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"L. Raymond" |
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14 May 2006 08:10:59 PM |
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Tonight's Simpsons |
Ok, I have to be the first to ask who else caught the Simpson's take on
creationism? In parts it was hysterical. Mrs. Lovejoy convinced Rev.
Lovejoy that it was the sort of controversy needed to draw in greater
crowds, so they blackmail Principal Skinner into adding Creationism to
the Science curriculum, and of course Lisa goes ballistic. She's put on
trial for teaching evolution during lunch.
I think one of the highlights was definitely when the school agrees
creationism and science aren't compatible, so they throw out science.
The teacher tells her students to toss their science books into the
garbage bag "while I play this ominous drum". And the prosecution's
expert witness was true to life. When asked if he was a scientist he
said he certainly was, and he has a degree in Truthology from a
Christian university to prove it. And the non-biased video they showed
to prove creationism was scientific, titled "So You Think God is
Lying?", was terribly close to the garbage produced by the likes of
LaHaye and Noebel to support their fundamentalist stance.
Definitely a good episode.
--
L. Raymond
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Tonight's Simpsons |
15 May 2006 02:05:26 AM |
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In article <1x9eahysgsfm6.fi4fcqk2djfi$.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Ok, I have to be the first to ask who else caught the Simpson's take on
creationism? In parts it was hysterical. Mrs. Lovejoy convinced Rev.
Lovejoy that it was the sort of controversy needed to draw in greater
crowds, so they blackmail Principal Skinner into adding Creationism to
the Science curriculum, and of course Lisa goes ballistic. She's put on
trial for teaching evolution during lunch.
I think one of the highlights was definitely when the school agrees
creationism and science aren't compatible, so they throw out science.
The teacher tells her students to toss their science books into the
garbage bag "while I play this ominous drum". And the prosecution's
expert witness was true to life. When asked if he was a scientist he
said he certainly was, and he has a degree in Truthology from a
Christian university to prove it. And the non-biased video they showed
to prove creationism was scientific, titled "So You Think God is
Lying?", was terribly close to the garbage produced by the likes of
LaHaye and Noebel to support their fundamentalist stance.
Definitely a good episode.
Damn! Missed it. I'll have to look for the rerun.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Tonight's Simpsons |
15 May 2006 09:54:28 AM |
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johac wrote:
In article <1x9eahysgsfm6.fi4fcqk2djfi$.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Ok, I have to be the first to ask who else caught the Simpson's take on
creationism? In parts it was hysterical. Mrs. Lovejoy convinced Rev.
Lovejoy that it was the sort of controversy needed to draw in greater
crowds, so they blackmail Principal Skinner into adding Creationism to
the Science curriculum, and of course Lisa goes ballistic. She's put on
trial for teaching evolution during lunch.
Definitely a good episode.
Damn! Missed it. I'll have to look for the rerun.
Absolutely. And look forward to poor, baffled Skinner.
"We want you to teach alternatives to Darwinian evolution!"
"You mean, Lamarckian evolution?"
--
L. Raymond
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Tonight's Simpsons |
15 May 2006 11:50:06 PM |
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In article <1pdm7ikdhs7jp.mjuhv8mq8xkg.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <1x9eahysgsfm6.fi4fcqk2djfi$.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
Ok, I have to be the first to ask who else caught the Simpson's take on
creationism? In parts it was hysterical. Mrs. Lovejoy convinced Rev.
Lovejoy that it was the sort of controversy needed to draw in greater
crowds, so they blackmail Principal Skinner into adding Creationism to
the Science curriculum, and of course Lisa goes ballistic. She's put on
trial for teaching evolution during lunch.
Definitely a good episode.
Damn! Missed it. I'll have to look for the rerun.
Absolutely. And look forward to poor, baffled Skinner.
"We want you to teach alternatives to Darwinian evolution!"
"You mean, Lamarckian evolution?"
Damn! Now I'm really sorry I missed it!
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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14 May 2006 10:53:38 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet L. Raymond
(badaddress@mylinuxisp.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Ok, I have to be the first to ask who else caught the Simpson's take
on creationism? In parts it was hysterical. Mrs. Lovejoy convinced
Rev. Lovejoy that it was the sort of controversy needed to draw in
greater crowds, so they blackmail Principal Skinner into adding
Creationism to the Science curriculum, and of course Lisa goes
ballistic. She's put on trial for teaching evolution during lunch.
I think one of the highlights was definitely when the school agrees
creationism and science aren't compatible, so they throw out science.
The teacher tells her students to toss their science books into the
garbage bag "while I play this ominous drum". And the prosecution's
expert witness was true to life. When asked if he was a scientist he
said he certainly was, and he has a degree in Truthology from a
Christian university to prove it. And the non-biased video they
showed to prove creationism was scientific, titled "So You Think God
is Lying?", was terribly close to the garbage produced by the likes of
LaHaye and Noebel to support their fundamentalist stance.
