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04 Apr 2006 06:42:40 AM |
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ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy |
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth. So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy |
04 Apr 2006 07:02:50 PM |
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"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144150960.749239.89220
@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth. So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
In other words the story is no different to those of any other primitive
bronze age tribes.
Klazmon.
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| User: "SlammerPendragon" |
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04 Apr 2006 09:34:04 PM |
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Llanzlan Klazmon wrote:
"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144150960.749239.89220
@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth. So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
In other words the story is no different to those of any other primitive
bronze age tribes.
Klazmon.
Care to show us the stories from other Primitive Bronze age tribes...
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy |
04 Apr 2006 10:19:05 PM |
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"SlammerPendragon" <JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1144204444.293539.284220@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
Llanzlan Klazmon wrote:
"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144150960.749239.89220
@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth. So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers
had they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events
on the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
In other words the story is no different to those of any other
primitive bronze age tribes.
Klazmon.
Care to show us the stories from other Primitive Bronze age tribes...
Epic of Gilgamesh:
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/gilgamesh/
Enuma Elish:
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/mesopotamian/enuma.html
Book of the Dead:
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/egyptian/bookodead/index.html
Bhagavad Gita:
http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/indian/gita/index.html
You can add the Lliad and the Odyssey
There are several more. Is there any other aspect of your ignorance you
would like cured?
Klazmon
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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05 Apr 2006 10:54:51 PM |
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SlammerPendragon wrote:
Llanzlan Klazmon wrote:
"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in news:1144150960.749239.89220
@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth. So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
In other words the story is no different to those of any other primitive
bronze age tribes.
Klazmon.
Care to show us the stories from other Primitive Bronze age tribes...
===>Read any book about creation myths. -- L.
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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05 Apr 2006 10:50:09 PM |
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Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) -- L.
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| User: "SlammerPendragon" |
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06 Apr 2006 06:11:16 AM |
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Libertarius wrote:
Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) -- L.
Let look deeper into this, the first part of Genesis indicates that the
earth could have existed for billions of years before the first Genesis
"day," though it does not say for how long. However, it does
describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day"
began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was
darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force
was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."-Genesis 1:2.
Would this comform to the theory that the planet was submerged into
water from the very start?
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| User: "Libertarius" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. |
06 Apr 2006 11:26:34 AM |
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SlammerPendragon wrote:
Libertarius wrote:
Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) -- L.
Let look deeper into this, the first part of Genesis indicates that the
earth could have existed for billions of years before the first Genesis
"day," though it does not say for how long.
===>If you mean the formless watery mass (ERETZ) from which the entire
"universe" was formed, yes indeed, it does not say when or if it was created
by anyone.
However, it does
describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day"
began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was
darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force
was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."-Genesis 1:2.
===>A better translation is by the Hebrew scholars of the JPS TANAKH.
It says a "wind from God" was over the waters.
Would this comform to the theory that the planet was submerged into
water from the very start?
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?0G/Wb1o=?=" |
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06 Apr 2006 01:38:04 PM |
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"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
==================
Jehovah's Witnesses like Rampart (aka Jabriol) are not allowed to use the
word "extraterrestrials" in any conversations regarding creation. It brings
images of little green men and UFOs we were told. Visions of seeding the
planet earth from elsewhere. All JWs believe in a creation that only took
7000 years, not 7 days. We were taught this because the bible says, "A
thousand years to Jehovah is as one day to man." Should a JW tell his/her
elders that's absurd, they would be DFed and shunned like lepers.
--
Do.........
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~ }<{{{{{Ò> ~~~~ }<((({ö> ~~~~
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| User: "Rampart" |
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06 Apr 2006 02:50:08 PM |
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=D0o=D6oZ wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
=3D=3D=3D>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Jehovah's Witnesses like Rampart (aka Jabriol) are not allowed to use the
word "extraterrestrials" in any conversations regarding creation.
Conclusive evidence that Carol never read a thread, she only jumps on
it to Bash JW's.
If she would have read the thread she would know exactly where the
thread is going towards.
Therfore Carol please continue to look the moron in front of thousands.
