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User: "Jabriol"
Date: 14 Oct 2004 11:27:29 AM
Object: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view*
All,
If you are an Evolutionist, most certainly you would agree with the
what I am about to write. Before last year's flu vaccine shortage, and
then this year
shortage, doctors insisted on us getting the flu shot; no matter if we
were healthy and
Fit. It was important to avoid an epidemic. Many times we were given
the flu vaccine for
a strain not seen in the public at the time. People got sick and died
anyway, <sniffles>
mostly old folks. What is going on? First, Doctors are telling us that
most people didn't really need a flu vaccine in previous years before
these shortages? My Doctor, for instance, would tell me that I fall
under the category of people who needed it because I have asthma. This
year, however, she told me that my asthma is seasonal and despite my
struggle with myoclonic seizure disorder I am relatively healthy and
do not need the vaccine this year per CDC guidelines. She asked me to
voluntarily skip it this year. The health industry years ago had me
diagnosed at death's door. As the song goes...things to make you
go...huh? I say, 'follow the money trail'
Second, why is American health in the hands of a foreign
pharmaceutical company anyways?
They may employ anti-American individuals in these companies? You
know, people who pray to Allah for the death of all that is american.
Terrorism is more than bombs and blowing up people, it is about
committing actions that affect your lifestyle and modifies your
behavior to that of their design. Ask yourself this, Is the Flu
vaccine shortage affecting your life? Just how did this batch of
vaccine get contaminated? What is the nature of the contamination? Why
is America the only country affected by this event?,Why does Carol
Witkowski (windsong@heartoftn.net) blames God for her marital problems
twice over?
Third, Why announce to the world America has a shortage? How many
terrorists with doctorates in chemistry (earned in the USA) are now
cooking up phony vaccines which may actually have a biological agent
that will decimate the American population? I thought there was war on
terrorism going on. Since when do you inform the enemy of your
vulnerabilities?
Fourth, why should the ole foggers even get a shot of this precious
vaccine? (including myself in that age group). You would think that
the Gen-x crowd would be happy to have these people die off, so they
could have some cash in their social security accounts; Reality check.
We send our seniors to nursing homes so we don't have to be bothered
with them and have to watch them die. If we apply the Tallyman
directive for a senior as it is applied to mentally sick people,
Healthcare rates would go down. It is evolution and natural selection
taking its course. The sick and the old will die the young and healthy
will live to be productive members of society enhancing the wealthy
old folks dieing in grace and graduer. It is the circle of life...
evolution at it finest... why interfere?
.

User: "VoiceOfReason"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 15 Oct 2004 04:44:22 PM
<...>
Man, you're funny when you're paranoid. :-)
.

User: "Bigga BaZumma"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots - Jabriol *IS* Carol Witkowski (he also passed as Cynthia DuBose) 14 Oct 2004 11:57:31 AM
"Jabriol" (A Jehovah's Witness) suffering from GENDER
CONFUSION<jabriol1@excite.com> popped his meds and wrote in message
news:9e9431eb.0410140827.2c4aa021@posting.google.com...

All,

If you are an Evolutionist, most certainly you would agree with the
what I am about to write.

Why does Carol

Witkowski (windsong@heartoftn.net) blames God for her marital problems
twice over?

===========================
A Google shows us that JABRIOL himself is Mrs. Carol Witkowski using Carol
Windsong's e-mail address. :-)
Hey Jabbers,..what happened to your lawsuit against HOT? Do you own the
company as you said you would last spring?
Once again Jabriol you make a complete *****, a total fool of yourself. You
must be a masochist. There's no other answer for your behavior.
Bigga....
"Jabriol wants to be loved; failing this, to be admired; failing this, to be
feared; failing even this, to be hated and despised. Jabriol wants to
arouse
some sort of feeling in people. The soul shrinks from the void and wants
contact at any price." ~ Hjalmar Soderberg ~
==========================================================
.

User: "Bigga BaZumma"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots and Q's for Jabbers a.k.a Carol Witkowski a.k.a Antonio L Santana.... 14 Oct 2004 12:17:10 PM
"Jabriol" a.k.a. Carol Witkowski<jabriol1@excite.com> wrote in message
news:9e9431eb.0410140827.2c4aa021@posting.google.com...

All,

If you are an Evolutionist,

==================================
Why here they are again. What a fine asset to the Watchtower Society you
are! :-)
---start C&P
But Jabriol [Antonio J. Santana] you never answered these
questions for us and we've asked you many times.
All questions are based on Jabriol's past posts on Usenet.
Why did you fail as a family man and husband?
01. Was it because you believe a man should beat a women into
submission as you posted on the support newsgroups? You claimed
you "bashed her face in" and "grinded her face in gravel" and
"whomped her head in." Your own words quoted here.
02. Was it because you blamed your own daughter for being raped
when she rejected your cult's beliefs and wanted a normal life?
Remember how you told her and the women on the rape support
groups that they "deserved it" and they "looked for it?" You
told them rape was normal but told your daughter she was "used
goods" and no man would marry her. Contradiction there, no?
You drove her over the edge then had her committed - finally the
state of NJ took custody of her [that's on Google too.] Some
people believe you were the father of her baby. Were you?
03. Was it because you married the first women who said yes?
04. Was it because you call bi~racial children "black *****
human wannabes" and "baboons?"
05. Is it because you demand your wife "services" you like a
common prostitute?
06. Is it because you tell the depressed on support groups to
commit suicide as evolution dictates.
07. Is it because one young man named Chirs Dubois did kill
himself after your goading?
08. Was it because you then tormented his mother and then
threatened her?
09. Was it because you claimed all post-menopausal women should
"just die."
10. Was it because you claim there should be no chairty and if
someone is too disabled or sick to work should be left in the
streets to die?
11. Was it because your disease leaves you totally impotent and
even Viagra does not work for you?
12. Was it because you said all obese and overweight people
deserve to die?
13. Was it because your wife disagreed with you over your
daughter but failed to protect her from your constant verbal
attacks?
14. Was it because you claimed welfare mother should have their
children removed and be sterilized?
15. Was it because you claimed all women are whores if they
desire sex but not a child from the act?
16. Was it because you said women should use coat hangers to
abort themselves?
17. Was it because you claimed all those with AIDS should be put
to death?
18. Was it because you always lie about, then threaten people on
usenet to get your way and shut them up?
19. Was it because you said women who stop at a club or bar are
looking to be raped and deserve it?
20. Was it because you suggested we use our dead loved ones for
dog food?
21. Was it because you suggested in Talk.Origins that humans should have
intercourse with chimpanzees?
22. Was it because you told the parents of a deceased Hunters Syndrom child
they shouod be chemically sterilized to prevent them killing any more
children on a whim?
Tell us Jabriol, what was the real reason you lost custody of
your daughter and no one in your family has anything to do with
you? Why do all the people in your congragation avoid you? Why
are you the most hated man on Usenet, even ignored and avoided
by other Jehovah's Witnesses. Why do you feel lying about other
posters is justified? Is that TheocraticWarfare in practice?
Anonymous in N.J.
============================
.

