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"khartoum" |
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22 Dec 2003 03:42:57 PM |
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Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
I found this on another newsgroup and thought it was funny. The original author was not attributed.
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Top Ten Signs You're A Christian
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other
religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of your one
god.
09 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people
evolved from lesser life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical
claim that we were created from dirt.
08 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a
Trinity god.
07 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to
Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah
slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination
of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" -including women, children, and trees!
06 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about
gods sleeping with women, but you have! no problem believing that the Holy
Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed,
came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
05 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loop-holes in the
scientifically established age of the Earth(4.55 billion years), but you
find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by pre-historic tribesmen
sitting in their tents and guessing that the Earth is a couple of
generations old.
04 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the
exception of those who share your beliefs --though excluding those in all
rival sects -- will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet
you consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving".
03 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have
failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor
speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to prove
Christianity.
02 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered
prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think
that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
01 - You actually know a lot less than many Atheists and Agnostics do about
the Bible, Christianity, and church history -- but still call yourself a
Christian.
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The last one reminds me of the other day when I mentioned Jeshua to a Christian friend of mine and he did not know who it was.
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Khartoum aa#2110
When two men of science disagree, they do not invoke the secular arm;
they wait for further evidence to decide the issue, because, as men
of science,they know that neither is infallible. But when two
theologians differ,since there is no criteria to which either can
appeal, there is nothing for it but mutual hatred and an open or
covert appeal to force.
Bertrand Russell
Can Religion Cure our Troubles 1954
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| User: "duke" |
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27 Dec 2003 01:48:24 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:58:22 GMT, khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote:
Duke, you are a fucking moron. How many xtians have an aa number? I
was a xtian for 18 years. That included 12 years of Catholic school.
It was a Catholic priest who instructed me in high school that led to my
agnosticism/* */and eventually atheism.
So you went from good to bad to worst. There's still a chance for you to change
your mind. And, you will one day. When you begin to realize there's more to
your existance than as a mere accident of nature.
Thanks for feeding your evilutionist stereotype. Please provide
objective empirical evidence for your god.
*****
Evidence of God - duke32, circa 2002AD
1. The belief that a supreme being is the creator of the universe is
based on a profession by those that believe that is equal to, but no
less than, any profession that our universe exists for any other
alternative reason that can be imagined.
One could hypothesize an astronomical event such as a prior universe
that collapsed on itself and has now exploded outward to form our new
present universe. If this did happen, it would have happened again
and again for the same reason as the latest occurrence, thereby
suggesting that the universe always was, is, and always will be. Yet
another equal suggestion is that the universe was birthed out of
another universe, or another dimension.
The human mind cannot cope with the idea that all things lack a
beginning, and clearly neither matter nor energy on their own, the
basic building blocks of the universe, could either exist in and of
itself, or in and of its own intelligence.
The profession by believers is that our universe is a creation of
almighty God who is truly acknowledged as "always was, is, and always
will be". No alternative is available.
2. Medical science itself professes the human body to reflect a
"design with purpose". It consists of a central computer (brain)
supported by a fluid transfer system (blood) forced along by a pump
(heart), an energy conversion system (stomach and intestines), a waste
disposal system, an oxygen transfer system (lungs) that is required to
transfer necessary oxygen to the brain and to the body parts,
maintenance organs (spleen, gall bladder, etc), and a body salinity
(same as ocean water) exactly correct as necessary for transfer of
minute electrical signals to/from the brain to operate and control the
body.
3. The conception equation contained in animal forms is divided 50%
in the male and 50% in the female. We only mix the chemicals. Of special
interest is the fact that the male and female organs are of complimentary shape
in mammals. These two facts are especially conducive to support planned
design.
4. ARC101: In the overall scheme of advancement in relationships of
life forms as we move from the least to the greatest:
The rock (inanimate object) does not respond to, or relate to, the
plant's existence because it fully lacks the faculties to do so. Nor
does the plant acknowledge, in any fashion, it's awareness of the
inanimate object.