And to embarras you eve further, I would say That Jesus Christ was an
Extraterrestial.
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| User: "Starlord" |
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06 Apr 2006 04:45:20 PM |
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time for the Super Massive Cyber Black Hole to pull you in so as to not
darken my screen anymore.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
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"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144353008.413512.13490@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
ÐoÖoZ wrote:
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
==================
Jehovah's Witnesses like Rampart (aka Jabriol) are not allowed to use the
word "extraterrestrials" in any conversations regarding creation.
Conclusive evidence that Carol never read a thread, she only jumps on
it to Bash JW's.
If she would have read the thread she would know exactly where the
thread is going towards.
Therfore Carol please continue to look the moron in front of thousands.
And to embarras you eve further, I would say That Jesus Christ was an
Extraterrestial.
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?0G/Wb1o=?=" |
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06 Apr 2006 10:27:43 PM |
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"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote in message
news:MYidnZHhofqBEajZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@inreach.com...
time for the Super Massive Cyber Black Hole to pull you in so as to not
darken my screen anymore.
==================
Don't bother because he's really JABRIOL from ARJ-W, a Jehovah's Witness
netstalking Carol across Usenet. He changes his nym several times a day to
avoid killfiles and hide his identity from his "brothers and sisters".
Check the headers - if the post is from a @gmail account or @Mailinator and
posted through Google - it's JABRIOL. If you notice he can't post more than
two messages without mentioning his victim's name. You'll also note he
picks new nyms that sound powerful like Slammer, Darkskull, Rampart etc. A
sure sign of someone who feels powerless in his RL as so many JWs are.
Looking at headers you can even see him replying to his own messages using a
different nym.
--
Do....
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage.....
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bored
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eating
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
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| User: "Rampart" |
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07 Apr 2006 06:17:07 AM |
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Hi Carol...
doesnt anyone find it interesting that Carol reads every single post.
Is that obsession or what. It must be terrible to have Jabriol in her
head 24/7.
=D0o=D6oZ wrote:
"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote in message
news:MYidnZHhofqBEajZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@inreach.com...
time for the Super Massive Cyber Black Hole to pull you in so as to not
darken my screen anymore.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Don't bother because he's really JABRIOL from ARJ-W, a Jehovah's Witness
netstalking Carol across Usenet. He changes his nym several times a day=
to
avoid killfiles and hide his identity from his "brothers and sisters".
Check the headers - if the post is from a @gmail account or @Mailinator a=
nd
posted through Google - it's JABRIOL. If you notice he can't post more t=
han
two messages without mentioning his victim's name. You'll also note he
picks new nyms that sound powerful like Slammer, Darkskull, Rampart etc. =
A
sure sign of someone who feels powerless in his RL as so many JWs are.
Looking at headers you can even see him replying to his own messages usin=
g a
different nym.
--
Do....
All the JWs wish for is walking around the COUNTRYSIDE (never any towns
pictured in the WT rags) smiling like the village idiot and carrying
baskets of veggies and fruit with them. Also note they all live in suit
pants and dress shirts. The women live in housedresses of 1952 vintage..=
..=2E.
and they call that paradise? Any normal human being would rapidly be bor=
ed
to death looking at trees, grass, each other's ever smiling faces and eat=
ing
a vegetarian diet.
They'd soon be longing for a good book, a movie, a Mall or a steak
dinner..... (Carol)
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| User: "Starlord" |
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06 Apr 2006 04:43:32 PM |
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jehovah witless's never but never darken my doorstep, when I smell them
coming into this trailer park, I place my Stars and Strips on it's poll out
by my gate and then never cross that line.
I've a Vietnam Vet and I'm proud to display my countys flag.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"ÐoÖoZ" <watch@thistime.net> wrote in message
news:44356edb$0$20103$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere.com...
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
==================
Jehovah's Witnesses like Rampart (aka Jabriol) are not allowed to use the
word "extraterrestrials" in any conversations regarding creation. It
brings images of little green men and UFOs we were told. Visions of
seeding the planet earth from elsewhere. All JWs believe in a creation
that only took 7000 years, not 7 days. We were taught this because the
bible says, "A thousand years to Jehovah is as one day to man." Should a
JW tell his/her elders that's absurd, they would be DFed and shunned like
lepers.
