? And
how does this uniqueness relate to our interest in having a meaningful,
lasting life?
.

User: "Greywolf"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 21 Jul 2006 10:04:49 AM
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...

BEFORE starting your activities each morning, do you glance in a mirror to
check your appearance? You may not have time to be contemplative then. But
take a moment now to marvel at what is involved as you take such a simple
glance.

Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life. The position of your ears gives you
stereophonic hearing; thus you can locate the source of sounds, such as
the voice of a loved one. We may take that for granted, yet a book for
sound engineers comments: “In considering the human hearing system in any
depth, however, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that its
intricate functions and structures indicate some beneficent hand in its
design.”

Your nose also manifests marvelous design. Through it you can breathe air,
which keeps you alive. Also, it has millions of sense receptors, enabling
you to discern some 10,000 nuances of smell. As you enjoy a meal, another
sense comes into play. Thousands of taste buds convey flavors to you.
Other receptors on your tongue help you to feel if your teeth are clean.

Yes, you have five senses—sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch.
Granted, some animals have keener night vision, more sensitive smell, or
more acute hearing, but man’s balance of these senses certainly allows him
to excel in many ways.

Let us, though, consider why we can benefit from these abilities and
capacities. All of them depend on the three-pound [1.4 kg] organ inside
our head—our brain. Animals have functioning brains. Still, the human
brain is in a class by itself, making us undeniably unique. How so? And
how does this uniqueness relate to our interest in having a meaningful,
lasting life?

I look up at night sky and see countless stars. I stand in awe and
amazement. That proves Jesus/God exists, right? Absolutely proves it beyond
a shadow of a doubt, right? Your ancestors 'believed' in quite the same way.
Only *they* believed in any number of gods. Where did *they* go wrong?
Greywolf
.
User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?S/ZpLUz2?="

Title: Re: Design or chance from WTS publications...... 21 Jul 2006 07:28:04 PM
"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
news:12c1r8ro7oaj5bb@corp.supernews.com...


I look up at night sky and see countless stars. I stand in awe and
amazement. That proves Jesus/God exists, right? Absolutely proves it
beyond a shadow of a doubt, right? Your ancestors 'believed' in quite the
same way. Only *they* believed in any number of gods. Where did *they* go
wrong?

================
It's all "copy and paste" from Watchtower publications........ yawn. :-O
Posting it here is a sneaky way to get innocent people to read their
publications and hopefully snag a few converts.
--
WE....
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Blak"

Title: Re: Design or chance from WTS publications...... 21 Jul 2006 10:32:34 PM
Köi-Lö wrote:


================
It's all "copy and paste" from Watchtower publications........ yawn.
:-O Posting it here is a sneaky way to get innocent people to read their
publications and hopefully snag a few converts.

Here is what none Jw's think of Carol.
news:9KVvg.15515$A8.1851@trnddc02...
He has repeatedly demonstrated that Carol is an
inveterate liar
Carolyn Adamo Gulley
3245 North Lamar Road Mount Juliet TN 37122-7806
Phone 615-459-9345
Is a confirmed liar and slanderer, all around Usenet Kook.
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health NG
do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
http://tinyurl.com/99azt
http://tinyurl.com/87ow4
http://tinyurl.com/d6t5m
http://tinyurl.com/aheek
http://tinyurl.com/ck97r
http://tinyurl.com/cm3dp
http://tinyurl.com/8bscg
http://tinyurl.com/7epdg
http://tinyurl.com/bya3z
When she is best by a man she accuse him of stalking
http://tinyurl.com/8wryt
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
She also claims she is an expert on Fish and aquariums. This has been a
confirmed lie as well. All her advice comes from other sources, which
plagerize and claims as her own.
Before you reply to her on any topic , you may want to ask her a few
things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post?
O the topic of fish, ask where she got her information, and since she
replies on several aquarium newsgroups, where does she gets the time to
do what she claim she does?
an analysis oof he usenet posting indicates sge is glued to her
keyboard harrassing JW's.
Carol is well known Nut case in Mt Juliet TN. Don't belive me? Call
her Sheriff, they will tell you stories; call them yourselves:
Rutherford County Sheriff's Office
940 New Salem Highway
Murfreesboro, Tennessee 37129
615-898-7770
In any case ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with
your conversation with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time
and bandwidth on discussing subjects based on fraudulent and
fabricated information. This is how she manipulates clueless
bystanders in participating with her distributing false information
elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why
bring it up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:

If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic you can report her. Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and
you may report her by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at
, or by writing to:
DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA
Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carolyn Adamo Gulley of Mt Juliet Tn. Is a life long underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as a biker gangsters
in the 60's and 70's. She claims on her former website that she has 2
failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since. This has made her a very mentally unstable
woman, her hatred is intense, and due to biker-substance abuse
lifestyle, she now needs aid of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries., and that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.
.
User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?S/ZpLUz2?="

Title: Re: Design or chance from WTS publications...... 21 Jul 2006 11:17:08 PM
Still trying to have us murdered with your slander and lies Antonio? Both
Police Dept's are
aware of what you are trying to accomplish and you wont succeed.
From your own brother Jehovah's Witness: Vance Liscomb
<Vance_member@newsguy.com> Jehovah's
Witness:
Subject: Re: For Carolyn Gulley (Correction)

Aware that Antonio L. Santana <ReelMckoi@mailinator.com> is

searching for someone to murder the Gulley family I post this in
the hope it saves her life from this homicidal >>person also
known as jabriol.

In article <dnf0qs02kqh@drn.newsguy.com>, Vance Liscomb says...


You have the wrong address. He lives with Norma I. Santanta

(born

September
1959) and his address is:

Antonio L. (and Norma) Santana
1064 Everett Street
Camden, NJ
(856) 968-0004

His phone number is listed under A. Santana. He was born 1961.

Oddly enough he lives across the street from the West Jersey

Hospital.


There are two Kingdom Halls in the area:

1584 S 8th St
Camden, NJ 08104-1469
(856) 365-0065

417 Walnut St
Camden, NJ 08103-2033
(856) 365-4457

Remember, Kingdom Halls are just buildings. There may be more

than one

congregation using the same KH.

I doubt that he is a Jehovah's Witness, so you might want to

ask for Norma

Santana as well when you call.


I called the 856-365-0065 number but it was changed to:

856-964-6712

A recording with a lady's voice with a Spanish accent asked me to leave a
message. This is a home phone - probably that of an elder in a Spanish
congregation. The 1584 S 8th St Kingdom Hall is only a few blocks from
where
Antonio lives.

Regards Vance
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-282.newsdawg.com
--------------------------------------
"Blak" aka Antonio L Santana aka Jabriol aka <skin@color.org> wrote in
message news:m%gwg.141$6G3.25@trnddc05...

Köi-Lö wrote:


================
It's all "copy and paste" from Watchtower publications........ yawn.
:-O Posting it here is a sneaky way to get innocent people to read their
publications and hopefully snag a few converts.


Here is what none Jw's think of Carol.


news:9KVvg.15515$A8.1851@trnddc02...

He has repeatedly demonstrated that Carol is an
inveterate liar

.



User: "cactus"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 21 Jul 2006 08:35:22 PM
Greywolf wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...

BEFORE starting your activities each morning, do you glance in a mirror to
check your appearance? You may not have time to be contemplative then. But
take a moment now to marvel at what is involved as you take such a simple
glance.

Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life. The position of your ears gives you
stereophonic hearing; thus you can locate the source of sounds, such as
the voice of a loved one. We may take that for granted, yet a book for
sound engineers comments: “In considering the human hearing system in any
depth, however, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that its
intricate functions and structures indicate some beneficent hand in its
design.”

Your nose also manifests marvelous design. Through it you can breathe air,
which keeps you alive. Also, it has millions of sense receptors, enabling
you to discern some 10,000 nuances of smell. As you enjoy a meal, another
sense comes into play. Thousands of taste buds convey flavors to you.
Other receptors on your tongue help you to feel if your teeth are clean.

Yes, you have five senses—sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch.
Granted, some animals have keener night vision, more sensitive smell, or
more acute hearing, but man’s balance of these senses certainly allows him
to excel in many ways.

Let us, though, consider why we can benefit from these abilities and
capacities. All of them depend on the three-pound [1.4 kg] organ inside
our head—our brain. Animals have functioning brains. Still, the human
brain is in a class by itself, making us undeniably unique. How so? And
how does this uniqueness relate to our interest in having a meaningful,
lasting life?