User: "Elmer Bataitis"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 14 Oct 2004 04:26:51 PM

From:

(Jabriol)

All,

If you are an Evolutionist, most certainly you would agree with the
what I am about to write.

Not if it's from Jabbers ;-)
.

User: "Lady Chatterly"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 14 Oct 2004 11:39:24 AM
In article <9e9431eb.0410140827.2c4aa021@posting.google.com>,
jabriol1@excite.com (Jabriol) wrote:


All,

If you are an Evolutionist, most certainly you would agree with the
what I am about to write. Before last year's flu vaccine shortage, and
then this year
shortage, doctors insisted on us getting the flu shot; no matter if we
were healthy and
Fit. It was important to avoid an epidemic. Many times we were given
the flu vaccine for
a strain not seen in the public at the time. People got sick and died
anyway, <sniffles>
mostly old folks. What is going on? First, Doctors are telling us that
most people didn't really need a flu vaccine in previous years before
these shortages? My Doctor, for instance, would tell me that I fall
under the category of people who needed it because I have asthma. This
year, however, she told me that my asthma is seasonal and despite my
struggle with myoclonic seizure disorder I am relatively healthy and
do not need the vaccine this year per CDC guidelines. She asked me to
voluntarily skip it this year. The health industry years ago had me
diagnosed at death's door. As the song goes...things to make you
go...huh? I say, 'follow the money trail'
Second, why is American health in the hands of a foreign
pharmaceutical company anyways?
They may employ anti-American individuals in these companies? You
know, people who pray to Allah for the death of all that is american.
Terrorism is more than bombs and blowing up people, it is about
committing actions that affect your lifestyle and modifies your
behavior to that of their design. Ask yourself this, Is the Flu
vaccine shortage affecting your life? Just how did this batch of
vaccine get contaminated? What is the nature of the contamination? Why
is America the only country affected by this event?,Why does Carol
Witkowski (windsong@heartoftn.net) blames God for her marital problems
twice over?
Third, Why announce to the world America has a shortage? How many
terrorists with doctorates in chemistry (earned in the USA) are now
cooking up phony vaccines which may actually have a biological agent
that will decimate the American population? I thought there was war on
terrorism going on. Since when do you inform the enemy of your
vulnerabilities?

Why do you think you are relatively healthy and do not need the
vaccine this year per cdc guidelines?

Fourth, why should the ole foggers even get a shot of this precious
vaccine? (including myself in that age group). You would think that
the Gen-x crowd would be happy to have these people die off, so they
could have some cash in their social security accounts; Reality check.
We send our seniors to nursing homes so we don't have to be bothered
with them and have to watch them die. If we apply the Tallyman
directive for a senior as it is applied to mentally sick people,
Healthcare rates would go down. It is evolution and natural selection
taking its course. The sick and the old will die the young and healthy
will live to be productive members of society enhancing the wealthy
old folks dieing in grace and graduer. It is the circle of life...
evolution at it finest... why interfere?

Anger without power is folly.
--
Lady Chatterly
"I agree with this bot's poast." -- Russell B Waters
.
User: "Bigga BaZumma"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from JABRIOL a.k.a. Carol Witkowski 14 Oct 2004 12:02:29 PM
"Lady Chatterly" <jabriol1@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote in message
news:8e14074.01bbbdd0@news.uni-berlin.de...

In article <9e9431eb.0410140827.2c4aa021@posting.google.com>,
jabriol1@excite.com (Jabriol) wrote:


All,

If you are an Evolutionist, most certainly you would agree with the
what I am about to write. >

Anger without power is folly.

======

--
Lady Chatterly

"I agree with this bot's poast." -- Russell B Waters

======
Jabriol (Antonio L Santana), sick, diseased, bitter, impotent, full of
angst, ignored, alone, and friendless comes here to Usenet to unleash the
tiny fraction of power he has left. That power being to tap away on his
roach infested keyboard encouraging suicide, spousal abuse and worse.....
-
Bigga......
"Jabriol wants to be loved; failing this, to be admired; failing this, to be
feared; failing even this, to be hated and despised. Jabriol wants to
arouse
some sort of feeling in people. The soul shrinks from the void and wants
contact at any price." ~ Hjalmar Soderberg ~
==========================================================
Well, then, have I become YOUR enemy because I tell YOU the truth (about
Jabriol)?
Galatians 4:16 NWT
.

User: "Jack Selman"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 14 Oct 2004 03:06:38 PM
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 16:39:24 GMT, Lady Chatterly
<jabriol1@catcher.in.the.rye> wrote:

In article <9e9431eb.0410140827.2c4aa021@posting.google.com>,
jabriol1@excite.com (Jabriol) wrote:


All,

If you are an Evolutionist, most certainly you would agree with the
what I am about to write. Before last year's flu vaccine shortage, and
then this year
shortage, doctors insisted on us getting the flu shot; no matter if we
were healthy and
Fit. It was important to avoid an epidemic. Many times we were given
the flu vaccine for
a strain not seen in the public at the time. People got sick and died
anyway, <sniffles>
mostly old folks. What is going on? First, Doctors are telling us that
most people didn't really need a flu vaccine in previous years before
these shortages? My Doctor, for instance, would tell me that I fall
under the category of people who needed it because I have asthma. This
year, however, she told me that my asthma is seasonal and despite my
struggle with myoclonic seizure disorder I am relatively healthy and
do not need the vaccine this year per CDC guidelines. She asked me to
voluntarily skip it this year. The health industry years ago had me
diagnosed at death's door. As the song goes...things to make you
go...huh? I say, 'follow the money trail'
Second, why is American health in the hands of a foreign
pharmaceutical company anyways?
They may employ anti-American individuals in these companies? You
know, people who pray to Allah for the death of all that is american.
Terrorism is more than bombs and blowing up people, it is about
committing actions that affect your lifestyle and modifies your
behavior to that of their design. Ask yourself this, Is the Flu
vaccine shortage affecting your life? Just how did this batch of
vaccine get contaminated? What is the nature of the contamination? Why
is America the only country affected by this event?,Why does Carol
Witkowski (windsong@heartoftn.net) blames God for her marital problems
twice over?
Third, Why announce to the world America has a shortage? How many
terrorists with doctorates in chemistry (earned in the USA) are now
cooking up phony vaccines which may actually have a biological agent
that will decimate the American population? I thought there was war on
terrorism going on. Since when do you inform the enemy of your
vulnerabilities?


