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User: "J Young"
Date: 25 Nov 2006 10:25:04 PM
Object: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU
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10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist
goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America daily.
The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly.
My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and
violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has
brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and
unemployment.Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for
the abolishing of the State itself.I seek the social ownership of property,
the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce
wealth. Communism is the goal."
9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment.
ACLU POLICY "The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court's long-standing
interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S.
v. Miller] that the individual's right to bear arms applies only to the
preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful
police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is
not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional
impediment to the regulation of firearms."ACLU Policy #47
#8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing
everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their
free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting
in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting
them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them.
#7. The ACLU are pro-death. Not only is the ACLU Pro-abortion, it's the ACLU
's top priority. It most definitely takes a backseat to free speech for the
ACLU. As a matter of fact, the ACLU has fought against the free speech
rights of those that oppose it. If its abortion or euthanasia, as long as
its pro-death you can count on the ACLU to support it. The only exception to
the ACLU's pro-death stance, is if it is a convicted criminal; in this case
they are against death.
#6. The ACLU advocate open borders. Not only have the ACLU opposed the
Minute Men, a group who are simply exercizing their freedom of speech,
protesting and stepping up where the government is failing, but they have
helped illegals cross the border.
#5. The ACLU is anti-Christian. The list is endless on this one. Under the
guise of "seperation of Church and State", the ACLU have made a name for
theirself on being rabidly anti-Christian. This is one area where they are
most hypocritical. They oppose tax exemptions for all churches, but fight
for them for Wiccans. They are against Christianity in school, but oddly
remain silent as our children are taught to be Muslims. Whether its baby
Jesus, ten commandments, or tiny crosses on county seals, the ACLU will be
there to secularize America, and rewrite our history.
#4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every
effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches,
the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries
to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across
the board. Its kind of ironic that they don't practice the principles they
preach.
#3. The ACLU Defend the enemy. They have a long history of this one. They
defended the P.L.O. in 1985. They defended Quadafi in the 1980's. And they
continue today. They have told Gitmo detainees they have the right to remain
silent, as in not talking to interrogators. One issue that really disturbs
me is their refusal of funds from organizations such as the United Way that
were concerned the money would be used to support terrorism.
#2. The ACLU supports child porn distribution and child molesters like
NAMBLA.
As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S.
Attorney General's Commission on Pornography (of which Focus on the Family
President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child pornography was
protected by the First Amendment. While production of child porn could be
prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be.
#1. The ACLU fufills its agenda using my tax money. What more can I say on
this one?
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J Yöung
youngopinions@aol.com
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User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU 25 Nov 2006 11:45:42 PM
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

http://masl.to/?I5F21134E
10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist
goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America daily.
The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly.

....that "Jon Young" will rip off any source and lie about it if it'll get him
attention.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 5, San Antonio 3 (November 24)
NEXT GAME: Saturday, November 25 at Chicago, 7:05
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User: "ScottyFLL"

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop J Young 25 Nov 2006 10:30:09 PM
10. He's an idiot.
9. He's an idiot.
8. He's an idiot.
7. He's an idiot.
6. He's an idiot.
5. He's an idiot.
4. He's an idiot.
3. He's an idiot.
2. He's an idiot.
And the Number One reason to stop J Young:
1. He's an idiot.
.

User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU 26 Nov 2006 10:36:54 PM
And the NUMBER ONE reason to Stop the ACLU: They make it so damn hard for
pea-brained Christian fanatic theocracy advocates to usurp the Bill of
Rights!
--
MarkA
(this space accidentally filled in)
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User: "BDK"

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU 26 Nov 2006 10:54:30 AM
In article <p66dnUOx36kNivTYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...


http://masl.to/?I5F21134E





10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist
goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America daily.
The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly.

My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and
violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has
brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and
unemployment.Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for
the abolishing of the State itself.I seek the social ownership of property,
the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce
wealth. Communism is the goal."
9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment.

