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User: "J Young"
Date: 23 Nov 2007 10:44:13 PM
Object: Top Ten Myths of the ACLU:
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10. The ACLU is non-partisan:
The Truth: Not only were they founded on Communism, they are about as
liberal an organization in existence. The public saw first hand in 1988 how
the ACLU was involved in politics. ?The portrayal of the ACLU as a radical
liberal lobby reached its climax in the 1988 presidential campaign when
George Bush used ACLU membership as a black mark against his opponent
Michael Dukakis. The perception had taken root that the ACLU of 1988 has
about as much to do with civil liberties as the AT&T of 1988 has to do with
telegraphs.?
?Social reform, in a liberal direction, is the sine qua non of the ACLU.
Its record, far from showing a momentary wavering from impartiality, is
replete with attempts to reform American society according to the wisdom of
liberalism. The truth of the matter is that the ACLU has always been a
highly politicized organization.?William Donahue
They may take a token case here and there for the other side to bolster
its non-partisan claims, but those cases are far outweighed by their
numerous other cases that are clearly intended to further its partisan
agenda. They even keep scorecards on Congressmen and Representatives. Their
claim of non-partisanship is what gives them their tax-exempt status, and
nothing is further from the truth. They have split their organization into
two in order to lobby their causes to the legislative branch.
9. The ACLU Cares About Your Privacy Rights:
The Truth: Despite all the rhetoric over the current NSA program, where
the ACLU opposes the U.S. listening to traitor's having conversations with
terrorists, the ACLU has no room to talk when it comes to violating privacy.
The American Civil Liberties Union is using sophisticated technology to
collect a wide variety of information about its members and donors in a
fund-raising effort that has ignited a bitter debate over its leaders?
commitment to privacy rights.
Some board members say the extensive data collection makes a mockery of
the organization?s frequent criticism of banks, corporations and government
agencies for their practice of accumulating data on people for marketing and
other purposes.
Daniel S. Lowman, vice president for analytical services at Grenzebach
Glier & Associates, the data firm hired by the A.C.L.U., said the software
the organization is using, Prospect Explorer, combs a broad range of
publicly available data to compile a file with information like an
individual?s wealth, holdings in public corporations, other assets and
philanthropic interests.
The issue has attracted the attention of the New York attorney general,
who is looking into whether the group violated its promises to protect the
privacy of its donors and members. NY Times
8. It is a patriotic thing to support the ACLU.
The Truth: If you think the ACLU represents the average American values,
then you are sadly misguided. Their absolutist views of liberty go far
beyond what most people could ever support. They support the legalization of
child porn distribution , and un-regulated prostitution. They are far from
the traditional thoughts of patriotism, constantly defending Americas
enemies, and fighting efforts of military recruiters.
7. The ACLU Defends The Bill of Rights.
The Truth: The ACLU defends the parts of the Bill of Rights that are in
line with its agenda. What about the second, ninth, and tenth amendment?
ACLU POLICY ?The ACLU believes that the individual?s right to bear arms
applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia.
Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by
individuals is not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no
constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms.?ACLU
And they certainly don't believe in States rights, constantly attempting
to override the will of the people via the judicial branch.
6. The ACLU Defends Religious Liberty
The Truth: The ACLU claims to be the great defender of liberty, but the
truth is that their definition of liberty is limited to what alligns within
their agenda. As a matter of fact, the ACLU is the foremost religious censor
in America. Despite the fact that this nation was founded upon the ideals of
religious freedom, the ACLU has succeeded in manipulating the very founding
principles through the corrupted judicial branch to repress the religious
expression of America, and continues to work daily at erasing our National
religious heritage from the pages of history.details
5. The ACLU's Slogan of "Keep America Safe and Free":
The Truth: What a joke! When 9-11 occurred what measures did the ACLU take
to ensure our safety? None, zip, nada. This organization has done nothing to
ensure our safety, in fact it has chosen to sue our government on behalf of
terrorists outside of their legal jurisdiction while they were located in
prisons on foreign soil.
They have since then demanded that the government release and make public
top secret security information regarding not only the activities of our
military, but also that of our intelligence forces. They have also initiated
one lawsuit after another against the government to stop the searching of
individuals for security purposes in mass transit situations, to stop what
they call profiling (we will never see a Protestant white middle-aged woman
as a terrorist working with an extremist Islamic organization) by race, sex
and religion, and to stop the government from detaining and questioning or
interrogating individuals who have ties or contact with known terrorist
individuals and organizations.
They say they are for a safe and free America. Yet their actions speak
very loudly the opposite of the lip service they give in this banner for a
safe America.
4. They Defend the Oppressed and Helpless:
The Truth: If you count terrorists, child molesters, and murderers as
oppressed and helpless, then you may think this one is true. The truly
defensless are the very children being harmed by these perverts the ACLU
defend. The ACLU don't believe children have any rights, unless it is to
murder their own children without their parents ever knowing.
3. The word "American" in their name truly reflects what they are:
They are constantly stepping outside the bounds of America, reaching out
to help the very enemy. They fight every effort by our government to protect
us, and sue them every chance we get. For the ACLU, the mighty checkbook
takes precendence over America's security, and many think they are rooting
for the enemy. It isn't hard to believe when theytry to get admitted
terrorists off the hook.
2. The ACLU Was Founded On Noble Intentions:
The Truth: One of the great myths of the 20th - and now 21st - century is
the belief that the American Civil Liberties Union was an organization that
had a noble beginning, but somehow strayed off course.
That myth is untrue. The ACLU set a course to destroy America ? her
freedom and her values - right from the start.
From its very beginning, the ACLU had strong socialist and communist ties.
As early as 1931, the U.S. Congress was alarmed by the ACLU?s devotion to
communism. A report by the Special House Committee to Investigate Communist
Activities stated
The American Civil Liberties Union is closely affiliated with the
communist movement in the United States, and fully 90 percent of its efforts
are on behalf of communists who have come into conflict with the law. It
claims to stand for free speech, free press and free assembly, but it is
quite apparent that the main function of the ACLU is an attempt to protect
the communists.
Roger Baldwin and Crystal Eastman founded the ACLU in 1920 along with
three other organizations dedicated to the most leftist of causes. The
histories of these two individuals belie their claims of patriotism and
respect for the Constitution.
Baldwin openly sought the utter destruction of American society. Fifteen
years after the founding of the ACLU, Baldwin wrote:
I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the
State itself ? I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the
propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is
the goal.
1. The ACLU Does Not Collect Taxpayer's Funds:
The Truth: The Civil Rights Act, intended to help poor people who could
not afford to defend their rights, grants judges the right to award attorney's
fees in civil rights cases. The ACLU have turned this on its head, often
using it to threaten small schools and local governments that can not afford
to defend themselves from the ACLU.
Take it from a former ACLU Lawyer, Reese Llyod:
Stated Lloyd: ?The ACLU has perverted, distorted and exploited the Civil
Rights Act ? to turn it into a lawyer-enrichment act.?
Lloyd says the American people are ?oblivious? to how many millions of
dollars in taxpayer funds are going to the ACLU each year.
The attorney pointed out many attorneys in cases brought by the ACLU are
volunteers, so the fees the group is awarded normally do not go to reimburse
an attorney but rather directly into the organization?s coffers.
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User: "Frank Arthur"

