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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "iksgorkon"
Date: 20 May 2005 01:09:50 AM
Object: Today Is thursay
Good Morning,
Here is my son address so you can tell him how crazy i am. i
need help bad but no body help me.please help
Antinio Santana Jr 1064 everette st, Camden nj
856 968-0004
help me
Iksgorkon
Jabriol
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User: "Barry Trotter"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 20 May 2005 06:09:43 AM
In the great debate about "Today Is thursay" in alt.atheism,
Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (iksgorkon) catapaulted the
following boulder:

Good Morning,

Here is my son address so you can tell him how crazy i am. i
need help bad but no body help me.please help

Antinio Santana Jr 1064 everette st, Camden nj
856 968-0004

help me
Iksgorkon
Jabriol


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Hmm.. It would be nice to be able to believe that Jabbertroll could be
that honest.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 20 May 2005 06:20:37 AM
What you are reading is an attempt by Carol to have others harras me.
she been doing this for years to no avail.
She is mad because her home group Rec.pond is now known as
wrecked.sewers
And it is all her fault. Her fellows ponders have slapped her down so
hard, she can only post using remailers and forged identities.
It eats her shorts she got bested by a man, and this is about the only
thing she can do, which show the pathetic state of mind she is in.
Barry Trotter wrote:

In the great debate about "Today Is thursay" in alt.atheism,
Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (iksgorkon) catapaulted the
following boulder:

Good Morning,

Here is my son address so you can tell him how crazy i am. i
need help bad but no body help me.please help

Antinio Santana Jr 1064 everette st, Camden nj
856 968-0004

help me
Iksgorkon
Jabriol


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Hmm.. It would be nice to be able to believe that Jabbertroll could

be

that honest.

David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208

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User: "Barry Trotter"

Title: Re: Re: Today Is thursay 20 May 2005 06:32:19 AM
In the great debate about "Re: Today Is thursay" in alt.atheism,
"jabriol" <jabriol@hotmail.com> catapaulted the following boulder:


Barry Trotter wrote:

In the great debate about "Today Is thursay" in alt.atheism,
Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header (iksgorkon) catapaulted the
following boulder:

Good Morning,

Here is my son address so you can tell him how crazy i am. i
need help bad but no body help me.please help

Antinio Santana Jr 1064 everette st, Camden nj
856 968-0004

help me
Iksgorkon
Jabriol


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This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.



Hmm.. It would be nice to be able to believe that Jabbertroll could

be

that honest.

What you are reading is an attempt by Carol to have others harras me.
she been doing this for years to no avail.

She is mad because her home group Rec.pond is now known as
wrecked.sewers
And it is all her fault. Her fellows ponders have slapped her down so
hard, she can only post using remailers and forged identities.
It eats her shorts she got bested by a man, and this is about the only
thing she can do, which show the pathetic state of mind she is in.

Well, there you go.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N. aa #2208
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User: "Maxx Pollare"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 20 May 2005 07:29:18 AM
The voice of "jabriol" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...

What you are reading is an attempt by Carol to have others harras
me. she been doing this for years to no avail.

Still no proof...

She is mad because her home group Rec.pond is now known as
wrecked.sewers and it is all her fault. Her fellows ponders
have slapped her down so hard, she can only post using remailers
and forged identities.

Which is a flat out lie... The only one creating forgeries and
crossposting this crap is you Jabriol.
--
Maxx Pollare, a "small god" in his own mind...
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User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 20 May 2005 09:13:37 AM
Maxx Pollare wrote:

The voice of "jabriol" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...

What you are reading is an attempt by Carol to have others harras
me. she been doing this for years to no avail.


Still no proof...

use your imagination. beside proof was provided yesterday and you
choose to ignore, and frankly I dont care.

She is mad because her home group Rec.pond is now known as
wrecked.sewers and it is all her fault. Her fellows ponders
have slapped her down so hard, she can only post using remailers
and forged identities.


Which is a flat out lie... The only one creating forgeries and
crossposting this crap is you Jabriol.

You just claim, that there is no proof of carol using remailers and
forgeries, and now you calim it is a lie. Either it is a lie, or it is
not. Can't be both.
look at rec.ponds No matter where Carol tries to parasite herself on a
thread, she is ignored, except by Derek. That should be evidence
enough. She was slaped down by almost every legit ponder on that group
and kill filed by the more serious ones tired by her crapola.
you even slaped her down. DE slaped her down so hard, it reminded her
of her first husband face whomping. She a gone hiding, all she does now
is remailers and forgeries, which everyone ignore.
and as long as she sticks around ARJW, I am going to stick around
rec.ponds and AFN.
Have a nice day.
.
User: "Maxx Pollare"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 20 May 2005 03:40:26 PM
The voice of "jabriol" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...

What you are reading is an attempt by Carol to have others
harras me. she been doing this for years to no avail.


Still no proof...


use your imagination. beside proof was provided yesterday and you
choose to ignore, and frankly I dont care.

No, I choose to ignore any proof I can't verify in context...
Where's the MIDs?
Where's the GG pages?
Where's the PGP singed email from your ANON server buddies?
Your the one trying to get Carol "wipped". At least do a decent job
of proving your point... Untill then your just a Troll.
(And no, it's easier to fine a post by it's MID.)

She is mad because her home group Rec.pond is now known as
wrecked.sewers and it is all her fault. Her fellows ponders
have slapped her down so hard, she can only post using remailers
and forged identities.


Which is a flat out lie... The only one creating forgeries and
crossposting this crap is you Jabriol.


You just claim, that there is no proof of carol using remailers
and forgeries, and now you calim it is a lie. Either it is a lie,
or it is not. Can't be both. look at rec.ponds No matter where
Carol tries to parasite herself on a thread, she is ignored, except
by Derek. That should be evidence enough.

Not everyone is eating a Denny's, so it must be bad food...

She was slaped down by almost every legit ponder on that group
and kill filed by the more serious ones tired by her crapola.

No, thier tied of your "craplola"...
Everytime someone responds to her posts you come along.
I *suspect* that now because of your forgiers many of the less
inclined readers have Carol blacklisted/killfiled, but that's not a
"slap down". All it means is that they're tired of playing with you,
so Carol gets punnised as a secondary result (nobody wins).
--
Maxx Pollare, a "small god" in his own mind...
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User: "DE"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 21 May 2005 09:03:30 AM
jabriol wrote:

..DE slaped her down so hard, it reminded her
of her first husband face whomping. She a gone hiding, all she does now
is remailers and forgeries, which everyone ignore.