--
Do.........
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
~~~~ }<((((o> ~~~~ }<{{{{{Ò> ~~~~ }<((({ö> ~~~~
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| User: "Starlord" |
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06 Apr 2006 01:17:01 PM |
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Oh! Now we have ET's visting Earth, and I'd bet they never saw the super
land mass that was to become all the land mass's that we see today.
186,000 MPS, not just a good Idea, it's the LAW.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
SlammerPendragon wrote:
Libertarius wrote:
Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers
had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) -- L.
Let look deeper into this, the first part of Genesis indicates that the
earth could have existed for billions of years before the first Genesis
"day," though it does not say for how long.
===>If you mean the formless watery mass (ERETZ) from which the entire
"universe" was formed, yes indeed, it does not say when or if it was
created
by anyone.
However, it does
describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day"
began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was
darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force
was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."-Genesis 1:2.
===>A better translation is by the Hebrew scholars of the JPS TANAKH.
It says a "wind from God" was over the waters.
Would this comform to the theory that the planet was submerged into
water from the very start?
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
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| User: "Rampart" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. |
06 Apr 2006 01:28:26 PM |
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Wait, are you saying God was Born on Earth? LOL
But you are getting close to my point. Anyone ever considered that what
is written in Genesis describe a teraforming event?
No magic.. advance technology.
Starlord wrote:
Oh! Now we have ET's visting Earth, and I'd bet they never saw the super
land mass that was to become all the land mass's that we see today.
186,000 MPS, not just a good Idea, it's the LAW.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
SlammerPendragon wrote:
Libertarius wrote:
Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers
had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth, the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) -- L.
Let look deeper into this, the first part of Genesis indicates that the
earth could have existed for billions of years before the first Genesis
"day," though it does not say for how long.
===>If you mean the formless watery mass (ERETZ) from which the entire
"universe" was formed, yes indeed, it does not say when or if it was
created
by anyone.
However, it does
describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day"
began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was
darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force
was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."-Genesis 1:2.
===>A better translation is by the Hebrew scholars of the JPS TANAKH.
It says a "wind from God" was over the waters.
Would this comform to the theory that the planet was submerged into
water from the very start?
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
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06 Apr 2006 04:39:34 PM |
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I do NOT belive in any so called 'GOD", when I look out into the vast
endless sea of Stars with my telescope, and I think of the 3 to 5 billion
stars just within our own galaxy and then I think about the billions of
galaxys that have even mosr Stars which may have planets in orbit around
them and someone trys to tell me one so called all powerfull god made all of
this? Nope, no way will that ever wash with me.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
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"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144348106.750109.146880@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Wait, are you saying God was Born on Earth? LOL
But you are getting close to my point. Anyone ever considered that what
is written in Genesis describe a teraforming event?
No magic.. advance technology.
Starlord wrote:
Oh! Now we have ET's visting Earth, and I'd bet they never saw the super
land mass that was to become all the land mass's that we see today.
186,000 MPS, not just a good Idea, it's the LAW.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
SlammerPendragon wrote:
Libertarius wrote:
Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in
mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human
observers
had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events
on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are
far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison
to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth,
the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the
moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) --
L.
Let look deeper into this, the first part of Genesis indicates that
the
earth could have existed for billions of years before the first
Genesis
"day," though it does not say for how long.
===>If you mean the formless watery mass (ERETZ) from which the entire
"universe" was formed, yes indeed, it does not say when or if it was
created
by anyone.
However, it does
describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day"
began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was
darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force
was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."-Genesis 1:2.
===>A better translation is by the Hebrew scholars of the JPS TANAKH.
It says a "wind from God" was over the waters.
Would this comform to the theory that the planet was submerged into
water from the very start?
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
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06 Apr 2006 08:28:49 PM |
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"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote in message
news:MYidnZfhofqKEajZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@inreach.com...