Title: Name one American Civil Liberty that you would surrender? 24 Nov 2007 08:10:06 AM
If you believe the Bill of Rights under the Constitution of the United
States was founded in Communism then you are a crazy loon!
Name one American Civil Liberty that you would surrender?
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:47477591$0$13140$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com...

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10. The ACLU is non-partisan:

The Truth: Not only were they founded on Communism, they are about
as liberal an organization in existence. The public saw first hand
in 1988 how the ACLU was involved in politics. ?The portrayal of the
ACLU as a radical liberal lobby reached its climax in the 1988
presidential campaign when George Bush used ACLU membership as a
black mark against his opponent Michael Dukakis. The perception had
taken root that the ACLU of 1988 has about as much to do with civil
liberties as the AT&T of 1988 has to do with telegraphs.?

?Social reform, in a liberal direction, is the sine qua non of the
ACLU. Its record, far from showing a momentary wavering from
impartiality, is replete with attempts to reform American society
according to the wisdom of liberalism. The truth of the matter is
that the ACLU has always been a highly politicized
organization.?William Donahue

They may take a token case here and there for the other side to
bolster its non-partisan claims, but those cases are far outweighed
by their numerous other cases that are clearly intended to further
its partisan agenda. They even keep scorecards on Congressmen and
Representatives. Their claim of non-partisanship is what gives them
their tax-exempt status, and nothing is further from the truth. They
have split their organization into two in order to lobby their
causes to the legislative branch.

