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User: "=?iso-8859-1?B?WutidWxvbg==?="
Date: 15 Feb 2007 05:38:32 PM
Object: TOBS:Neanderthal not extinct?
new DNA evidence shows that Neanderthal and human genes are 99.5%
identical.
November 19, 2006
DID ANATOMICALLY modern humans interbreed with Neanderthals, the
muscle-bound, big-browed and possibly mute cave dwellers who
disappeared from Europe and the Middle East about 30,000 years ago?
The answer may be less interesting than the fact that so many Homo
sapiens are fixated on the question.
The debate about whether there's a Neanderthal skeleton in our
collective closet was revived last week when two groups of scientists
reported that they had deciphered DNA from the thigh bone of a
Neanderthal man who lived in Croatia 38,000 years ago. From their
analysis of genetic material in the bone, the scientists estimated
that Neanderthals and the modern people who supplanted them had 99.5%
of their genes in common.
This will come as an unpleasant surprise to anyone who remembers the
film "Clan of the Cave Bear," in which a comely Cro-Magnon played by
Daryl Hannah was adopted into a clan of brutish Neanderthals. But it
will cheer anthropologists who argue that if you gave a Neanderthal a
bath, a haircut and an iPod, he would blend in with any contemporary
crowd.
Since the discovery in the 19th century of Neanderthal remains in
Germany's Neander Valley, scientific opinion has seesawed between the
idea that Neanderthals were an evolutionary dead end only distantly
related to modern humans and the view that at least some Neanderthals
felt the urge to merge with smarter, nimbler modern humans who left
Africa about 100,000 years ago. Unfortunately, the new revelations
about Neanderthal DNA don't settle the question.
A 99.5% genetic overlap between modern humans and Neanderthals might
seem to suggest recent, um, intimacy. Yet humans and chimpanzees are
almost as closely related, sharing an estimated 96% of their genomes
despite the fact that their last shared ancestor is thought to have
lived millions of years ago. Scientists said last week that human and
Neanderthal ancestors also began to diverge about 500,000 years ago.
Yet at least one leading advocate of the possibility of human-
Neanderthal hybrids said the new information was "unequivocal
evidence" of "interbreeding."
Did they or didn't they? It will take more than a few DNA printouts to
dispel the hope (or is it the fear?) that survivors of the "Clan of
the Cave Bear" walk among us.
.

User: "the_Host"

Title: Re: TOBS:Neanderthal not extinct? 15 Feb 2007 05:41:16 PM
"Zëbulon" <JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171582712.238230.72220@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

new DNA evidence shows that Neanderthal and human genes are 99.5%
identical.
November 19, 2006

DID ANATOMICALLY modern humans interbreed with Neanderthals, the
muscle-bound, big-browed and possibly mute cave dwellers who
disappeared from Europe and the Middle East about 30,000 years ago?
The answer may be less interesting than the fact that so many Homo
sapiens are fixated on the question.

The debate about whether there's a Neanderthal skeleton in our
collective closet was revived last week when two groups of scientists
reported that they had deciphered DNA from the thigh bone of a
Neanderthal man who lived in Croatia 38,000 years ago. From their
analysis of genetic material in the bone, the scientists estimated
that Neanderthals and the modern people who supplanted them had 99.5%
of their genes in common.

This will come as an unpleasant surprise to anyone who remembers the
film "Clan of the Cave Bear," in which a comely Cro-Magnon played by
Daryl Hannah was adopted into a clan of brutish Neanderthals. But it
will cheer anthropologists who argue that if you gave a Neanderthal a
bath, a haircut and an iPod, he would blend in with any contemporary
crowd.

Since the discovery in the 19th century of Neanderthal remains in
Germany's Neander Valley, scientific opinion has seesawed between the
idea that Neanderthals were an evolutionary dead end only distantly
related to modern humans and the view that at least some Neanderthals
felt the urge to merge with smarter, nimbler modern humans who left
Africa about 100,000 years ago. Unfortunately, the new revelations
about Neanderthal DNA don't settle the question.

A 99.5% genetic overlap between modern humans and Neanderthals might
seem to suggest recent, um, intimacy. Yet humans and chimpanzees are
almost as closely related, sharing an estimated 96% of their genomes
despite the fact that their last shared ancestor is thought to have
lived millions of years ago. Scientists said last week that human and
Neanderthal ancestors also began to diverge about 500,000 years ago.
Yet at least one leading advocate of the possibility of human-
Neanderthal hybrids said the new information was "unequivocal
evidence" of "interbreeding."

Did they or didn't they? It will take more than a few DNA printouts to
dispel the hope (or is it the fear?) that survivors of the "Clan of
the Cave Bear" walk among us.