One level upward, the plant (simple life) does not respond to, or
relate to, the cow's existence because it lacks the faculties to do
so. However, the cow does have a limited reverse recognition of the
plant because it is a noted food source for the cow, but the plant
does not relate in any way to the cow, what it is, or why it is.
One level up, the cow (complex life form) does not respond to, or
relate to, the human's existence, other than in very rudimentary ways,
because it lacks the faculties to do so. Man, on the other hand, has
a full range of knowledge and a clear relationship directed backward
to the cow including leading the cow by the nose, but the cow has
minimal upward reaction to the man other than the cow sees the man,
but has no idea what the man is or what the man does or why the man is
there.
Notice how one level can relate backwards to a lower level, but in the
opposite higher level only in a very rudimentary fashion. Yet each
higher level not only exists but exists "basically unknown" to the
level below it.
What, then, regarding the existence of a level higher than the human?
As is seen at each level, the inability, or limited ability, to relate
to the level above it does not in any way negate its very existence.
We knowlingly lack sufficient faculties to respond to, or relate to, a
higher level above man. Does this negate the existence of such a
level? Why should we be able to relate upwards when lower life can't.
By all logic, there should be at least one level above human.
As humans (mankind), we possess tremendous advanced faculties over
those of the cow - intelligence, reason, logic, love, empathy,
sympathy, knowing we suffer and why, etc. And we can use these
faculties to study, learn, reason, dream, and subjectively conclude
that, logically speaking, some level should exist higher than man.
As before, we too are limited in our ability to relate to that higher
level, but in no way does this negate its existence.
If there is no greater known than man, then man would be the pinnacle
of life, the top - evidenced by the mess we make of the world - war,
disease, pestilence, hatred, man's inhumanity to man, etc.
Man as the ultimate, the pinnacle, the top, is illogical.
How many levels are there above us? We don't know - we can't even
prove so much as one level. The top level, by all logic, must be
*perfection*. Is it reasonable to think the move from man to the top
is made in one step? That is not very imaginative.
So let's think in term of two steps - one greater than man and one
lesser than a supreme being. Strangely enough, the "angel" fits the
position exactly, more than man but less than perfection.
Can we prove it - of course not. But we can use our advanced
capacities to dream, to aspire, to reach out for that possible next
step, from which we can profess to truly be the creation of one more
perfect than us.
*****
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| User: "Solomon Kozanski" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
07 Jan 2004 07:20:17 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rcoruvogsuo1ggsbit6krheqe7rml11jjd@4ax.com...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:58:22 GMT, khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com>
wrote:
Duke, you are a fucking moron. How many xtians have an aa number? I
was a xtian for 18 years. That included 12 years of Catholic school.
It was a Catholic priest who instructed me in high school that led to
my
agnosticism/* */and eventually atheism.
So you went from good to bad to worst. There's still a chance for you
to change
your mind. And, you will one day. When you begin to realize there's
more to
your existance than as a mere accident of nature.
Thanks for feeding your evilutionist stereotype. Please provide
objective empirical evidence for your god.
*****
Evidence of God - duke32, circa 2002AD
1. The belief that a supreme being is the creator of the universe is
based on a profession by those that believe that is equal to, but no
less than, any profession that our universe exists for any other
alternative reason that can be imagined.
new scientific evidence indicates that the universe may not have been
"created" at all, but may have always existed. if said theory is proven to
have merit, the hypothesis of an "almighty creator" would be proven
illogical. now of course, mathematics has proven there is little need for a
god to exist for this universe to exist.
One could hypothesize an astronomical event such as a prior universe
that collapsed on itself and has now exploded outward to form our new
present universe. If this did happen, it would have happened again
and again for the same reason as the latest occurrence, thereby
suggesting that the universe always was, is, and always will be. Yet
another equal suggestion is that the universe was birthed out of
another universe, or another dimension.
so who was the supreme being that created that universe? perhaps he is
higher and mightier than your god! of course, such hypotheses about
extrauniversal events are, at this point in our technological development,
utterly untestable, and are quietly shelved away between 'mental illness'
and 'methylphenidate' in the category conveniently labelled 'metaphysics'.
