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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Baldoni"
Date: 06 Nov 2007 04:43:56 PM
Object: Too Much Johnson - Orson Welles and Rommel
Orson Welles had met with Erwin Rommel in 1936 while Rommel was in
Denmark on vacation with Frau Rommel. The reason that Welles had asked
to be introduced to Rommel was this.
Welles was desperate for Rommel to play the part of "Augustus Billings"
in his 1938 film of "Too Much Johnson". But Rommel had much on his
mind as Hitler wanted to send the Wehrmact into Spain and Rommel could
see that Germany was going to be taken on a downhill path by a lunatic,
thus he declined.
Rommel had urged Welles not to make the film Citizen Kane which Welles
was planning back then. Rommel understood that WR Hearst was a
powerful ally and if he could be brought onboard then America could be
made more aware of Der Fuhrer's designs for Europe.
This of course was the background for part of Welles hatred of Joe
Kennedy. Welles blamed himself for Kennedy's actions as regards
leaving Britain in the lurch.
I have more information regarding this but would like to state at this
point that Rommel was not a Nazi and was loved by his men and respected
by his foe.
PANZER ROLLEN IN AFRIKA VOR !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVL14HDPUeg
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qJ3JiZBP5Vs
--
Count Baldoni
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Too Much Johnson - Orson Welles and Rommel 07 Nov 2007 10:40:12 AM
"Baldoni @gmail.com>" <baldoniXXV<nientespam> wrote in message
news:mn.35537d7bfddadac0.81063@gmail.co...

Orson Welles had met with Erwin Rommel in 1936 while Rommel was in Denmark
on vacation with Frau Rommel. The reason that Welles had asked to be
introduced to Rommel was this.

Welles was desperate for Rommel to play the part of "Augustus Billings" in
his 1938 film of "Too Much Johnson". But Rommel had much on his mind as
Hitler wanted to send the Wehrmact into Spain and Rommel could see that
Germany was going to be taken on a downhill path by a lunatic, thus he
declined.

Rommel had urged Welles not to make the film Citizen Kane which Welles was
planning back then. Rommel understood that WR Hearst was a powerful ally
and if he could be brought onboard then America could be made more aware
of Der Fuhrer's designs for Europe.

This of course was the background for part of Welles hatred of Joe
Kennedy. Welles blamed himself for Kennedy's actions as regards leaving
Britain in the lurch.

I have more information regarding this but would like to state at this
point that Rommel was not a Nazi and was loved by his men and respected by
his foe.

How is this relevant to alt.atheism?
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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User: "ray"

Title: Re: Too Much Johnson - Orson Welles and Rommel 07 Nov 2007 03:08:50 AM
Baldoni <baldoniXXV wrote:

Orson Welles had met with Erwin Rommel in 1936 while Rommel was in
Denmark on vacation with Frau Rommel. The reason that Welles had asked
to be introduced to Rommel was this.

Welles was desperate for Rommel to play the part of "Augustus Billings"
in his 1938 film of "Too Much Johnson". But Rommel had much on his mind
as Hitler wanted to send the Wehrmact into Spain and Rommel could see
that Germany was going to be taken on a downhill path by a lunatic, thus
he declined.

Rommel had urged Welles not to make the film Citizen Kane which Welles
was planning back then. Rommel understood that WR Hearst was a powerful
ally and if he could be brought onboard then America could be made more
aware of Der Fuhrer's designs for Europe.

This of course was the background for part of Welles hatred of Joe
Kennedy. Welles blamed himself for Kennedy's actions as regards leaving
Britain in the lurch.

I have more information regarding this but would like to state at this
point that Rommel was not a Nazi and was loved by his men and respected
by his foe.

PANZER ROLLEN IN AFRIKA VOR !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVL14HDPUeg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qJ3JiZBP5Vs

Nice theory, except for the jarring fact that if I recall correctly,
Rommel was in fact part of Hitler's personal bodyguard in 1939. The
German Army was never directly involved in large-scale ground operations
in Spain, only small contingents of supposed `volunteers', the
Kreigsmarine was only marginally involved, only the Luftwaffe was
heavily committed.
If the holiday was in the summer of 1938, Welles would have been more
pre-occupied with his famous Halloween `treat', `Citizen Kane' was a
good deal further down the track.
Awesome Orson could hardly blame Joseph P. Kennedy for something that
hadn't yet happened, that was two summers later.
Rommel undoubtedly was a highly respected army commander with good
reason, but this sounds like a bad case of telescopic hindsight, and
Rommel's disillusionment with Adolf came late in the piece by all
accounts. So that's that.
Cheers,
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User: "Immortalist"

Title: Re: Too Much Johnson - Orson Welles and Rommel 06 Nov 2007 11:49:07 PM
On Nov 6, 2:43 pm, Baldoni <baldoniXXV<nientespam>@gmail.com> wrote:

Orson Welles had met with Erwin Rommel in 1936 while Rommel was in
Denmark on vacation with Frau Rommel. The reason that Welles had asked
to be introduced to Rommel was this.

Welles was desperate for Rommel to play the part of "Augustus Billings"
in his 1938 film of "Too Much Johnson". But Rommel had much on his
mind as Hitler wanted to send the Wehrmact into Spain and Rommel could
see that Germany was going to be taken on a downhill path by a lunatic,
thus he declined.

Rommel had urged Welles not to make the film Citizen Kane which Welles
was planning back then. Rommel understood that WR Hearst was a
powerful ally and if he could be brought onboard then America could be
made more aware of Der Fuhrer's designs for Europe.

This of course was the background for part of Welles hatred of Joe
Kennedy. Welles blamed himself for Kennedy's actions as regards
leaving Britain in the lurch.

I have more information regarding this but would like to state at this
point that Rommel was not a Nazi and was loved by his men and respected
by his foe.

PANZER ROLLEN IN AFRIKA VOR !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVL14HDPUeg

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qJ3JiZBP5Vs

--
Count Baldoni

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2000/apr2000/heid-a03.shtml
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User: "DuhIdiot"

Title: Re: Too Much Johnson - Orson Welles and Rommel 07 Nov 2007 11:13:41 AM
On Nov 6, 5:43 pm, Baldoni <baldoniXXV<nientespam>@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>

Welles was desperate for Rommel to play the part of "Augustus Billings"
in his 1938 film of "Too Much Johnson".

<snip>
Rommel declined and Welles reworked the movie to star John Holmes and
some female midgets?
.

User: "Matt Silberstein"

Title: Re: Too Much Johnson - Orson Welles and Rommel 07 Nov 2007 10:04:14 PM
On Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:43:56 GMT, in alt.atheism , Baldoni
<baldoniXXV<nientespam>@gmail.com> in
<mn.35537d7bfddadac0.81063@gmail.co> wrote:
[snip]

I have more information regarding this but would like to state at this
point that Rommel was not a Nazi and was loved by his men and respected
by his foe.

World War II: New Research Taints Image of Desert Fox Rommel -
International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News
"A new documentary broadcast on Germany's ZDF television channel this
week seeks to correct Rommel's image as a gentleman warrior whose
campaigns in North Africa weren't connected with the murderous wars of
destruction Nazi Germany unleashed in Europe."
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,484510,00.html
[snip]
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Matt Silberstein
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