Religions > Atheism > Top Spanish Socialist Ideologue Threatens To Silence Catholic Church
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Socialist Ideologue Threatens Church: Be Quiet or We'll Silence You
Catholic News Agency ^ | 8/8/07
Posted on 08/13/2007 6:29:51 AM PDT by marshmallow
Madrid, Aug 8, 2007 / 11:01 am (CNA).- In a ferocious column published
by the Spanish Socialist daily, "El Pais," Professor Gregorio Peces-
Barba, considered the inspiration behind the current Socialist anti-
clericalism in Spain and author of the course "Education for
Citizenship," has threatened the Catholic Church, warning it to either
be silent or "suffer the consequences."
In a column entitled, "Regarding Education for Citizenship," Peces-
Barba said the massive opposition by the Church to the government-
sponsored course is illegitimate, since "faith cannot be set against
the law in a democratic society like ours."
The Church, he continued, which "embraces an anti-modern and clerical
traditional culture and opposes many legal conclusions of the
democratic State" has no basis for its opposition.
Peces-Barba accuses parents who have opposed the course of "extreme
arrogance, an attitude of impunity, and an unbearable sense of
superiority, derived from the idea that they hold to 'superior
truths,'" and he accuses the Church of years of "challenging
legitimate authority, the Constitution and the law by seeking to
impose its views as opposed to the general interest and the popular
sovereignty which resides in Parliament."
He said Catholics in Spain are un-democratic and hearken back to "the
anti-Enlightenment principles expressed in the pontifical documents of
the 19th century, from Mirari Vos in 1832 to Libertas by Leo XIII."
The Spanish bishops, he went on, have "Iran as their model, where
Islam is above the leaders and the president himself, and where the
death penalty is not only active but is applied frequently."
The bishops "cannot and should not continue down this road or pull so
tightly on the rope. They are responsible for the agitation that
prevents social peace and belligerent toward the policy of the
government and toward any progress," he stated.
"They should have more respect for dissents and avoid condemning
things all the time," Peces-Barba said. "If this new climate is not
achieved during the next legislature, the issue of the actions and
situations of the Church and of establishing new status, that puts her
in her place and respects the autonomy of civil authority, should be
taken up," he said in conclusion.
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| User: "Zadok" |
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| Title: Re: Top Spanish Socialist Ideologue Threatens To Silence Catholic Church |
16 Aug 2007 07:18:08 AM |
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"Sound of STrumpet" <> wrote in message
Socialist Ideologue Threatens Church: Be Quiet or We'll Silence You
All the government has to do, is zap their tax exemption!!
Which is what every government should do, when the churches enter politics,
or oppose Government policy!!
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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| Title: Re: Top Spanish Socialist Ideologue Threatens To Silence Catholic Church |
17 Aug 2007 08:57:05 PM |
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:18:08 +0000, Zadok wrote:
"Sound of STrumpet" <> wrote in message
Socialist Ideologue Threatens Church: Be Quiet or We'll Silence You
All the government has to do, is zap their tax exemption!!
Which is what every government should do, when the churches enter politics,
or oppose Government policy!!
Here in Argentina the President threw the Archbishop out of the country
when he began politicing against the new sex education program the
government had finally put into place.
And Argentina hasn't permitted a replacement to enter the country either.
-- Regards, Curly
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Top Spanish Socialist Ideologue Threatens To Silence Catholic Church |
17 Aug 2007 11:58:53 PM |
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"Curly Surmudgeon" <curly@offshore.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.08.18.01.57.03.154217@offshore.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:18:08 +0000, Zadok wrote:
"Sound of STrumpet" <> wrote in message
Socialist Ideologue Threatens Church: Be Quiet or We'll Silence You
All the government has to do, is zap their tax exemption!!
Which is what every government should do, when the churches enter
politics,
or oppose Government policy!!
Here in Argentina the President threw the Archbishop out of the country
when he began politicing against the new sex education program the
government had finally put into place.
And Argentina hasn't permitted a replacement to enter the country either.
-- Regards, Curly
That sounds great! But, it won't happen in the US
as long as we have a black hole in the Oval Office.
Pardon the expression, but I have my fingers
crossed that we elect a lot more progressive
Democrats in the 2008 election. Moderates just won't
do what needs to be done, progressive liberals will.
I can hear all the moderate Democrats, conservative
Democrats, Libertarians and Republicans of all kinds
screaming, but to correct the damage done by ultra
ultra ultra conservative so-called Republicans, you
need a splash of cold water to bring about the needed
change and repairs. That's the Progressive liberal
Democrats. And, they're the ones I'm voting for.
Any comments from Fred will be ignored.
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Sinclair Lewis
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| User: "* US *" |
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18 Aug 2007 05:42:15 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:58:53 -0400, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Curly Surmudgeon" <curly@offshore.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.08.18.01.57.03.154217@offshore.com...
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:18:08 +0000, Zadok wrote:
"Sound of STrumpet" <> wrote in message
Socialist Ideologue Threatens Church: Be Quiet or We'll Silence You
All the government has to do, is zap their tax exemption!!
Which is what every government should do, when the churches enter
politics, or oppose Government policy!!
Here in Argentina the President threw the Archbishop out of the country
when he began politicing against the new sex education program the
government had finally put into place.
And Argentina hasn't permitted a replacement to enter the country either.
-- Regards, Curly
That sounds great! But, it won't happen in the US
as long as we have a black hole in the Oval Office.
Pardon the expression, but I have my fingers
crossed that we elect a lot more progressive
Democrats in the 2008 election. Moderates just won't
do what needs to be done, progressive liberals will.
I can hear all the moderate Democrats, conservative
Democrats, Libertarians and Republicans of all kinds
screaming, but to correct the damage done by ultra
ultra ultra conservative so-called Republicans, you
need a splash of cold water to bring about the needed
change and repairs. That's the Progressive liberal
Democrats. And, they're the ones I'm voting for.
You'd better get rid of the electronic 'voting' machines,
or you won't be able to vote.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Top Spanish Socialist Ideologue Threatens To Silence Catholic Church |
15 Aug 2007 10:25:51 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:28:06 -0700, Sound of Trumpet
<soundoftrumpet@mailcan.com> wrote:
Socialist Ideologue Threatens Church: Be Quiet or We'll Silence You
So? Sovereign nations have not only a right, but a duty, to uphold
their own laws.
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