Religions > Atheism > Top (atheist) Physicist abandons trip to Pommyland over Israel boycott.
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Top (atheist) Physicist abandons trip to Pommyland over Israel boycott. |
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00.html
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
Steven Weinberg, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin, had
been invited to Imperial College in July to speak in honour of a
Pakistani physicist, Abdus Salam, and to deliver a talk at a
conference on particle physics.
But today in a letter to his host at Imperial, Michael Duff, Prof
Weinberg said he was withdrawing from the trip.
In the letter, the professor said his decision was triggered by an
agreement by the National Union of Journalists at its national
conference to boycott Israeli products.
He wrote: "I know that some will say that these boycotts are directed
only against Israel, rather than generally against Jews.
"But given the history of the attacks on Israel and the oppressiveness
and aggressiveness of other countries in the Middle East and
elsewhere, boycotting Israel indicated a moral blindness for which it
is hard to find any explanation other than anti-semitism."
A spokeswoman for Imperial said it was "very sad" about the
professor's decision.
Prof Weinberg said the only other reason he could imagine for the
boycott was the NUJ's "desire to pander to the growing Muslim minority
in Britain".
This is the second time Prof Weinberg, who won the Nobel prize for
physics in 1979, has cancelled a visit to a UK university because of
Israeli boycotts.
In 2006 he called off a trip to a conference at the University of
Durham following what he saw as a boycott of Israeli academics by the
then lecturers' union Natfhe.
His decision comes a week before members of the University and College
Union are to call for an academic boycott of Israel at their inaugural
annual conference.
Academics are also expected to debate whether anti-semitism has become
acceptable on UK campuses and whether members should be balloted
before any decisions are taken on academic freedom.
The motion calling for an Israeli boycott has been laid down jointly
by the University of Brighton and the University of East London. It
condemns the "complicity of Israeli academia in the [Palestinian]
occupation, which has provoked a call from the Palestinian trade
unions for a comprehensive and consistent international boycott of all
Israeli academic institutions".
The union is being urged to agree that "passivity or neutrality is
unacceptable and criticism of Israel cannot be construed as
anti-semitic".
The motion calls on members to consider the "moral implications of
existing proposed links with Israeli academic institutions".
The issue of boycotting Israeli academics and institutions has been a
standing feature of the annual conferences of the two former
lecturers' unions - the Association of University Teachers and Natfhe
- before they merged to form the UCU last year.
An AUT motion was passed in 2005, but it caused such controversy that
it had to hold another special meeting at which it was rejected.
Natfhe has supported boycotts in the past. Last year members agreed to
continue the boycott, but the policy was dissolved when the union
merged to form the UCU only hours later.
Since Natfhe's motion was dissolved, UCU has no policy on the Israeli
academic boycott."
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31 May 2007 08:43:07 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00.html
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
Steven Weinberg, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin, had
been invited to Imperial College in July to speak in honour of a
Pakistani physicist, Abdus Salam, and to deliver a talk at a
conference on particle physics.
But today in a letter to his host at Imperial, Michael Duff, Prof
Weinberg said he was withdrawing from the trip.
In the letter, the professor said his decision was triggered by an
agreement by the National Union of Journalists at its national
conference to boycott Israeli products.
He wrote: "I know that some will say that these boycotts are directed
only against Israel, rather than generally against Jews.
"But given the history of the attacks on Israel and the oppressiveness
and aggressiveness of other countries in the Middle East and
elsewhere, boycotting Israel indicated a moral blindness for which it
is hard to find any explanation other than anti-semitism."
Gee, I didn't know he was such a bigot.
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01 Jun 2007 12:57:30 AM |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:43:07 -0700, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
<this@aint.me> wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00.html
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
Steven Weinberg, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin, had
been invited to Imperial College in July to speak in honour of a
Pakistani physicist, Abdus Salam, and to deliver a talk at a
conference on particle physics.
But today in a letter to his host at Imperial, Michael Duff, Prof
Weinberg said he was withdrawing from the trip.
In the letter, the professor said his decision was triggered by an
agreement by the National Union of Journalists at its national
conference to boycott Israeli products.
He wrote: "I know that some will say that these boycotts are directed
only against Israel, rather than generally against Jews.
"But given the history of the attacks on Israel and the oppressiveness
and aggressiveness of other countries in the Middle East and
elsewhere, boycotting Israel indicated a moral blindness for which it
is hard to find any explanation other than anti-semitism."