ACLU POLICY "The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court's long-standing
interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S.
v. Miller] that the individual's right to bear arms applies only to the
preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful
police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is
not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional
impediment to the regulation of firearms."ACLU Policy #47

#8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing
everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their
free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting
in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting
them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them.

#7. The ACLU are pro-death. Not only is the ACLU Pro-abortion, it's the ACLU
's top priority. It most definitely takes a backseat to free speech for the
ACLU. As a matter of fact, the ACLU has fought against the free speech
rights of those that oppose it. If its abortion or euthanasia, as long as
its pro-death you can count on the ACLU to support it. The only exception to
the ACLU's pro-death stance, is if it is a convicted criminal; in this case
they are against death.

#6. The ACLU advocate open borders. Not only have the ACLU opposed the
Minute Men, a group who are simply exercizing their freedom of speech,
protesting and stepping up where the government is failing, but they have
helped illegals cross the border.

#5. The ACLU is anti-Christian. The list is endless on this one. Under the
guise of "seperation of Church and State", the ACLU have made a name for
theirself on being rabidly anti-Christian. This is one area where they are
most hypocritical. They oppose tax exemptions for all churches, but fight
for them for Wiccans. They are against Christianity in school, but oddly
remain silent as our children are taught to be Muslims. Whether its baby
Jesus, ten commandments, or tiny crosses on county seals, the ACLU will be
there to secularize America, and rewrite our history.

#4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every
effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches,
the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries
to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across
the board. Its kind of ironic that they don't practice the principles they
preach.

#3. The ACLU Defend the enemy. They have a long history of this one. They
defended the P.L.O. in 1985. They defended Quadafi in the 1980's. And they
continue today. They have told Gitmo detainees they have the right to remain
silent, as in not talking to interrogators. One issue that really disturbs
me is their refusal of funds from organizations such as the United Way that
were concerned the money would be used to support terrorism.

#2. The ACLU supports child porn distribution and child molesters like
NAMBLA.

As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S.
Attorney General's Commission on Pornography (of which Focus on the Family
President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child pornography was
protected by the First Amendment. While production of child porn could be
prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be.

#1. The ACLU fufills its agenda using my tax money. What more can I say on
this one?



Thanks for the info, I'm going to join tomorrow!
BDK
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User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Top Reason To Stop The Neofascists 25 Nov 2006 11:10:41 PM
J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment.

Jon Young hates the 1st, 3rd, 4th through 10th amendments, the 13th
amendment, and the 14th amendment.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.
User: "Syd M."

Title: Re: Top Reason To Stop The Neofascists 26 Nov 2006 02:41:45 AM
Ray Fischer wrote:

J Young <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment.


Jon Young hates the 1st, 3rd, 4th through 10th amendments, the 13th
amendment, and the 14th amendment.

Your wrong there, Ray.
He hates the whole damned document.
PDW
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User: "Lucifer"

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU 25 Nov 2006 11:23:07 PM
J Young wrote:

http://masl.to/?I5F21134E





10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist
goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America dai=

ly.

The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly.

My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and
violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has
brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and
unemployment.Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, f=

or

the abolishing of the State itself.I seek the social ownership of propert=

y,

the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produ=

ce

wealth. Communism is the goal."
9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment.

ACLU POLICY "The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court's long-standing
interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.=

S=2E

v. Miller] that the individual's right to bear arms applies only to the
preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful
police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is
not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional
impediment to the regulation of firearms."ACLU Policy #47

#8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing
everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their
free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fight=

ing

in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military support=

ing

them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them.

#7. The ACLU are pro-death. Not only is the ACLU Pro-abortion, it's the A=

CLU

's top priority. It most definitely takes a backseat to free speech for t=

he

ACLU. As a matter of fact, the ACLU has fought against the free speech
rights of those that oppose it. If its abortion or euthanasia, as long as
its pro-death you can count on the ACLU to support it. The only exception=

to

the ACLU's pro-death stance, is if it is a convicted criminal; in this ca=

se

they are against death.