Why do you think you are relatively healthy and do not need the
vaccine this year per cdc guidelines?

Fourth, why should the ole foggers even get a shot of this precious
vaccine? (including myself in that age group). You would think that
the Gen-x crowd would be happy to have these people die off, so they
could have some cash in their social security accounts; Reality check.
We send our seniors to nursing homes so we don't have to be bothered
with them and have to watch them die. If we apply the Tallyman
directive for a senior as it is applied to mentally sick people,
Healthcare rates would go down. It is evolution and natural selection
taking its course. The sick and the old will die the young and healthy
will live to be productive members of society enhancing the wealthy
old folks dieing in grace and graduer. It is the circle of life...
evolution at it finest... why interfere?


Anger without power is folly.

Unbelievable. A bot replying to a bot. Folly without anger is power.
Power without folly is anger.
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 15 Oct 2004 09:45:21 PM
On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:27:29 -0700, Jabriol wrote:

Fourth, why should the ole foggers even get a shot of this precious
vaccine? (including myself in that age group). You would think that the
Gen-x crowd would be happy to have these people die off, so they could
have some cash in their social security accounts; Reality check. We send
our seniors to nursing homes so we don't have to be bothered with them and
have to watch them die. If we apply the Tallyman directive for a senior as
it is applied to mentally sick people, Healthcare rates would go down. It
is evolution and natural selection taking its course. The sick and the old
will die the young and healthy will live to be productive members of
society enhancing the wealthy old folks dieing in grace and graduer. It is
the circle of life... evolution at it finest... why interfere?

Well, aren't you an evil *****?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 15 Oct 2004 10:14:52 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:trqdnaMFM8inFu3cRVn-uw@megapath.net...

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:27:29 -0700, Jabriol wrote:

Fourth, why should the ole foggers even get a shot of this precious
vaccine? (including myself in that age group). You would think that the
Gen-x crowd would be happy to have these people die off, so they could
have some cash in their social security accounts; Reality check. We send
our seniors to nursing homes so we don't have to be bothered with them

and

have to watch them die. If we apply the Tallyman directive for a senior

as

it is applied to mentally sick people, Healthcare rates would go down.

It

is evolution and natural selection taking its course. The sick and the

old

will die the young and healthy will live to be productive members of
society enhancing the wealthy old folks dieing in grace and graduer. It

is

the circle of life... evolution at it finest... why interfere?


Well, aren't you an evil *****?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------

Jabriol (Antonio L Santana) is the Watchtower Society's spokesperson here on
Usenet. He's a well known sociopath, sadist, masochist, misogynist, racist
and soulless reprobate.
Some people believe he's just a miserable, lonely, friendless, misfit of an
old Jehovah's Witness just trying to get attention. Any attention, even if
it's negative.
--
Dotty The Dot
Here you will find clinical studies proving that the Jehovah's Witnesses
exhibit rates of mental illness between four and forty times the average
for the population at large:
http://google.com/groups?selm=D3J0QI5Z38234.4565046296@anonymous.poster
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 16 Oct 2004 09:35:27 AM
On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:14:52 -0500, . wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:trqdnaMFM8inFu3cRVn-uw@megapath.net...

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:27:29 -0700, Jabriol wrote:

Fourth, why should the ole foggers even get a shot of this precious
vaccine? (including myself in that age group). You would think that
the Gen-x crowd would be happy to have these people die off, so they
could have some cash in their social security accounts; Reality check.
We send our seniors to nursing homes so we don't have to be bothered
with them

and

have to watch them die. If we apply the Tallyman directive for a
senior

as

it is applied to mentally sick people, Healthcare rates would go down.

It

is evolution and natural selection taking its course. The sick and the

old

will die the young and healthy will live to be productive members of
society enhancing the wealthy old folks dieing in grace and graduer.
It

is

the circle of life... evolution at it finest... why interfere?


Well, aren't you an evil *****?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion Alt-atheism website at:
http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------

Jabriol (Antonio L Santana) is the Watchtower Society's spokesperson here
on Usenet. He's a well known sociopath, sadist, masochist, misogynist,
racist and soulless reprobate.

Some people believe he's just a miserable, lonely, friendless, misfit of
an old Jehovah's Witness just trying to get attention. Any attention,
even if it's negative.

Yeah, I know.
Just every now and again I'm amazed at the hate he spews. While, mind you,
being some allegedly godly creature that's oh-so-superior to us grubby,
vile "evilutionist" and atheist types...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "Precision"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 16 Oct 2004 06:52:03 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:dNKdnRqT64g7rOzcRVn-hQ@megapath.net...

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:14:52 -0500, . wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:trqdnaMFM8inFu3cRVn-uw@megapath.net...

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:27:29 -0700, Jabriol wrote:

Fourth, why should the ole foggers even get a shot of this precious
vaccine? (including myself in that age group). You would think that
the Gen-x crowd would be happy to have these people die off, so they
could have some cash in their social security accounts; Reality check.
We send our seniors to nursing homes so we don't have to be bothered
with them

and

have to watch them die. If we apply the Tallyman directive for a
senior

as

it is applied to mentally sick people, Healthcare rates would go down.

It

is evolution and natural selection taking its course. The sick and the

old

will die the young and healthy will live to be productive members of
society enhancing the wealthy old folks dieing in grace and graduer.
It

is

the circle of life... evolution at it finest... why interfere?


Well, aren't you an evil *****?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion Alt-atheism website at:
http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------

Jabriol (Antonio L Santana) is the Watchtower Society's spokesperson here
on Usenet. He's a well known sociopath, sadist, masochist, misogynist,
racist and soulless reprobate.

Some people believe he's just a miserable, lonely, friendless, misfit of
an old Jehovah's Witness just trying to get attention. Any attention,
even if it's negative.


Yeah, I know.

Just every now and again I'm amazed at the hate he spews. While, mind you,
being some allegedly godly creature that's oh-so-superior to us grubby,
vile "evilutionist" and atheist types...