Pure BS, you "liar liar pants on fire" (always good to respond to the
troll at his own level.)
She apparently took the advice to stop responding to your deliberate
attempts to troll her out so you'd have some material to keep using.
Or, she just got flat-out bored with you and realized that you're just
a mosquito, a persistent mosquito but still nothing more.


and as long as she sticks around ARJW, I am going to stick around
rec.ponds and AFN.

Have a nice day.

Oh, my ... I could've sworn you told us it was Carol's fault that
things were disrupted; now you are flat-out admitting that it's your
fault and your decision.
Next thing we know, you might stop evading the question about why you
claim you can no longer post to arj-w because someone posted a
supposed "child-porn" link, but you can still keep posting _here_
where YOU posted & re-posted that very same link yourself. (BTW, do
your fellow JW's know that you've been posting links to child porn and
trying to get people to view it?)
Oh, silly me, expecting anything but evasions and irrational thinking
from the great-and-powerful Jabriol, King of the Sludge-Dumpers!
-- DE
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User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 21 May 2005 10:32:13 AM
DE wrote:

jabriol wrote:

..DE slaped her down so hard, it reminded her
of her first husband face whomping. She a gone hiding, all she does

now

is remailers and forgeries, which everyone ignore.


Pure BS, you "liar liar pants on fire" (always good to respond to the
troll at his own level.)

She apparently took the advice to stop responding to your deliberate
attempts to troll her out so you'd have some material to keep using.
Or, she just got flat-out bored with you and realized that you're

just

a mosquito, a persistent mosquito but still nothing more.

Really, I just read another post in the thread where she you slaped her
down again. I told you before she can't keep shut. I posted all the
people from her NG who tell her to keep her trap shut, and she bite
their hands off. Face it. She can't. She won't and above all she
doesn't want too.
She still out there harrasing JW's and Me. and neither you nor anybody
else can reason with here. She will only agree with you when she is
cornered.
Then she will lash out again. As you can see. You know why she lashed
out?
Because Maxx partialy agreed with me. And she can't have that ever.
There is only one way DE. And That is for NSP buddies of yours to yank
her feeding tube.


and as long as she sticks around ARJW, I am going to stick around
rec.ponds and AFN.

Have a nice day.

Oh, my ... I could've sworn you told us it was Carol's fault that
things were disrupted; now you are flat-out admitting that it's your
fault and your decision.

No, unlike Carol, I have nothing to hide and my motives are quite
clear.
She called me an Incestous child rapist. She has disrupted my NG that
is now a porn infested toilet. Then she plays the sweet granny on the
Ohter NG's. It is time for her to take responsibility for her actions.
I will stop when she does, or recant.
That is what her fellow Ponders in a Majority told her to do. She will
not.
And look at the effects..
as they say: "two can play at that game"


Next thing we know, you might stop evading the question about why you
claim you can no longer post to arj-w because someone posted a
supposed "child-porn" link, but you can still keep posting _here_
where YOU posted & re-posted that very same link yourself.

Did I now? Per Carol it was not porn, but a sexy Cartoon of Child
screwing a teddy bear. Now then is it child porn or not?
(BTW, do

your fellow JW's know that you've been posting links to child porn

and

trying to get people to view it?)

Is it child porn?



Oh, silly me, expecting anything but evasions and irrational thinking
from the great-and-powerful Jabriol, King of the Sludge-Dumpers!

-- DE

And yet your Buddie Carol get slap down again by you in another thread.
kettle-pot syndrome I imagine.
bye.
.
User: "DE"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 21 May 2005 08:25:41 PM
jabriol wrote:

DE wrote:

jabriol wrote:

..DE slaped her down so hard, it reminded her
of her first husband face whomping. She a gone hiding, all she does now
is remailers and forgeries, which everyone ignore.


Pure BS, you "liar liar pants on fire" (always good to respond to the
troll at his own level.)

She apparently took the advice to stop responding to your deliberate
attempts to troll her out so you'd have some material to keep using.
Or, she just got flat-out bored with you and realized that you're just
a mosquito, a persistent mosquito but still nothing more.


Really, I just read another post in the thread where she you slaped her
down again. I told you before she can't keep shut. I posted all the
people from her NG who tell her to keep her trap shut, and she bite
their hands off. Face it. She can't. She won't and above all she
doesn't want too.
She still out there harrasing JW's and Me. and neither you nor anybody
else can reason with here. She will only agree with you when she is
cornered.

She has a perfect right to post dissenting views about JW on a JW group.
Any accusations made against you were read by everyone at least a few
of the hundreds of times YOU posted them, not her.

Then she will lash out again. As you can see. You know why she lashed
out?
Because Maxx partialy agreed with me. And she can't have that ever.

There is only one way DE. And That is for NSP buddies of yours to yank
her feeding tube.

Nope, nobody is giving in to your blackmail.
You want to be rid of Carol, learn how to use a kill-filter. Isn't
that easy?
But you won't; you'd rather blackmail others into acting so that you
don't have to take any personal responsibility for your obsession.


and as long as she sticks around ARJW, I am going to stick around
rec.ponds and AFN.

Have a nice day.

Oh, my ... I could've sworn you told us it was Carol's fault that
things were disrupted; now you are flat-out admitting that it's your
fault and your decision.


No, unlike Carol, I have nothing to hide and my motives are quite
clear.
She called me an Incestous child rapist. She has disrupted my NG that
is now a porn infested toilet. Then she plays the sweet granny on the
Ohter NG's. It is time for her to take responsibility for her actions.
I will stop when she does, or recant.

That is what her fellow Ponders in a Majority told her to do. She will
not.
And look at the effects..

as they say: "two can play at that game"


Next thing we know, you might stop evading the question about why you
claim you can no longer post to arj-w because someone posted a
supposed "child-porn" link, but you can still keep posting _here_
where YOU posted & re-posted that very same link yourself.


Did I now? Per Carol it was not porn, but a sexy Cartoon of Child
screwing a teddy bear. Now then is it child porn or not?

I wouldn't know -- you are the one who viewed it -- but if it's not
porn, then stop calling it porn and claiming it kept you from posting
to that group. If it is porn, then admit you posted a link to child porn.