Gee, I didn't know he was such a bigot.
It came as a bit of a shock to me, too, as I have a great deal of
respect for his opinions.
A bit like Hitchens, eh?
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01 Jun 2007 09:47:26 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 15:27:30 +0930, in alt.atheism , Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> in <p8dv5391l1gbvvv0v3a9julu8p81qd0h0l@4ax.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:43:07 -0700, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"
<this@aint.me> wrote:
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"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:toqu5352ho2j1gpg69p2qoju0m680hk4rk@4ax.com...
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00.html
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
Steven Weinberg, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin, had
been invited to Imperial College in July to speak in honour of a
Pakistani physicist, Abdus Salam, and to deliver a talk at a
conference on particle physics.
But today in a letter to his host at Imperial, Michael Duff, Prof
Weinberg said he was withdrawing from the trip.
In the letter, the professor said his decision was triggered by an
agreement by the National Union of Journalists at its national
conference to boycott Israeli products.
He wrote: "I know that some will say that these boycotts are directed
only against Israel, rather than generally against Jews.
"But given the history of the attacks on Israel and the oppressiveness
and aggressiveness of other countries in the Middle East and
elsewhere, boycotting Israel indicated a moral blindness for which it
is hard to find any explanation other than anti-semitism."
Gee, I didn't know he was such a bigot.
It came as a bit of a shock to me, too, as I have a great deal of
respect for his opinions.
A bit like Hitchens, eh?
Maybe you can show me how he is a bigot. The group of journalists
somehow did not call for a boycott of Saudi (or of Saudi money) or of
Syria or Egypt or Iran. Do you think that those countries have a
free-er press than Israel? Do you think that they treat their people
better? What about those countries makes them acceptable and Israel
not? Please show me that you are not a bigot here and answer.
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Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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31 May 2007 08:49:22 PM |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:43:07 -0700, in alt.atheism , "Ron Baker,
Pluralitas!" <this@aint.me> in
<465f796c$0$4892$4c368faf@roadrunner.com> wrote:
"Michael Gray" <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:toqu5352ho2j1gpg69p2qoju0m680hk4rk@4ax.com...
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00.html
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
Steven Weinberg, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin, had
been invited to Imperial College in July to speak in honour of a
Pakistani physicist, Abdus Salam, and to deliver a talk at a
conference on particle physics.
But today in a letter to his host at Imperial, Michael Duff, Prof
Weinberg said he was withdrawing from the trip.
In the letter, the professor said his decision was triggered by an
agreement by the National Union of Journalists at its national
conference to boycott Israeli products.
He wrote: "I know that some will say that these boycotts are directed
only against Israel, rather than generally against Jews.
"But given the history of the attacks on Israel and the oppressiveness
and aggressiveness of other countries in the Middle East and
elsewhere, boycotting Israel indicated a moral blindness for which it
is hard to find any explanation other than anti-semitism."
Gee, I didn't know he was such a bigot.
What did he say that shows bigotry? If you were going to boycott say
10 countries based on their policies, would Israel be on the list? And
what do you think of journalists deciding to make such political
determinations?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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31 May 2007 08:57:00 PM |
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On Jun 1, 1:43 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00....
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
I wish some people would learn that Israel, the Jewish religion and
people of Jewish ethnicity are not one and the same.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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18 Jun 2007 07:22:07 PM |
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In article <1180663020.030049.250090
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Lucifer said...
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned
visit to a London university because of what he perceives
to be "a widespread anti-Israel and anti-semitic current
in British opinion".
I wish some people would learn that Israel, the Jewish
religion and people of Jewish ethnicity are not one and
the same.
Conflating the three -- in particular, pretending
that there is no difference between antisemitism
and criticism of Israel's actions -- functions as
an extraordinarily powerful political cudgel.
I remember reading an opinion piece (a blog, I
think) in Haaretz that discussed the supposed
"fine line between hatred of Jews and political
opposition to Israel." I was unpleasantly
reminded of Bush's, "Either you are with us, or
you are with the terrorists." Both are
unscrupulous attempts to connect would-be critics
to crimes and movements they do not endorse.
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Brian E. Clark
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24 Jun 2007 05:02:49 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 20:22:07 -0400, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1180663020.030049.250090
@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, Lucifer said...