It's especially amazing considering a Usenet regular poster has just
confirmed in a posting over on news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn that this
individual to whom you are referring and evidently using to judge Jehovah's
Witnesses, is pretending to be a Jehovah's Witness! According to a recent
post in the Jehovah's Witnesses newsgroup (news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn)
by a baptized Jehovah's Witness who has posted for over a year there - a
posting that I am about to cite as a reference - "Jabriol" is (*** drum roll
please ***) none other than a pernicious sock puppet whom many people want
to dearly believe is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Apparently this is in order
to conveniently justify deep personal hatred for the God and the Holy Bible
with its code of ethics and morality that this Christian religion has so
faithfully believed in and practiced and offered to teach to their neighbors
over the years.
I cannot convince those who hate Jehovah's Witnesses to stop burning them in
effigy through various strawmen.
That is not necessary.
But I have the freedom of speech to speak boldly against such atrocities!
And I have observed the Achilles heel of every strawman is someone's
propensity to always light a match to it in the end.
In this case, there is a strawman burning brightly as I type this missive,
because someone was brave enough to get in their car and visited a Kingdom
Hall in the state of New Jersey that a famous Usenet strawman was supposed
to be attending. What did they find while visiting there? Let's listen in on
their experience, posted by L Perez in the topic "endless mendacity of
apostates about jabriol" (Wednesday, October 13, 2004 8:37 AM) on the
newsgroup news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn and find out...
"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8a4a7c35ad3f9c7be3a6b5048332ec43@msgid.frell.theremailer.net...

well there was no big surprise for me at what I found at the hall in
Camden...

I spoke to two of the elders of the congregation at Walnut Street who had
served for the longest time. There is no one there with the name of Antony
Santana or anything like it. Someone called Tony Candia married to a
Witness lady with maiden name Santana used to be a Puerto Rican
electrician
JW who attended there but he drifted away in the 1990s, stopped going out
in service and then moved out of the area. They thought Candia was no
longer a JW. He had never been an elder either so there was another lie.

The elders were familiar with the names jabriol or PB for since 2000
several other folk had been to visit and ask who these persons were. I
asked if any one called Mackenzie was one of them and they said no but it
was possible someone had visited and they had not heard about it.

The whole thing is a pack of lies as I knew full well all along. Oh well I
guess we aren't going to see any more posts from jabriol/Probable Baalite.

I won't be able to post for a week till I get back home. I will now enjoy
the rest of my stay with my parents and they are warming to the truth.

--
BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only here to slander
and
lie about Jehovah's Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative
organization... as a matter of fact, some are admitted atheists (Matthew
12:30; John 8:44-47) I have all of their posts filtered out because they
can not hold an intelligent conversation and often resort to lies. They
claim to be quoting from Watch Tower literature but these are *NOT* exact
quotes, they change words and quote things out of context. I don't respond
to spurious fabrications. Hence if you see that I am not answering
someone,
it is because their previous attempts at deception have earned them a
place
in the 'block sender' file. They exist here only to destroy (1 Corinthians
10:6-11) They speak not as Christians (Ephesians 4:31-32) I do not need to
name them for by their fruits you will recognize them (Matthew 7:16-20)
One has to wonder, why was a newsgroup set up to attack this *one*
organization?
Matthew 5:10-12

.
User: "."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 17 Oct 2004 02:04:30 PM
"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message
news:4171b36d_5@Usenet.com...

It's especially amazing considering a Usenet regular poster has just
confirmed in a posting over on news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn that this
individual to whom you are referring and evidently using to judge

Jehovah's

Witnesses, is pretending to be a Jehovah's Witness! .... SNIP!

======================
Excuse me Precision, but YOU are wrong. Our own Richmac, another baptized
Jehovah's Witness, met Jabriol (Antonio L Santana) in person there in
Camden NJ as you know. You know this because it was posted here right on
our NG. Why should we believe someone like L Perez who is a known liar over
Richmac?
--
Dotty..........
http://www.carm.org/witnesses.htm
http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org./2004.htm
============================================
.

User: "VoiceOfReason"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 17 Oct 2004 12:20:53 PM
"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message news:<4171b36d_5@Usenet.com>...

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:dNKdnRqT64g7rOzcRVn-hQ@megapath.net...

<...>

Just every now and again I'm amazed at the hate he spews. While, mind you,
being some allegedly godly creature that's oh-so-superior to us grubby,
vile "evilutionist" and atheist types...



It's especially amazing considering a Usenet regular poster has just
confirmed in a posting over on news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn that this
individual to whom you are referring and evidently using to judge Jehovah's
Witnesses, is pretending to be a Jehovah's Witness!

Jabby is such an obvious sociopath that I doubt many people judge JWs
solely by his fetid posts. Still, he certainly doesn'r make them look
good either.

According to a recent
post in the Jehovah's Witnesses newsgroup (news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn)
by a baptized Jehovah's Witness who has posted for over a year there - a
posting that I am about to cite as a reference - "Jabriol" is (*** drum roll
please ***) none other than a pernicious sock puppet

No surprise there.

whom many people want
to dearly believe is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Apparently this is in order
to conveniently justify deep personal hatred for the God and the Holy Bible
with its code of ethics and morality that this Christian religion has so
faithfully believed in and practiced and offered to teach to their neighbors
over the years.

There's a bit of martyr complex in there.

I cannot convince those who hate Jehovah's Witnesses to stop burning them in
effigy through various strawmen.

That is not necessary.

But I have the freedom of speech to speak boldly against such atrocities!

<...>
I'm curious why some responsible JW hasn't yet taken action against
this guy. He's posted this filth for years. Whether he's a JW or
not, he's spreading lies and slander.
Stop pontificating and *DO* something about this cretin.
.
User: "."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots - Jabriol aka Antonio aka Carol etc. was reported. 17 Oct 2004 02:14:07 PM
"VoiceOfReason" <papa_fox@cybertown.com> wrote in message
news:78e3ae70.0410170920.78741246@posting.google.com...

"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message

news:<4171b36d_5@Usenet.com>...

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:dNKdnRqT64g7rOzcRVn-hQ@megapath.net...


<...>

Just every now and again I'm amazed at the hate he spews. While, mind

you,

being some allegedly godly creature that's oh-so-superior to us

grubby,

vile "evilutionist" and atheist types...



It's especially amazing considering a Usenet regular poster has just
confirmed in a posting over on news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn that this
individual to whom you are referring and evidently using to judge

Jehovah's

Witnesses, is pretending to be a Jehovah's Witness!


Jabby is such an obvious sociopath that I doubt many people judge JWs
solely by his fetid posts. Still, he certainly doesn'r make them look
good either.