I do NOT belive in any so called 'GOD", when I look out into the vast
/snip!
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| User: "Phil Cav" |
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07 Apr 2006 08:46:58 AM |
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Oh,that's right, it all happened by accident. That seems more logical.
Riiiigggghhhht.
"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote in message
news:MYidnZfhofqKEajZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@inreach.com...
I do NOT belive in any so called 'GOD", when I look out into the vast
endless sea of Stars with my telescope, and I think of the 3 to 5 billion
stars just within our own galaxy and then I think about the billions of
galaxys that have even mosr Stars which may have planets in orbit around
them and someone trys to tell me one so called all powerfull god made all
of this? Nope, no way will that ever wash with me.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144348106.750109.146880@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Wait, are you saying God was Born on Earth? LOL
But you are getting close to my point. Anyone ever considered that what
is written in Genesis describe a teraforming event?
No magic.. advance technology.
Starlord wrote:
Oh! Now we have ET's visting Earth, and I'd bet they never saw the super
land mass that was to become all the land mass's that we see today.
186,000 MPS, not just a good Idea, it's the LAW.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
SlammerPendragon wrote:
Libertarius wrote:
Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in
mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on
earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human
observers
had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events
on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are
far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison
to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth,
the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the
moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) --
L.
Let look deeper into this, the first part of Genesis indicates that
the
earth could have existed for billions of years before the first
Genesis
"day," though it does not say for how long.
===>If you mean the formless watery mass (ERETZ) from which the entire
"universe" was formed, yes indeed, it does not say when or if it was
created
by anyone.
However, it does
describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day"
began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was
darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force
was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."-Genesis 1:2.
===>A better translation is by the Hebrew scholars of the JPS TANAKH.
It says a "wind from God" was over the waters.
Would this comform to the theory that the planet was submerged into
water from the very start?
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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07 Apr 2006 08:54:13 AM |
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Phil Cav wrote:
Oh,that's right, it all happened by accident. That seems more logical.
Riiiigggghhhht.
Accident? I don't believe that is was Starlord was saying. But, thanks
for putting words in his mouth.
Oh, and top-posting is rude.
"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote in message
news:MYidnZfhofqKEajZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@inreach.com...
I do NOT belive in any so called 'GOD", when I look out into the vast
endless sea of Stars with my telescope, and I think of the 3 to 5 billion
stars just within our own galaxy and then I think about the billions of
galaxys that have even mosr Stars which may have planets in orbit around
them and someone trys to tell me one so called all powerfull god made all
of this? Nope, no way will that ever wash with me.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144348106.750109.146880@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Wait, are you saying God was Born on Earth? LOL
But you are getting close to my point. Anyone ever considered that what
is written in Genesis describe a teraforming event?
No magic.. advance technology.
Starlord wrote:
Oh! Now we have ET's visting Earth, and I'd bet they never saw the super
land mass that was to become all the land mass's that we see today.
186,000 MPS, not just a good Idea, it's the LAW.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
SlammerPendragon wrote:
Libertarius wrote:
Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in
mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on
earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human
observers
had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events
on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are
far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison
to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth,
the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the
moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) --
L.
Let look deeper into this, the first part of Genesis indicates that
the
earth could have existed for billions of years before the first
Genesis
"day," though it does not say for how long.
===>If you mean the formless watery mass (ERETZ) from which the entire
"universe" was formed, yes indeed, it does not say when or if it was
created
by anyone.
However, it does
describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day"
began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was
darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force
was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."-Genesis 1:2.
===>A better translation is by the Hebrew scholars of the JPS TANAKH.
It says a "wind from God" was over the waters.
Would this comform to the theory that the planet was submerged into
water from the very start?
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
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| User: "Koi-Lo" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. |
07 Apr 2006 09:56:13 AM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:44366d8e$0$15298$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com...
Phil Cav wrote:
Oh,that's right, it all happened by accident. That seems more logical.
Riiiigggghhhht.
