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Date: 01 May 2006 02:47:20 PM
Object: Top 10 Liberal Cities ( the worst of the worst )
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/lists.php?id=14261
Ranked by the editors of HUMAN EVENTS.
10. Seattle, Wash.
Well known for its environmentalist population. Home of Democrat Rep. Jim
McDermott (ACU lifetime: 2%; 2005: 0%) who once claimed Saddam Hussein is
more credible than President Bush and omitted the words "under God" when
leading the Pledge of Allegiance on the House floor. Location of Clinton's
1999 WTO meetings marked by rioters protesting globalism, where more than
500 people were arrested.
9. Newark, N.J.
One of the most densely populated and crime-ridden cities in the country.
Liberal Democratic Rep. Donald Payne (ACU lifetime: 3%; 2005: 0%), who has
been easily reelected since taking office in 1998, said the war in Iraq
could "have been avoided through diplomacy" and defended Kofi Annan in
oil-for-food scandals. Easily the most liberal city in the Democratic
enclave of New Jersey.
8. Berkeley, Calif.
Known as home to liberal University of California. Represented by Democratic
Rep. Barbara Lee (ACU lifetime: 4%; 2005 4%). Denied rent subsidy to the Sea
Scouts because its parent organization, the Boy Scouts, excludes gays and
atheists. According to The Almanac of American Politics, city council in
2004 passed resolution demanding "censure of President Bush for a litany of
grievances."
7. Madison, Wis.
Represented by Democrat Tammy Baldwin (ACU lifetime: 3%; 2005: 0%), a public
lesbian who has pushed for extension of hate crime protection to people
victimized because of gender, sexual orientation and disabilities. City
Council supported a "cities for peace" resolution before the Iraq War began.
Was one of 24 Wisconsin cities that supported a "Bring the Troops Home Now"
referendum advocating immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.
6. Portland, Ore.
A "livable community" that enacted an "urban growth boundary" that has
caused high housing costs in the city that champions a regional light rail
transit system, curbside recycling and land use planning, attracting politic
al and cultural liberals. Democratic Rep. Earl Blumenauer (ACU lifetime: 5%;
2005: 4%), who represents the city, pushes a far-left environmental agenda.
5. Washington, D.C.
A reliably Democratic city that has three electoral votes in every
presidential election. Known for irresponsible, bloated government run by
liberal Democrats. Handguns banned, residents effectively prohibited from
using guns to defend themselves in their homes.
4. Detroit, Mich.
Home of liberal Democratic Representatives Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (ACU
lifetime: 5%) and John Conyers (ACU lifetime: 5%). The first "automobile
city" in America, now known for its high crime rate and unemployment. The
Almanac of American Politics notes that it was "a city where liberal
reformers hoped to create model anti-poverty and anti-discrimination
programs." Named "Most Liberal City" by non-partisan Bay Area Center for
Voting Research in 2005.
3. New York, N.Y.
Represented by several leftists, including Jerry Nadler, Gregory Meeks,
Anthony Weiner and Charlie Rangel, 20 of New York's 29 representatives
earned an "F" grade from the NTU. According to Guttmacher Institute, has
double the national average of abortions. Still attempting to sue the gun
industry and requires firearm registration on top of the state's already
restrictive handgun licensing law.
2. Boston, Mass.
Once represented by liberal Democrat Tip O'Neill, Boston (8th District) is
now represented by Democrat Michael Capuano (ACU lifetime: 5%; 2005: 4%).
The Almanac of American Politics labels the 8th District "by far the most
Democratic district" in liberal Massachusetts. Mayor Thomas Menino blames
city's crime problem on guns from New Hampshire.
1. San Francisco, Calif.
The home of liberal Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (ACU lifetime rating: 3%;
2005: 0%) once claimed leftist Democrat Sen. Dianne Feinstein as its mayor.
Current Mayor Gavin Newsom gave out same-sex marriage licenses in 2004 in
violation of a state law. Board of Supervisors banned smoking in public
parks, passed a resolution urging impeachment of President Bush and Vice
President Cheney and refused to accept the World War II battleship U.S.S.
Iowa. Voters approved a handgun ban last November.
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youngopinions@aol.com
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User: "Bitchin Bonney"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 08 May 2006 11:32:29 AM
On Mon, 08 May 2006 08:57:14 GMT, Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

On Sun, 7 May 2006 17:47:44 -0700, in alt.politics.homosexuality "Stan
de SD" <standesd_DIGA_NO_A_SPAM@covad.net>
<b287$445e9508$45035f0d$16954@msgid.meganewsservers.com> wrote:

|
| "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
| <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
| news:j9gi52t48660r87rnuii6pcmktdcdm4njd@4ax.com...
| > On Wed, 03 May 2006 01:18:22 GMT,
| > Usenet NITWIT, Bill Taylor, wrote:
| > > Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:
| >
| >
| > [ ... ]
| >
| > >> Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a
| > >> snack together at that down-the-escalator food mall where I
| > >> ate most of my meals!
| >
| > > In reality it was the "Down Low" food mall. Craig loves their
| > > quaint queer atmosphere.
| >
| > (LOL!!! This poor, DUMB ***** *still* doesn't realize that
| > egalitarian **straights** who support the gay community
| > in its quest for EQUAL rights,
|
| Redefining marriage, demanding special bathrooms for transvestites, and
| passing "hate speech" codes to silence criticism of certain people, are acts
| that have NOTHING to do with equal rights.


Yes maybe the hate crime laws should be repealled LOL.

HOMOSEXUALS QUASH "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" IN CANADA!
Religious Freedom in Canada DR. CHRIS KEMPLING
Dr. Chris Kempling received a standing ovation for this address
delivered on March 4, 2005 in New York City at a United Nations
Commission on Human Rights Delegate Briefing.
Chris Kempling
Canada is a country which prides itself on religious freedom and
religious tolerance. And in many respects that is true. Citizens are
free to practice their faiths according to their traditions, generally
without interference from the government. And even when someone's
religious beliefs conflicts with a long established Canadian
tradition, great tolerance can be shown, as was the case with the
first Sikh Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer permitted to wear a
turban instead of the regulation hat. That constable started his
career in my home town of Quesnel, and he was accepted and appreciated
by the community.
Unfortunately, there are two primary areas of conflict between
religious freedoms and government policy in Canada: abortion and
homosexuality. A group of eight Christians, members of a group called
Operation Rescue protesting abortion were arrested and sentenced to
jail terms for peacefully protesting outside an abortion clinic. I met
one of the men, Donald Spratt, who was incarcerated in British
Columbia's maximum security Oakalla prison for his crime — he was
holding a sign outside an abortion clinic. Currently, he is awaiting
trial in the BC Court of Appeal for violating the "bubble zone" of an
abortion clinic. Once again, he was simply holding a sign with a Bible
verse on it — Thou shalt not kill.
A man by the name of Bill Whatcott, an evangelical Christian who is a
licensed practical nurse, was fined $15,000 by his professional
association, for protesting against abortion on his own time, and also
fined $20,000 by the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission for speaking
out against homosexuality. There is a great deal of intolerance shown
towards religious people who express their views in public.