9. The ACLU Cares About Your Privacy Rights:

The Truth: Despite all the rhetoric over the current NSA program,
where the ACLU opposes the U.S. listening to traitor's having
conversations with terrorists, the ACLU has no room to talk when it
comes to violating privacy.

The American Civil Liberties Union is using sophisticated
technology to collect a wide variety of information about its
members and donors in a fund-raising effort that has ignited a
bitter debate over its leaders? commitment to privacy rights.

Some board members say the extensive data collection makes a
mockery of the organization?s frequent criticism of banks,
corporations and government agencies for their practice of
accumulating data on people for marketing and other purposes.

Daniel S. Lowman, vice president for analytical services at
Grenzebach Glier & Associates, the data firm hired by the A.C.L.U.,
said the software the organization is using, Prospect Explorer,
combs a broad range of publicly available data to compile a file
with information like an individual?s wealth, holdings in public
corporations, other assets and philanthropic interests.

The issue has attracted the attention of the New York attorney
general, who is looking into whether the group violated its promises
to protect the privacy of its donors and members. NY Times

8. It is a patriotic thing to support the ACLU.

The Truth: If you think the ACLU represents the average American
values, then you are sadly misguided. Their absolutist views of
liberty go far beyond what most people could ever support. They
support the legalization of child porn distribution , and
un-regulated prostitution. They are far from the traditional
thoughts of patriotism, constantly defending Americas enemies, and
fighting efforts of military recruiters.

7. The ACLU Defends The Bill of Rights.

The Truth: The ACLU defends the parts of the Bill of Rights that
are in line with its agenda. What about the second, ninth, and tenth
amendment?

ACLU POLICY ?The ACLU believes that the individual?s right to bear
arms applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a
well-regulated militia. Except for lawful police and military
purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is not
constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional
impediment to the regulation of firearms.?ACLU

And they certainly don't believe in States rights, constantly
attempting to override the will of the people via the judicial
branch.

6. The ACLU Defends Religious Liberty

The Truth: The ACLU claims to be the great defender of liberty, but
the truth is that their definition of liberty is limited to what
alligns within their agenda. As a matter of fact, the ACLU is the
foremost religious censor in America. Despite the fact that this
nation was founded upon the ideals of religious freedom, the ACLU
has succeeded in manipulating the very founding principles through
the corrupted judicial branch to repress the religious expression of
America, and continues to work daily at erasing our National
religious heritage from the pages of history.details

5. The ACLU's Slogan of "Keep America Safe and Free":

The Truth: What a joke! When 9-11 occurred what measures did the
ACLU take to ensure our safety? None, zip, nada. This organization
has done nothing to ensure our safety, in fact it has chosen to sue
our government on behalf of terrorists outside of their legal
jurisdiction while they were located in prisons on foreign soil.

They have since then demanded that the government release and make
public top secret security information regarding not only the
activities of our military, but also that of our intelligence
forces. They have also initiated one lawsuit after another against
the government to stop the searching of individuals for security
purposes in mass transit situations, to stop what they call
profiling (we will never see a Protestant white middle-aged woman as
a terrorist working with an extremist Islamic organization) by race,
sex and religion, and to stop the government from detaining and
questioning or interrogating individuals who have ties or contact
with known terrorist individuals and organizations.

They say they are for a safe and free America. Yet their actions
speak very loudly the opposite of the lip service they give in this
banner for a safe America.

4. They Defend the Oppressed and Helpless:

The Truth: If you count terrorists, child molesters, and murderers
as oppressed and helpless, then you may think this one is true. The
truly defensless are the very children being harmed by these
perverts the ACLU defend. The ACLU don't believe children have any
rights, unless it is to murder their own children without their
parents ever knowing.

3. The word "American" in their name truly reflects what they are:

They are constantly stepping outside the bounds of America,
reaching out to help the very enemy. They fight every effort by our
government to protect us, and sue them every chance we get. For the
ACLU, the mighty checkbook takes precendence over America's
security, and many think they are rooting for the enemy. It isn't
hard to believe when theytry to get admitted terrorists off the
hook.

2. The ACLU Was Founded On Noble Intentions:

The Truth: One of the great myths of the 20th - and now 21st -
century is the belief that the American Civil Liberties Union was an
organization that had a noble beginning, but somehow strayed off
course.

That myth is untrue. The ACLU set a course to destroy America ? her
freedom and her values - right from the start.