(BTW, do

your fellow JW's know that you've been posting links to child porn and
trying to get people to view it?)


Is it child porn?

YOU said it was; I don't view child porn, so I wouldn't know, but
when you posted & re-posted it here trying to get people to look at
it, you said it was child porn. So I guess by YOUR standards it is
child porn, nonetheless you tried to entice people to look at it.


Oh, silly me, expecting anything but evasions and irrational thinking


from the great-and-powerful Jabriol, King of the Sludge-Dumpers!

-- DE



And yet your Buddie Carol get slap down again by you in another thread.
kettle-pot syndrome I imagine.

bye.

If only ... but since you won't go away, exposing you for the liar,
blackmailer, and evader you are seems to be the next best game in town.
-- DE
.
User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 21 May 2005 11:33:05 PM
DE wrote:

She has a perfect right to post dissenting views about JW on a JW

group.
I see, and this include accusing jw's of pedophilia and accusing me of
raping a 13 year old kid, which happens to be my daughter.
of posting my address and telelphone number out to every Tom, ***** and
Harry.
These are all action of someone who dissents with JW's Got it, loud and
clear.
Thank you for clearing this up for me. How can I be such an idiot.
You are so right. I guess then I can go the rec.ponds group and AFN to
present my dissenting views on Ponders and Free newsservers, using
slander and viscious lying.
And you should have no problem with forgeries, remailers and NYM
shifting.
Remember you said it. Not I.
.
User: "Fred Hall"

Title: Re: Today Is thursay 22 May 2005 10:02:51 AM
On 21 May 2005 21:33:05 -0700, "jabriol" <jabriol@hotmail.com> wrote:


DE wrote:

She has a perfect right to post dissenting views about JW on a JW

group.

I see, and this include accusing jw's of pedophilia

The subject of JW's and pedophilia has been documented in both
television and newspaper reports, so it is reasonable to expect others
to criticize JW's for covering up the problem. JW's are no better
than the Catholics when it comes to covering up pedophilia.

and accusing me of
raping a 13 year old kid, which happens to be my daughter.

I don't know if that part is true or not. I have read your posts in
the past where you wrote of kicking the wayward daughter (or whatever
relationship she was) to the curb. Cutting out a tumor, I believe is
how you referred to it.

of posting my address and telelphone number out to every Tom, ***** and
Harry.

The first person to out your address was you, 'tonio, on June 6, 1999
in MID <928697419.540.40@news.remarQ.com>. You wrote:

wow who ever said I was hidding? Let me help you out here.

My name is Antonio L. Santana Jr.
my Address is: 3072 s.contitution rd Camden nj.

********************************
I also recall you outing your congregation details numerous times in
talk.origins. Do you need the MID's? This whole outing thing is
bogus. Until lately, you were happy to post your RL details.

These are all action of someone who dissents with JW's Got it, loud and
clear.

Thank you for clearing this up for me. How can I be such an idiot.
You are so right. I guess then I can go the rec.ponds group and AFN to
present my dissenting views on Ponders and Free newsservers, using
slander and viscious lying.
And you should have no problem with forgeries, remailers and NYM
shifting.
Remember you said it. Not I.

Shall I remind everyone of you being busted using remailers? Remember
the Mixmaster fiasco of a few years ago?
You are trolling, 'tonio, nothing more. Wrecked.ponds is not the
first group you've disrupted. You have spent a decade disrupting
support groups and religious groups.
You are a trolling attention *****.
--
For those who complain about too much old light,
here's some kooky new light from the WTS:
http://www1.tip.nl/~t661020/wtcitaten/part4.htm
http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org
.





User: "jabriol"

Title: today is a friday... a reply to max LOL 20 May 2005 12:47:09 PM
your right.. ti was a carol forgery however trying to duplicate my
resistance to use a spellcheck
~Roy~ wrote:

Well it was Thursday when you posted it, but now its Friday so what
gives?

Now then Max claim that I am lying when I state that Carol uses
remailers and forgeris as well as the nym shiftaroo but the again then
all of rec.ponds would be lying as well:
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
From: "cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com> - Find messages by this author
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:30:15 -0500
Local: Tues,May 10 2005 2:30 pm
Subject: Re: Welcome to Rec.Ponds (REPOST)
Reel McKoi" <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
"She"? And you wonder why people take all your other explanations
as
lying, Carol. You reposted because you wanted to be a parasite to
kathy's
good intentions to newbies.
~Roy~ Mar 9, 6:04 pm
Newsgroups: rec.ponds From:
(~Roy~)
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:04:31 GMT Local: Wed,Mar 9 2005 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: Evolution in my pond = TROLL ALERT - small fish stinks!
Hey Small fish...she can't help it, she was born the way she is, its
inbred in her gene pool.............She couldn't tell the truth if it
was to save her life, so your really pi$$ing in the wind if you think
your gonna get a sensible and honest reply out of her in any
way........She thinks everyone is as dumb witted as she is, but most
all can read right through her, as well as see how the headers are
altered etc. She thinks everyone is as dumb as she is, fact is she is
the dumba$$ and getting dumber with every post. Regards
Newsgroups: rec.ponds From: "small fish"
That may very well be, but I can't abide liars and see no reason for
Carol to be immune from being called out on her lies or coddled
because of a smattering of on-topic posts. HTH
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carol claims that she never use had a need to use remailers,but while
having and account
she engaged in extensive NYM-shifting to avoid kill files and filters,
once she got booted
from HOT, her new NSP have her restrained and now is using remailers,
her excuse is to avoid spammers and stalkers, why she herself spread
lies and stalk other, again other poster write about her bizarre
behavior, which can be verified by goggle:
From:
(~Roy) -
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:22:29 GMT
Local: Mon,Feb 28 2005 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: NAME CHANGE: Windsong/Reel McKoi
Whats clever..her new user id or her changing her name in the hopes to
evade all those that she pisses off? Now if she could only get it
through her thick solid skull to keep this crap out of rec.ponds I am
sure things here would clean up pretty fast.......
From: ~ jan JJsPond.us <JJsP...@noe-mail.com> -
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:15:19 -0700 Local: Tues,May 3 2005 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: Jan, consider it?

I don't care to compromise my principals.... :-)

Oh please, as often as you've changed the header you have few
principals, imho.