In May 2002, a Catholic high school in Whitby, Ontario, was forced by
the Ontario Supreme Court to allow a homosexual student, Marc Hall, to
take his boyfriend to the graduation prom, even though the church-run
school has strict prohibitions against condoning any kind of
homosexual behaviour. And marriage commissioners, who are public
employees licensed to perform civil marriages, were told by Frank
Quennell, the Saskatchewan Minister of Justice, to resign if they
intend to refuse to perform same sex marriages. Several have already.
The new legislation currently being considered by the Canadian
government provides no protection for civic officials who for reasons
of conscience or religious belief will not perform a same sex
marriage.
If Christians say publicly that they disapprove of homosexual
behaviour because the Bible declares it to be immoral, then that is
"promoting hatred". If they quote medical statistics about the HIV
infection rates of homosexual men, that is "promoting hatred". If they
object to their children being indoctrinated in kindergarten class
with information about homosexuality, they are hateful people.
Just a few months ago, a lesbian couple in the Vancouver suburb of
Coquitlam arranged to rent a hall for their wedding reception from the
Knights of Columbus, a Catholics men's service group. When the group
discovered that the marriage was going to be between two women, they
cancelled the rental agreement, stating that their religious beliefs
prevented them from accommodating a same sex wedding. Even though they
paid to reprint the wedding invitations and for the rental of a new
hall, the couple is still suing the group in the BC Human Rights
Tribunal.
Camp Arnes is a camp operated by the Mennonite Church, located on Lake
Winnipeg in Manitoba. A homosexual choir called the Rainbow Harmony
Project booked the camp for a weekend retreat. The Mennonites
cancelled the booking after discovering that the choir was homosexual
in nature, citing their faith, their mission statement and their code
of conduct conflicted with the choir's purpose. The choir filed a
discrimination suit with the Manitoba Human Rights commission, where
the decision is pending. The Winnipeg school district has now
forbidden all school groups from using Camp Arnes as well as three
other Christian camps.
My dictionary says that tolerance is "the disposition to adopt a
liberal attitude towards the opinions or acts of others, especially
those of other religions or ethnic backgrounds." One would think that
tolerance would mean that social liberals would be tolerant about our
religious beliefs. In the Newspeak of today, however, tolerance means
everyone is obliged to take a liberal attitude towards immoral sexual
behaviour, but those who practice that immoral behaviour do not have
to tolerate Christian beliefs which oppose such behaviour.
Then there's the term "hate". If Christians say publicly that they
disapprove of homosexual behaviour because the Bible declares it to be
immoral, then that is "promoting hatred". If they quote medical
statistics about the HIV infection rates of homosexual men, that is
"promoting hatred". If they object to their children being
indoctrinated in kindergarten class with information about
homosexuality, they are hateful people. Apparently Canadians can hold
religious beliefs, but if they tell anyone else in a public forum,
such as a newspaper, they are "promoting hatred".
How about "homophobia". It literally means an irrational fear, even
terror, of homosexual persons. A phobia is a mental illness, which can
be successfully treated. In Communist Russia, dissidents were
sentenced to forced treatment in psychiatric hospitals, not because
they were mentally ill, but because they had wrong thoughts. I believe
it is no accident that the Gay Rights term for disapproval of
homosexual behaviour is a mental illness term. In all my years as a
mental health professional, however, I have never encountered anyone
with an irrational fear of homosexuals. But the definition of
homophobia, as defined by gay activists, is the unwillingness to
approve of homosexuality. Even toleration without approval is defined
as homophobic. So if you have a moral objection to homosexuality, you
are "mentally ill" and require re-education. One homosexual activist,
John McKellar, who opposes the Gay Pride movement, calls the use of
the word homophobia, "a contrived slander" against religiously
conservative people. But activists realize that religious people are
unlikely to change, which is why they are focusing a tremendous amount
of attention on re-educating children in public schools.
Let's take a look at some of the people who have been targeted by
homosexual activists.
Mr. Hugh Owen is an evangelical Christian employed as a prison guard.
He placed an ad in the Saskatchewan Star Phoenix. The ad was a picture
of two stick men holding hands, with a red circle with a bar across,
superimposed on them. Below were four scripture references, but not
the actual Bible verses. In 2001 he was convicted of a hate crime by
the Saskatchewan Human Rights Tribunal and forced to pay his three
accusers $1500 each. The judge in the Saskatchewan Court of Queen's
Bench suggested that using Bible verses in a newspaper ad like this,
could be construed as hate literature. So there is now legal precedent
in Canada that the Holy Bible is hate literature.
Dagmar and Arnost Cepica, a Christian couple in Prince Edward Island
who operated a bed and breakfast in their own home, refused to rent
their bedroom to two homosexual men. In 2001, they were charged and
convicted of discrimination, and rather than fight the matter in
court, they closed their business down.
Then there was the 1996 high profile case of professional printer
Scott Brockie, who refused to print material for the Canadian Gay and
Lesbian Archives, because he felt doing so would violate his religious
beliefs. He was fined $5000 on February 24, 2000, and ordered to print
the material anyway. Mr. Brockie took his case to the Ontario Supreme
Court, then to the Ontario Court of Appeal and lost both times. The
court has ordered Mr. Brockie to pay his opponents legal costs of
$40,000. His total legal bills surpass $170,000. Like myself, he has
set up a trust fund to help him with this burden, as he cannot afford
it himself.
A few years ago, Evangelist Rev. Ken Campbell of Hamilton, placed ads
in a Toronto newspaper objecting to the promotion of homosexuality by
governments and public schools. He had two complaints laid against him
in the Ontario and BC Human Rights Tribunals by homosexual activists.
He went to the tribunals, without any legal representation, and
basically preached the gospel, outlining in detail what the Bible says
about homosexuality. He was acquitted by both tribunals, one of the
few victories Christians have had in disputes with homosexual
activists.
Stephen Boissoin of Calgary, is an evangelical pastor who wrote a
letter to the editor questioning the promotion of homosexuality in the
public school system. A University of Calgary professor has charged
him with discrimination under the Alberta Human Rights act. Last May,
at a fund-raising dinner for him held in a Calgary hotel, masked
homosexual thugs burst into the dining room and disrupted the meeting,
chanting "Right wing bigots go away, Gay Militia is here to stay".
They carried a banner saying "Liberation: Queer Invasion". Their
tactics remind me of the Nazi Brownshirts of the 1930's.
Several mayors of Canadian cities have been taken to Human Rights
Tribunals for refusing to declare Gay Pride Days in their cities. The
most prominent one was Diane Haskett, mayor of London, Ontario. She
was found guilty of discrimination in 1997 and fined $10,000. Her
sentence was issued during her re-election campaign, and she stopped
campaigning. She won re-election by an overwhelming margin anyway.
Also targeted were the mayors of Fredricton, New Brunswick, Hamilton,
Ontario,(Brad Woodard and Bob Morrow), Kelowna, BC and Oliver, BC, as
well as Ernie Reine, the Chief of Police of Regina, Saskatchewan. In
the year 2000 every city in British Columbia was threatened with a
Human Rights Tribunal lawsuit if they did not proclaim a Gay Pride Day
by a group called the Rainbow Coalition. Many cities did, but some
cities stopped making proclamations of any kind just to avoid the
whole controversy. The Mayor of my town, who is a devout Catholic,
refused to sign the proclamation after the city council passed the Gay
Pride Day resolution over his objection.
Another concern by religious Canadians who belong to unions is their
inability to prevent the unions from using their union dues to support
homosexual or abortion causes. Although some labour laws allow union
dues to be redirected to a charity for reasons of conscience, the
process is difficult and expensive, and some people chose to quit
their jobs rather than hire a lawyer to make sure they don't have to
support causes they find morally offensive. My own union, the BC
Teachers Federation, is an active supporter of the gay rights movement
and has published their materials. One of the materials they published
states that King David and Jonathan were gay lovers, and that all
those who are morally opposed to homosexuality are homophobic and
require re-education. Just last month the Ontario Elementary School
Teachers Association publicly endorsed same sex marriage, even though
many of their members are personally opposed to the concept.
Trinity Western University is a private Christian University in
British Columbia which had permission to train elementary school
teachers for the first four years of a five year program. As a
Christian institution, they require all students to sign a pledge that
they will not engage in immoral sexual conduct including homosexual
behaviour, while on campus. In 1995, Trinity applied for permission to
have their fifth year certified. The College of Teachers sent two
committees to investigate, and both of them recommended approval of
the program. But the College of Teachers overruled their own
committees, and denied approval of the University's fifth year
education program, arguing that the University's morality clause would
produce discriminatory teachers. They presented no evidence of that
position and lost all three court cases. Trinity had to spend $1.5
million on the case and only was able to recoup $168,000 from the
College of Teachers. Trinity still has to prove to the College that
they provide "anti-oppression pedagogy" courses to maintain
certification of their education program.
I am a Christian seven days a week, both on the job and off the job,
and I will not compromise my faith to teach falsehoods to children.
Christians writing to Senator Laurier Lapierre to protest Svend
Robinson's hate crime bill, Bill C-250 got this response on February
24th 2004. "You should be ashamed of yourself for reading such books"
referring to the Bible. He continued, "If your god teaches you to hate
and judge, then get another god. You people are sick. God should
strike you dead." And in response to one writer who signed her letter,
"in God's service", he said, "This letter is more in the devil's
service." Senator Lapierre later apologized after receiving a storm of
criticism over his hate filled comments. Just recently, Pierre
Pettigrew, Canada's minister of foreign affairs, suggested that
churches had no business commenting publicly on the government's same
sex marriage law.
Prior to the last election, Revenue Canada officials, the tax
department, called in representatives of the Catholic and Evangelical
Christian churches to warn them that they could lose their charitable
status if they tried to influence their members to vote for parties
which oppose same sex marriage. One of the most offensive incidents of
anti-Christian discrimination was when officials from the Prime
Minister's office told two Christian ministers not to make any
references to Jesus Christ, the cross, or the New Testament in their
memorial prayers during the Swissair memorial in Nova Scotia in
September, 1998. At first the Prime Minister's office denied forcing
the two ministers to delete references to Jesus from their prayers,
but later admitted they did so because they thought that other
religious leaders would be offended. Muslim and Jewish religious
leaders were free to say whatever they wished, and were able to quote
freely from the Torah and the Koran.
And last month, CBC Radio, the government's broadcasting company,
refused to accept a paid ad from the Maritime Christian College,
because it was advertising a lecture that was going to discuss family
issues from a Christian perspective. No private broadcaster refused
the ad.
The largest school district in the province of British Columbia in the
Vancouver suburb of Surrey was sued by one of its own employees, a
homosexual kindergarten teacher, so that he could use books promoting
same sex families in his classroom. The Supreme Court of Canada
eventually ruled that the school district's decision to forbid use of
the books was influenced by the religious beliefs of some trustees and
parents, and ordered the school board to re-evaluate the books without
any religious criteria. The gay kindergarten teacher was furious when
the school board rejected the books again because two were out of
print and the third had a grammatical error in it. But two lesbian
women are now suing the school board again, because the board had
allowed religious parents from Christian, Sikh and Hindu religions to
explain their concerns about the books in a public meeting, and the
lesbians didn't like their statements. That case will be before the BC
Human Rights Tribunal this summer.
Also before the BC Human Rights Tribunal at this time is a suit filed
by another homosexual teacher. He is trying to force the British
Columbia Ministry of Education to change the entire British Columbia
school curriculum for all grades and subject areas to include "queer
studies" and "queer role models". If he is successful, even students
in religious schools may be affected, as all private religious schools
which accept government funding must prove that they are using the BC
Curriculum.
Three children on Vancouver Island being home schooled, recently
failed to graduate from high school, because their parents refused to
teach them a small mandatory course which included sex education, on
religious grounds. They regarded the course, called Personal Planning,
as an attempt at social engineering and promoting immorality. The
mother, Cheryl Howard of Courtenay, took the case to the BC Human
Rights Tribunal but lost. Her children had straight A's in every other
course.
Then there's my case. On May 9th of 2002 I was convicted of conduct
unbecoming a member of the BC College of Teachers. The reason was
because I expressed my opinion in my local newspaper. Between April
1997 and July, 2000, I wrote one freelance column and six letters to
the editor of my town's newspaper, which questioned the wisdom of
promoting the homosexual agenda. I provided factual information on
rates of promiscuity and disease infection which had been previously
published in scholarly journals. I said that many religions consider
homosexuality to be immoral, that it may be caused by negative
psycho-social influences, and that it was nothing to be applauded. I
said that I would refuse to be a false teacher, compromising my faith
to teach information which the Bible clearly says is immoral. I said
this not in my classroom, or my staff room, but on the editorial pages
of my local newspaper. I had thought that the editorial page was a
place where all Canadians have the right to express their points of
view, whether other people like them or not. I highly value the
freedom of the press, and all points of view should be represented in
our newspapers, including those opposed to ours. But a man by the name
of Hayward Broun once said, "Everyone favours free speech in the slack
moments when no axes are being ground." And how true that is.
I appealed the conviction to the BC Supreme Court, but lost in
February of last year. If this verdict is upheld by the courts,
teachers will not be able to write privately to their own supervisors
to question a new curriculum resource, or write privately their own
elected officials on a matter of public policy, nor will they able to
address the topic of homosexuality in post graduate research papers. I
was disciplined for doing all of these things. This is an unacceptable
restriction of freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and freedom
of intellectual expression.
The College presented no complaints about what I had written publicly
from teachers, none from students, none from parents, and most
importantly, none from any member of the gay community. The people who
did disagree with me did so by writing their own letters to the
editor, and I fully support their right to do that.
The Catholic Civil Rights League, the Christian Legal Fellowship, the
Evangelical Fellowship of Canada, The Christian Teachers Association
have banded together to form the Canadian Religion Freedom Alliance to
assist in my defence. My union is also supporting me. The case will be
heard on April 21 and 22, this year. Joining the College of Teachers
in opposing me is the BC Civil Liberties Association, who feel I
should be suspended indefinitely unless I publicly recant, and the BC
Public School Employers Association.
My school district supervisors have also decided to silence me. They
have disciplined me repeatedly for speaking out, including for
advertising my intention to offer orientation change therapy services
through my private practice. On March 31, I must appear before a
formal hearing of the Quesnel School Board to explain why I publicly
criticized the government's same sex marriage legislation. I am facing
a lengthy suspension without pay, even though not one homosexual
person has complained about what I wrote. I've filed a Human Rights
complaint against the school district for religious discrimination.
I am a Christian seven days a week, both on the job and off the job,
and I will not compromise my faith to teach falsehoods to children.
As servants of the Most High God, it is our duty to speak up
courageously for what is right. I do not know what may become of me,
of my career. My lawyer has told me that my legal costs could reach a
half a million dollars. I have a trust fund called The Christian
Public School Teachers' Legal Defense Fund, but I do not currently
have adequate funds to defend myself. I am trusting in God to help my
defense.
Canada does have religious freedom, but that freedom is under assault.
Thank you for inviting me to speak, and may God bless you all.

ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
Chris Kempling. "Religious Freedom in Canada." United Nations
Commission on Human Rights Delegate Briefing, (March 4, 2005, New York
City).
This article reprinted with permission from Chris Kemplling.
THE AUTHOR
Dr. Chris Kempling Psy.D. R.C.C. is a registered clinical counsellor
in Quesnel, BC V2J 5R5.
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User: "No One"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 08 May 2006 01:18:30 PM
Bitchin' Bonney <bibon@rĂ¢lant.org> writes:

On Mon, 08 May 2006 08:57:14 GMT, Jeff North <jnorthau@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

Yes maybe the hate crime laws should be repealled LOL.


HOMOSEXUALS QUASH "FREEDOM OF SPEECH" IN CANADA!

Religious Freedom in Canada DR. CHRIS KEMPLING

Dr. Chris Kempling received a standing ovation for this address
delivered on March 4, 2005 in New York City at a United Nations
Commission on Human Rights Delegate Briefing.

<snip>
You can find the original at
<http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/persecution/pch0080.html>.
It is highly biased. My guess is that the "standing ovation" was from
Kempling's friends who attended the meeting as members of the public.
At any offical commission meeting, commission members typically do not
give "standing ovations".

Let's take a look at some of the people who have been targeted by
homosexual activists.