Definitely a good episode.
I liked the part where Darwin was kissing the devil.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Tonight's Simpsons |
15 May 2006 09:57:17 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
I liked the part where Darwin was kissing the devil.
I loved the bit where the creationist lawyer is cuddling a little fawn
and says, "What's that, Bambi? Who burned down your forest?
Evolution?!" Once the creationism plot got going, the show was full of
great little incidents and comments. But I am 100% baffled by the two
things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen dissolves into
puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing. What was that in
reference to?
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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15 May 2006 10:27:45 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet L. Raymond
(badaddress@mylinuxisp.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
I liked the part where Darwin was kissing the devil.
I loved the bit where the creationist lawyer is cuddling a little fawn
and says, "What's that, Bambi? Who burned down your forest?
Evolution?!" Once the creationism plot got going, the show was full of
great little incidents and comments. But I am 100% baffled by the two
things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen dissolves into
puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing. What was that in
reference to?
Yeah, that and the puzzle pieces. My kids couldn't figure that out either.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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| User: "Arturo Magidin" |
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| Title: Re: Tonight's Simpsons |
16 May 2006 10:02:21 AM |
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In article <Xns97C4D027353B5vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet L. Raymond
(badaddress@mylinuxisp.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
I liked the part where Darwin was kissing the devil.
I loved the bit where the creationist lawyer is cuddling a little fawn
and says, "What's that, Bambi? Who burned down your forest?
Evolution?!" Once the creationism plot got going, the show was full of
great little incidents and comments. But I am 100% baffled by the two
things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen dissolves into
puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing. What was that in
reference to?
Yeah, that and the puzzle pieces. My kids couldn't figure that out either.
I am pretty sure it was a spoof of "Man from U.N.C.L.E.", which used
to dissolve into puzzle pieces for commercial breaks (from whence "Get
Smart" copied the technique).
--
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"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
what I accept as reality."
--- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes")
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Arturo Magidin
magidin@math.berkeley.edu
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| User: "snex" |
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| Title: Tonight's Simpsons |
16 May 2006 12:06:46 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet L. Raymond
(badaddress@mylinuxisp.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
I liked the part where Darwin was kissing the devil.
I loved the bit where the creationist lawyer is cuddling a little fawn
and says, "What's that, Bambi? Who burned down your forest?
Evolution?!" Once the creationism plot got going, the show was full of
great little incidents and comments. But I am 100% baffled by the two
things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen dissolves into
puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing. What was that in
reference to?
Yeah, that and the puzzle pieces. My kids couldn't figure that out either.
according to alt.tv.simpsons, it is from get smart, although i dont
remember anything like that in the show.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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16 May 2006 12:14:28 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet snex (snex@comcast.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet L. Raymond
(badaddress@mylinuxisp.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Uncle Vic wrote:
I liked the part where Darwin was kissing the devil.
I loved the bit where the creationist lawyer is cuddling a little
fawn
and says, "What's that, Bambi? Who burned down your forest?
Evolution?!" Once the creationism plot got going, the show was
full of great little incidents and comments. But I am 100% baffled
by the two things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen
dissolves into puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing.
What was that in reference to?
Yeah, that and the puzzle pieces. My kids couldn't figure that out
either.
according to alt.tv.simpsons, it is from get smart, although i dont
remember anything like that in the show.
Neither do I, and I've seen every Get Smart episode at least three times.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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| User: "Arturo Magidin" |
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16 May 2006 10:57:14 AM |
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Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet snex (snex@comcast.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
[.snip.]
But I am 100% baffled
by the two things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen
dissolves into puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing.
What was that in reference to?
Yeah, that and the puzzle pieces. My kids couldn't figure that out
either.
according to alt.tv.simpsons, it is from get smart, although i dont
remember anything like that in the show.
Neither do I, and I've seen every Get Smart episode at least three times.
Come on! Get Smart used to go to black before commercials by freezing
the image, then blacking out pieces of the screen in succession, pieces
that resembled large jigsaw pieces (usually about 6 or 8, if memory
serves), until the entire screen was black; they would then come back
from commercial to a black screen, and fill in those pieces back to the
frozen image, and then continue the action.
But this was actually a parody of "Man from U.N.C.L.E.", whose
fade-to-black and fade-in-from-commercial were much closer to the one
in the Simpsons last night, with more overtly jigsaw-puzzle-piece
shapes and more subdivisions.
As to the "It's actually Nelson", it could also be a reference to
"U.N.C.L.E.", though it has been far too long since I last saw that; I
strongly suspect it is.
Arturo Magidin, sans .sig
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| User: "Kate " |
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16 May 2006 09:35:02 PM |
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On 16 May 2006 08:57:14 -0700, "Arturo Magidin"
<magidin@member.ams.org> wrote:
Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet snex (snex@comcast.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
[.snip.]
But I am 100% baffled
by the two things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen
dissolves into puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing.