The human mind cannot cope with the idea that all things lack a
beginning, and clearly neither matter nor energy on their own, the
basic building blocks of the universe, could either exist in and of
itself, or in and of its own intelligence.
my rather human mind has no problem coping with such concepts. dont project
your own intellectual limitations onto others when you believe in god and
the tooth fairy!
The profession by believers is that our universe is a creation of
almighty God who is truly acknowledged as "always was, is, and always
will be". No alternative is available.
i cannot cope with the idea that the universe had a beginning, but the old
bearded man in the throne who created it did not. but of course, as we all
know, mary is the mother of god, who just so happened to be created by the
aforementioned god. sounds to me like ole yahweh's been messin' around with
doc brown's delorean!
there are, however, plenty of alternatives to "god" out there. one is,
strangely, known as "the big bang". this theorizes that the universe was
created, even more strangely, out of a big explosion. with a name like "the
big bang", i was completely certain that jenna jameson was involved. then
there is the hypothesis that the universe came about because of jenna
jameson's involvement.
2. Medical science itself professes the human body to reflect a
"design with purpose". It consists of a central computer (brain)
supported by a fluid transfer system (blood) forced along by a pump
(heart), an energy conversion system (stomach and intestines), a waste
disposal system, an oxygen transfer system (lungs) that is required to
transfer necessary oxygen to the brain and to the body parts,
maintenance organs (spleen, gall bladder, etc), and a body salinity
(same as ocean water) exactly correct as necessary for transfer of
minute electrical signals to/from the brain to operate and control the
body.
if humans did not evolve to have organs with "purpose", i seriously doubt
humans would exist. what did you expect after 3 billion years of evolution,
humans made entirely of appendices and little toes?!
3. The conception equation contained in animal forms is divided 50%
in the male and 50% in the female. We only mix the chemicals. Of special
interest is the fact that the male and female organs are of complimentary
shape
in mammals. These two facts are especially conducive to support planned
design.
of the 23rd pair of chromosomes in humans, those donated by the male parent
which are found to determine the gender of offspring, we find that the X
(female) and the Y (male) chromosomes are present in a 1:1 ratio.
now of course, if you're wondering why people have compatible genitals,
perhaps it is due to the fact that past female organisms whose females did
not have receptacles for sperm probably did not reproduce.
4. ARC101: In the overall scheme of advancement in relationships of
life forms as we move from the least to the greatest:
The rock (inanimate object) does not respond to, or relate to, the
plant's existence because it fully lacks the faculties to do so. Nor
does the plant acknowledge, in any fashion, it's awareness of the
inanimate object.
how do you know? perhaps the rock exists on a higher level. have you seen
galaxyquest?
One level upward, the plant (simple life) does not respond to, or
relate to, the cow's existence because it lacks the faculties to do
so. However, the cow does have a limited reverse recognition of the
plant because it is a noted food source for the cow, but the plant
does not relate in any way to the cow, what it is, or why it is.
and i have serious doubts as to whether there is any "sentience" involved in
such relations
One level up, the cow (complex life form) does not respond to, or
relate to, the human's existence, other than in very rudimentary ways,
because it lacks the faculties to do so. Man, on the other hand, has
a full range of knowledge and a clear relationship directed backward
to the cow including leading the cow by the nose, but the cow has
minimal upward reaction to the man other than the cow sees the man,
but has no idea what the man is or what the man does or why the man is
there.
you'd be surprised how many people have no more faculty to relate to others
than to be lead by the nose. ChriStains come to mind.
Notice how one level can relate backwards to a lower level, but in the
opposite higher level only in a very rudimentary fashion. Yet each
higher level not only exists but exists "basically unknown" to the
level below it.
notice how all of human endeavour revolves around the exact same rudimentary
purpose; eat, screw, *****, sleep. the very basics of survival. it comes as
no surprise that humans seek seemingly infinite amounts of wisdom so they
can build a civilization of extremely advanced technology so that the rigors
of life are eliminated and humans can euphorically concentrate on those
tasks for which nature had intended humans to engage in: eating, screwing,
shitting and sleeping.