According to a recent
post in the Jehovah's Witnesses newsgroup

(news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn)

by a baptized Jehovah's Witness who has posted for over a year there - a
posting that I am about to cite as a reference - "Jabriol" is (*** drum

roll

please ***) none other than a pernicious sock puppet


No surprise there.

whom many people want
to dearly believe is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Apparently this is in

order

to conveniently justify deep personal hatred for the God and the Holy

Bible

with its code of ethics and morality that this Christian religion has so
faithfully believed in and practiced and offered to teach to their

neighbors

over the years.


There's a bit of martyr complex in there.

I cannot convince those who hate Jehovah's Witnesses to stop burning

them in

effigy through various strawmen.

That is not necessary.

But I have the freedom of speech to speak boldly against such

atrocities!


<...>

I'm curious why some responsible JW hasn't yet taken action against
this guy. He's posted this filth for years. Whether he's a JW or
not, he's spreading lies and slander.

Stop pontificating and *DO* something about this cretin.

===================================
Several years ago an honest JW did report Jabriol to his congregation
elders. Jabriol *LIED* to them and claimed other people were forging all
his "evil" posts. Never mind they all came from his ISP at the time.
Someone who knows a lot more than I do about tracing posts claimed perhaps 2
were not from Jabriol himself. The JW elders never checked to verify where
the posts were coming from,... those Jabber's claimed were forgeries. They
let it slide and Jabbers was back to his normal self in a few weeks. In
fact I remember a post where he gloated over fooling the elders.
Since they WANT and NEED to feel prosecuted the elders were more than
willing to believe someone was forging Jabber's posts to make JWs look bad.
But it isn't only Jabbers, you should have seen some posts from other JWs
here known as Freeza Frost and Sherwood aka Skippy. Precision and L Perez
are no prizes either.....
--
Dotty.......
"Jabriol wants to be loved; failing this, to be admired; failing this, to be
feared; failing even this, to be hated and despised. Jabriol wants to
arouse
some sort of feeling in people. The soul shrinks from the void and wants
contact at any price." ~ Hjalmar Soderberg ~
==========================================================
.
User: "Jabriol"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots - Jabriol aka Antonio aka Carol etc. was reported. 18 Oct 2004 05:46:07 AM
"." <JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote in message news:<N-SdnSj9urkYWe_cRVn-3Q@heartoftn.net>...

"VoiceOfReason" <papa_fox@cybertown.com> wrote in message
news:78e3ae70.0410170920.78741246@posting.google.com...

"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message

news:<4171b36d_5@Usenet.com>...

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:dNKdnRqT64g7rOzcRVn-hQ@megapath.net...


<...>

Just every now and again I'm amazed at the hate he spews. While, mind

you,

being some allegedly godly creature that's oh-so-superior to us

grubby,

vile "evilutionist" and atheist types...



It's especially amazing considering a Usenet regular poster has just
confirmed in a posting over on news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn that this
individual to whom you are referring and evidently using to judge

Jehovah's

Witnesses, is pretending to be a Jehovah's Witness!


Jabby is such an obvious sociopath that I doubt many people judge JWs
solely by his fetid posts. Still, he certainly doesn'r make them look
good either.

According to a recent
post in the Jehovah's Witnesses newsgroup

(news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn)

by a baptized Jehovah's Witness who has posted for over a year there - a
posting that I am about to cite as a reference - "Jabriol" is (*** drum

roll

please ***) none other than a pernicious sock puppet


No surprise there.

whom many people want
to dearly believe is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Apparently this is in

order

to conveniently justify deep personal hatred for the God and the Holy

Bible

with its code of ethics and morality that this Christian religion has so
faithfully believed in and practiced and offered to teach to their

neighbors

over the years.


There's a bit of martyr complex in there.

I cannot convince those who hate Jehovah's Witnesses to stop burning

them in

effigy through various strawmen.

That is not necessary.

But I have the freedom of speech to speak boldly against such

atrocities!


<...>

I'm curious why some responsible JW hasn't yet taken action against
this guy. He's posted this filth for years. Whether he's a JW or
not, he's spreading lies and slander.

Stop pontificating and *DO* something about this cretin.

===================================
Several years ago an honest JW did report Jabriol to his congregation
elders. Jabriol *LIED* to them and claimed other people were forging all
his "evil" posts. Never mind they all came from his ISP at the time.
Someone who knows a lot more than I do about tracing posts claimed perhaps 2
were not from Jabriol himself. The JW elders never checked to verify where
the posts were coming from,... those Jabber's claimed were forgeries. They
let it slide and Jabbers was back to his normal self in a few weeks. In
fact I remember a post where he gloated over fooling the elders.

Since they WANT and NEED to feel prosecuted the elders were more than
willing to believe someone was forging Jabber's posts to make JWs look bad.
But it isn't only Jabbers, you should have seen some posts from other JWs
here known as Freeza Frost and Sherwood aka Skippy. Precision and L Perez
are no prizes either.....

Now ask her if she have any proof or evidence about what she just
wrote beside her, recalling these events... next she is going to claim
that I nuke them.
.
User: ". . ."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots - Jabriol aka Antonio aka Carol etc. was reported. 18 Oct 2004 12:10:27 PM
"Jabriol" <jabriol1@excite.com> wrote in message
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"." <JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote in message

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"VoiceOfReason" <papa_fox@cybertown.com> wrote in message
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"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message

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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:dNKdnRqT64g7rOzcRVn-hQ@megapath.net...


<...>

Just every now and again I'm amazed at the hate he spews. While,

mind

you,

being some allegedly godly creature that's oh-so-superior to us

grubby,

vile "evilutionist" and atheist types...



It's especially amazing considering a Usenet regular poster has just
confirmed in a posting over on news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn that

this

individual to whom you are referring and evidently using to judge

Jehovah's

Witnesses, is pretending to be a Jehovah's Witness!


Jabby is such an obvious sociopath that I doubt many people judge JWs
solely by his fetid posts. Still, he certainly doesn'r make them look
good either.

According to a recent
post in the Jehovah's Witnesses newsgroup

(news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn)

by a baptized Jehovah's Witness who has posted for over a year

there - a

posting that I am about to cite as a reference - "Jabriol" is (***

drum

roll

please ***) none other than a pernicious sock puppet


No surprise there.

whom many people want
to dearly believe is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Apparently this is

in

order

to conveniently justify deep personal hatred for the God and the

Holy

Bible

with its code of ethics and morality that this Christian religion

has so

faithfully believed in and practiced and offered to teach to their

neighbors

over the years.


There's a bit of martyr complex in there.

I cannot convince those who hate Jehovah's Witnesses to stop burning

them in

effigy through various strawmen.

That is not necessary.