I look up at night sky and see countless stars. I stand in awe and
amazement. That proves Jesus/God exists, right? Absolutely proves it beyond
a shadow of a doubt, right? Your ancestors 'believed' in quite the same way.
Only *they* believed in any number of gods. Where did *they* go wrong?

Greywolf


The last time I was in Las Vegas I was awestruck at the monument to
human nature. Does that constitute evidence of a god or gods?
.
User: "=?Windows-1252?B?S/ZpLUz2?="

Title: Re: Design or chance? 21 Jul 2006 11:21:35 PM
"cactus" <bm1@nonespam.com> wrote in message
news:uhfwg.70893$Lm5.69862@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...


The last time I was in Las Vegas I was awestruck at the monument to human
nature. Does that constitute evidence of a god or gods?

=============
The last time I was at St. Judes hospital for children and saw many
suffering dying children was that evidence for a god who wouldn't forgive an
unevolved pair of early hominids who were tricked and beguiled? What a
sorry sadistic god to allow such misery and suffering for 7000 years because
he refuses to forgive........
--
Alice in Watchtowerland....
"Beware of 'organization.' It is wholly un-necessary. The
Bible will be the only rules you need. Do not seek to bind
other consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours.
Believe and obey so far as you can understand God's word
today, and so continue to growing in grace and knowledge
day by day." - Zion's Watch Tower, 1895, p. 216
~~<~~{@
http://www.intrex.net/talley/list7_13.html
So many sheep, so much fleecing.
.



User: "TimK"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 22 Jul 2006 07:08:56 PM
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...

Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life.

*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see when
they are ripe comes in real handy.
Why bother reading that dross any further...
.
User: "TimK"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 23 Jul 2006 02:40:13 PM
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:V4Lwg.2172$fL3.1115@trnddc07...

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life.


*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see when
they are ripe comes in real handy.


But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.

Hey moron, there are fruits that are fine when ripe and VERY POISONOUS when
not ripe.
That's the point that sailed over your empty head.
idiot
.

User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?S/ZpLUz2?="

Title: Re: Design or chance? 23 Jul 2006 05:33:43 PM
"Randy Day" <randy.day@shaw.cax> wrote in message
news:J4Mwg.219566$iF6.114220@pd7tw2no...


Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

That's what happens to you if you can't
tell the ripe fruit from the unripe fruit
on the savannah.

Or you simply starve to death because you can't see the yellow, orange and
red fruit among the green leaves on the trees and bushes around you. You
couldn't see those tasty high calorie brown nuts among the green leaves
either........
--
KL...
What the world needs is not dogma but an attitude of scientific
inquiry combined with a belief that the torture of millions is
not desirable, whether inflicted by Stalin or by a Deity imagined
in the likeness of the believer. ~ Bertrand Russell ~
~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ ~~ * ~~
.

User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?S/ZpLUz2?="

Title: Re: Design or chance? 22 Jul 2006 08:28:02 PM
"TimK" <timkozz@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:s6zwg.1479$Ch5.470@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...


"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life.


*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see when
they are ripe comes in real handy.
Why bother reading that dross any further...

Worse yet it's C&P from the WTS's CD and fed to people here as a regular
message. It's like hiding a bitter pill in orange juice so we don't realize
what we're ingesting. But he gets TIME on his WTS "time-card" for this.
It's a form of proselytizing for the WTS.
--
KL.......
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as
erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin."
[Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo]
================================
.

User: "Blak"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 23 Jul 2006 11:14:13 AM
Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though
color vision is not vital to life.



*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see
when they are ripe comes in real handy.


But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.


Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion
food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think
maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?
.
User: "TimK"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 23 Jul 2006 02:42:49 PM
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life.



*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see
when they are ripe comes in real handy.


But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.


Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!


So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion food.
Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think maybe his
hide is a bit too thick for Simba?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot
.
User: "Blak"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 23 Jul 2006 06:02:31 PM
TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life.


*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see
when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.

Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion food.
Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think maybe his
hide is a bit too thick for Simba?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot


Your point is?
.
User: "TimK"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 23 Jul 2006 06:40:21 PM
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:beTwg.2274$fL3.430@trnddc07...

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though
color vision is not vital to life.


*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see
when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.

Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion
food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think
maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot


Your point is?

If you'd taken the time to read it you'd know, fuckwit.
.

User: "Masked Avenger"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 24 Jul 2006 04:10:29 AM
Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though
color vision is not vital to life.



*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to
see when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.


Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion
food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think
maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot


Your point is?

***** you are dense Jabbers ......... I've seen smarter microbes .......
no wonder you're a JW ........
--
MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....
Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
.............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein
.
User: "Blak"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 24 Jul 2006 06:05:14 AM
Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though
color vision is not vital to life.



*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to
see when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.


Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion
food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think
maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot


Your point is?


***** you are dense Jabbers ......... I've seen smarter microbes .......
no wonder you're a JW ........

I read the article and it was not a first. Now what is your point? It
seems that color blind people can survive just like anyone else. Many
housewives go by touch more than color to know if a fruit is ripe.
making the argument that Color is needed for human life. It is not.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 24 Jul 2006 06:48:36 AM
"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:KP1xg.2616$fL3.319@trnddc07...

Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though
color vision is not vital to life.



*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see
when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.


Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion
food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think
maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot


Your point is?


***** you are dense Jabbers ......... I've seen smarter microbes .......
no wonder you're a JW ........


I read the article and it was not a first. Now what is your point? It
seems that color blind people can survive just like anyone else. Many
housewives go by touch more than color to know if a fruit is ripe. making
the argument that Color is needed for human life. It is not.

Fine. See that black spider over there with the little red hour glass on
it's abdomen that you can't see because color isn't important? Go pick it
up.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
.
User: "Blak"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 24 Jul 2006 08:38:44 PM
Robibnikoff wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message news:KP1xg.2616$fL3.319@trnddc07...

Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though
color vision is not vital to life.


*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to see
when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.

Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion
food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think
maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot

Your point is?

***** you are dense Jabbers ......... I've seen smarter microbes .......
no wonder you're a JW ........

I read the article and it was not a first. Now what is your point? It
seems that color blind people can survive just like anyone else. Many
housewives go by touch more than color to know if a fruit is ripe. making
the argument that Color is needed for human life. It is not.


Fine. See that black spider over there with the little red hour glass on
it's abdomen that you can't see because color isn't important? Go pick it
up.

People stay away from spiders anyway. And while they can't see color,
they can see shades of grey.
Try again.
.
User: "Masked Avenger"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 26 Jul 2006 04:25:12 AM
Blak wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:KP1xg.2616$fL3.319@trnddc07...

Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even
though color vision is not vital to life.



*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able
to see when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.


Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became
lion food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102.
You think maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot

Your point is?


***** you are dense Jabbers ......... I've seen smarter microbes
....... no wonder you're a JW ........

I read the article and it was not a first. Now what is your point? It
seems that color blind people can survive just like anyone else. Many
housewives go by touch more than color to know if a fruit is ripe.
making the argument that Color is needed for human life. It is not.



Fine. See that black spider over there with the little red hour glass
on it's abdomen that you can't see because color isn't important? Go
pick it up.



People stay away from spiders anyway. And while they can't see color,
they can see shades of grey.

Try again.

One more time for the criminally dense ( that's you Jabbers ) .....
Colour blindness is not necessarily a huge problem today ....... because
we have evolved ways around it ..... but there was a time many hundreds
of thousands of years ago when it would have been a huge disadvantage to
survival ...... humans are not living in a society where it really
matters, but they once were ......
Your appendix is a worse than useless organ ...... we don't need it any
more ....... there was a time when we did need it, but not now .......
yet we still have it........ or maybe you can explain why 'god' designed
it into us ....... my appendix nearly killed me .......
--
MA ....Yoiks .... and away .....
Only two things are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity
.............. and I'm not sure about the Universe ..........
- A. Einstein
.
User: "Blak"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 26 Jul 2006 07:08:35 AM
Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:KP1xg.2616$fL3.319@trnddc07...

Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even
though color vision is not vital to life.



*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able
to see when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.


Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became
lion food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102.
You think maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot

Your point is?


***** you are dense Jabbers ......... I've seen smarter microbes
....... no wonder you're a JW ........

I read the article and it was not a first. Now what is your point?
It seems that color blind people can survive just like anyone else.
Many housewives go by touch more than color to know if a fruit is
ripe. making the argument that Color is needed for human life. It is
not.