Accident? I don't believe that is was Starlord was saying. But, thanks
==============
Please check your newsgroup line. Do you keep fish and a ponds? If so, we
would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the "rec.ponds"
NG from your replies to this off-topic cross-posted thread. Our fish are
nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "Phil Cav" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. |
07 Apr 2006 09:23:00 AM |
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I'm a top poster and LOVIN IT! THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:44366d8e$0$15298$6d36acad@taz.nntpserver.com...
Phil Cav wrote:
Oh,that's right, it all happened by accident. That seems more logical.
Riiiigggghhhht.
Accident? I don't believe that is was Starlord was saying. But, thanks
for putting words in his mouth.
Oh, and top-posting is rude.
"Starlord" <starlord@sidewalkastronomy.info> wrote in message
news:MYidnZfhofqKEajZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@inreach.com...
I do NOT belive in any so called 'GOD", when I look out into the vast
endless sea of Stars with my telescope, and I think of the 3 to 5 billion
stars just within our own galaxy and then I think about the billions of
galaxys that have even mosr Stars which may have planets in orbit around
them and someone trys to tell me one so called all powerfull god made all
of this? Nope, no way will that ever wash with me.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Rampart" <Xabriol@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144348106.750109.146880@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Wait, are you saying God was Born on Earth? LOL
But you are getting close to my point. Anyone ever considered that what
is written in Genesis describe a teraforming event?
No magic.. advance technology.
Starlord wrote:
Oh! Now we have ET's visting Earth, and I'd bet they never saw the
super
land mass that was to become all the land mass's that we see today.
186,000 MPS, not just a good Idea, it's the LAW.
--
The Lone Sidewalk Astronomer of Rosamond
Telescope Buyers FAQ
http://home.inreach.com/starlord
Sidewalk Astronomy
www.sidewalkastronomy.info
Astronomy Net Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/astronomy_net
In Garden Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/ingarden
Blast Off Online Gift Shop
http://www.cafepress.com/starlords
Astro Blog
http://starlord.bloggerteam.com/
"Libertarius" <Libertarius@Nothing_But_The.Truth> wrote in message
news:4435413A.B77770B4@Nothing_But_The.Truth...
SlammerPendragon wrote:
Libertarius wrote:
Rampart wrote:
When examining the Genesis account, it is helpful to keep in
mind
that it approaches matters from the standpoint of people on earth.
===>Of course it does.
It was written by a HUMAN author who knew absolutely NOTHING
about the universe, his universe was what he was able to see.
So
it describes events as they would have been seen by human observers
had
they been present. This can be noted from its treatment of events
on
the fourth Genesis "day." There the sun and moon are described as
great luminaries in comparison to the stars. Yet many stars are far
greater than our sun, and the moon is insignificant in comparison
to
them. But not to an earthly observer. So, as seen from the earth,
the
sun appears to be a 'greater light that rules the day' and the moon
a 'lesser light that dominates the night.'-Genesis 1:14-18.
===>Exactly.
But some believers think it is a description given by "God"! ;-) --
L.
Let look deeper into this, the first part of Genesis indicates that
the
earth could have existed for billions of years before the first
Genesis
"day," though it does not say for how long.
===>If you mean the formless watery mass (ERETZ) from which the entire
"universe" was formed, yes indeed, it does not say when or if it was
created
by anyone.
However, it does
describe what earth's condition was just before that first "day"
began: "Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was
darkness upon the surface of the watery deep; and God's active force
was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters."-Genesis 1:2.
===>A better translation is by the Hebrew scholars of the JPS TANAKH.
It says a "wind from God" was over the waters.
Would this comform to the theory that the planet was submerged into
water from the very start?
===>As I pointed out, the whole thing was a watery mass,
according to the story.
No dry land was visible to the extraterrestrials
(ELOHIM, translated as "God"). -- L.
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. |
07 Apr 2006 11:23:00 AM |
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"Phil Cav" <phil-cfm@charter.net> wrote in message
news:7AuZf.6$YO4.1@fe04.lga...
I'm a top poster and LOVIN IT! THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!
Moron.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F4ze_N._Kr=E2nz?=" |
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07 Apr 2006 11:28:09 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:49nhqpFp50elU1@individual.net...