I'm not the one abusing this NG, he is. Perhaps
you can tell Jabbers

OMG, my bad, I have him killfilter, so of course HE'S not bothering
me. I guess if I were to do same to you..... hmmmm, hate to do that,
but... it is tempting here lately. Anyone ever tell you, that you're
bull headed and apparently would bloody your head against a brick wall
before using the door called reason?
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ARJ-W has alrady been destroyed by Carol, using her remailers, she
started to post
child porn to make sure that all legit jw's leave the group so she
could continue
her first amendment right to bash JW's, even her peer like Prominent
Bethelite and Fred Hall, have ask to stop, but she refuse. Her conduct
and hatred has spread to other groups a well:
kathy" <k...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1115160559.646965.108790@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...

Carol,
Your feud with this person is destroying rec.ponds.

From: "cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com> - Find messages by this author
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:32:36 -0500
Local: Fri,May 6 2005 8:32 pm
"Reel McKoi" <inva...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:d5gqq4$lfi$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
If you weren't such a *****, you wouldn't need all your aliases
and
nyms and remailers. You alone, by your obnoxious behavior elsewhere,
brought this mess here. You should be ashamed of what you caused, as
any
reasonable person would, rather than lashing out at people here who
have
given you way more than the benefit of a doubt.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In order to protect her fears, she now claims every newbie or poster is
a Jabriol
sock puppet, but intelligent poster realize it for the lies it is and
they a strategy that seems to work in rec.ponds:
cat daddy May 6, 9:21 pm <furball@.myhouse.com> - Find messages by
this author Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:21:38 -0500 Local: Fri,May 6
2005 9:21 pm
Subject: Re: Cat Daddy, consider it?
"~Roy~" <
> wrote in message
news:42851018.47730334@news.east.earthlink.net...

hey Cat Daddy..if enough of the posters here tick her off we all will
be killfiled, and there will be no one else to respond to, and

maybe

she will move on! I just know you seen that "FLUSH" coming........it
seems to be a stanbdard reply with her when someone dissagrees with
her anymore. I guess the count is about 8 or more of the regulars of
RP and thats not counting those she has run off with all this mess

she

carried in here........

Yeah, I've lurked here for a few years and noticed a lot fewer
regulars since Carol started acting up, and that was before the
crossposted flamewar. I doubt she really killfiles, just as I doubt
the remailer post that just showed up is a coincidence. Why, it just
*must* be another of the Jabriol haters from somewhere else and
couldn't possibly be Carol. Yuk Yuk!
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she also plagued the Health NG
Do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on
A religious organization in good standing in almost every country in
the
world?
Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation
with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and bandwidth on
discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated information.
This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in participating with
her distributing false information elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common
reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why bring it
up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her NSP allows her to do. Just ask them:
support@Shared-secrets.com and

If your newsgroup has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic;
You can report her.
support@Shared-secrets.com and

and her use of remailers can still be traced to her account. You may
inform them that there is UDP against them. No American ISP likes to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected under
the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their block
List
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tnn (she Claims to live in
Nashville). Is a life long underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the 60's and 70's. She claims on her former website
that she had 2 failed marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It
is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been proven
however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with no
place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries. ;And that you the
reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.
Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family
members will INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the
proof, or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-JW's already
"know"
the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality
with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting anything
and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming their a
priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along". A good
example is ant-JW's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO
proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers actually make any
attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles allegedly embodied
in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four
teenagers girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in
hopes of convincing the audience that said excerpt "proves" something
about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's Witness" label mean,
if there's no proof/evidence that those it's applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only?
Do we look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal
in.
replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their
post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other
tabloids..
notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:
"SD" <S...@steam.com> said about Carol
Carol,
When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond with
nothing but weasel tactics.
I know this won't exactly break your heart, but I have no choice but to
regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded wishful
thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the organization more
than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for one to constantly
change their name as you do. Neither one paints you in a particularly
good light.
Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head.
She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can. She's
not here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make
noise,
and lots of it.
.
User: "Ronnie"

Title: Re: today is a friday... a reply to max LOL 21 May 2005 01:13:19 AM
If I was Carol I would sue your sorry ***** for writing this
*****. Your making claims about a woman you know nothing
about again. You wont stalk me though will you? Its always
women and it always involves sex some way. You accused Barb of
haveing sex with horses. Your always attacking their
reputations. You told my wife she deserved to be raped,that
rapes normal. Is that what you told Revis when you did her?
In article
<1116611229.401362.223560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
"jabriol" <jabriol@hotmail.com> wrote: > Why does Carol behave
as she does?


Carol G. Witkowski of Davidson County Tnn (she Claims to live in
Nashville). Is a life long underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as Sex-relief for
biker gangsters in the 60's and 70's. She claims on her former website
that she had 2 failed marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It
is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been proven

however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with no
place to go.

She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain
their moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since.
This has made her a very mentally unstable woman, her hatred is
intense, and due to biker-substance abuse lifestyle, she now needs aid
of a pacemaker.

-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
.

User: "Maxx Pollare"

Title: Re: today is a friday... a reply to max LOL 20 May 2005 04:48:41 PM
The voice of "jabriol" drifted in on the cyber-winds,
from the sea of virtual chaos...

Now then Max claim that I am lying when I state that Carol uses
remailers and forgeris as well as the nym shiftaroo but the again
then all of rec.ponds would be lying as well:

No, thats two difrent things...
I never claimed that Carol wasn't NYM-shifting, or that it was
accepted by the group in general (just ignored). But there's no way
in hell anyone can prove or disprove she's using reimailers/anon
servers, so any clain by you that Carol is just your *opinon*.

Newsgroups: rec.ponds
From: "cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com>


<news:d5qgm5$lhj$1@domitilla.aioe.org>
Out of context...
I saw that as an honest mistake, and corrected her on it.

Newsgroups: rec.ponds From:

(~Roy~)
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:04:31 GMT Local: Wed,Mar 9 2005 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: Evolution in my pond = TROLL ALERT

Didn't make it past my filters, so I don't have it local...

From: ~ jan JJsPond.us <JJsP...@noe-mail.com> -
Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 20:15:19 -0700>
Subject: Re: Jan, consider it?