Dagmar and Arnost Cepica, a Christian couple in Prince Edward Island
who operated a bed and breakfast in their own home, refused to rent
their bedroom to two homosexual men. In 2001, they were charged and
convicted of discrimination, and rather than fight the matter in
court, they closed their business down.

So, to be consistent, Kempling must also think it should be OK for a
landlord to not rent to Blacks or Hispanics if doing that is not
consistent with the landlord's beliefs. All the Canadian law, like
corresponsding U.S. laws, does is to ensure that all citizens have the
same opportunity to find housing, to travel, and to otherwise live
their lives without undue interference from others.

A few years ago, Evangelist Rev. Ken Campbell of Hamilton, placed ads
in a Toronto newspaper objecting to the promotion of homosexuality by
governments and public schools. He had two complaints laid against him
in the Ontario and BC Human Rights Tribunals by homosexual activists.
He went to the tribunals, without any legal representation, and
basically preached the gospel, outlining in detail what the Bible says
about homosexuality. He was acquitted by both tribunals, one of the
few victories Christians have had in disputes with homosexual
activists.

Oh, so some "activists" got upset, filed a comlaint, and the complaint
was summarily rejected in spite of what is obviously an incompetent
defense. Sounds like the BC Human Rights Tribunal did its job
properly.


Several mayors of Canadian cities have been taken to Human Rights
Tribunals for refusing to declare Gay Pride Days in their cities. The
most prominent one was Diane Haskett, mayor of London, Ontario. She
was found guilty of discrimination in 1997 and fined $10,000.

One wonders what the real story is. :-) Note: it does not say that
she was found guilty for merely refusing to declare a gay pride day.


Another concern by religious Canadians who belong to unions is their
inability to prevent the unions from using their union dues to support
homosexual or abortion causes. Although some labour laws allow union
dues to be redirected to a charity for reasons of conscience, the
process is difficult and expensive, and some people chose to quit
their jobs rather than hire a lawyer to make sure they don't have to
support causes they find morally offensive.

Probably the truth is more like, "a few people chose to quit their
jobs" but most union members simply do not want to micromanage what
their union does.

I am a Christian seven days a week, both on the job and off the job,
and I will not compromise my faith to teach falsehoods to children.

The issue is not that, but whether the guy wants to "not compromise"
his faith by willfully treaching "falsehoods to children".


Prior to the last election, Revenue Canada officials, the tax
department, called in representatives of the Catholic and Evangelical
Christian churches to warn them that they could lose their charitable
status if they tried to influence their members to vote for parties
which oppose same sex marriage.

Very sensible of the Canadian government: if one side of an issue
has to pay for its lobbying using after-tax dollars, then the other
side should too.

And last month, CBC Radio, the government's broadcasting company,
refused to accept a paid ad from the Maritime Christian College,
because it was advertising a lecture that was going to discuss family
issues from a Christian perspective. No private broadcaster refused
the ad.

I.e., separation of church and state.

Also before the BC Human Rights Tribunal at this time is a suit filed
by another homosexual teacher. He is trying to force the British
Columbia Ministry of Education to change the entire British Columbia
school curriculum for all grades and subject areas to include "queer
studies" and "queer role models". If he is successful, even students
in religious schools may be affected, as all private religious schools
which accept government funding must prove that they are using the BC
Curriculum.

So what? All these religious groups should do is to explain to the
kiddies that their own religious practices prohibit partricular sexual
practices and that others do not prohibit them.

Three children on Vancouver Island being home schooled, recently
failed to graduate from high school, because their parents refused to
teach them a small mandatory course which included sex education, on
religious grounds. They regarded the course, called Personal Planning,
as an attempt at social engineering and promoting immorality. The
mother, Cheryl Howard of Courtenay, took the case to the BC Human
Rights Tribunal but lost. Her children had straight A's in every other
course.

Then let the kids spend a week taking that "small mandatory course"
to get their diplomas. At least they'll have some idea as to how
to reduce their risks of catching some nasty diseases if they go to
college and do what many of their classmates do.

Then there's my case. On May 9th of 2002 I was convicted of conduct
unbecoming a member of the BC College of Teachers. The reason was
because I expressed my opinion in my local newspaper. Between April
1997 and July, 2000, I wrote one freelance column and six letters to
the editor of my town's newspaper, which questioned the wisdom of
promoting the homosexual agenda. I provided factual information on
rates of promiscuity and disease infection which had been previously
published in scholarly journals. I said that many religions consider
homosexuality to be immoral, that it may be caused by negative
psycho-social influences, and that it was nothing to be applauded.

I.e., he published false statements against a minority and is now
whining for getting in trouble with his professional association for
it.
I suspect this is the guy's real issue. :_)
.


User: "Bitchin Bonney"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 03 May 2006 09:24:27 PM
On Wed, 03 May 2006 23:51:13 GMT,
Craig Chilton -- GET US OUT THE CLOSET -- NOW!!!
<xanadu222@mchsi.com>

egalitarian **straights** who support the gay community
in its quest for EQUAL rights, outnumber the gays, them-
selves, by 9-1, and that I am one of those straights What
an idiot.

Nod.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 03 May 2006 09:52:18 PM
On Wed, 03 May 2006 01:18:22 GMT,
Usenet NITWIT, Bill Taylor, wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a
snack together at that down-the-escalator food mall where I
ate most of my meals!

In reality it was the "Down Low" food mall. Craig loves their
quaint queer atmosphere.

(LOL!!! This poor, DUMB ***** *still* doesn't realize that
egalitarian **straights** who support the gay community
in its quest for EQUAL rights, outnumber the gays, them-
selves, by 9-1, and that I am one of those straights. What
an idiot!)
___________________
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/ O O\ | trolls. Thank you. |
/ \ | --Mgt. |
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/ |\____\ \ ||
/ | | | |\____/ ||
/ \|_|_|/ | _ ||
/ / \ |____| ||
/ | | | --|
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-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.


User: "Bonnie B"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 03 May 2006 01:44:02 PM
On Tue, 02 May 2006 21:53:04 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

On Tue, 02 May 2006 08:11:01 -0700,
Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

On Tue, 02 May 2006 04:18:26 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! <xanadu222@mchsi.com>
wrote:



[ ... ]

6. Portland, Ore.
A "livable community" that enacted an "urban growth boundary" in the
city that champions a regional light rail transit system, curbside
recycling and land use planning, attracting sensibly-political and cultural
liberals. [I was in Portland to do some TV and radio, April 19-21, and was
*very* favorably impressed by it's efficient and economical light rail and
urban bus transit system. Since I'm over 55, the fare from PDX Airport to
downtown was only a mere 80 cents! But had I been younger, it still would
only have been $1.60! And there's a large midtown zone in the city in
which *everyone* can ride FREE of charge. This is one of the most
modern and progressive cities in America! --ed. ] Democratic Rep. Earl
Blumenauer (ACU lifetime: 5%; 2005: 4%), who represents the city,
supports a responsible and progressive environmental plan.


Ok, so you were in Portland and you didn't call me? How rude!! <g>


Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a snack together
at that down-the-escalator food mall where I ate most of my meals!

You could have had real food, too. There's a neat-looking Brazilian
restaurant on Macadam that I've always wanted to investigate..........

But seriously -- as a Portland resident, I agree that our public
transit system (Tri-Met) is one of the best I have ever experienced.
Prices are reasonable, the buses, street cars, and commuter trains are
well-maintained, and I have always found Tri-Met employees to be
helpful, courteous, and friendly, without exception.
It is also very very rare for a Tri-Met bus, train, or street car to
be running late.


Too bad the same can't be said for Amtrak!

Hey, now -- we have no control over Amtrak. But the train station is
some wondrous architecture, eh?

(But then, the feds partially run that, so no surprise.)

Well, maybe they'll fix that after Chimp finishes swallowing the
generous helping of his own ***** that Stephen Colbert served him last
Saturday night.
OMG!! Did you see that? It was a momentous occasion.