"Phil Cav" <phil-cfm@charter.net> wrote in message
news:7AuZf.6$YO4.1@fe04.lga...
I'm a top poster and LOVIN IT! THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!
Hey Witchy, please check your newsgroup line. Do you keep fish and a ponds?
If so, we would love to hear about them. If not, then please remove the
"rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this troll's off-topic cross-posted
thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Meanwhile here are the FAQ's for your perusal.
rec.pond's FAQ are at:
http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. |
07 Apr 2006 01:40:57 PM |
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Did I just see a real atheist slap hard another Atheist?
Hey witchypoop, you aint got the guts,
Take your argument to her:
Carolyn Adamo Gulley
Maiden name Witkowski born 1944
Current "husband":
Randy R. born 1946
3245 North Lamar Road Mount Juliet TN 37122-7806
Phone 615-459-9345
and stop polluting out fish groups!!
Robibnikoff wrote:
"R=F4ze N. Kr=E2nz" <invlid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:e163u5$7rn$1@emma.aioe.org...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:49nhqpFp50elU1@individual.net...
"Phil Cav" <phil-cfm@charter.net> wrote in message
news:7AuZf.6$YO4.1@fe04.lga...
I'm a top poster and LOVIN IT! THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER!
Hey Witchy, please check your newsgroup line. Do you keep fish and a
ponds? If so, we would love to hear about them. If not, then please
remove the "rec.ponds" NG from your replies to this troll's off-topic
cross-posted thread. Our fish are nonsectarian. :-)
Learn how to use a killfile, idiot.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "" |
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07 Apr 2006 06:34:28 PM |
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Hey Carol, It seem Jabriol is really getting under your skin. Has
anybody told you, that nobody pay attention to usenet posting that are
annoynymous?
To the rest, the person is posting this garbage is Carolyn Adamo Gulley
Maiden name Witkowski born 1944
Current "husband":
Randy R. born 1946
3245 North Lamar Road Mount Juliet TN 37122-7806
Phone 615-459-9345
She has irritated so many people on the Net, now she lives in fear for
life. She has been posting this same garbage for two years. What she
wants you to do is to call the police.
Do you know why?
Because she knows that if she call the police she would be arrested on
the spot making false accusations. She also want Jehovahs witnesses on
the Net to call Jabriol congregation to report his "bad conduct" Her
intent in life is to persecute and harass all JW's on the net
everywhere. Problem is nobody pay her any mind.
Here are some real reports on Carol bizarre behaviour:
http://tinyurl.com/99azt
http://tinyurl.com/87ow4
http://tinyurl.com/d6t5m
http://tinyurl.com/aheek
http://tinyurl.com/ck97r
http://tinyurl.com/cm3dp
http://tinyurl.com/8bscg
http://tinyurl.com/7epdg
http://tinyurl.com/bya3z
She is one can short of a six-pack. she wrote this same note under one
of her traceable sock puppets in alt.atheism. Don't take my word for
it. go and see.
anonymous@remailer.hastio.org wrote:
Maybe you can hire her to do the job on your victims Antonio.
This is the person who threatened the Gully's life more than
once. The person who is trying to instigate a crime while he
keeps his own hands clean. Remember Chris DuBose's death thanks
to this known sociopath:
Antonio L. Santana 60+
Dark skinned Hispanic male
father of Revis and Antonio Jr
3072 S. Constitution Rd.
Camden NJ
Phone 856 962-9003
Attends Church of Jehovahs Witnesses
Spanish Speaking Congragation Camden NJ
(609) 859-2797 (856) 342-8743 (856) 541-8747
Sponsor results by Intelius:
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<geister@mailinator.com>ANTONIO L SANTANA aka JABRIOL wrote in
message
news:1144435257.828245.52000@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Did I just see a real atheist slap hard another Atheist?
Hey witchypoop, you aint got the guts,
Take your argument to her:
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This message was posted via one or more anonymous remailing services.
The original sender is unknown. Any address shown in the From header
is unverified.