<news:d0fg71teql51r6ge14vcon4c0iqdbtv0fq@4ax.com>
In context - The entire thread was about "how" to stop or filter out
your posts Jabroil since at the time you had just started to become
annoying. One of the segestions to Carol was to just give in, to
admit to doing something she didn't do (or has yet to be proven),
and if anything that thread just proves that many of the rec.ponds
posters are behind Carol...

ARJ-W has alrady been destroyed by Carol, using her remailers, she
started to post child porn to make sure that all legit jw's leave
the group so she could continue her first amendment right to bash
JW's, even her peer like Prominent Bethelite and Fred Hall, have
ask to stop, but she refuse.

Again, it still hasn't been proven that she is the one using the
remailers... Primarily because you can't prove it.

Her conduct and hatred has spread to other groups a well:


From: "cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com>
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:32:36 -0500
Local: Fri,May 6 2005 8:32 pm

<news:XdqdnSqBRf9dkeHfRVn-ow@giganews.com>
Hey, I agree with Cat Daddy there...
Many of her past posts where misguided, but if take a step back (and
get over yourself) you'll see she was just trying to stir things up a
little by playing the deveil's advocate. She just wasn't any good at
it, and had to resort to slander at times.
My advice (be it a few years too late) it's to grow a thicker skin.
It's time to grow up Jabriol...

In order to protect her fears, she now claims every newbie or
poster is a Jabriol sock puppet, but intelligent poster realize
it for the lies it is and they a strategy that seems to work in
rec.ponds:

cat daddy May 6, 9:21 pm <furball@.myhouse.com>
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:21:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Cat Daddy, consider it?

<news:h5KdnSR6i9iiheHfRVn-qA@giganews.com>
This I found unsubstatiated... Can we say "expert witnness"?
In context - He's a guy who admits to being here for years as a
Lurker, and then flat out connects a Carol with a redution in the
number of posts. How convenient thet her just happens to show up at
the time he's needed... He could have just as easily blamed the lack
of posts on the weather, for all it's worth.
As for the rest of this post; it's hard to tell where you end and
your quotes begin... But I did find this an interesting take on how
you see things, or how your possition colors your world.
--
Maxx Pollare, a "small god" in his own mind...
.
User: "Cracklin"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 20 May 2005 06:19:45 PM
"Maxx Pollare" <leavenospam@dragonfur.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns965CA0D768EACInsomniac@draco.dragonfur.ca...

As for the rest of this post; it's hard to tell where you end and
your quotes begin... But I did find this an interesting take on how
you see things, or how your possition colors your world.

=============================]
I have to put my 2¢ worth in here. Jabriol/iksgorkon/judgedred etc. chops
and snips people's posts until it's almost impossible to know who wrote what
exactly. He only leaves what's beneficial to his agenda. As for the sexy
cartoons (no porn), someone using WebTV posted them as anyone can see by the
headers. So I guess he'll blame me for anything a WebTV user posts, and any
sexually related material to ARJ-W now.
Jan on rec.ponds didn't *discuss* anything with me. She wanted me to do as
Jab's wanted PERIOD, I assume so she wouldn't have to learn to use her
killfile.
The remailers: I'm sick to death of being blamed (by him) for every
anonymous message on the NGs he infests. You already know he harasses ISPs
and NSPs to death to get women he dislikes off Usenet - for spite and
power - and no other reason. He'll do whatever it takes. These anon
messages are nothing new and existed before my time here (see Prominent
Betholite/ARJ-W). No one wants Jabs to cause them their loss of service,
especially since no one can do anything about his net abuse and trolling
activities. All those using remailers are doing is putting themselves in
the "same safe position" Jabs is now in using Google and Verizon/Qwest. He
hates that as it takes his power away. He himself drew people's attention
to posting anonymously when he started crossposting to APAS a few months
ago.
Just like no one can prove he's posting at least 95% of the anonymous
messages himself, he can't prove who's posting the other few.....
Now I'll sit on my hands again... :-)))
CR...........
.
User: "DE"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 09:25:08 AM
Cracklin' wrote:

"Maxx Pollare" <leavenospam@dragonfur.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns965CA0D768EACInsomniac@draco.dragonfur.ca...

As for the rest of this post; it's hard to tell where you end and
your quotes begin... But I did find this an interesting take on how
you see things, or how your possition colors your world.


=============================]
I have to put my 2¢ worth in here.

There it is again, Carol. You HAVE TO?
You can't control yourself, not even for a few days?
Think about it: are you saying anything here that is new? If not,
why do another data-dump on everyone?

Jabriol/iksgorkon/judgedred etc. chops
and snips people's posts until it's almost impossible to know who wrote what
exactly. He only leaves what's beneficial to his agenda. As for the sexy
cartoons (no porn), someone using WebTV posted them as anyone can see by the
headers. So I guess he'll blame me for anything a WebTV user posts, and any
sexually related material to ARJ-W now.

Jan on rec.ponds didn't *discuss* anything with me. She wanted me to do as
Jab's wanted PERIOD, I assume so she wouldn't have to learn to use her
killfile.

So in other words, again, it's for everyone else to filter you out,
not for you to exercise some self-control?
You WANT people in rec.ponds to filter you out completely, rather than
controlling yourself so you can continue to participate in the group?


The remailers: I'm sick to death of being blamed (by him) for every
anonymous message on the NGs he infests. You already know he harasses ISPs
and NSPs to death to get women he dislikes off Usenet - for spite and
power - and no other reason. He'll do whatever it takes. These anon
messages are nothing new and existed before my time here (see Prominent
Betholite/ARJ-W). No one wants Jabs to cause them their loss of service,
especially since no one can do anything about his net abuse and trolling
activities. All those using remailers are doing is putting themselves in
the "same safe position" Jabs is now in using Google and Verizon/Qwest. He
hates that as it takes his power away. He himself drew people's attention
to posting anonymously when he started crossposting to APAS a few months
ago.

Just like no one can prove he's posting at least 95% of the anonymous
messages himself, he can't prove who's posting the other few.....

Now I'll sit on my hands again... :-)))

CR...........