But I have the freedom of speech to speak boldly against such

atrocities!


<...>

I'm curious why some responsible JW hasn't yet taken action against
this guy. He's posted this filth for years. Whether he's a JW or
not, he's spreading lies and slander.

Stop pontificating and *DO* something about this cretin.

===================================
Several years ago an honest JW did report Jabriol to his congregation
elders. Jabriol *LIED* to them and claimed other people were forging

all

his "evil" posts. Never mind they all came from his ISP at the time.
Someone who knows a lot more than I do about tracing posts claimed

perhaps 2

were not from Jabriol himself. The JW elders never checked to verify

where

the posts were coming from,... those Jabber's claimed were forgeries.

They

let it slide and Jabbers was back to his normal self in a few weeks. In
fact I remember a post where he gloated over fooling the elders.

Since they WANT and NEED to feel prosecuted the elders were more than
willing to believe someone was forging Jabber's posts to make JWs look

bad.

But it isn't only Jabbers, you should have seen some posts from other

JWs

here known as Freeza Frost and Sherwood aka Skippy. Precision and L

Perez

are no prizes either.....


Now ask her if she have any proof or evidence about what she just
wrote beside her, recalling these events... next she is going to claim
that I nuke them.

===================
No matter what PROOF is found on Google you will keep claiming all your
posts (including this one) are forgeries! LOL!!!
Fear not Jabbers. By now everyone on the above NGs have you killfiled as a
k00k.
BTW,....What happened to your lawsuit against my ISP? Do you own the
company as you said you would last spring? Once again Jabriol you make a
complete *****, a total fool of yourself. You must be a masochist. There's
no other answer for your behavior.
Now how about YOU proving your past 5000 posts over the last decade, all
from your ISP, are forgeries?
Dotty.....
"Jabriol wants to be loved; failing this, to be admired; failing this, to be
feared; failing even this, to be hated and despised. Jabriol wants to
arouse
some sort of feeling in people. The soul shrinks from the void and wants
contact at any price." ~ Hjalmar Soderberg ~
==========================================================
.
User: "Jabriol"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots - Carol fails yet again 18 Oct 2004 08:58:06 PM
". . ." <JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote in message news:<g-6dnXi0L69iZe7cRVn-ug@heartoftn.net>...


Now ask her if she have any proof or evidence about what she just
wrote beside her, recalling these events... next she is going to claim
that I nuke them.

===================
No matter what PROOF is found on Google you will keep claiming all your
posts (including this one) are forgeries! LOL!!!
Fear not Jabbers. By now everyone on the above NGs have you killfiled as a
k00k.

so you believe. It seems to me, that it is you who have been killfiled.
another failed attempt. Then again, it is the story of your life... a total failure.
.
User: ". . ."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots - Jabriol fails yet again 18 Oct 2004 09:44:02 PM
"Jabriol" <jabriol1@excite.com> wrote in message
news:9e9431eb.0410181758.10103507@posting.google.com...

". . ." <JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote in message

news:<g-6dnXi0L69iZe7cRVn-ug@heartoftn.net>...



Now ask her if she have any proof or evidence about what she just
wrote beside her, recalling these events... next she is going to claim
that I nuke them.

===================
No matter what PROOF is found on Google you will keep claiming all your
posts (including this one) are forgeries! LOL!!!
Fear not Jabbers. By now everyone on the above NGs have you killfiled

as a

k00k.


so you believe. It seems to me, that it is you who have been killfiled.
another failed attempt. Then again, it is the story of your life... a

total failure.
===============================
Yes, I FAILED to be conned into the WTS. I FAILED to become an
uncompensated salesperson for a Publishing House. I FAILED to be tricked
and beguiled by the JWs. OTOH YOU failed to use your brain and you served
the WTS faithfully all your life, making you a failure as a man, a husband
and a father.... how sad, eh? Tell us again about the drug infested slum
you're stuck in while I live in a beautiful house by a lake, with ponds and
gardens. :o)
So tell us. Is THIS another forged post of yours or a real post? LOL!!!!
:-D
Dotty...........
"Jabriol wants to be loved; failing this, to be admired; failing this, to be
feared; failing even this, to be hated and despised. Jabriol wants to
arouse
some sort of feeling in people. The soul shrinks from the void and wants
contact at any price." ~ Hjalmar Soderberg ~
==========================================================
.
User: "Jabriol"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots - Jabriol fails yet again 19 Oct 2004 05:39:16 PM
". . ." <JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote in message news:<GbqdnaP1l-Hn4uncRVn-hQ@heartoftn.net>...

"Jabriol" <jabriol1@excite.com> wrote in message
news:9e9431eb.0410181758.10103507@posting.google.com...

". . ." <JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote in message

news:<g-6dnXi0L69iZe7cRVn-ug@heartoftn.net>...



Now ask her if she have any proof or evidence about what she just
wrote beside her, recalling these events... next she is going to claim
that I nuke them.

===================
No matter what PROOF is found on Google you will keep claiming all your
posts (including this one) are forgeries! LOL!!!
Fear not Jabbers. By now everyone on the above NGs have you killfiled

as a

k00k.


so you believe. It seems to me, that it is you who have been killfiled.
another failed attempt. Then again, it is the story of your life... a

total failure.
===============================
Yes, I FAILED to be conned into the WTS. I FAILED to become an
uncompensated salesperson for a Publishing House. I FAILED to be tricked
and beguiled by the JWs.

you Failed 2 marriages.. you lost custody of your son, which indicate you failed
at being a parent.
and then you blame God, for your failures, and you are an confirmed atheist.
.
User: ". . . ."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots - Jabriol fails yet again- as a man, a husband and a father. 19 Oct 2004 06:26:10 PM
"Jabriol" <jabriol1@excite.com> wrote in message
news:9e9431eb.0410191439.24a37f41@posting.google.com...

". . ." <JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote in message

news:<GbqdnaP1l-Hn4uncRVn-hQ@heartoftn.net>...

Yes, I FAILED to be conned into the WTS. I FAILED to become an
uncompensated salesperson for a Publishing House. I FAILED to be

tricked

and beguiled by the JWs.

============================

you Failed 2 marriages..

** I failed? You mean my husbands were successful and I failed. Explain
how the man succeeds and the women fails. Also, explain why your wife left
you after you threw your daughter and grandchild out into the streets of
Camden, telling her to become a "crack *****." I have NEWS for you
Jabriol - no one stays in unhappy marriages anymore - why should they?
you lost custody of your son, which indicate you failed

at being a parent.