#6. The ACLU advocate open borders. Not only have the ACLU opposed the
Minute Men, a group who are simply exercizing their freedom of speech,
protesting and stepping up where the government is failing, but they have
helped illegals cross the border.

#5. The ACLU is anti-Christian. The list is endless on this one. Under the
guise of "seperation of Church and State", the ACLU have made a name for
theirself on being rabidly anti-Christian. This is one area where they are
most hypocritical. They oppose tax exemptions for all churches, but fight
for them for Wiccans. They are against Christianity in school, but oddly
remain silent as our children are taught to be Muslims. Whether its baby
Jesus, ten commandments, or tiny crosses on county seals, the ACLU will be
there to secularize America, and rewrite our history.

#4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every
effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag search=

es,

the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries
to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across
the board. Its kind of ironic that they don't practice the principles they
preach.

#3. The ACLU Defend the enemy. They have a long history of this one. They
defended the P.L.O. in 1985. They defended Quadafi in the 1980's. And they
continue today. They have told Gitmo detainees they have the right to rem=

ain

silent, as in not talking to interrogators. One issue that really disturbs
me is their refusal of funds from organizations such as the United Way th=

at

were concerned the money would be used to support terrorism.

#2. The ACLU supports child porn distribution and child molesters like
NAMBLA.

As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S.
Attorney General's Commission on Pornography (of which Focus on the Family
President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child pornography was
protected by the First Amendment. While production of child porn could be
prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be.

#1. The ACLU fufills its agenda using my tax money. What more can I say on
this one?

















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----------

J Y=F6ung
youngopinions@aol.com

The ACLU simply defends American law and constitution. Why do the
Americans that claim to be most patriotic turn out to hate America the
most?
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU 26 Nov 2006 12:12:17 PM
Lucifer wrote:

J Young wrote:

http://masl.to/?I5F21134E

snip crap

The ACLU simply defends American law and constitution. Why do the
Americans that claim to be most patriotic turn out to hate America the
most?

Because the stupid bastards have no fucking clue as to what America was
supposed to be.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and
carrying a cross."
-Sinclair Lewis
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
.


User: "Bill Baker"

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU 25 Nov 2006 11:20:10 PM
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:04 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message news:p66dnUOx36kNivTYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com...

http://masl.to/?I5F21134E





10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist
goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America daily.
The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly.

Ad hominem fallacy. Entire argument rendered invalid.

My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and
violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has
brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and
unemployment.Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for
the abolishing of the State itself.I seek the social ownership of property,
the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce
wealth. Communism is the goal."
9. The ACLU does not believe in the Second Amendment.

The paragraph below seems to make this argument a lie.

ACLU POLICY "The ACLU agrees with the Supreme Court's long-standing
interpretation of the Second Amendment [as set forth in the 1939 case, U.S.
v. Miller] that the individual's right to bear arms applies only to the
preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia. Except for lawful
police and military purposes, the possession of weapons by individuals is
not constitutionally protected. Therefore, there is no constitutional
impediment to the regulation of firearms."ACLU Policy #47

#8. Their outright hatred of the Boyscouts. They are currently doing
everything in their power to hurt this organization. They attacked their
free speech right to exclude gays, and are threatening schools, and fighting
in court to get their charters shut down. The oppose the military supporting
them, and will sue the pants off any school that attempts to charter them.

Prejudicial language coupled with half-truths and outright lies. Argument
once again rendered invalid.

#7. The ACLU are pro-death. Not only is the ACLU Pro-abortion, it's the ACLU
's top priority. It most definitely takes a backseat to free speech for the
ACLU. As a matter of fact, the ACLU has fought against the free speech
rights of those that oppose it. If its abortion or euthanasia, as long as
its pro-death you can count on the ACLU to support it. The only exception to
the ACLU's pro-death stance, is if it is a convicted criminal; in this case
they are against death.

Once again, prejudicial language is used to make good ideas sound bad.