NOBODY CARES.
You should not have posted this, period. It says nothing new and just
invites more people to killfile you. IOW, by your insistence that
it's the READER's responsibility to shut you out, rather than your own
responsibility to exercise self-control, you invite people to ignore
ALL your posts because you won't stay on-topic and in the groups you
belong.
Is there NO WAY for ANYONE to get through to you that you just make
things WORSE by your inability to SHUT UP ON THIS? Is there NO WAY
for ANYONE to get you to take personal responsibility for creating a
situation where you are losing what little sympathy people may have
had for you, because you insist it is EVERYONE ELSE's problem to
killfile you and miss _all_ your posts, because you INSIST on posting
this BS over & over rather than controlling yourself?
Show where there was even ONE LINE in what you posted that was
necessary, anything new, anything we haven't all read you "responding"
with a thousand times before. Show one iota of a bit of reason for
insisting on replying to Jabriol yet again instead of SHUTTING UP like
everyone has told you is necessary in this situation.
-- DE
.
User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 10:18:04 AM
DE wrote:belong.


Is there NO WAY for ANYONE to get through to you that you just make
things WORSE by your inability to SHUT UP ON THIS? Is there NO WAY
for ANYONE to get you to take personal responsibility for creating a
situation where you are losing what little sympathy people may have
had for you, because you insist it is EVERYONE ELSE's problem to
killfile you and miss _all_ your posts, because you INSIST on posting
this BS over & over rather than controlling yourself?

Yes there is. And that will happen When Robb and Dimitry do the right
thing.
But they can't and they Won't.
Because it means that I was right and they were wrong.
I have proven my case.
.
User: "DE"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 08:19:36 PM
jabriol wrote:

DE wrote:belong.

Is there NO WAY for ANYONE to get through to you that you just make
things WORSE by your inability to SHUT UP ON THIS? Is there NO WAY
for ANYONE to get you to take personal responsibility for creating a
situation where you are losing what little sympathy people may have
had for you, because you insist it is EVERYONE ELSE's problem to
killfile you and miss _all_ your posts, because you INSIST on posting



this BS over & over rather than controlling yourself?




Yes there is. And that will happen When Robb and Dimitry do the right
thing.
But they can't and they Won't.
Because it means that I was right and they were wrong.

I have proven my case.

Nope, they already are doing the right thing by NOT GIVING IN TO YOUR
BLACKMAIL.
Too bad nobody has enough energy (yet) to sue you for trying to damage
their business.
It's not Carol disrupting those groups, it's you and by your stated
intent to do just that because you think you should be able to dictate
who someone provides services to, that because you have an obsessive
dislike for Carol, somehow others should let you blackmail them into
acting against her.
It won't work, as you should know by now.
-- DE
.



User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 08:41:08 AM
Cracklin' wrote:>

Jan on rec.ponds didn't *discuss* anything with me. She wanted me to

do as

Jab's wanted PERIOD, I assume so she wouldn't have to learn to use

her

killfile.

She knows I am right, and you are wrong. But you dont know simplicity
even when it urinates in your face.


The remailers: I'm sick to death of being blamed (by him) for every
anonymous message on the NGs he infests.

oh boo hoo... cry us a river.

You already know he harasses ISPs
and NSPs to death to get women he dislikes off Usenet - for spite and
power - and no other reason.

And these women are who exactly? now if you were to count all your
remailers and nym shifting personalities... then you need help.

He'll do whatever it takes.

Yup and after you accuse me of raping my daughter who was a minor, and
that I dumped her on the street. That is the way is going to be. Your
favorite Newsgroup Rec.pond is now a joke. And webmasters are yanking
it from it sites and offereing an alternative. Because you want it to
be that way.

These anon
messages are nothing new and existed before my time here (see

Prominent

Betholite/ARJ-W). No one wants Jabs to cause them their loss of

service,

especially since no one can do anything about his net abuse and

trolling

activities.

Carol, I case you haven't notice you only lose yout service when you
abuse it an commit illegal acts. I still have my ISP, no matter how
many times you have tell people to call them. to have it cancelled. I
still walk the streets, no matter how many you try to get to call the
police and harras me.
I am still a JW, no matter how many people you tell to call my
congregation.
And you know why?
I have done nothing wrong.
in short people here know where I live, Who I am, and where I go to.
But you?
Hide behind remailers and fake e-mail address, and you got kick off
your ISP.
and why? Because you are a coward, and I have Proven to DE, you cant
keep your trap shut. A coward as you who believes she is always right.
Your beliefs are destroying your groups. One day at a time.

All those using remailers are doing is putting themselves in
the "same safe position" Jabs is now in using Google and

Verizon/Qwest.
You are an Idiot. Google, Verizon and QWest are not anonnymous
remailers.

He
hates that as it takes his power away. He himself drew people's

attention

to posting anonymously when he started crossposting to APAS a few

months

ago.

If I cant prove, that you use remailers, you can not prove that I use
them as well. Creepers you are so dumb, you cant even sustain a logical
argument.

Now I'll sit on my hands again... :-)))

CR...........

Yeah sure. How abour sitting on your face.
.
User: "Ronnie"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 10:48:08 AM
In article
<1116682868.725938.190310@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
"jabriol" <jabriol@hotmail.com> wrote: "jabriol"
<jabriol@hotmail.com> wrote:

Yeah sure. How abour sitting on your face.

-=- -=- -=-
Like you made Revis sit on your face? Always thinking about sex
Antonio?
-=-
This message was sent via two or more anonymous remailing services.
.

User: "DE"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 03:09:49 PM
jabriol wrote:

Cracklin' wrote:>

Jan on rec.ponds didn't *discuss* anything with me. She wanted me to do as
Jab's wanted PERIOD, I assume so she wouldn't have to learn to use her
killfile.


She knows I am right, and you are wrong. But you dont know simplicity
even when it urinates in your face.

Is that another example of the high-ground JW morality, Jabriol?
I notice most of your comments to women are overwhelmingly obscene;
is that how you figure God wants you to behave?


The remailers: I'm sick to death of being blamed (by him) for every
anonymous message on the NGs he infests.


oh boo hoo... cry us a river.

You already know he harasses ISPs


and NSPs to death to get women he dislikes off Usenet - for spite and
power - and no other reason.


And these women are who exactly? now if you were to count all your
remailers and nym shifting personalities... then you need help.

He'll do whatever it takes.


Yup and after you accuse me of raping my daughter who was a minor, and
that I dumped her on the street. That is the way is going to be. Your
favorite Newsgroup Rec.pond is now a joke. And webmasters are yanking
it from it sites and offereing an alternative. Because you want it to
be that way.