From its very beginning, the ACLU had strong socialist and
communist ties. As early as 1931, the U.S. Congress was alarmed by
the ACLU?s devotion to communism. A report by the Special House
Committee to Investigate Communist Activities stated

The American Civil Liberties Union is closely affiliated with the
communist movement in the United States, and fully 90 percent of its
efforts are on behalf of communists who have come into conflict with
the law. It claims to stand for free speech, free press and free
assembly, but it is quite apparent that the main function of the
ACLU is an attempt to protect the communists.

Roger Baldwin and Crystal Eastman founded the ACLU in 1920 along
with three other organizations dedicated to the most leftist of
causes. The histories of these two individuals belie their claims of
patriotism and respect for the Constitution.

Baldwin openly sought the utter destruction of American society.
Fifteen years after the founding of the ACLU, Baldwin wrote:

I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing
of the State itself ? I seek the social ownership of property, the
abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who
produce wealth. Communism is the goal.

1. The ACLU Does Not Collect Taxpayer's Funds:

The Truth: The Civil Rights Act, intended to help poor people who
could not afford to defend their rights, grants judges the right to
award attorney's fees in civil rights cases. The ACLU have turned
this on its head, often using it to threaten small schools and local
governments that can not afford to defend themselves from the ACLU.

Take it from a former ACLU Lawyer, Reese Llyod:

Stated Lloyd: ?The ACLU has perverted, distorted and exploited the
Civil Rights Act ? to turn it into a lawyer-enrichment act.?

Lloyd says the American people are ?oblivious? to how many millions
of dollars in taxpayer funds are going to the ACLU each year.

The attorney pointed out many attorneys in cases brought by the
ACLU are volunteers, so the fees the group is awarded normally do
not go to reimburse an attorney but rather directly into the
organization?s coffers.






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User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Top Ten Myths of the ACLU: 24 Nov 2007 03:09:05 AM
J Young wrote:

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10. The ACLU is non-partisan:

When it comes to myths brother "You should know" !!!!



The Truth: Not only were they founded on Communism, they are about as
liberal an organization in existence. The public saw first hand in 1988 how
the ACLU was involved in politics. ?The portrayal of the ACLU as a radical
liberal lobby reached its climax in the 1988 presidential campaign when
George Bush used ACLU membership as a black mark against his opponent
Michael Dukakis. The perception had taken root that the ACLU of 1988 has
about as much to do with civil liberties as the AT&T of 1988 has to do with
telegraphs.?

?Social reform, in a liberal direction, is the sine qua non of the ACLU.
Its record, far from showing a momentary wavering from impartiality, is
replete with attempts to reform American society according to the wisdom of
liberalism. The truth of the matter is that the ACLU has always been a
highly politicized organization.?William Donahue

They may take a token case here and there for the other side to bolster
its non-partisan claims, but those cases are far outweighed by their
numerous other cases that are clearly intended to further its partisan
agenda. They even keep scorecards on Congressmen and Representatives. Their
claim of non-partisanship is what gives them their tax-exempt status, and
nothing is further from the truth. They have split their organization into
two in order to lobby their causes to the legislative branch.

9. The ACLU Cares About Your Privacy Rights:

The Truth: Despite all the rhetoric over the current NSA program, where
the ACLU opposes the U.S. listening to traitor's having conversations with
terrorists, the ACLU has no room to talk when it comes to violating privacy.

The American Civil Liberties Union is using sophisticated technology to
collect a wide variety of information about its members and donors in a
fund-raising effort that has ignited a bitter debate over its leaders?
commitment to privacy rights.

Some board members say the extensive data collection makes a mockery of
the organization?s frequent criticism of banks, corporations and government
agencies for their practice of accumulating data on people for marketing and
other purposes.

Daniel S. Lowman, vice president for analytical services at Grenzebach
Glier & Associates, the data firm hired by the A.C.L.U., said the software
the organization is using, Prospect Explorer, combs a broad range of
publicly available data to compile a file with information like an
individual?s wealth, holdings in public corporations, other assets and
philanthropic interests.

The issue has attracted the attention of the New York attorney general,
who is looking into whether the group violated its promises to protect the
privacy of its donors and members. NY Times

8. It is a patriotic thing to support the ACLU.

The Truth: If you think the ACLU represents the average American values,
then you are sadly misguided. Their absolutist views of liberty go far
beyond what most people could ever support. They support the legalization of
child porn distribution , and un-regulated prostitution. They are far from
the traditional thoughts of patriotism, constantly defending Americas
enemies, and fighting efforts of military recruiters.