What was that in reference to?
Yeah, that and the puzzle pieces. My kids couldn't figure that out
either.
according to alt.tv.simpsons, it is from get smart, although i dont
remember anything like that in the show.
Neither do I, and I've seen every Get Smart episode at least three times.
Come on! Get Smart used to go to black before commercials by freezing
the image, then blacking out pieces of the screen in succession, pieces
that resembled large jigsaw pieces (usually about 6 or 8, if memory
serves), until the entire screen was black; they would then come back
from commercial to a black screen, and fill in those pieces back to the
frozen image, and then continue the action.
But this was actually a parody of "Man from U.N.C.L.E.", whose
fade-to-black and fade-in-from-commercial were much closer to the one
in the Simpsons last night, with more overtly jigsaw-puzzle-piece
shapes and more subdivisions.
As to the "It's actually Nelson", it could also be a reference to
"U.N.C.L.E.", though it has been far too long since I last saw that; I
strongly suspect it is.
Arturo Magidin, sans .sig
Later reruns would severely cut down the show to stuff in more
commercials. Perhaps they did that with the Get Smart episodes he saw
and removed the puzzle piece effect.
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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17 May 2006 02:03:14 PM |
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On Tue, 16 May 2006 10:57:14 -0500, Arturo Magidin wrote
(in article <1147795034.592556.122340@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet snex (snex@comcast.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
[.snip.]
But I am 100% baffled
by the two things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen
dissolves into puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing.
What was that in reference to?
Yeah, that and the puzzle pieces. My kids couldn't figure that out
either.
according to alt.tv.simpsons, it is from get smart, although i dont
remember anything like that in the show.
Neither do I, and I've seen every Get Smart episode at least three times.
Come on! Get Smart used to go to black before commercials by freezing
the image, then blacking out pieces of the screen in succession, pieces
that resembled large jigsaw pieces (usually about 6 or 8, if memory
serves), until the entire screen was black; they would then come back
from commercial to a black screen, and fill in those pieces back to the
frozen image, and then continue the action.
No, that was The Wild, Wild West.
But this was actually a parody of "Man from U.N.C.L.E.", whose
fade-to-black and fade-in-from-commercial were much closer to the one
in the Simpsons last night, with more overtly jigsaw-puzzle-piece
shapes and more subdivisions.
As to the "It's actually Nelson", it could also be a reference to
"U.N.C.L.E.", though it has been far too long since I last saw that; I
strongly suspect it is.
Arturo Magidin, sans .sig
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³Look, it's very simple. There are a bunch of people out there that believe
in one or more gods. We're not them.³ - Mark Bilbo
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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17 May 2006 10:13:39 PM |
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Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> writes:
On Tue, 16 May 2006 10:57:14 -0500, Arturo Magidin wrote
(in article <1147795034.592556.122340@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
Uncle Vic wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet snex (snex@comcast.net)
made the light shine upon us with this:
[.snip.]
But I am 100% baffled
by the two things with Nelson, when he's in disguise and the screen
dissolves into puzzle pieces with 60's era TV spy music playing.
What was that in reference to?
Yeah, that and the puzzle pieces. My kids couldn't figure that out
either.
according to alt.tv.simpsons, it is from get smart, although i dont
remember anything like that in the show.
Neither do I, and I've seen every Get Smart episode at least three times.
Come on! Get Smart used to go to black before commercials by freezing
the image, then blacking out pieces of the screen in succession, pieces
that resembled large jigsaw pieces (usually about 6 or 8, if memory
serves), until the entire screen was black; they would then come back
from commercial to a black screen, and fill in those pieces back to the
frozen image, and then continue the action.
No, that was The Wild, Wild West.
No, WWW didn't use puzzle pieces, it used the comic-book panels
from the opening credits, each of which changed to a shot from
the show as the show went to commercials:
http://www.comicscardsandmore.com/promos/wildwest.JPG
---
Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Arturo Magidin" |
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17 May 2006 02:07:38 PM |
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In article <0001HW.C090DDA2001A343AF0305530@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Tue, 16 May 2006 10:57:14 -0500, Arturo Magidin wrote
(in article <1147795034.592556.122340@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>):
[...]
Come on! Get Smart used to go to black before commercials by freezing
the image, then blacking out pieces of the screen in succession, pieces
that resembled large jigsaw pieces (usually about 6 or 8, if memory
serves), until the entire screen was black; they would then come back
from commercial to a black screen, and fill in those pieces back to the
frozen image, and then continue the action.
No, that was The Wild, Wild West.
Perhaps it was used in more than one show. Or pehaps I am
misremembering and misattributing.
Alas, Get Smart is not available on DVD yet; WWW is coming out soon,
so I guess we could check.
--
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"It's not denial. I'm just very selective about
what I accept as reality."
--- Calvin ("Calvin and Hobbes")
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Arturo Magidin
magidin@math.berkeley.edu
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