"randy" <rkluth@wavecable.com> wrote in message
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"Yang

And when you think about it, what better place than FOX News?

As a conservative, I enjoy the "balanced" news FOX brings, both liberal

and

conservative views being represented. Most television networks have been
heavily balanced in favor of the liberal view. The media has thought it
their job to protect Americans from Republican power. But Democratic
government can be just as intimidating, just as manipulative. So why isn't
the media less accomodating towards those like the Clintons?

Delay didn't "incriminate" himself in the broadcast I saw on FOX. Brit

Hume

was quite adept at understanding the legal implications. Nothing Delay did
was illegal. Some might argue that his money scheme circumvented the

spirit

of the law. But since it was legal, he would put himself at a disadvantage
if he didn't afford himself the opportunities that were being presented.

All

parties had access to the same "schemes."

The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1932 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Clinton was weak in foreign policy. It just encouraged guys like Bin

Laden.

It's Bin Laden that's hurt the US economy, and that was his stated
intention. But in the Bush response our foreign policy has been
strengthened. Regardless of the mistakes, the world may not like us, but
they know where we stand. The terrorists are more mouth than act. The
Democrats are playing politics with Bush's foreign policy. The greatest
danger to America is America itself. If we continue to attack our leaders,
if we continue to play the "blame game," blaming administrations for
hurricanes, etc., we'll never get out of the woods. If we continue to live
in hatred, and sin without shame, God will target us--not just Bin Laden!

randy

Our media severely abuses the first amendment. Like most who believe the
vendetta against Tom Delay isn't all political witchhunt are, as General
Honore says, "Stuck on stupid".

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 07:53:59 -0700, "randy" <rkluth@wavecable.com>
wrote:

"Yang

And when you think about it, what better place than FOX News?

As a conservative, I enjoy the "balanced" news FOX brings, both liberal

conservative views being represented.

The mind boggles. These people airbrushed Bush to make him seem as
tall as Kerry in the debate, Randy. This is Pravda-level propaganda.

Most television networks have been
heavily balanced in favor of the liberal view.

No, they've been slanted towards the conservative view. For example,
look at the way they ignored the Blair memos -- the smoking gun that
showed us how the Bush Administration slanted intelligence and lied
about Iraq.

The media has thought it
their job to protect Americans from Republican power. But Democratic
government can be just as intimidating, just as manipulative. So why

the media less accomodating towards those like the Clintons?

Delay didn't "incriminate" himself in the broadcast I saw on FOX. Brit

was quite adept at understanding the legal implications. Nothing Delay

was illegal. Some might argue that his money scheme circumvented the

of the law. But since it was legal, he would put himself at a

if he didn't afford himself the opportunities that were being presented.

parties had access to the same "schemes."

"Spirit" of the law? Since when can you get around a campaign
contribution law by laundering money?

Clinton was weak in foreign policy. It just encouraged guys like Bin

It's Bin Laden that's hurt the US economy, and that was his stated
intention. But in the Bush response our foreign policy has been
strengthened. Regardless of the mistakes, the world may not like us, but
they know where we stand. The terrorists are more mouth than act. The
Democrats are playing politics with Bush's foreign policy. The greatest
danger to America is America itself. If we continue to attack our

if we continue to play the "blame game," blaming administrations for
hurricanes, etc., we'll never get out of the woods. If we continue to

in hatred, and sin without shame, God will target us--not just Bin Laden!

A. It's somewhere between laughable and sickening to hear a Republican
talk about the "blame game" in light of the mostly baseless
accusations the GOP hurled at Clinton, not to mention Bush/Rove's
history of smear tactics.

in article 8_OdnRYKTI0VzKDeRVn-sA@wavecable.com, randy at
rkluth@wavecable.com wrote on 9/30/05 9:53 AM:

"Yang

And when you think about it, what better place than FOX News?