Atheism explained!!!
H
.
User: "Ponderkoi"

Title: Re: TOBS:Neanderthal not extinct? 15 Feb 2007 06:13:49 PM
If you're going to reply to Jabriol please remove all irrelevant groups like
the pond group the scumbag adds.
Thanks.......
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"Zëbulon" JABRIOL<JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171582712.238230.72220@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

new DNA evidence shows that Neanderthal and human genes are 99.5%
identical.
November 19, 2006

DID ANATOMICALLY modern humans interbreed with Neanderthals, the
muscle-bound, big-browed and possibly mute cave dwellers who
disappeared from Europe and the Middle East about 30,000 years ago?
The answer may be less interesting than the fact that so many Homo
sapiens are fixated on the question.

The debate about whether there's a Neanderthal skeleton in our
collective closet was revived last week when two groups of scientists
reported that they had deciphered DNA from the thigh bone of a
Neanderthal man who lived in Croatia 38,000 years ago. From their
analysis of genetic material in the bone, the scientists estimated
that Neanderthals and the modern people who supplanted them had 99.5%
of their genes in common.

This will come as an unpleasant surprise to anyone who remembers the
film "Clan of the Cave Bear," in which a comely Cro-Magnon played by
Daryl Hannah was adopted into a clan of brutish Neanderthals. But it
will cheer anthropologists who argue that if you gave a Neanderthal a
bath, a haircut and an iPod, he would blend in with any contemporary
crowd.

Since the discovery in the 19th century of Neanderthal remains in
Germany's Neander Valley, scientific opinion has seesawed between the
idea that Neanderthals were an evolutionary dead end only distantly
related to modern humans and the view that at least some Neanderthals
felt the urge to merge with smarter, nimbler modern humans who left
Africa about 100,000 years ago. Unfortunately, the new revelations
about Neanderthal DNA don't settle the question.

A 99.5% genetic overlap between modern humans and Neanderthals might
seem to suggest recent, um, intimacy. Yet humans and chimpanzees are
almost as closely related, sharing an estimated 96% of their genomes
despite the fact that their last shared ancestor is thought to have
lived millions of years ago. Scientists said last week that human and
Neanderthal ancestors also began to diverge about 500,000 years ago.
Yet at least one leading advocate of the possibility of human-
Neanderthal hybrids said the new information was "unequivocal
evidence" of "interbreeding."

Did they or didn't they? It will take more than a few DNA printouts to
dispel the hope (or is it the fear?) that survivors of the "Clan of
the Cave Bear" walk among us.


Atheism explained!!!

H


.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: TOBS:Neanderthal not extinct? 15 Feb 2007 06:53:18 PM
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:13:49 -0600, "Ponderkoi"
<durondae_@_hotpop.com> wrote:

If you're going to reply to Jabriol please remove all irrelevant groups

That would be any group on Usenet.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: TOBS:Neanderthal not extinct? 16 Feb 2007 11:59:55 AM
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:53:18 -0500, Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:13:49 -0600, "Ponderkoi"
<durondae_@_hotpop.com> wrote:

If you're going to reply to Jabriol please remove all irrelevant groups


That would be any group on Usenet.

For that matter, the entire Internet...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each
other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest
forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement
in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
.




User: "Smiler"

Title: Re: TOBS:Neanderthal not extinct? 15 Feb 2007 08:21:20 PM
"Zëbulon" <JhemHaddar@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1171582712.238230.72220@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...

new DNA evidence shows that Neanderthal and human genes are 99.5%
identical.
November 19, 2006

DID ANATOMICALLY modern humans interbreed with Neanderthals, the
muscle-bound, big-browed and possibly mute cave dwellers who
disappeared from Europe and the Middle East about 30,000 years ago?
The answer may be less interesting than the fact that so many Homo
sapiens are fixated on the question.

The debate about whether there's a Neanderthal skeleton in our
collective closet was revived last week when two groups of scientists
reported that they had deciphered DNA from the thigh bone of a
Neanderthal man who lived in Croatia 38,000 years ago. From their
analysis of genetic material in the bone, the scientists estimated
that Neanderthals and the modern people who supplanted them had 99.5%
of their genes in common.

This will come as an unpleasant surprise to anyone who remembers the
film "Clan of the Cave Bear," in which a comely Cro-Magnon played by
Daryl Hannah was adopted into a clan of brutish Neanderthals. But it
will cheer anthropologists who argue that if you gave a Neanderthal a
bath, a haircut and an iPod, he would blend in with any contemporary
crowd.

The word you are looking for is not crowd, but congregation.
Smiler,
The godless one
.


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