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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Barry OGrady"
Date: 08 Nov 2006 11:40:35 PM
Object: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?
Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?
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User: "Dale"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 08 Nov 2006 11:00:51 PM
"Barry OGrady" <god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?

Cheeky foreigner devils with your foreign date sequences!
(Actually, I prefer yyyy-mm-dd because it goes logically with hh:mm:ss.)
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User: "Mark D J. Mark D"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 09 Nov 2006 09:50:47 AM
"Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message
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"Barry OGrady" <god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


Cheeky foreigner devils with your foreign date sequences!

(Actually, I prefer yyyy-mm-dd because it goes logically with hh:mm:ss.)

Yes, but the problem with that is that throughout the average day 'yyyy' is
usually far less important to us than 'mm' and 'dd' -- whereas 'hh' and 'mm'
are normally far more important than 'ss', and therefore naturally go
efficiently at the 'front'.
The real problem with the US-style 'mm-dd-yyyy' arrangement is that the most
rapidly changing element is *stuck in the middle*, rather than sensibly on
the opposite end from the one that changes most slowly...
M.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 09 Nov 2006 09:52:24 AM
On Nov 9, 10:50 am, "Mark D J." <Mark D J...@hoyme.com> wrote:

"Dale" <dmgr...@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in messagenews:7Cy4h.1208$GS2.545@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...

"Barry OGrady" <god_free_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


Cheeky foreigner devils with your foreign date sequences!


(Actually, I prefer yyyy-mm-dd because it goes logically with hh:mm:ss.)Yes, but the problem with that is that throughout the average day 'yyyy' is

usually far less important to us than 'mm' and 'dd' -- whereas 'hh' and 'mm'
are normally far more important than 'ss', and therefore naturally go
efficiently at the 'front'.

The real problem with the US-style 'mm-dd-yyyy' arrangement is that the most
rapidly changing element is *stuck in the middle*, rather than sensibly on
the opposite end from the one that changes most slowly...

M.

Maybe, but it sorts properly as a character string, as does yyyy-mm-dd,
which also denotes the inverted hierarchy.
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User: "Jon Stoll"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 09 Nov 2006 10:11:55 AM
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On Nov 9, 10:50 am, "Mark D J." <Mark D J...@hoyme.com> wrote:

"Dale" <dmgr...@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in
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"Barry OGrady" <god_free_jo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4lf5l2d7mtgp2o5hcns6usdu1lph488fa1@4ax.com...

Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


Cheeky foreigner devils with your foreign date sequences!


(Actually, I prefer yyyy-mm-dd because it goes logically with
hh:mm:ss.)Yes, but the problem with that is that throughout the average
day 'yyyy' is

usually far less important to us than 'mm' and 'dd' -- whereas 'hh' and
'mm'
are normally far more important than 'ss', and therefore naturally go
efficiently at the 'front'.

The real problem with the US-style 'mm-dd-yyyy' arrangement is that the
most
rapidly changing element is *stuck in the middle*, rather than sensibly
on
the opposite end from the one that changes most slowly...

M.

Maybe, but it sorts properly as a character string, as does yyyy-mm-dd,
which also denotes the inverted hierarchy.

As a professional programmer I always use yyyymmdd because it sorts
properly. I never saw yyyy-mm-dd before, but it strikes me as a good idea
for readability, and it would also sort properly. In fact. I think that it's
a great idea.


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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 09 Nov 2006 09:35:35 PM
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:55 GMT, "Jon Stoll" <jstoll1@wi.rr.com>
wrote:

As a professional programmer I always use yyyymmdd because it sorts
properly. I never saw yyyy-mm-dd before, but it strikes me as a good idea
for readability, and it would also sort properly. In fact. I think that it's
a great idea.

Depends on the intended use. Some databases require it one way, some
another, some don't care as long as it's not dd-mm-yyyy or dd/mm/yyyy.
--
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User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 10 Nov 2006 01:03:27 AM
Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:55 GMT, "Jon Stoll" <jstoll1@wi.rr.com>
wrote:

As a professional programmer I always use yyyymmdd because it sorts
properly. I never saw yyyy-mm-dd before, but it strikes me as a good
idea for readability, and it would also sort properly. In fact. I
think that it's a great idea.


Depends on the intended use. Some databases require it one way, some
another, some don't care as long as it's not dd-mm-yyyy or dd/mm/yyyy.