What, then, regarding the existence of a level higher than the human?
As is seen at each level, the inability, or limited ability, to relate
to the level above it does not in any way negate its very existence.
the fact remains, there is likely no level above self awareness and
cognition. one could argue there are higher levels of awareness and
cognition, but this in no way compares to sentient humans vs. stupid
mechanistic cows
We knowlingly lack sufficient faculties to respond to, or relate to, a
higher level above man. Does this negate the existence of such a
level? Why should we be able to relate upwards when lower life can't.
By all logic, there should be at least one level above human.
you refuse to negate the possibility of higher forms of existence, then
immediately deny our ability to communicate with a lifeform about which you
know nothing. then you take an even bigger leap of faith off the deep end
and declare that LOGIC, of all things, dictates AT LEAST one level above
human!
now to take a different slant on your 'humans vs. cows' analogy, why would
said 'god' creature see us as anything more than a source of "milk" and
"meat"? who's to say said 'god' would give two shits about some greasy
monkeys on a mudball orbiting a measly star in the orion arm of some
inconsequential galaxy in the nether regions of the universe? or, by
extension, a bunch of foul smelling oafish cows?
As humans (mankind), we possess tremendous advanced faculties over
those of the cow - intelligence, reason, logic, love, empathy,
sympathy, knowing we suffer and why, etc. And we can use these
faculties to study, learn, reason, dream, and subjectively conclude
that, logically speaking, some level should exist higher than man.
that is because in the cow's long adaptation to his environment, he has
never needed mental faculties in excess of those that assist him in
remembering where he ***** so he doesnt step in it... of course, it doesnt
really matter if he steps in his own *****, does it?
As before, we too are limited in our ability to relate to that higher
level, but in no way does this negate its existence.
"...too limited in our ability to relate..."?! earlier you said we had ZERO
ability to relate!
If there is no greater known than man, then man would be the pinnacle
of life, the top - evidenced by the mess we make of the world - war,
disease, pestilence, hatred, man's inhumanity to man, etc.
Man as the ultimate, the pinnacle, the top, is illogical.
imperfect and chaotic man as the pinnacle of an imperfect and chaotic
universe? ordo ab chaos is a nice idea, but not when you live in a universe
that exhibits the property of entropy. "man as the center of the universe,
with a purpose" is illogical.
How many levels are there above us? We don't know - we can't even
prove so much as one level. The top level, by all logic, must be
*perfection*. Is it reasonable to think the move from man to the top
is made in one step? That is not very imaginative.
perfection is an asymptote. besides, you said there's at least one level
above us, by all logic!
So let's think in term of two steps - one greater than man and one
lesser than a supreme being. Strangely enough, the "angel" fits the
position exactly, more than man but less than perfection.
greater than man, but less than god; strangely, albert einstein, walter
hudson, bill clinton (who has a godlike ability to get himself out of
anything), donald trump and brett favre come to mind.
Can we prove it - of course not. But we can use our advanced
capacities to dream, to aspire, to reach out for that possible next
step, from which we can profess to truly be the creation of one more
perfect than us.
*****
"god" is absolute conjecture, of whom you have no more proof than the mere
fact that you can imagine him to exist (the imagination is truly limitless!)
to spend your life dwelling on the human-written writings of a bunch of
ancient agrarian control freaks with an affinity for gold, who believed god
decreed that you should have no physical contact with a menstruating woman
(ain't that the truth!), is analogous to thinking you can make an honest
fortune in amway. just because everybody believes it doesnt make it true.
OJ's jury is proof of that!
but if logic and reason doesnt reach you, i'll use a persuasion more on par
with your culture. there's no god because i said so! believe it or else!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Jan 2004 09:17:14 PM |
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On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 20:20:17 -0500, "Solomon Kozanski"
<noneofyourdamnbusiness@localnet.com> posted to alt.atheism:
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:rcoruvogsuo1ggsbit6krheqe7rml11jjd@4ax.com...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:58:22 GMT, khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com>
wrote:
Thanks for feeding your evilutionist stereotype. Please provide
objective empirical evidence for your god.