Oh? You've posted this same "information" at least 100 times in the
last month; _you_ are the one who keeps bringing it up, which would
tend to make one wonder why (unless there's some actual truth in it to
the point that guilt makes you bring it up and mention it again and
again and again and again and again.)

These anon


messages are nothing new and existed before my time here (see


Prominent

Betholite/ARJ-W). No one wants Jabs to cause them their loss of service,
especially since no one can do anything about his net abuse and trolling
activities.



Carol, I case you haven't notice you only lose yout service when you
abuse it an commit illegal acts. I still have my ISP, no matter how
many times you have tell people to call them. to have it cancelled. I
still walk the streets, no matter how many you try to get to call the
police and harras me.
I am still a JW, no matter how many people you tell to call my
congregation.

That so?
The folks at your Kingdom Hall know that you post links to child porn
and talk about urinating on women, and they still let you in?

And you know why?

I have done nothing wrong.

A slur on the morality of all JWs to claim that.
You've done LOTS wrong including what you put in the post I'm replying to.

in short people here know where I live, Who I am, and where I go to.

But you?

Hide behind remailers and fake e-mail address, and you got kick off
your ISP.
and why? Because you are a coward, and I have Proven to DE, you cant
keep your trap shut. A coward as you who believes she is always right.
Your beliefs are destroying your groups. One day at a time.

All those using remailers are doing is putting themselves in
the "same safe position" Jabs is now in using Google and Verizon/Qwest.


You are an Idiot. Google, Verizon and QWest are not anonnymous
remailers.

He hates that as it takes his power away. He himself drew people's attention
to posting anonymously when he started crossposting to APAS a few months
ago.



If I cant prove, that you use remailers, you can not prove that I use
them as well. Creepers you are so dumb, you cant even sustain a logical
argument.

Now I'll sit on my hands again... :-)))

CR...........


Yeah sure. How abour sitting on your face.

Another example of the high moral ground JWs are supposed to take?
Your fellow JWs appreciate your talking so obscenely, profanely,
illegally, immorally, disgustingly ... as a representative of JWs?
Somehow I doubt that your behavior is OK with _real_ JWs (not to
mention what God would consider of it).
-- DE
.
User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 03:41:17 PM
DE wrote:

jabriol wrote:

Cracklin' wrote:>

Jan on rec.ponds didn't *discuss* anything with me. She wanted me

to do as

Jab's wanted PERIOD, I assume so she wouldn't have to learn to use

her

killfile.


She knows I am right, and you are wrong. But you dont know

simplicity

even when it urinates in your face.


Is that another example of the high-ground JW morality, Jabriol?

Do they have high ground morality? according to Carol they are all
pedophiles.
your question is moot.

I notice most of your comments to women are overwhelmingly obscene;
is that how you figure God wants you to behave?


no obscenity. figure of speech. Beside Carol is an atheist.

The remailers: I'm sick to death of being blamed (by him) for

every

anonymous message on the NGs he infests.


oh boo hoo... cry us a river.

You already know he harasses ISPs


and NSPs to death to get women he dislikes off Usenet - for spite

and

power - and no other reason.


And these women are who exactly? now if you were to count all your
remailers and nym shifting personalities... then you need help.

He'll do whatever it takes.


Yup and after you accuse me of raping my daughter who was a minor,

and

that I dumped her on the street. That is the way is going to be.

Your

favorite Newsgroup Rec.pond is now a joke. And webmasters are

yanking

it from it sites and offereing an alternative. Because you want it

to

be that way.

Oh? You've posted this same "information" at least 100 times in the
last month; _you_ are the one who keeps bringing it up, which would
tend to make one wonder why (unless there's some actual truth in it

to

the point that guilt makes you bring it up and mention it again and
again and again and again and again.)

And I will keep bringing it up. After all Carol been bring it up for 10
yrs in a NG you do not read.



These anon


messages are nothing new and existed before my time here (see


Prominent

Betholite/ARJ-W). No one wants Jabs to cause them their loss of

service,

especially since no one can do anything about his net abuse and

trolling

activities.



Carol, I case you haven't notice you only lose yout service when

you

abuse it an commit illegal acts. I still have my ISP, no matter how
many times you have tell people to call them. to have it cancelled.

I

still walk the streets, no matter how many you try to get to call

the

police and harras me.
I am still a JW, no matter how many people you tell to call my
congregation.


That so?

The folks at your Kingdom Hall know that you post links to child porn
and talk about urinating on women, and they still let you in?

feel free to tell them. Carol been telling them the same thing for the
last 10 years.
she also tell them that they are pedophiles.
I guess it will make you feel better, just like it does Carol. This
card of intimidating based on what my congregation knows, been around
for about 10 years
plus. It did not work back then, it will not work now.

And you know why?

I have done nothing wrong.


A slur on the morality of all JWs to claim that.

Carol is an atheist.


You've done LOTS wrong including what you put in the post I'm

replying to.
according to who? based on whose concept of good or bad. Carol made a
serious claim that needs to be address. And eventually she will have to
face it.


in short people here know where I live, Who I am, and where I go

to.


But you?

Hide behind remailers and fake e-mail address, and you got kick off
your ISP.
and why? Because you are a coward, and I have Proven to DE, you

cant

keep your trap shut. A coward as you who believes she is always

right.

Your beliefs are destroying your groups. One day at a time.

All those using remailers are doing is putting themselves in
the "same safe position" Jabs is now in using Google and

Verizon/Qwest.


You are an Idiot. Google, Verizon and QWest are not anonnymous
remailers.

He hates that as it takes his power away. He himself drew

people's attention

to posting anonymously when he started crossposting to APAS a few

months

ago.



If I cant prove, that you use remailers, you can not prove that I

use

them as well. Creepers you are so dumb, you cant even sustain a

logical

argument.

Now I'll sit on my hands again... :-)))

CR...........


Yeah sure. How abour sitting on your face.

Another example of the high moral ground JWs are supposed to take?

Not going to work Debra, beside, according to Carol, I am child
molester, a rapist
Are you agreeing with her?

Your fellow JWs appreciate your talking so obscenely, profanely,
illegally, immorally, disgustingly ... as a representative of JWs?


Somehow I doubt that your behavior is OK with _real_ JWs (not to
mention what God would consider of it).

-- DE

good try, not going to work. Carol has pass the line. this is not about
jw's
It is about her claim that I am a pedophile. And about her taking
responsibility for her actions.
Now are you saying that, Jw's are supposed to be shivering cowards an
take abuse?
.