7. The ACLU Defends The Bill of Rights.

The Truth: The ACLU defends the parts of the Bill of Rights that are in
line with its agenda. What about the second, ninth, and tenth amendment?

ACLU POLICY ?The ACLU believes that the individual?s right to bear arms
applies only to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia.
Except for lawful police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by
individuals is not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no
constitutional impediment to the regulation of firearms.?ACLU

And they certainly don't believe in States rights, constantly attempting
to override the will of the people via the judicial branch.

6. The ACLU Defends Religious Liberty

The Truth: The ACLU claims to be the great defender of liberty, but the
truth is that their definition of liberty is limited to what alligns within
their agenda. As a matter of fact, the ACLU is the foremost religious censor
in America. Despite the fact that this nation was founded upon the ideals of
religious freedom, the ACLU has succeeded in manipulating the very founding
principles through the corrupted judicial branch to repress the religious
expression of America, and continues to work daily at erasing our National
religious heritage from the pages of history.details

5. The ACLU's Slogan of "Keep America Safe and Free":

The Truth: What a joke! When 9-11 occurred what measures did the ACLU take
to ensure our safety? None, zip, nada. This organization has done nothing to
ensure our safety, in fact it has chosen to sue our government on behalf of
terrorists outside of their legal jurisdiction while they were located in
prisons on foreign soil.

They have since then demanded that the government release and make public
top secret security information regarding not only the activities of our
military, but also that of our intelligence forces. They have also initiated
one lawsuit after another against the government to stop the searching of
individuals for security purposes in mass transit situations, to stop what
they call profiling (we will never see a Protestant white middle-aged woman
as a terrorist working with an extremist Islamic organization) by race, sex
and religion, and to stop the government from detaining and questioning or
interrogating individuals who have ties or contact with known terrorist
individuals and organizations.

They say they are for a safe and free America. Yet their actions speak
very loudly the opposite of the lip service they give in this banner for a
safe America.

4. They Defend the Oppressed and Helpless:

The Truth: If you count terrorists, child molesters, and murderers as
oppressed and helpless, then you may think this one is true. The truly
defensless are the very children being harmed by these perverts the ACLU
defend. The ACLU don't believe children have any rights, unless it is to
murder their own children without their parents ever knowing.

3. The word "American" in their name truly reflects what they are:

They are constantly stepping outside the bounds of America, reaching out
to help the very enemy. They fight every effort by our government to protect
us, and sue them every chance we get. For the ACLU, the mighty checkbook
takes precendence over America's security, and many think they are rooting
for the enemy. It isn't hard to believe when theytry to get admitted
terrorists off the hook.

2. The ACLU Was Founded On Noble Intentions:

The Truth: One of the great myths of the 20th - and now 21st - century is
the belief that the American Civil Liberties Union was an organization that
had a noble beginning, but somehow strayed off course.

That myth is untrue. The ACLU set a course to destroy America ? her
freedom and her values - right from the start.

From its very beginning, the ACLU had strong socialist and communist ties.
As early as 1931, the U.S. Congress was alarmed by the ACLU?s devotion to
communism. A report by the Special House Committee to Investigate Communist
Activities stated

The American Civil Liberties Union is closely affiliated with the
communist movement in the United States, and fully 90 percent of its efforts
are on behalf of communists who have come into conflict with the law. It
claims to stand for free speech, free press and free assembly, but it is
quite apparent that the main function of the ACLU is an attempt to protect
the communists.

Roger Baldwin and Crystal Eastman founded the ACLU in 1920 along with
three other organizations dedicated to the most leftist of causes. The
histories of these two individuals belie their claims of patriotism and
respect for the Constitution.

Baldwin openly sought the utter destruction of American society. Fifteen
years after the founding of the ACLU, Baldwin wrote:

I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the
State itself ? I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the
propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is
the goal.

1. The ACLU Does Not Collect Taxpayer's Funds:

The Truth: The Civil Rights Act, intended to help poor people who could
not afford to defend their rights, grants judges the right to award attorney's
fees in civil rights cases. The ACLU have turned this on its head, often
using it to threaten small schools and local governments that can not afford
to defend themselves from the ACLU.