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| User: "R. Nunnely" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. (net stalkers & abuse) |
08 Apr 2006 01:01:28 AM |
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<geister@mailinator.com> a.k.a. JABRIOL/Antonio L Sanatana-Candia wrote in
message news:1144452868.531757.311300@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Hey Carol, It seem Jabriol is really getting under your skin. Has /snip!
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When someone like you Antonio aka Jabriol, is looking for someone else on
the 'net to attack an elderly couple, people should know who to call if you
approach them. If you don't like it too damn bad. Get a lawyer.......
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Nu..........
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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| User: "SlammerPendragon" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. (net stalkers & abuse) |
08 Apr 2006 06:10:38 AM |
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R. Nunnely wrote:
<geister@mailinator.com> a.k.a. JABRIOL/Antonio L Sanatana-Candia wrote in
message news:1144452868.531757.311300@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Hey Carol, It seem Jabriol is really getting under your skin. Has /snip!
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When someone like you Antonio aka Jabriol, is looking for someone else on
the 'net to attack an elderly couple, people should know who to call if you
approach them. If you don't like it too damn bad. Get a lawyer.......
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When someone like you Carolyn Adamo Gulley, pass your life Harrassing
people and lying about them, people wonder why you are still alive.
Osama Bin Ladden is an Elderly man, and Americans still want to see him
dead. Age has nothing to do with it. You are a Old visicious women, and
one day death will knock on your door.. your obituary will go
unnotice, and the world will be a better place.
and you live with that fear 24/7
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| User: "R. Nunnely" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. (net stalkers & abuse) |
08 Apr 2006 10:24:51 AM |
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"SlammerPendragon" Antonio L Santana/JABRIOL/Spanish Speaking Congragation
of Jehovah's Witnesses/Camden NJ<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> JABRIOL wrote in
message news:1144494638.592371.265260@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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Repeated: Read it slower this time Mr. Santana.
When someone like you Antonio L Santana-Candia aka Jabriol, is looking for
someone else on
the 'net to attack an elderly couple, encouraging total net-strangers to
"visit" them unannounced and uninvited - people should know who to call if
you approach them.
If you don't like it too damn bad. Get a lawyer.......
--
Nu..........
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. (net stalkers & abuse) |
08 Apr 2006 04:55:47 PM |
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R. Nunnely wrote:
"SlammerPendragon" Antonio L Santana/JABRIOL/Spanish Speaking Congragation
of Jehovah's Witnesses/Camden NJ<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> JABRIOL wrote in
message news:1144494638.592371.265260@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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Repeated: Read it slower this time Mr. Santana.
When someone like you Antonio L Santana-Candia aka Jabriol, is looking for
someone else on
the 'net to attack an elderly couple, encouraging total net-strangers to
"visit" them unannounced and uninvited - people should know who to call if
you approach them.
If you don't like it too damn bad. Get a lawyer.......
--
When someone like you Carolyn Adamo Gulley, pass your life Harrassing
people and lying about them, people wonder why you are still alive.
Osama Bin Ladden is an Elderly man, and Americans still want to see him
dead. Age has nothing to do with it. You are a Old visicious women, and
one day death will knock on your door.. your obituary will go
unnotice, and the world will be a better place.
and you live with that fear 24/7
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| User: "R. Nunnely" |
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| Title: Re: ToBs: The Genesis Account-Ancient Astronomy. (net stalkers & abuse) |
08 Apr 2006 05:24:50 PM |
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Moments before spontaneously combusting the net-stalker known as Antonio L.
Santana aka JABRIOL at <JhemHaddar@gmail.com> (Jehovah's Witness) was heard
opining:
and you live with that fear 24/7
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Repeated because you seem to have missed it yet again: Read it slower this
time Mr. Santana.
When someone like you Antonio L Santana-Candia aka Jabriol, is looking for
someone else on the 'net to attack an elderly couple, encouraging total
net-strangers to
"visit" them unannounced and uninvited - people should know who to call if
you approach them to do your dirty work.
If you don't like it too damn bad. Get a lawyer.......
--
Nu..........
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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