I used to worry about things like that in the days of CP/M and dBase II but
most modern databases and languages store the date as a number of days from
some starting point.
As long as it's a valid date it will accept it in one format 1/1/1 and can
display it in another, January, 1st , 2001. Leave off the year and don't
force teh delimiters and 1 1 will be accepted as 01/01/2006 etc.
But then I used Pick and Pick clones from 1984 until the early 90's.
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 10 Nov 2006 07:51:20 AM
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:03:27 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:11:55 GMT, "Jon Stoll" <jstoll1@wi.rr.com>
wrote:

As a professional programmer I always use yyyymmdd because it sorts
properly. I never saw yyyy-mm-dd before, but it strikes me as a good
idea for readability, and it would also sort properly. In fact. I
think that it's a great idea.


Depends on the intended use. Some databases require it one way, some
another, some don't care as long as it's not dd-mm-yyyy or dd/mm/yyyy.


I used to worry about things like that in the days of CP/M and dBase II but
most modern databases and languages store the date as a number of days from
some starting point.
As long as it's a valid date it will accept it in one format 1/1/1 and can
display it in another, January, 1st , 2001. Leave off the year and don't
force teh delimiters and 1 1 will be accepted as 01/01/2006 etc.
But then I used Pick and Pick clones from 1984 until the early 90's.

I program for Oracle 7 running on VMS (from Windows). It uses 2 date
formats, ANSI or VMS. I don't have the formats here at home, but from
memory you have to send it either yyyy-mm-dd or mm-dd-yyyy (as a
string, with the dashes, cast as a date) depending on which format the
field was created as.
Programming means never getting bored.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so
long as I'm the dictator."
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User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 09 Nov 2006 11:05:24 AM
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 05:00:51 GMT, in alt.atheism , "Dale"
<dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> in
<7Cy4h.1208$GS2.545@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> wrote:

"Barry OGrady" <god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4lf5l2d7mtgp2o5hcns6usdu1lph488fa1@4ax.com...

Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


Cheeky foreigner devils with your foreign date sequences!

(Actually, I prefer yyyy-mm-dd because it goes logically with hh:mm:ss.)

It also sorts easily.
--
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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 08 Nov 2006 10:48:06 PM
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:40:35 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?

What particular significance did November 9th, 2001 have?
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 08 Nov 2006 11:08:45 PM
raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:40:35 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


What particular significance did November 9th, 2001 have?

I got a paper cut. Very traumatic.
--
Doc Smartass
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses." -- Relf's Law
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 09 Nov 2006 03:39:02 PM
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:40:35 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


What particular significance did November 9th, 2001 have?


I got a paper cut. Very traumatic.

I had a lovely spinach salad for lunch - Not too traumatizing ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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User: "Greywolf"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 09 Nov 2006 03:56:12 PM
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raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:40:35 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


What particular significance did November 9th, 2001 have?


I got a paper cut. Very traumatic.


I had a lovely spinach salad for lunch - Not too traumatizing ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557

It'll be the day that I fully realized that the '7th Cavalry' is not coming
to the rescue. Disgusting, really.
Greywolf
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User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 09 Nov 2006 10:07:46 PM
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 05:08:45 +0000, Doc Smartass wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:40:35 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


What particular significance did November 9th, 2001 have?


I got a paper cut. Very traumatic.

It would have been if: ...to make a long story short, it got infected,
and you died, and you're standing outside the Pearly Gates, and it's
obvious that St Peter doesn't like the Nehru jacket that you're wearing,
and he tells you they have a dress code, so they let you in anyway but you
get a room next to a noisy ice machine for all eternity, and every day he
runs by screaming, 'Everything you know is wrong'!
--
MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
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User: "Doc Smartass"

Title: Re: Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01? 10 Nov 2006 07:26:40 PM
MarkA <toor@nowhere.com> wrote in
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 05:08:45 +0000, Doc Smartass wrote:

raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote in
news:cmc5l29s08vpprcauq8mih8a7gvmbehbg1@4ax.com:

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:40:35 +1000, Barry OGrady
<god_free_jones@yahoo.com> wrote:

Today is 9/11/06 - How will you remember 9/11/01?


What particular significance did November 9th, 2001 have?


I got a paper cut. Very traumatic.


It would have been if: ...to make a long story short, it got
infected, and you died, and you're standing outside the Pearly Gates,
and it's obvious that St Peter doesn't like the Nehru jacket that
you're wearing, and he tells you they have a dress code, so they let
you in anyway but you get a room next to a noisy ice machine for all
eternity, and every day he runs by screaming, 'Everything you know is
wrong'!

It was much worse than all that. Couldn't play guitar for days.
--
Doc Smartass
"***** repeated to the limit of infinity asymptotically approaches
the odour of roses." -- Relf's Law
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