Take it from a former ACLU Lawyer, Reese Llyod:

Stated Lloyd: ?The ACLU has perverted, distorted and exploited the Civil
Rights Act ? to turn it into a lawyer-enrichment act.?

Lloyd says the American people are ?oblivious? to how many millions of
dollars in taxpayer funds are going to the ACLU each year.

The attorney pointed out many attorneys in cases brought by the ACLU are
volunteers, so the fees the group is awarded normally do not go to reimburse
an attorney but rather directly into the organization?s coffers.

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User: ""

Title: Re: Top Ten Myths of J Young: 24 Nov 2007 03:05:03 AM
On 24 Nov., 05:44, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:

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10. The ACLU is non-partisan:

Lies taken from a cheap propaganda site...
No surprise J Young despises the ACLU: this organization is there to
protect democracy and freedom of speech...
Why do you hate your country and the principles it is built on, J
fucking Young?
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User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: Top Ten Myths of the ACLU: 24 Nov 2007 10:14:48 AM
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:44:13 -0500, J Young wrote:
Once again, God looks forward to sending J Young to Hell and eternal
torment for willfully spreading lies:

.
10. The ACLU is non-partisan:

The Truth: Not only were they founded on Communism, they are about as
liberal an organization in existence. The public saw first hand in 1988 how
the ACLU was involved in politics. ?The portrayal of the ACLU as a radical
liberal lobby reached its climax in the 1988 presidential campaign when
George Bush used ACLU membership as a black mark against his opponent
Michael Dukakis. The perception had taken root that the ACLU of 1988 has
about as much to do with civil liberties as the AT&T of 1988 has to do with
telegraphs.?

Nobody ever said that the Religious Reich wasn't excellent as spreading
dysinformation about their opponents
..

?Social reform, in a liberal direction, is the sine qua non of the ACLU.
Its record, far from showing a momentary wavering from impartiality, is
replete with attempts to reform American society according to the wisdom of
liberalism. The truth of the matter is that the ACLU has always been a
highly politicized organization.?William Donahue

They may take a token case here and there for the other side to bolster
its non-partisan claims, but those cases are far outweighed by their
numerous other cases that are clearly intended to further its partisan
agenda. They even keep scorecards on Congressmen and Representatives. Their
claim of non-partisanship is what gives them their tax-exempt status, and
nothing is further from the truth. They have split their organization into
two in order to lobby their causes to the legislative branch.

9. The ACLU Cares About Your Privacy Rights:

The Truth: Despite all the rhetoric over the current NSA program, where
the ACLU opposes the U.S. listening to traitor's having conversations with
terrorists, the ACLU has no room to talk when it comes to violating privacy.

The American Civil Liberties Union is using sophisticated technology to
collect a wide variety of information about its members and donors in a
fund-raising effort that has ignited a bitter debate over its leaders?
commitment to privacy rights.

Some board members say the extensive data collection makes a mockery of
the organization?s frequent criticism of banks, corporations and government
agencies for their practice of accumulating data on people for marketing and
other purposes.

Daniel S. Lowman, vice president for analytical services at Grenzebach
Glier & Associates, the data firm hired by the A.C.L.U., said the software
the organization is using, Prospect Explorer, combs a broad range of
***>>> publicly available data <<<*** to compile a file with information
like an individual?s wealth, holdings in public corporations, other
assets and philanthropic interests.

So, looking at "publicly available data" is an "invasion of privacy"?
Even YOU can't be that fucking stoopid. The fact that ACLU execs are even
debating the ethics of this is evidence of how seriously they take the
individual's right to privacy.
< snip inane *****>
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Title: Re: Top Ten Myths of the ACLU: 17 Jan 2008 01:03:37 PM
On Nov 23 2007, 11:44 pm, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:

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10. TheACLUis non-partisan:

I've been aware of several cases where the ACLU has defended
Conservatives and Christians.
The ACLU is an organization of people, so personal Biases do come up!
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User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Gwyne=F0_Bennetdottir?="

Title: Re: Top Ten Myths of the ACLU: 24 Nov 2007 08:19:16 AM
On Nov 24, 5:44 am, "J Young" <youngopini...@aol.com> wrote:

The Truth:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Top Ten Myths of the ACLU: 23 Nov 2007 11:23:47 PM
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> bloodied us
up with this:

10. The ACLU is non-partisan:

The Truth: Not only were they founded on Communism,

<snip what is probably a collection of lies like the above, which I didn't
bother to read>
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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