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned
visit to a London university because of what he perceives
to be "a widespread anti-Israel and anti-semitic current
in British opinion".
I wish some people would learn that Israel, the Jewish
religion and people of Jewish ethnicity are not one and
the same.
Conflating the three -- in particular, pretending
that there is no difference between antisemitism
and criticism of Israel's actions -- functions as
an extraordinarily powerful political cudgel.
I remember reading an opinion piece (a blog, I
think) in Haaretz that discussed the supposed
"fine line between hatred of Jews and political
opposition to Israel." I was unpleasantly
reminded of Bush's, "Either you are with us, or
you are with the terrorists." Both are
unscrupulous attempts to connect would-be critics
to crimes and movements they do not endorse.
Theist morality in both cases.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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01 Jun 2007 12:59:32 AM |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:57:00 -0700, Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1180663020.030049.250090@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
On Jun 1, 1:43 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00....
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
I wish some people would learn that Israel, the Jewish religion and
people of Jewish ethnicity are not one and the same.
Weinberg does exaplin that elsewere, I think, but yes, as a general
obseravtion, I agree.
It is not a little unlike the oft encountered conflation of
homosexual, effeminate, buggerer, and priest.
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01 Jun 2007 09:52:24 AM |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:57:00 -0700, in alt.atheism , Lucifer
<wyrdology@hotmail.com> in
<1180663020.030049.250090@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:43 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00....
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
I wish some people would learn that Israel, the Jewish religion and
people of Jewish ethnicity are not one and the same.
I wish I saw a bit more separation from the opponents. Here is a nice
little test: you know who Ariel Sharon is. I am sure you know that he
did some terrible things in Lebanon. You might even know that he did
something terrible regarding some Palestinian refugee camps. The test
consists of three questions: what is the name of the *Christian*
leader who actually ordered the massacre? What happened to that
*Christian* leader? And, this is the key question, why does the world
remember the name of the Israeli and not the Lebanese Christian? Here
is a hint, as Ed Koch said: Christians kill Moslems and the world
blames the Jews.
Or just tell me why these British journalists have singled out Israel,
a country with a free press and free elections and freedom of
religion, for a boycott and they don't say anything about Saudi or
Egypt or Russia or China?
Read this article and explain it to me:
http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/view/5719/2/
"And so predictably the UK union of lecturers and university teachers-
the University and College Union, has voted to boycott Israeli
academics. Such a boycott was on the agenda of the union in its
previous incarnation- and now it passes on to the local branches for
their views so this is part of a process rather than a moment of
decision- but still it is significant for what it says about attitudes
to Israel amongst the bien pensant left in the UK and across Europe-
attitudes that in the view of your correspondent are harmful and ill
thought through."
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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01 Jun 2007 07:25:08 PM |
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On Jun 1, 3:52 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:57:00 -0700, in alt.atheism , Lucifer
<wyrdol...@hotmail.com> in
<1180663020.030049.250...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:43 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00....
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
I wish some people would learn that Israel, the Jewish religion and
people of Jewish ethnicity are not one and the same.
I wish I saw a bit more separation from the opponents. Here is a nice
little test: you know who Ariel Sharon is. I am sure you know that he
did some terrible things in Lebanon. You might even know that he did
something terrible regarding some Palestinian refugee camps. The test
consists of three questions: what is the name of the *Christian*
leader who actually ordered the massacre? What happened to that
*Christian* leader? And, this is the key question, why does the world
remember the name of the Israeli and not the Lebanese Christian? Here
is a hint, as Ed Koch said: Christians kill Moslems and the world
blames the Jews.
I don't blame the Jewish religion, or the Jewish race. I blame certain
elements within the state of Israel, regardless of their religion or
race.
Or just tell me why these British journalists have singled out Israel,
a country with a free press and free elections and freedom of
religion, for a boycott and they don't say anything about Saudi or
Egypt or Russia or China?
Read this article and explain it to me:
Why? I can't claim to know their motivations better than you. But
Israel, while not as bad as say Saudi Arabia, Iran or Zimbabwe, is on
the way there. Just because I dislike Israel's actions does not mean I
support other unpleasant states.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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02 Jun 2007 10:25:19 AM |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:25:08 -0700, in alt.atheism , Lucifer
<wyrdology@hotmail.com> in
<1180743908.968118.220150@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 3:52 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:57:00 -0700, in alt.atheism , Lucifer
<wyrdol...@hotmail.com> in
<1180663020.030049.250...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:43 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00....