As a conservative, I enjoy the "balanced" news FOX brings,

FOX NEWS LIES

Remember how the conservative talk show hosts had a feeding frenzy when

CBS TV show "60 Minutes" ran a story about President Bush's National Guard
service (or lack of it) that was based on documents that later turned out

be fakes? CBS, and Dan Rather, were lambasted mercilessly for what was
(when looked at objectively) a case of overzealousness.

have checked the sources more carefully. But it wasn't the first time (or
the last time) that kind of mistake has happened in the world of

Cupertino, California, is a city in "Silicon Valley" south of San

Cupertino has one of the best school systems in the country, based on a
number of different measuring sticks. So it was a surprise to the

when Stephen Williams, a fifth-grade teacher at Stevens Creek Elementary

Cupertino, brought a federal civil-rights claim against his school

and the Cupertino Union School District, asserting that he had been
discriminated against because he is a Christian. Williams said that he

been stopped from distributing historical documents to his students

the documents mentioned God.

Some background: Williams was represented by the Alliance Defense Fund, a
nationwide organization of "Christian" attorneys engaged in "battleground"
culture issues, such as abortion and same-sex marriage. The Drudge Report
web site ran a headline that said "DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE BANNED AT
CALIFORNIA SCHOOL." Newt Gingrich (you remember Newt, who had to resign
from his post as Speaker of the House), on the talk-show circuit for a

tour, made the Cupertino case part of his routine.

The Declaration of Independence was not banned at Stevens Creek

A copy of the Declaration hangs in the school's library, and it is

in the fifth-grade textbook--the textbook Stephen Williams taught from.

school principal named in the lawsuit, Patricia Vidmar, is a Christian who
had helped Stephen Williams get a plan for a "Good News Club" through the
district school board, and who also supported a mothers' prayer group.

What Mrs. Vidmar had done was to stop Mr. Williams from handing out a
three-paragraph excerpt from the Declaration, carefully chosen to deliver

one-sided message. She was doing no more than practicing the same

as every school principal in the country. No teacher in the country is
completely free to choose all his own teaching materials.

Mr. Williams was a "born-again" Christian whose proselytizing had already
drawn some parent complaints. Some of the other teachers also complained.
One of them said, "I find it offensive that he feels he needs to

to the rest of the teachers. For one thing, there are some who are

And for those of us who are Christian, excuse me, but I belong to my own
church. I am not interested in having you tell me that this is what you
should do. I know what I'm supposed to do in a public school."

The California "Guidelines for Teaching About Religion," which the

was obligated to follow, says that a teacher can instruct about religion

can emphasize no particular religion.

Fox News either failed to check the facts--shame on them--or they gave the
story the coverage they gave it despite knowing the details--double shame

them. Sean Hannity moved "Hannity & Colmes" to Cupertino for a special
hour-long feature called "Take Back America." Broadcasting live from the
performing-arts theater at the local college, Hannity took to the stage

read the first two paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence, and

"As a nation, when these words of Thomas Jefferson fall on deaf ears,

are we? Or perhaps they fall on no ears at all. Because that is what

people say has happened right here in Cupertino."

This despite the fact(!) that Mr. Williams was allowed to (and presumably
did) teach the Declaration of Independence--including the first two
paragraphs.

Where was the other side of the story? You didn't get it on Fox News.
Where are the conservative wolves who should be nipping at the heels of

"Fair and Unbiased" network? Did the people who criticize the ACLU

complain about the ADF?

I don't believe the conservative media.

randy <rkluth@wavecable.com> wrote:

As a conservative, I enjoy the "balanced" news FOX brings, both liberal

conservative views being represented.

Apparently your definition of "balanced" is quite a bit different than
mine, perhaps you count Bill O'Reilly as a flaming liberal.

Next thing you know, you'll be calling them "fair", too.

But in the Bush response our foreign policy has been strengthened.

Right, if by "strengthened" you mean destroying relationships with
almost every other nation on the planet.

Then again, now that the leading foreign diplomat/soccer mom Karen
Hughes is on the case, who knows?

If we continue to livein hatred, and sin without shame,
God will target us--not just Bin Laden!

I sin without shame all the time. It's a hell of a lot more fun that
way!

randy <rkluth@wavecable.com> wrote:

As a conservative, I enjoy the "balanced" news FOX brings, both liberal and
conservative views being represented.

Apparently your definition of "balanced" is quite a bit different than
mine, perhaps you count Bill O'Reilly as a flaming liberal.

Next thing you know, you'll be calling them "fair", too.

But in the Bush response our foreign policy has been strengthened.

Right, if by "strengthened" you mean destroying relationships with
almost every other nation on the planet.