In downtown Portland (from the Rose Quarter transit center on
the east to about I-405 on the west), we have Fareless Square.
Within Fareless Square, all Tri-Met buses, street cars, and the MAX
(our commuter train) are free. It makes getting from any downtown
hotel to the Convention Center and Rose Garden Arena (which are
literally next door to the Rose Quarter transit center) very accessible.
And it beats fighting downtown traffic any day.

And yes, much to the chagrin of some neo-cons living outside of the
Portland-Salem-Eugene area (where 75% of the state's population
lives), --


The Willamette Valley... I once lived in Junction City.

I've never been there, but I'm sure the food is fab. <g>

Portland is a bastion of liberal/progressive politics.


It must be a kick to hear the whines of the impotent RRR Cultists,
as they come up against a faction that they can't even BEGIN to adver-
sely affect. I love it!!

Sadly, the republiCUNTS who do live here are of the hard-core variety,
who still spout off about the "liberal media."
Of course, our own main print source, the Oregonian, didn't say *****
about Stephen Colbert, dispelling the "liberal media" lie once and
for all.

There is definitely a "live and let live" mentality that pervades most
people's attitudes, making Portland a very friendly and attractive
town.


The RRR-afflicted parts of America could learn MUCH from Portland!

And because I live in a non-republiCUNT bloc, I have the luxury of
voting my conscience at the polls, not just casting my vote for the
candidates most likely to win against the republiCUNTS.

Plus, four large mountains can be viewed from Portland, making our
town very scenic.


St. Helens, Adams, Hood, and Rainier were sparkling-clear enough to
seemingly reach out and touch from the plane, as I came in on April 18th!

I was free on the 18th. I could have arranged a welcoming committee.
We're talking red carpet and cheesecake appetizers.

So thanks for the plug, Craig!


GLAD to do it!!

:-)


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

.
User: ""

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 04 May 2006 01:02:45 PM
Bonnie B wrote:

Well, maybe they'll fix that after Chimp finishes swallowing the
generous helping of his own ***** that Stephen Colbert served him last
Saturday night.
OMG!! Did you see that? It was a momentous occasion.

Wow. A *comedian* tell some jokes at an occasion where
comic entertainment is expected, and a bunch of people
are lauding him for his courageous accomplishment.
Isn't it odd that Colbert's comedy routine is
treated as such a major coup? Makes me wonder if
those trumpeting it as such feel like they're otherwise
short on "victories" lately.
I've enjoyed Colbert's stuff, I'm sorry I missed his
performance - I hear Bush's self-parody was amusing
as well.
--
Walt Smith
Firelock on DALNet
.

User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 03 May 2006 08:11:20 PM
On Wed, 03 May 2006 11:44:02 -0700,
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

On Tue, 02 May 2006 04:18:26 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

6. Portland, Ore.
A "livable community" that enacted an "urban growth boundary" in the
city that champions a regional light rail transit system, curbside
recycling and land use planning, attracting sensibly-political and cultural
liberals. [I was in Portland to do some TV and radio, April 19-21, and was
*very* favorably impressed by it's efficient and economical light rail and
urban bus transit system. Since I'm over 55, the fare from PDX Airport to
downtown was only a mere 80 cents! But had I been younger, it still would
only have been $1.60! And there's a large midtown zone in the city in
which *everyone* can ride FREE of charge. This is one of the most
modern and progressive cities in America! --ed. ] Democratic Rep. Earl
Blumenauer (ACU lifetime: 5%; 2005: 4%), who represents the city,
supports a responsible and progressive environmental plan.

Ok, so you were in Portland and you didn't call me? How rude!! <g>

Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a snack together
at that down-the-escalator food mall where I ate most of my meals!

You could have had real food, too. There's a neat-looking Brazilian
restaurant on Macadam that I've always wanted to investigate..........

I wonder how close that was to the radio station where I did my show
on the 20th? It's on Macadam.

But seriously -- as a Portland resident, I agree that our public
transit system (Tri-Met) is one of the best I have ever experienced.
Prices are reasonable, the buses, street cars, and commuter trains are
well-maintained, and I have always found Tri-Met employees to be
helpful, courteous, and friendly, without exception.
It is also very very rare for a Tri-Met bus, train, or street car to
be running late.

Too bad the same can't be said for Amtrak!

Hey, now -- we have no control over Amtrak. But the train station is
some wondrous architecture, eh?

Dunno. Never got to see it. I took the bus down 6th, and then
transferred to light rail at Victory Square, to return to PDX Airport.

(But then, the feds partially run that, so no surprise.)

Well, maybe they'll fix that after Chimp finishes swallowing the
generous helping of his own ***** that Stephen Colbert served him last
Saturday night. OMG!! Did you see that? It was a momentous
occasion.

I missed it. I wish I'd seen it, from what you just said.

In downtown Portland (from the Rose Quarter transit center on
the east to about I-405 on the west), we have Fareless Square.
Within Fareless Square, all Tri-Met buses, street cars, and the MAX
(our commuter train) are free. It makes getting from any downtown
hotel to the Convention Center and Rose Garden Arena (which are
literally next door to the Rose Quarter transit center) very accessible.
And it beats fighting downtown traffic any day.

And yes, much to the chagrin of some neo-cons living outside of the
Portland-Salem-Eugene area (where 75% of the state's population
lives), --

The Willamette Valley... I once lived in Junction City.

I've never been there, but I'm sure the food is fab. <g>

It's probably better at the Brazilian place! :)

Portland is a bastion of liberal/progressive politics.

It must be a kick to hear the whines of the impotent RRR Cultists,
as they come up against a faction that they can't even BEGIN to adver-
sely affect. I love it!!

Sadly, the republiCUNTS who do live here are of the hard-core variety,
who still spout off about the "liberal media." Of course, our own main
print source, the Oregonian, didn't say ***** about Stephen Colbert,
dispelling the "liberal media" lie once and for all.

There is definitely a "live and let live" mentality that pervades most
people's attitudes, making Portland a very friendly and attractive
town.

The RRR-afflicted parts of America could learn MUCH from Portland!

And because I live in a non-republiCUNT bloc, I have the luxury of
voting my conscience at the polls, not just casting my vote for the
candidates most likely to win against the republiCUNTS.

Plus, four large mountains can be viewed from Portland, making our
town very scenic.

St. Helens, Adams, Hood, and Rainier were sparkling-clear enough to
seemingly reach out and touch from the plane, as I came in on April 18th!

I was free on the 18th. I could have arranged a welcoming committee.
We're talking red carpet and cheesecake appetizers.

Yum! The trouble with Usenet is that most people don't know where
the other participants live. Had I know you lived in PDX-land, I'd have
posted that I was coming there!

So thanks for the plug, Craig!

GLAD to do it!!

:-)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.
User: "Bitchin Bonney"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 03 May 2006 09:33:58 PM
On Thu, 04 May 2006 01:11:20 GMT,
Craig Chilton wrote:

I wonder how close that was to the radio station where I did my show

His show is "Strangers In Paradise" and is about two queers in the
Navy.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 03 May 2006 09:53:54 PM
On Wed, 03 May 2006 11:44:02 -0700,
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

On Tue, 02 May 2006 04:18:26 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

6. Portland, Ore.
A "livable community" that enacted an "urban growth boundary" in the
city that champions a regional light rail transit system, curbside
recycling and land use planning, attracting sensibly-political and cultural
liberals. [I was in Portland to do some TV and radio, April 19-21, and was
*very* favorably impressed by it's efficient and economical light rail and
urban bus transit system. Since I'm over 55, the fare from PDX Airport to
downtown was only a mere 80 cents! But had I been younger, it still would
only have been $1.60! And there's a large midtown zone in the city in
which *everyone* can ride FREE of charge. This is one of the most
modern and progressive cities in America! --ed. ] Democratic Rep. Earl
Blumenauer (ACU lifetime: 5%; 2005: 4%), who represents the city,
supports a responsible and progressive environmental plan.