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
I wish some people would learn that Israel, the Jewish religion and
people of Jewish ethnicity are not one and the same.
I wish I saw a bit more separation from the opponents. Here is a nice
little test: you know who Ariel Sharon is. I am sure you know that he
did some terrible things in Lebanon. You might even know that he did
something terrible regarding some Palestinian refugee camps. The test
consists of three questions: what is the name of the *Christian*
leader who actually ordered the massacre? What happened to that
*Christian* leader? And, this is the key question, why does the world
remember the name of the Israeli and not the Lebanese Christian? Here
is a hint, as Ed Koch said: Christians kill Moslems and the world
blames the Jews.
I don't blame the Jewish religion, or the Jewish race. I blame certain
elements within the state of Israel, regardless of their religion or
race.
Do you notice that you avoided answering the question. Again, why do
you know the name of the Jew there and not the Christians who ordered
the attack?
Or just tell me why these British journalists have singled out Israel,
a country with a free press and free elections and freedom of
religion, for a boycott and they don't say anything about Saudi or
Egypt or Russia or China?
Read this article and explain it to me:
Why? I can't claim to know their motivations better than you. But
Israel, while not as bad as say Saudi Arabia, Iran or Zimbabwe, is on
the way there. Just because I dislike Israel's actions does not mean I
support other unpleasant states.
On the way there? Please tell me what country, subject to constant
terrorist attacks, has acted better than Israel. Compare Israel,
subject to terrorists attacks for 60 years, to the U.S. which had just
a few. Tell me why it makes sense for the journalists to single out
Israel among all of the countries of the world for this attack.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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02 Jun 2007 08:54:50 PM |
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On Jun 2, 4:25 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:25:08 -0700, in alt.atheism , Lucifer
<wyrdol...@hotmail.com> in
<1180743908.968118.220...@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 3:52 pm, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nos...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Thu, 31 May 2007 18:57:00 -0700, in alt.atheism , Lucifer
<wyrdol...@hotmail.com> in
<1180663020.030049.250...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> wrote:
On Jun 1, 1:43 am, Michael Gray <mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
Nobel laureate cancels UK trip over Israel boycott
Debbie Andalo
Thursday May 24, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/worldwide/story/0,,2087156,00....
"An academic and Nobel laureate has cancelled a planned visit to a
London university because of what he perceives to be "a widespread
anti-Israel and anti-semitic current in British opinion".
I wish some people would learn that Israel, the Jewish religion and
people of Jewish ethnicity are not one and the same.
I wish I saw a bit more separation from the opponents. Here is a nice
little test: you know who Ariel Sharon is. I am sure you know that he
did some terrible things in Lebanon. You might even know that he did
something terrible regarding some Palestinian refugee camps. The test
consists of three questions: what is the name of the *Christian*
leader who actually ordered the massacre? What happened to that
*Christian* leader? And, this is the key question, why does the world
remember the name of the Israeli and not the Lebanese Christian? Here
is a hint, as Ed Koch said: Christians kill Moslems and the world
blames the Jews.
I don't blame the Jewish religion, or the Jewish race. I blame certain
elements within the state of Israel, regardless of their religion or
race.
Do you notice that you avoided answering the question. Again, why do
you know the name of the Jew there and not the Christians who ordered
the attack?
Or just tell me why these British journalists have singled out Israel,
a country with a free press and free elections and freedom of
religion, for a boycott and they don't say anything about Saudi or
Egypt or Russia or China?
Read this article and explain it to me:
Why? I can't claim to know their motivations better than you. But
Israel, while not as bad as say Saudi Arabia, Iran or Zimbabwe, is on
the way there. Just because I dislike Israel's actions does not mean I
support other unpleasant states.
On the way there? Please tell me what country, subject to constant
terrorist attacks, has acted better than Israel. Compare Israel,
subject to terrorists attacks for 60 years, to the U.S. which had just
a few. Tell me why it makes sense for the journalists to single out
Israel among all of the countries of the world for this attack.
I have already said I cannot know the motivations of these journalists
as well as you, but consider the fairly similar situation in Northern
Island. Now we have Gerry Adams and Ian Paisley in the same power
sharing cabinet. That might well be because we didn't use airstrikes
and tanks in civilian areas.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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