User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 03:41:20 PM
DE wrote:

jabriol wrote:

Cracklin' wrote:>

Jan on rec.ponds didn't *discuss* anything with me. She wanted me

to do as

Jab's wanted PERIOD, I assume so she wouldn't have to learn to use

her

killfile.


She knows I am right, and you are wrong. But you dont know

simplicity

even when it urinates in your face.


Is that another example of the high-ground JW morality, Jabriol?

Do they have high ground morality? according to Carol they are all
pedophiles.
your question is moot.

I notice most of your comments to women are overwhelmingly obscene;
is that how you figure God wants you to behave?


no obscenity. figure of speech. Beside Carol is an atheist.

The remailers: I'm sick to death of being blamed (by him) for

every

anonymous message on the NGs he infests.


oh boo hoo... cry us a river.

You already know he harasses ISPs


and NSPs to death to get women he dislikes off Usenet - for spite

and

power - and no other reason.


And these women are who exactly? now if you were to count all your
remailers and nym shifting personalities... then you need help.

He'll do whatever it takes.


Yup and after you accuse me of raping my daughter who was a minor,

and

that I dumped her on the street. That is the way is going to be.

Your

favorite Newsgroup Rec.pond is now a joke. And webmasters are

yanking

it from it sites and offereing an alternative. Because you want it

to

be that way.

Oh? You've posted this same "information" at least 100 times in the
last month; _you_ are the one who keeps bringing it up, which would
tend to make one wonder why (unless there's some actual truth in it

to

the point that guilt makes you bring it up and mention it again and
again and again and again and again.)

And I will keep bringing it up. After all Carol been bring it up for 10
yrs in a NG you do not read.



These anon


messages are nothing new and existed before my time here (see


Prominent

Betholite/ARJ-W). No one wants Jabs to cause them their loss of

service,

especially since no one can do anything about his net abuse and

trolling

activities.



Carol, I case you haven't notice you only lose yout service when

you

abuse it an commit illegal acts. I still have my ISP, no matter how
many times you have tell people to call them. to have it cancelled.

I

still walk the streets, no matter how many you try to get to call

the

police and harras me.
I am still a JW, no matter how many people you tell to call my
congregation.


That so?

The folks at your Kingdom Hall know that you post links to child porn
and talk about urinating on women, and they still let you in?

feel free to tell them. Carol been telling them the same thing for the
last 10 years.
she also tell them that they are pedophiles.
I guess it will make you feel better, just like it does Carol. This
card of intimidating based on what my congregation knows, been around
for about 10 years
plus. It did not work back then, it will not work now.

And you know why?

I have done nothing wrong.


A slur on the morality of all JWs to claim that.

Carol is an atheist.


You've done LOTS wrong including what you put in the post I'm

replying to.
according to who? based on whose concept of good or bad. Carol made a
serious claim that needs to be address. And eventually she will have to
face it.


in short people here know where I live, Who I am, and where I go

to.


But you?

Hide behind remailers and fake e-mail address, and you got kick off
your ISP.
and why? Because you are a coward, and I have Proven to DE, you

cant

keep your trap shut. A coward as you who believes she is always

right.

Your beliefs are destroying your groups. One day at a time.

All those using remailers are doing is putting themselves in
the "same safe position" Jabs is now in using Google and

Verizon/Qwest.


You are an Idiot. Google, Verizon and QWest are not anonnymous
remailers.

He hates that as it takes his power away. He himself drew

people's attention

to posting anonymously when he started crossposting to APAS a few

months

ago.



If I cant prove, that you use remailers, you can not prove that I

use

them as well. Creepers you are so dumb, you cant even sustain a

logical

argument.

Now I'll sit on my hands again... :-)))

CR...........


Yeah sure. How abour sitting on your face.

Another example of the high moral ground JWs are supposed to take?

Not going to work Debra, beside, according to Carol, I am child
molester, a rapist
Are you agreeing with her?

Your fellow JWs appreciate your talking so obscenely, profanely,
illegally, immorally, disgustingly ... as a representative of JWs?


Somehow I doubt that your behavior is OK with _real_ JWs (not to
mention what God would consider of it).

-- DE

good try, not going to work. Carol has pass the line. this is not about
jw's
It is about her claim that I am a pedophile. And about her taking
responsibility for her actions.
Now are you saying that, Jw's are supposed to be shivering cowards an
take abuse?
.



User: "jabriol"

Title: Re: today is a friday... Maxx (OFF TOPIC) 21 May 2005 08:26:08 AM
carol you forgot rec.ponds..
Cracklin' wrote:

"Maxx Pollare" <leavenospam@dragonfur.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns965CA0D768EACInsomniac@draco.dragonfur.ca...

As for the rest of this post; it's hard to tell where you end and
your quotes begin... But I did find this an interesting take on

how

you see things, or how your possition colors your world.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D]

I have to put my 2=A2 worth in here. Jabriol/iksgorkon/judgedred etc.

chops

and snips people's posts until it's almost impossible to know who

wrote what

exactly. He only leaves what's beneficial to his agenda. As for the

sexy

cartoons (no porn), someone using WebTV posted them as anyone can see

by the

headers. So I guess he'll blame me for anything a WebTV user posts,

and any

sexually related material to ARJ-W now.

Jan on rec.ponds didn't *discuss* anything with me. She wanted me to

do as

Jab's wanted PERIOD, I assume so she wouldn't have to learn to use

her

killfile.

The remailers: I'm sick to death of being blamed (by him) for every
anonymous message on the NGs he infests. You already know he

harasses ISPs

and NSPs to death to get women he dislikes off Usenet - for spite and
power - and no other reason. He'll do whatever it takes. These

anon

messages are nothing new and existed before my time here (see

Prominent

Betholite/ARJ-W). No one wants Jabs to cause them their loss of

service,

especially since no one can do anything about his net abuse and

trolling

activities. All those using remailers are doing is putting

themselves in

the "same safe position" Jabs is now in using Google and

Verizon/Qwest. He

hates that as it takes his power away. He himself drew people's

attention

to posting anonymously when he started crossposting to APAS a few

months

ago.

Just like no one can prove he's posting at least 95% of the anonymous
messages himself, he can't prove who's posting the other few.....
=20
Now I'll sit on my hands again... :-)))
=20
CR...........

.









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