Ok, so you were in Portland and you didn't call me? How rude!! <g>

Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a snack together
at that down-the-escalator food mall where I ate most of my meals!

You could have had real food, too. There's a neat-looking Brazilian
restaurant on Macadam that I've always wanted to investigate..........

I wonder how close that was to the radio station where I did my show
on the 20th? It's on Macadam.

But seriously -- as a Portland resident, I agree that our public
transit system (Tri-Met) is one of the best I have ever experienced.
Prices are reasonable, the buses, street cars, and commuter trains are
well-maintained, and I have always found Tri-Met employees to be
helpful, courteous, and friendly, without exception.
It is also very very rare for a Tri-Met bus, train, or street car to
be running late.

Too bad the same can't be said for Amtrak!

Hey, now -- we have no control over Amtrak. But the train station is
some wondrous architecture, eh?

Dunno. Never got to see it. I took the bus down 6th, and then
transferred to light rail at Victory Square, to return to PDX Airport.

(But then, the feds partially run that, so no surprise.)

Well, maybe they'll fix that after Chimp finishes swallowing the
generous helping of his own ***** that Stephen Colbert served him last
Saturday night. OMG!! Did you see that? It was a momentous
occasion.

I missed it. I wish I'd seen it, from what you just said.

In downtown Portland (from the Rose Quarter transit center on
the east to about I-405 on the west), we have Fareless Square.
Within Fareless Square, all Tri-Met buses, street cars, and the MAX
(our commuter train) are free. It makes getting from any downtown
hotel to the Convention Center and Rose Garden Arena (which are
literally next door to the Rose Quarter transit center) very accessible.
And it beats fighting downtown traffic any day.

And yes, much to the chagrin of some neo-cons living outside of the
Portland-Salem-Eugene area (where 75% of the state's population
lives), --

The Willamette Valley... I once lived in Junction City.

I've never been there, but I'm sure the food is fab. <g>

It's probably better at the Brazilian place! :)

Portland is a bastion of liberal/progressive politics.

It must be a kick to hear the whines of the impotent RRR Cultists,
as they come up against a faction that they can't even BEGIN to adver-
sely affect. I love it!!

Sadly, the republiCUNTS who do live here are of the hard-core variety,
who still spout off about the "liberal media." Of course, our own main
print source, the Oregonian, didn't say ***** about Stephen Colbert,
dispelling the "liberal media" lie once and for all.

There is definitely a "live and let live" mentality that pervades most
people's attitudes, making Portland a very friendly and attractive
town.

The RRR-afflicted parts of America could learn MUCH from Portland!

And because I live in a non-republiCUNT bloc, I have the luxury of
voting my conscience at the polls, not just casting my vote for the
candidates most likely to win against the republiCUNTS.

Plus, four large mountains can be viewed from Portland, making our
town very scenic.

St. Helens, Adams, Hood, and Rainier were sparkling-clear enough to
seemingly reach out and touch from the plane, as I came in on April 18th!

I was free on the 18th. I could have arranged a welcoming committee.
We're talking red carpet and cheesecake appetizers.

Yum! The trouble with Usenet is that most people don't know where
the other participants live. Had I know you lived in PDX-land, I'd have
posted that I was coming there!

So thanks for the plug, Craig!

GLAD to do it!!

:-)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.


User: "Bonnie B"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 04 May 2006 11:10:48 AM
On Thu, 04 May 2006 01:11:20 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

On Wed, 03 May 2006 11:44:02 -0700,
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

On Tue, 02 May 2006 04:18:26 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:



[ ... ]

6. Portland, Ore.
A "livable community" that enacted an "urban growth boundary" in the
city that champions a regional light rail transit system, curbside
recycling and land use planning, attracting sensibly-political and cultural
liberals. [I was in Portland to do some TV and radio, April 19-21, and was
*very* favorably impressed by it's efficient and economical light rail and
urban bus transit system. Since I'm over 55, the fare from PDX Airport to
downtown was only a mere 80 cents! But had I been younger, it still would
only have been $1.60! And there's a large midtown zone in the city in
which *everyone* can ride FREE of charge. This is one of the most
modern and progressive cities in America! --ed. ] Democratic Rep. Earl
Blumenauer (ACU lifetime: 5%; 2005: 4%), who represents the city,
supports a responsible and progressive environmental plan.


Ok, so you were in Portland and you didn't call me? How rude!! <g>


Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a snack together
at that down-the-escalator food mall where I ate most of my meals!


You could have had real food, too. There's a neat-looking Brazilian
restaurant on Macadam that I've always wanted to investigate..........


I wonder how close that was to the radio station where I did my show
on the 20th? It's on Macadam.

What radio station?
And I can't believe you didn't mention that you were a famous radio
personality/guest.
Modesty and humility are great, hon, but *I* enjoy being kept in the
information loop.

But seriously -- as a Portland resident, I agree that our public
transit system (Tri-Met) is one of the best I have ever experienced.
Prices are reasonable, the buses, street cars, and commuter trains are
well-maintained, and I have always found Tri-Met employees to be
helpful, courteous, and friendly, without exception.
It is also very very rare for a Tri-Met bus, train, or street car to
be running late.


Too bad the same can't be said for Amtrak!


Hey, now -- we have no control over Amtrak. But the train station is
some wondrous architecture, eh?


Dunno. Never got to see it. I took the bus down 6th, and then
transferred to light rail at Victory Square,

_Pioneer_ Square. <g>
It's ok. I once couldn't find PGE Park, because I was expecting trees,
hills, and grass,not a baseball field.

to return to PDX Airport.

Isn't it great how the MAX runs from downtown literally to the stairs
at the main terminal of PDX?

(But then, the feds partially run that, so no surprise.)


Well, maybe they'll fix that after Chimp finishes swallowing the
generous helping of his own ***** that Stephen Colbert served him last
Saturday night. OMG!! Did you see that? It was a momentous
occasion.


I missed it. I wish I'd seen it, from what you just said.

You can still see it.
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/node/3002
The link to the video is at the top of the page on the right side.
It's about 21 minutes total, and the schtick wit him being stalked by
Helen Thomas is a gas! (Yes, that is really Helen Thomas in the clip)

In downtown Portland (from the Rose Quarter transit center on
the east to about I-405 on the west), we have Fareless Square.
Within Fareless Square, all Tri-Met buses, street cars, and the MAX
(our commuter train) are free. It makes getting from any downtown
hotel to the Convention Center and Rose Garden Arena (which are
literally next door to the Rose Quarter transit center) very accessible.
And it beats fighting downtown traffic any day.

And yes, much to the chagrin of some neo-cons living outside of the
Portland-Salem-Eugene area (where 75% of the state's population
lives), --


The Willamette Valley... I once lived in Junction City.


I've never been there, but I'm sure the food is fab. <g>


It's probably better at the Brazilian place! :)

I would guess so.

Portland is a bastion of liberal/progressive politics.


It must be a kick to hear the whines of the impotent RRR Cultists,
as they come up against a faction that they can't even BEGIN to adver-
sely affect. I love it!!


Sadly, the republiCUNTS who do live here are of the hard-core variety,
who still spout off about the "liberal media." Of course, our own main
print source, the Oregonian, didn't say ***** about Stephen Colbert,
dispelling the "liberal media" lie once and for all.


There is definitely a "live and let live" mentality that pervades most
people's attitudes, making Portland a very friendly and attractive
town.


The RRR-afflicted parts of America could learn MUCH from Portland!


And because I live in a non-republiCUNT bloc, I have the luxury of
voting my conscience at the polls, not just casting my vote for the
candidates most likely to win against the republiCUNTS.


Plus, four large mountains can be viewed from Portland, making our
town very scenic.