#6. The ACLU advocate open borders. Not only have the ACLU opposed the
Minute Men, a group who are simply exercizing their freedom of speech,
protesting and stepping up where the government is failing, but they have
helped illegals cross the border.

Note the lack of proof for the accusation in the last sentence. The rest
of the argument is based solely on half-truths.

#5. The ACLU is anti-Christian. The list is endless on this one. Under the
guise of "seperation of Church and State", the ACLU have made a name for
theirself on being rabidly anti-Christian. This is one area where they are
most hypocritical. They oppose tax exemptions for all churches, but fight
for them for Wiccans. They are against Christianity in school, but oddly
remain silent as our children are taught to be Muslims. Whether its baby
Jesus, ten commandments, or tiny crosses on county seals, the ACLU will be
there to secularize America, and rewrite our history.

More half-truths and outright lies. Argument is rendered invalid.

#4. The ACLU Opposes National Security. The ACLU have opposed almost every
effort in the arena of national security. From the bird flu to bag searches,
the ACLU have been against it. No matter what kind of search someone tries
to do to protect people, the ACLU have proved they are against them across
the board. Its kind of ironic that they don't practice the principles they
preach.

Still more half-truths. This argument doesn't mention that many of these
searches are at least constitutionally questionable, if not outright
unconstitutional.

#3. The ACLU Defend the enemy. They have a long history of this one. They
defended the P.L.O. in 1985. They defended Quadafi in the 1980's. And they
continue today. They have told Gitmo detainees they have the right to remain
silent, as in not talking to interrogators. One issue that really disturbs
me is their refusal of funds from organizations such as the United Way that
were concerned the money would be used to support terrorism.

Notice that this argument doesn't say what these people were defended for.
It's like the truth would hurt their cause.

#2. The ACLU supports child porn distribution and child molesters like
NAMBLA.

As legislative counsel for the ACLU in 1985, Barry Lynn told the U.S.
Attorney General's Commission on Pornography (of which Focus on the Family
President Dr. James C. Dobson was a member) that child pornography was
protected by the First Amendment. While production of child porn could be
prevented by law, he argued, its distribution could not be.

When you don't have any child porn produced, it makes it kind of hard to
distribute it, doesn't it?

#1. The ACLU fufills its agenda using my tax money. What more can I say on
this one?

What indeed? Perhaps the fact that if they are supported by the US
government, then perhaps they are not quite as anti-American as you make
them out to sound. And if that's the case, that would make you little
more than a raving loon.
Besides, shouldn't you be more upset that the botched war in Iraq is using
more tax money than we'll ever be able to repay in our lifetimes?
--
Funny Lurlean quote #62:
"The DaVinci Code was written by the devil!" --Lurlean reveals secrets
from her summer job at "Prentice Hell."
.
User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU 26 Nov 2006 12:44:07 AM
"Bill Baker" <wbaker@postini.spamcon.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:04 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote in message news:p66dnUOx36kNivTYnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d@giganews.com...

http://masl.to/?I5F21134E





10. The ACLU was founded by Communist, with communist ideals, communist
goals, and they continue to impose a Communist like agenda on America
daily.
The founder of the ACLU, Roger Baldwin stated clearly.


Ad hominem fallacy. Entire argument rendered invalid.

Feed that troll.
.


User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Top Ten Reasons To Stop The ACLU 26 Nov 2006 11:54:02 AM
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:25:04 -0500, J Young wrote:

10. The ACLU defends the Bill of Rights which I, J Young, despise with
all my being.

9. The ACLU defends the Bill of Rights which I, J Young, despise with
all my being.

8. The ACLU defends the Bill of Rights which I, J Young, despise with
all my being.

<snip>

1. The ACLU defends the Bill of Rights which I, J Young, despise with
all my being.

--
Mark K. Bilbo
------------------------------------------------------------
"The problem with defending the purity of the English language
is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse *****. We don't
just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other
languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their
pockets for new vocabulary." -James D. Nicoll
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