Fine. See that black spider over there with the little red hour
glass on it's abdomen that you can't see because color isn't
important? Go pick it up.



People stay away from spiders anyway. And while they can't see color,
they can see shades of grey.

Try again.


One more time for the criminally dense ( that's you Jabbers ) .....
Colour blindness is not necessarily a huge problem today ....... because
we have evolved ways around it ..

How? using glasses? Why not selected out of the gene pool
.... but there was a time many hundreds

of thousands of years ago when it would have been a huge disadvantage to
survival ....

Why? MAny animal are color blind, and it does not affec them at all.
... humans are not living in a society where it really

matters, but they once were ......

Again why?

Your appendix is a worse than useless organ ...... we don't need it any
more ....... there was a time when we did need it, but not now .......
yet we still have it........ or maybe you can explain why 'god' designed
it into us ....... my appendix nearly killed me .......

I will next time he pays me a visit.. and if you chewed your food
properly, you would still have your appendix


.
User: "cactus"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 26 Jul 2006 09:37:18 PM
Blak wrote:

Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

Robibnikoff wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:KP1xg.2616$fL3.319@trnddc07...

Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even
though color vision is not vital to life.



*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able
to see when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.


Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became
lion food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102.
You think maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot

Your point is?


***** you are dense Jabbers ......... I've seen smarter microbes
....... no wonder you're a JW ........

I read the article and it was not a first. Now what is your point?
It seems that color blind people can survive just like anyone else.
Many housewives go by touch more than color to know if a fruit is
ripe. making the argument that Color is needed for human life. It
is not.



Fine. See that black spider over there with the little red hour
glass on it's abdomen that you can't see because color isn't
important? Go pick it up.



People stay away from spiders anyway. And while they can't see color,
they can see shades of grey.

Try again.


One more time for the criminally dense ( that's you Jabbers ) .....
Colour blindness is not necessarily a huge problem today .......
because we have evolved ways around it ..


How? using glasses? Why not selected out of the gene pool

... but there was a time many hundreds

of thousands of years ago when it would have been a huge disadvantage
to survival ....


Why? MAny animal are color blind, and it does not affec them at all.

.. humans are not living in a society where it really

matters, but they once were ......


Again why?

Your appendix is a worse than useless organ ...... we don't need it
any more ....... there was a time when we did need it, but not now
....... yet we still have it........ or maybe you can explain why
'god' designed it into us ....... my appendix nearly killed me .......


I will next time he pays me a visit.. and if you chewed your food
properly, you would still have your appendix


Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Your favorite fallacy.
.





User: "Josh Miles"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 25 Jul 2006 06:15:42 AM
Blak wrote:

Masked Avenger wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:pfNwg.5928$yN3.1084@trnddc04...

Randy Day wrote:

Blak wrote:

TimK wrote:

"Blak" <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...


Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though
color vision is not vital to life.


*****. Our ancestors ate a lot of fruits, and being able to
see when they are ripe comes in real handy.

But not necessary. Which is the point; that went over your head.

Of course it's 'necessary' you stupid git.

Any organism trying to live in the primate
environment - that didn't have color
vision - wound up laying on on the ground
with bad stomach cramps waiting for the
lions to eat it!

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion
food. Got it. Oh.. my Dad is color blind and is about 102. You think
maybe his hide is a bit too thick for Simba?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
Idiot

Your point is?

***** you are dense Jabbers ......... I've seen smarter microbes .......
no wonder you're a JW ........


I read the article and it was not a first. Now what is your point? It
seems that color blind people can survive just like anyone else. Many
housewives go by touch more than color to know if a fruit is ripe.
making the argument that Color is needed for human life. It is not.

It is not absolutely necessary. It does, however, provide a tremendous
survival advantage.
.





User: "teresita"

Title: Re: Design or chance? 23 Jul 2006 12:29:38 PM
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 16:14:13 +0000, Blak wrote:

So all those people who were born color blind since Lucy became lion
food.

Aslan ate Lucy Pevensie? I'm SO disappointed.
--
Teresita
http://encyclopediateresita.blogspot.com/
.