St. Helens, Adams, Hood, and Rainier were sparkling-clear enough to
seemingly reach out and touch from the plane, as I came in on April 18th!


I was free on the 18th. I could have arranged a welcoming committee.
We're talking red carpet and cheesecake appetizers.


Yum! The trouble with Usenet is that most people don't know where
the other participants live. Had I know you lived in PDX-land, I'd have
posted that I was coming there!

Well, Bill Taylor knows I live in Portland (even though he routinely
claims I live in Atlanta, GA, of all places!) Why didn't you? <g>

So thanks for the plug, Craig!


GLAD to do it!!


:-)


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>

.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 04 May 2006 07:05:23 PM
On Thu, 04 May 2006 09:10:48 -0700,
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

On Thu, 04 May 2006 01:11:20 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

6. Portland, Ore.
A "livable community" that enacted an "urban growth boundary" in the
city that champions a regional light rail transit system, curbside
recycling and land use planning, attracting sensibly-political and cultural
liberals. [I was in Portland to do some TV and radio, April 19-21, and was
*very* favorably impressed by it's efficient and economical light rail and
urban bus transit system. Since I'm over 55, the fare from PDX Airport to
downtown was only a mere 80 cents! But had I been younger, it still would
only have been $1.60! And there's a large midtown zone in the city in
which *everyone* can ride FREE of charge. This is one of the most
modern and progressive cities in America! --ed. ] Democratic Rep. Earl
Blumenauer (ACU lifetime: 5%; 2005: 4%), who represents the city,
supports a responsible and progressive environmental plan.

Ok, so you were in Portland and you didn't call me? How rude!! <g>

Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a snack together
at that down-the-escalator food mall where I ate most of my meals!

You could have had real food, too. There's a neat-looking Brazilian
restaurant on Macadam that I've always wanted to investigate..........

I wonder how close that was to the radio station where I did my show
on the 20th? It's on Macadam.

What radio station?

KEX-AM-1190 Radio. Late afternoon show.

And I can't believe you didn't mention that you were a famous radio
personality/guest.

Fame is relative. Two days after any show done by any guest OTHER
than a famous entertainer, movie star, etc., the guest appearance has
become the equivalent of electronic bird cage liner. Forgotten by all
except those who were interested in the topic.

Modesty and humility are great, hon, but *I* enjoy being kept in the
information loop.

See above. Not "famous." But I have done over 4,000 guest appear-
ances on radio and TV since 1979. Including some on CNBC. The FIRST
one was in Newport, Oregon, in March of that year. Since around 1987,
I've been on KATU-TV's "A.M. Northwest" about every two years, on
average. Including on April 19th.

But seriously -- as a Portland resident, I agree that our public
transit system (Tri-Met) is one of the best I have ever experienced.
Prices are reasonable, the buses, street cars, and commuter trains are
well-maintained, and I have always found Tri-Met employees to be
helpful, courteous, and friendly, without exception.
It is also very very rare for a Tri-Met bus, train, or street car to
be running late.

Too bad the same can't be said for Amtrak!

Hey, now -- we have no control over Amtrak. But the train station is
some wondrous architecture, eh?

Dunno. Never got to see it. I took the bus down 6th, and then
transferred to light rail at Victory Square, ...

_Pioneer_ Square. <g>

Yeah. You're right. How soon we forget!

It's ok. I once couldn't find PGE Park, because I was expecting trees,
hills, and grass, not a baseball field.

...to return to PDX Airport.

Isn't it great how the MAX runs from downtown literally to the stairs
at the main terminal of PDX?

Is it EVER! Upon takeoff, I looked for the "Steel Bridge," which I'd
crossed minutes before. I was surprised at haw far north of downtown
it was!

(But then, the feds partially run that, so no surprise.)

Well, maybe they'll fix that after Chimp finishes swallowing the
generous helping of his own ***** that Stephen Colbert served him last
Saturday night. OMG!! Did you see that? It was a momentous
occasion.

I missed it. I wish I'd seen it, from what you just said.

You can still see it.
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/node/3002

Thanks! I'll check it out! NBC News showed a portion of it this
evening.

The link to the video is at the top of the page on the right side.
It's about 21 minutes total, and the schtick wit him being stalked by
Helen Thomas is a gas! (Yes, that is really Helen Thomas in the clip)

I'll bet!! She's GOOD. One of the FIRST to come right out and
identify GW Bush as the WORST president in American history. (I
hope I can get hold of the issue of "Rolling Stone" that deals with
that, before it sells out or is replaced with the next ish!)

In downtown Portland (from the Rose Quarter transit center on
the east to about I-405 on the west), we have Fareless Square.
Within Fareless Square, all Tri-Met buses, street cars, and the MAX
(our commuter train) are free. It makes getting from any downtown
hotel to the Convention Center and Rose Garden Arena (which are
literally next door to the Rose Quarter transit center) very accessible.
And it beats fighting downtown traffic any day.

And yes, much to the chagrin of some neo-cons living outside of the
Portland-Salem-Eugene area (where 75% of the state's population
lives), --

The Willamette Valley... I once lived in Junction City.

I've never been there, but I'm sure the food is fab. <g>

It's probably better at the Brazilian place! :)

I would guess so.

Portland is a bastion of liberal/progressive politics.

It must be a kick to hear the whines of the impotent RRR Cultists,
as they come up against a faction that they can't even BEGIN to adver-
sely affect. I love it!!

Sadly, the republiCUNTS who do live here are of the hard-core variety,
who still spout off about the "liberal media." Of course, our own main
print source, the Oregonian, didn't say ***** about Stephen Colbert,
dispelling the "liberal media" lie once and for all.

There is definitely a "live and let live" mentality that pervades most
people's attitudes, making Portland a very friendly and attractive
town.

The RRR-afflicted parts of America could learn MUCH from Portland!

And because I live in a non-republiCUNT bloc, I have the luxury of
voting my conscience at the polls, not just casting my vote for the
candidates most likely to win against the republiCUNTS.

Plus, four large mountains can be viewed from Portland, making our
town very scenic.

St. Helens, Adams, Hood, and Rainier were sparkling-clear enough to
seemingly reach out and touch from the plane, as I came in on April 18th!

I was free on the 18th. I could have arranged a welcoming committee.
We're talking red carpet and cheesecake appetizers.

Yum! The trouble with Usenet is that most people don't know where
the other participants live. Had I know you lived in PDX-land, I'd have
posted that I was coming there!

Well, Bill Taylor knows I live in Portland (even though he routinely
claims I live in Atlanta, GA, of all places!) Why didn't you? <g>

Please forgive me for having missed that! (BTW... do you know where
I live? I've never made a secret of it, either.)

So thanks for the plug, Craig!

GLAD to do it!!

:-)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.
User: "Bitchin Bonney"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 04 May 2006 08:53:25 PM
On Fri, 05 May 2006 00:05:23 GMT, Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT
of Iraq -- NOW!!! <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

(I hope I can get hold of the issue of "Rolling Stone" that deals with
that, before it sells out or is replaced with the next ish!)

Try to get a copy of the "ish" that broke the news on homosexual "bug
chaser" and "gift givers." You know those ultra freaks (bug chasers)
who go in search of some AIDS+ homo (gift giver) to ***** ***** them.
Thus perpetuating the role male homosexuals as the No.1 vector of AIDS
in the US.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 04 May 2006 08:57:48 PM
On Thu, 04 May 2006 09:10:48 -0700,
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

On Thu, 04 May 2006 01:11:20 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

[ ... ]

6. Portland, Ore.
A "livable community" that enacted an "urban growth boundary" in the
city that champions a regional light rail transit system, curbside
recycling and land use planning, attracting sensibly-political and cultural
liberals. [I was in Portland to do some TV and radio, April 19-21, and was
*very* favorably impressed by it's efficient and economical light rail and
urban bus transit system. Since I'm over 55, the fare from PDX Airport to
downtown was only a mere 80 cents! But had I been younger, it still would
only have been $1.60! And there's a large midtown zone in the city in
which *everyone* can ride FREE of charge. This is one of the most
modern and progressive cities in America! --ed. ] Democratic Rep. Earl
Blumenauer (ACU lifetime: 5%; 2005: 4%), who represents the city,
supports a responsible and progressive environmental plan.