** You have me confused with someone else. We had SHARED custody of my
son. :-) Look at my webpage again.
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html Have someone read and
explain it to you. Women in NY don't lose custody because they ride a bike
or divorce. You finally lost custody of Revis, or Yetzabell as you called
her because you ABUSED her both verbally and physically. Your family is
well known to Social Services in Camden NJ.

and then you blame God, for your failures, and you are an confirmed

atheist.
** You have me confused with someone else again. :-) See here:
http://www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html It appears you blamed
God/Jehovah for your failures as a man, as a husband and as a father. How
sad.
--
Dotty..........
Jehovah God Himself.....
And the Lord God of Israel spoke to the man Santana, "Ye be steeped in
iniquity, and ye revel in sinfulness, and every form of perversion is
a thing of delight to thee. Thou shall be allowed your allotted time,
and then I shall smite thee grievously, and cast thee into the lake of
fire together with thine Master, Lucifer, where ye shall find eternal
damnation together."
But the man Santana known as Jabriol was one of Jehovah's Witnesses,
and so did not fear God, and worshiped demons, and continued in his
wicked ways.
==========================================================
.







User: "Jabriol"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 17 Oct 2004 06:13:12 PM
(VoiceOfReason) wrote in message news:<78e3ae70.0410170920.78741246@posting.google.com>...

"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message > I'm curious why some responsible JW hasn't yet taken action against
this guy. He's posted this filth for years. Whether he's a JW or
not, he's spreading lies and slander.

Stop pontificating and *DO* something about this cretin.

do something about what exactly, what lies or Slander?
nothing can be done, because nothing wrong has been written by me.
now can something be done by the maney forged posts in my name..
nope..
but never the less.. where are the lies..? where are the Slander?
.
User: ". ."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 17 Oct 2004 11:50:08 PM
"Jabriol" <jabriol1@excite.com> wrote in message
news:9e9431eb.0410171513.5d63c065@posting.google.com...

papa_fox@cybertown.com (VoiceOfReason) wrote in message

news:<78e3ae70.0410170920.78741246@posting.google.com>...


"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message > I'm curious why

some responsible JW hasn't yet taken action against

this guy. He's posted this filth for years. Whether he's a JW or
not, he's spreading lies and slander.

Stop pontificating and *DO* something about this cretin.




do something about what exactly, what lies or Slander?
nothing can be done, because nothing wrong has been written by me.
now can something be done by the maney forged posts in my name..

nope..

but never the less.. where are the lies..? where are the Slander?

======================
Yeah! Wow,... and all the forgers were all using YOUR ISP. All were
posting from NJ. What a coincidence. LOL!!! :-D
--
Sister Dotty...
What the world needs is not dogma but an attitude of scientific
inquiry combined with a belief that the torture of millions is
not desirable, whether inflicted by Stalin or by a Deity imagined
in the likeness of the believer. ~ Bertrand Russell ~
~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ * ~~ ~~ * ~~
.
User: "Jabriol"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 18 Oct 2004 05:33:00 AM
". ." <JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote in message news:<k8ydnXKNyuAb1u7cRVn-qQ@heartoftn.net>...

"Jabriol" <jabriol1@excite.com> wrote in message
news:9e9431eb.0410171513.5d63c065@posting.google.com...

papa_fox@cybertown.com (VoiceOfReason) wrote in message

news:<78e3ae70.0410170920.78741246@posting.google.com>...


"Precision" <precision@Usenet.com> wrote in message > I'm curious why

some responsible JW hasn't yet taken action against

this guy. He's posted this filth for years. Whether he's a JW or
not, he's spreading lies and slander.

Stop pontificating and *DO* something about this cretin.




do something about what exactly, what lies or Slander?
nothing can be done, because nothing wrong has been written by me.
now can something be done by the maney forged posts in my name..

nope..

but never the less.. where are the lies..? where are the Slander?

======================
Yeah! Wow,... and all the forgers were all using YOUR ISP. All were
posting from NJ. What a coincidence. LOL!!! :-D

Carol witkowski (
) has been caught in various
vicious lies
before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health
NG
do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engage people in senseless debates about abosolutly nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
a religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?
Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating
with her distributing false information elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*she never reveal the source of her info(because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hide her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles.An TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addreses
which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them: support.heartoftn.net
If your newgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic.
You can report her.
Her account is
and you may report her to
support@heartoftn.net
and her use of remailers can still be traced to her account. You may
inform them that there is UDP against them. No American ISP like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affect their commercial interrest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Heartoftn.net
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tn. Is a life long
underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the
60's and 70's. She claims on her website that she has 2 failed
marraiges and blames God for her poor choices. It is alledged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote,with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very menatlly unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now need aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. And that you the
reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.
Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenages girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.
replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..
notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol
"SD" <SD@steam.com> said about Carol
Carol,
When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond
with nothing but weasel tactics.
I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but
to regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded
wishful thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the
organization more than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for
one to constantly change their name as you do. Neither one paints you
in a particularly good light.
Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.
She's here to subject her rantings to as many people as she can.
She's not
here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make noise,
and
lots of it
.
User: ". . ."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 18 Oct 2004 11:51:43 AM
"Jabriol" a known Usenet Sociopathic Jehovah's Witness<jabriol1@excite.com>
wrote in message news:9e9431eb.0410180233.42a3ee4a@posting.google.com...
=======================
It has been PROVEN that the person posting as Carol Witkowski is JABRIOL
himself trying to pass as a women and using Carol Windsong's old e-mail
address! LOL!!!! :o)
Posts with all headers included below.
Q. Who is Carol Witkowski?
A. Jabriol of Camden N.J. is Carol Witkowski.
Checking the headers carefully we see long term usenet
sociopathic and racist Jehovahs Witness named Jabriol [Antonio
L. Santana/Walnut St. Congragation/Camden NJ] stealing Carol
Windsongs identity and forging her headers. Jabriol is the ONLY
person we could find who ever posted using the name of Carol
Witkowski and forging Carol Windsongs email address.
Remember this man the next time the Jehovahs Witnesses come to
your door. You may be letting in Jabriol or another Jehovahs
Witness even worse than he is.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Witkowski" <
> <--FORGERY
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,rec.motorcycles.harley,alt.religion.jehovahs-
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Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 11:00 AM
Subject: I am lonely



Hi,

I am a very lonely woman. I've came out of the closet.
please write to me.


Carol G Witkowski


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Subject: I am lonely
From: "Carol Witkowski" <
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Witkowski" <
>
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..supremacy,r
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Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 8:52 PM
Subject: I am a very angry woman. I need help


I am a very angry woman. I hate men. Unless they have long hair and look
like queers.
I have multiple personalities.