User: "=?Windows-1252?B?S/ZpLUz2?="

Title: Re: Design or chance? Net-Stalker "Blak" hides from other groups. 21 Jul 2006 06:38:03 PM
"Blak" <skin@color.org>aka "Antonio L Santana" aka Jabriol (NET STALKER OF
CAROL
GULLEY)<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message
news:f61e0e1e0607211009r21edd0f8w741a9da6d451f3fa@mail.gmail.com...
.......was reported to the Police in both NJ and TN for net stalking and
general harassment. The Watchtower Society calls this harassment and
endangerment of others their "Theocratic Warfare Strategy."
From Antonio L Santana's own brother JW: Vance Liscomb
<Vance_member@newsguy.com> Jehovah's
Witness:
Subject: Re: For Carolyn Gulley (Correction)

Aware that Antonio L. Santana <ReelMckoi@mailinator.com> is

searching for someone to murder the Gulley family I post this in
the hope it saves her life from this homicidal >>person also
known as jabriol.

In article <dnf0qs02kqh@drn.newsguy.com>, Vance Liscomb says...


You have the wrong address. He lives with Norma I. Santanta

(born

September
1959) and his address is:

Antonio L. (and Norma) Santana
1064 Everett Street
Camden, NJ
(856) 968-0004

His phone number is listed under A. Santana. He was born 1961.

Oddly enough he lives across the street from the West Jersey

Hospital.


There are two Kingdom Halls in the area:

1584 S 8th St
Camden, NJ 08104-1469
(856) 365-0065

417 Walnut St
Camden, NJ 08103-2033
(856) 365-4457

Remember, Kingdom Halls are just buildings. There may be more

than one

congregation using the same KH.

I doubt that he is a Jehovah's Witness, so you might want to

ask for Norma

Santana as well when you call.


I called the 856-365-0065 number but it was changed to:

856-964-6712

A recording with a lady's voice with a Spanish accent asked me to leave a
message. This is a home phone - probably that of an elder in a Spanish
congregation. The 1584 S 8th St Kingdom Hall is only a few blocks from
where
Antonio lives.

It's possible that the information that you've been posting about Antonio
has
been wrong all along.

Regards Vance
NNTP-Posting-Host: p-282.newsdawg.com
"Blak" aka JABRIOL <skin@color.org> wrote in message
news:Ep4wg.60$V74.26@trnddc08...

BEFORE starting your activities each morning, do you glance in a mirror to
check your appearance? You may not have time to be contemplative then. But
take a moment now to marvel at what is involved as you take such a simple
glance.

.

User: "Jim07D6"

Title: Re: TOBS: Design or chance? 21 Jul 2006 09:12:56 AM
Blak <skin@color.org> said:

And
how does this uniqueness relate to our interest in having a meaningful,
lasting life?

It doesn't.
--- Jim07D6
.

User: "Chris H. Fleming"

Title: Re: TOBS: Design or chance? 25 Jul 2006 07:46:25 AM
Blak wrote:

BEFORE starting your activities each morning, do you glance in a mirror
to check your appearance? You may not have time to be contemplative
then. But take a moment now to marvel at what is involved as you take
such a simple glance.

Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life. The position of your ears gives you
stereophonic hearing; thus you can locate the source of sounds, such as
the voice of a loved one. We may take that for granted, yet a book for
sound engineers comments: "In considering the human hearing system in
any depth, however, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that its
intricate functions and structures indicate some beneficent hand in its
design."

Your nose also manifests marvelous design. Through it you can breathe
air, which keeps you alive. Also, it has millions of sense receptors,
enabling you to discern some 10,000 nuances of smell. As you enjoy a
meal, another sense comes into play. Thousands of taste buds convey
flavors to you. Other receptors on your tongue help you to feel if your
teeth are clean.

Yes, you have five senses-sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch.
Granted, some animals have keener night vision, more sensitive smell, or
more acute hearing, but man's balance of these senses certainly allows
him to excel in many ways.

Let us, though, consider why we can benefit from these abilities and
capacities. All of them depend on the three-pound [1.4 kg] organ inside
our head-our brain. Animals have functioning brains. Still, the human
brain is in a class by itself, making us undeniably unique. How so? And
how does this uniqueness relate to our interest in having a meaningful,
lasting life?