Ok, so you were in Portland and you didn't call me? How rude!! <g>

Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a snack together
at that down-the-escalator food mall where I ate most of my meals!

You could have had real food, too. There's a neat-looking Brazilian
restaurant on Macadam that I've always wanted to investigate..........

I wonder how close that was to the radio station where I did my show
on the 20th? It's on Macadam.

What radio station?

KEX-AM-1190 Radio. Late afternoon show.

And I can't believe you didn't mention that you were a famous radio
personality/guest.

Fame is relative. Two days after any show done by any guest OTHER
than a famous entertainer, movie star, etc., the guest appearance has
become the equivalent of electronic bird cage liner. Forgotten by all
except those who were interested in the topic.

Modesty and humility are great, hon, but *I* enjoy being kept in the
information loop.

See above. Not "famous." But I have done over 4,000 guest appear-
ances on radio and TV since 1979. Including some on CNBC. The FIRST
one was in Newport, Oregon, in March of that year. Since around 1987,
I've been on KATU-TV's "A.M. Northwest" about every two years, on
average. Including on April 19th.

But seriously -- as a Portland resident, I agree that our public
transit system (Tri-Met) is one of the best I have ever experienced.
Prices are reasonable, the buses, street cars, and commuter trains are
well-maintained, and I have always found Tri-Met employees to be
helpful, courteous, and friendly, without exception.
It is also very very rare for a Tri-Met bus, train, or street car to
be running late.

Too bad the same can't be said for Amtrak!

Hey, now -- we have no control over Amtrak. But the train station is
some wondrous architecture, eh?

Dunno. Never got to see it. I took the bus down 6th, and then
transferred to light rail at Victory Square, ...

_Pioneer_ Square. <g>

Yeah. You're right. How soon we forget!

It's ok. I once couldn't find PGE Park, because I was expecting trees,
hills, and grass, not a baseball field.

...to return to PDX Airport.

Isn't it great how the MAX runs from downtown literally to the stairs
at the main terminal of PDX?

Is it EVER! Upon takeoff, I looked for the "Steel Bridge," which I'd
crossed minutes before. I was surprised at haw far north of downtown
it was!

(But then, the feds partially run that, so no surprise.)

Well, maybe they'll fix that after Chimp finishes swallowing the
generous helping of his own ***** that Stephen Colbert served him last
Saturday night. OMG!! Did you see that? It was a momentous
occasion.

I missed it. I wish I'd seen it, from what you just said.

You can still see it.
http://www.therandirhodesshow.com/live/node/3002

Thanks! I'll check it out! NBC News showed a portion of it this
evening.

The link to the video is at the top of the page on the right side.
It's about 21 minutes total, and the schtick wit him being stalked by
Helen Thomas is a gas! (Yes, that is really Helen Thomas in the clip)

I'll bet!! She's GOOD. One of the FIRST to come right out and
identify GW Bush as the WORST president in American history. (I
hope I can get hold of the issue of "Rolling Stone" that deals with
that, before it sells out or is replaced with the next ish!)

In downtown Portland (from the Rose Quarter transit center on
the east to about I-405 on the west), we have Fareless Square.
Within Fareless Square, all Tri-Met buses, street cars, and the MAX
(our commuter train) are free. It makes getting from any downtown
hotel to the Convention Center and Rose Garden Arena (which are
literally next door to the Rose Quarter transit center) very accessible.
And it beats fighting downtown traffic any day.

And yes, much to the chagrin of some neo-cons living outside of the
Portland-Salem-Eugene area (where 75% of the state's population
lives), --

The Willamette Valley... I once lived in Junction City.

I've never been there, but I'm sure the food is fab. <g>

It's probably better at the Brazilian place! :)

I would guess so.

Portland is a bastion of liberal/progressive politics.

It must be a kick to hear the whines of the impotent RRR Cultists,
as they come up against a faction that they can't even BEGIN to adver-
sely affect. I love it!!

Sadly, the republiCUNTS who do live here are of the hard-core variety,
who still spout off about the "liberal media." Of course, our own main
print source, the Oregonian, didn't say ***** about Stephen Colbert,
dispelling the "liberal media" lie once and for all.

There is definitely a "live and let live" mentality that pervades most
people's attitudes, making Portland a very friendly and attractive
town.

The RRR-afflicted parts of America could learn MUCH from Portland!

And because I live in a non-republiCUNT bloc, I have the luxury of
voting my conscience at the polls, not just casting my vote for the
candidates most likely to win against the republiCUNTS.

Plus, four large mountains can be viewed from Portland, making our
town very scenic.

St. Helens, Adams, Hood, and Rainier were sparkling-clear enough to
seemingly reach out and touch from the plane, as I came in on April 18th!

I was free on the 18th. I could have arranged a welcoming committee.
We're talking red carpet and cheesecake appetizers.

Yum! The trouble with Usenet is that most people don't know where
the other participants live. Had I know you lived in PDX-land, I'd have
posted that I was coming there!

Well, Bill Taylor knows I live in Portland (even though he routinely
claims I live in Atlanta, GA, of all places!) Why didn't you? <g>

Please forgive me for having missed that! (BTW... do you know where
I live? I've never made a secret of it, either.)

So thanks for the plug, Craig!

GLAD to do it!!

:-)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
.



User: "Bitchin Bonney"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 04 May 2006 12:14:37 PM
On Thu, 04 May 2006 09:10:48 -0700, Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad>
wrote:

On Thu, 04 May 2006 01:11:20 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! <xanadu222@mchsi.com>

On Wed, 03 May 2006 11:44:02 -0700,
"Bonnie B" <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Bonnie B <bonnieb@fifismaxi.pad> wrote:

On Tue, 02 May 2006 04:18:26 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Craig
Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:



[ ... ]

6. Portland, Ore.
A "livable community" that enacted an "urban growth boundary" in the
city that champions a regional light rail transit system, curbside
recycling and land use planning, attracting sensibly-political and cultural
liberals. [I was in Portland to do some TV and radio, April 19-21, and was
*very* favorably impressed by it's efficient and economical light rail and
urban bus transit system. Since I'm over 55, the fare from PDX Airport to
downtown was only a mere 80 cents! But had I been younger, it still would
only have been $1.60! And there's a large midtown zone in the city in
which *everyone* can ride FREE of charge. This is one of the most
modern and progressive cities in America! --ed. ] Democratic Rep. Earl
Blumenauer (ACU lifetime: 5%; 2005: 4%), who represents the city,
supports a responsible and progressive environmental plan.


Ok, so you were in Portland and you didn't call me? How rude!! <g>


Wish I'd known you lived there! We could have enjoyed a snack together
at that down-the-escalator food mall where I ate most of my meals!


You could have had real food, too. There's a neat-looking Brazilian
restaurant on Macadam that I've always wanted to investigate..........


I wonder how close that was to the radio station where I did my show
on the 20th? It's on Macadam.


What radio station?
And I can't believe you didn't mention that you were a famous radio
personality/guest.

Modesty and humility are great, hon, but *I* enjoy being kept in the
information loop.

His show is; "Strangers In Paradise" - The story of two queers in the
Navy.
.
User: "Bonnie B"

Title: Re: Top 10 Socially-Responsible and Progressive U.S. Cities ( the BEST of the BEST ) 07 May 2006 01:32:05 AM
On Thu, 04 May 2006 17:14:37 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the stupidity of nym thief
BILL TAYLOR <abuse@easynews.com>

My show is; "Strangers In Paradise" - The story of my father and his buttmonkey
in the
Navy.

.






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