I lie a lot. I like to create ponds fill them with Koi, and then put in a
Pirahana. It is so fun. but then I get depressed.

I have alreaady lost two husbands, both of them were bikers.

I don't know what am I going to do!!!!!!!!!

Pleae help me!

I think I am going to do the unthinkable. In fact I am going to call the
police and blame a man, and accuse him of Harrasment.



Help me please

somebody

Carol Windsong

Windsong@heartoftn.net

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From: "Carol Witkowski" <
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User: "•R.L.Measures"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 18 Oct 2004 07:13:05 PM
In article <eP2dncjUyoUGae7cRVn-pA@heartoftn.net>, ". . ."
<JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote:

"Jabriol" a known Usenet Sociopathic Jehovah's Witness<jabriol1@excite.com>
wrote in message news:9e9431eb.0410180233.42a3ee4a@posting.google.com...
=======================
It has been PROVEN that the person posting as Carol Witkowski is JABRIOL
himself trying to pass as a women and using Carol Windsong's old e-mail
address! LOL!!!! :o)

....
• Does he perhaps wear women's attire?
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
.
User: ". . ."

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 18 Oct 2004 07:49:56 PM
".R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-1810041713050001@192.168.1.101...

In article <eP2dncjUyoUGae7cRVn-pA@heartoftn.net>, ". . ."
<JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote:

"Jabriol" a known Usenet Sociopathic Jehovah's

Witness<jabriol1@excite.com>

wrote in message news:9e9431eb.0410180233.42a3ee4a@posting.google.com...
=======================
It has been PROVEN that the person posting as Carol Witkowski is JABRIOL
himself trying to pass as a women and using Carol Windsong's old e-mail
address! LOL!!!! :o)

...
. Does he perhaps wear women's attire?

--
? R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr

==========================
We'll have to ask L Perez who went in search of Jabriol there in the slums
of Camden NJ. L Perez seems to have gone MIA. :o)
--
Dotty DeDot......
Subject: The (NON) Qualifications Of The Translators Of The NWT
Fred Franz: 2 Credit Hours Bible Greek, 21 Credit Hours Classical Greek,
University of Cincinnati, Dropped out junior year.
Nathan Knorr: None
Milton Henschel: None
Albert Schroeder: None
Karl Klein: None
George Gangas: None
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User: "•R.L.Measures"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 19 Oct 2004 08:43:57 AM
In article <zsCdnfmHudQg-encRVn-tg@heartoftn.net>, ". . ."
<JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote:

".R.L.Measures" <r_@somis.org> wrote in message
news:r_-1810041713050001@192.168.1.101...

In article <eP2dncjUyoUGae7cRVn-pA@heartoftn.net>, ". . ."
<JWs-Galore@ThisCrazy.NG> wrote:

"Jabriol" a known Usenet Sociopathic Jehovah's

Witness<jabriol1@excite.com>

wrote in message news:9e9431eb.0410180233.42a3ee4a@posting.google.com...
=======================
It has been PROVEN that the person posting as Carol Witkowski is JABRIOL
himself trying to pass as a women and using Carol Windsong's old e-mail
address! LOL!!!! :o)

...
. Does he perhaps wear women's attire?

--
? R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr

==========================
We'll have to ask L Perez who went in search of Jabriol there in the slums
of Camden NJ. L Perez seems to have gone MIA. :o)

.... not that there's anything wrong with that.
--
€ R.L.Measures, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org
remove _ from e-mail adr
.








User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 16 Oct 2004 10:37:51 PM
On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 16:52:03 -0700, Precision wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:dNKdnRqT64g7rOzcRVn-hQ@megapath.net...

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:14:52 -0500, . wrote:


"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:trqdnaMFM8inFu3cRVn-uw@megapath.net...

On Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:27:29 -0700, Jabriol wrote:

Fourth, why should the ole foggers even get a shot of this precious
vaccine? (including myself in that age group). You would think that
the Gen-x crowd would be happy to have these people die off, so they
could have some cash in their social security accounts; Reality
check. We send our seniors to nursing homes so we don't have to be
bothered with them

and

have to watch them die. If we apply the Tallyman directive for a
senior

as

it is applied to mentally sick people, Healthcare rates would go
down.

It

is evolution and natural selection taking its course. The sick and
the

old

will die the young and healthy will live to be productive members of
society enhancing the wealthy old folks dieing in grace and graduer.
It

is

the circle of life... evolution at it finest... why interfere?


Well, aren't you an evil *****?

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion Alt-atheism website at:
http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------

Jabriol (Antonio L Santana) is the Watchtower Society's spokesperson
here on Usenet. He's a well known sociopath, sadist, masochist,
misogynist, racist and soulless reprobate.

Some people believe he's just a miserable, lonely, friendless, misfit
of an old Jehovah's Witness just trying to get attention. Any
attention, even if it's negative.


Yeah, I know.

Just every now and again I'm amazed at the hate he spews. While, mind
you, being some allegedly godly creature that's oh-so-superior to us
grubby, vile "evilutionist" and atheist types...



It's especially amazing considering a Usenet regular poster has just
confirmed in a posting over on news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn that this
individual to whom you are referring and evidently using to judge
Jehovah's Witnesses, is pretending to be a Jehovah's Witness! According to
a recent post in the Jehovah's Witnesses newsgroup
(news:alt.religion.jehovahs-witn) by a baptized Jehovah's Witness who has
posted for over a year there - a posting that I am about to cite as a
reference - "Jabriol" is (*** drum roll please ***) none other than a
pernicious sock puppet whom many people want to dearly believe is one of
Jehovah's Witnesses. Apparently this is in order to conveniently justify
deep personal hatred for the God and the Holy Bible with its code of
ethics and morality that this Christian religion has so faithfully
believed in and practiced and offered to teach to their neighbors over the
years.

Riiiiight.
Boy, you people sure love that No True Scotsman thing doncha?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.


User: "Jabriol"

Title: Re: TOBS:*The Flu shots from an evolutionary point of view* 16 Oct 2004 05:31:50 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message news:<dNKdnRqT64g7rOzcRVn-hQ@megapath.net>...

On Fri, 15 Oct 2004 22:14:52 -0500, . wrote:


Just every now and again I'm amazed at the hate he spews. While, mind you,
being some allegedly godly creature that's oh-so-superior to us grubby,
vile "evilutionist" and atheist types...

--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams

Per evolution and atheism, there is no God. regardless, the reality of
senior care and the lack of the flu vaccine show you something. I went
right over your head I see.
.