Your appendix, having no function but can potentially kill you, is
quite the marvelous organ. You can be rest assured that God has great
plans in the future for this organ. Perhaps it will be activated when
Jesus returns, so we can all go back to eating grass like the lions did
in the Garden of Eden.
Your wisdom teeth also manifest marvelous design. Now what could God
have meant them for? Oh yes, God obviously wanted orthodontists to be
profitable.
Your body hair, which can't keep you warm, and goose bumps, which can't
fluff up your furr. These are all wonderful things that God meant for
us to have for reasons that only he knows.
The muscles connected to your ears, while they do not allow for
directional hearing like some other primates, they do allow for the
occasional party trick by persons well versed in their utility.
Man nipples. God made sure well all had nipples if we needed then them
or not. Obviously God really likes nipples because some people even get
more than 2! I bet the Angels are covered in nipples.
The plica semilunaris in the corner of your eye. It does nothing now,
but when God turns it on, we might get a nicitating membrane. Maybe
when Jesus returns we will get to live underwater. Maybe the Garden of
Eden is underwater and that's why we can't find it.
It's AMAZING!!!!
.

User: "Josh Miles"

Title: Re: TOBS: Design or chance? 21 Jul 2006 08:28:14 AM
Blak wrote:

BEFORE starting your activities each morning, do you glance in a mirror
to check your appearance? You may not have time to be contemplative
then. But take a moment now to marvel at what is involved as you take
such a simple glance.

Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life. The position of your ears gives you
stereophonic hearing; thus you can locate the source of sounds, such as
the voice of a loved one. We may take that for granted, yet a book for
sound engineers comments: “In considering the human hearing system in
any depth, however, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that its
intricate functions and structures indicate some beneficent hand in its
design.”

Argument from incredulity.
No one in the biological community argues that life arose by chance.
That's just another creationist straw man.
.
User: "Blak"

Title: Re: TOBS: Design or chance? 21 Jul 2006 07:28:15 PM
Josh Miles wrote:

Blak wrote:

BEFORE starting your activities each morning, do you glance in a
mirror to check your appearance? You may not have time to be
contemplative then. But take a moment now to marvel at what is
involved as you take such a simple glance.

Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life. The position of your ears gives you
stereophonic hearing; thus you can locate the source of sounds, such
as the voice of a loved one. We may take that for granted, yet a book
for sound engineers comments: “In considering the human hearing system
in any depth, however, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that
its intricate functions and structures indicate some beneficent hand
in its design.”


Argument from incredulity.

No one in the biological community argues that life arose by chance.

ah yes Abiogensis was directed by some intelligence... got it.
.
User: "Josh Miles"

Title: Re: TOBS: Design or chance? 22 Jul 2006 12:51:39 AM
Blak wrote:

Josh Miles wrote:

Blak wrote:

BEFORE starting your activities each morning, do you glance in a
mirror to check your appearance? You may not have time to be
contemplative then. But take a moment now to marvel at what is
involved as you take such a simple glance.

Your eyes enable you to view yourself in full color, even though color
vision is not vital to life. The position of your ears gives you
stereophonic hearing; thus you can locate the source of sounds, such
as the voice of a loved one. We may take that for granted, yet a book
for sound engineers comments: “In considering the human hearing system
in any depth, however, it is difficult to escape the conclusion that
its intricate functions and structures indicate some beneficent hand
in its design.”

Argument from incredulity.

No one in the biological community argues that life arose by chance.


ah yes Abiogensis was directed by some intelligence... got it.

Abiogenesis has nothing to do with the theory of evolution.
.
User: "=?Windows-1252?B?V+tuZONsZW4=?="

Title: Re: TOBS: Design or chance? 22 Jul 2006 12:02:32 PM
"Josh Miles" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
news:crKdnW3w59l4IVzZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@sigecom.net...

Blak wrote:

ah yes Abiogensis was directed by some intelligence... got it.


Abiogenesis has nothing to do with the theory of evolution.

Ah yes,.... but it got you to *read* the C&P nonsence from the Watchtower
literature and reply! This is a new technique used by the JWs to get their
propaganda read by non-JWs and hopefully get converts. So far every reply
to the WTS literature has been NEGATIVE.
-
WE........
http://silentlambs.org
http://www.cultwatch.com/jw.html
www.freeminds.org
http://dbhome.dk/carlo/ secret Elder's Manual
~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~* ~~*
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