*****
Evidence of God - duke32, circa 2002AD
1. The belief that a supreme being is the creator of the universe is
based on a profession by those that believe that is equal to, but no
less than, any profession that our universe exists for any other
alternative reason that can be imagined.
new scientific evidence indicates that the universe may not have been
"created" at all, but may have always existed. if said theory is proven to
have merit, the hypothesis of an "almighty creator" would be proven
illogical. now of course, mathematics has proven there is little need for a
god to exist for this universe to exist.
You could have made it much shorter and much sweeter - not one word of
Earl's "evidence" is objective, nor is it evidence of any god, let
alone the Christian one. ALL it amounts to is "I can't see how it
could have happened unless my god did it".
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"The doctrine that the earth is neither the center of the universe nor immovable, but
moves even with a daily rotation, is absurd, and both philosophically and theologically
false, and at the least an error of faith."
- Catholic Church's decision against Galileo Galilei
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "BDK" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
28 Dec 2003 11:48:38 AM |
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In article <rcoruvogsuo1ggsbit6krheqe7rml11jjd@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:58:22 GMT, khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote:
Duke, you are a fucking moron. How many xtians have an aa number? I
was a xtian for 18 years. That included 12 years of Catholic school.
It was a Catholic priest who instructed me in high school that led to my
agnosticism/* */and eventually atheism.
So you went from good to bad to worst. There's still a chance for you to change
your mind. And, you will one day. When you begin to realize there's more to
your existance than as a mere accident of nature.
Thanks for feeding your evilutionist stereotype. Please provide
objective empirical evidence for your god.
*****
Evidence of God - duke32, circa 2002AD
1. The belief that a supreme being is the creator of the universe is
based on a profession by those that believe that is equal to, but no
less than, any profession that our universe exists for any other
alternative reason that can be imagined.
Sure and dreams sometimes do come true.
One could hypothesize an astronomical event such as a prior universe
that collapsed on itself and has now exploded outward to form our new
present universe. If this did happen, it would have happened again
and again for the same reason as the latest occurrence, thereby
suggesting that the universe always was, is, and always will be. Yet
another equal suggestion is that the universe was birthed out of
another universe, or another dimension.
The human mind cannot cope with the idea that all things lack a
beginning, and clearly neither matter nor energy on their own, the
basic building blocks of the universe, could either exist in and of
itself, or in and of its own intelligence.
You still spouting this nonsense??
The profession by believers is that our universe is a creation of
almighty God who is truly acknowledged as "always was, is, and always
will be". No alternative is available.
2. Medical science itself professes the human body to reflect a
"design with purpose". It consists of a central computer (brain)
supported by a fluid transfer system (blood) forced along by a pump
(heart), an energy conversion system (stomach and intestines), a waste
disposal system, an oxygen transfer system (lungs) that is required to
transfer necessary oxygen to the brain and to the body parts,
maintenance organs (spleen, gall bladder, etc), and a body salinity
(same as ocean water) exactly correct as necessary for transfer of
minute electrical signals to/from the brain to operate and control the
body.
Hmm, sounds like almost any animal above a bacteria or something
similar.
3. The conception equation contained in animal forms is divided 50%
in the male and 50% in the female. We only mix the chemicals. Of special
interest is the fact that the male and female organs are of complimentary shape
in mammals. These two facts are especially conducive to support planned
design.
My dog's "organs" were very complimentary, according to the results of a
one time hookup with the neighbor's dog. Eight little pups resulted.
4. ARC101: In the overall scheme of advancement in relationships of
life forms as we move from the least to the greatest:
The rock (inanimate object) does not respond to, or relate to, the
plant's existence because it fully lacks the faculties to do so. Nor
does the plant acknowledge, in any fashion, it's awareness of the
inanimate object.
Yawn, isn't there something new you can spew??
One level upward, the plant (simple life) does not respond to, or
relate to, the cow's existence because it lacks the faculties to do
so. However, the cow does have a limited reverse recognition of the
plant because it is a noted food source for the cow, but the plant
does not relate in any way to the cow, what it is, or why it is.
One level up, the cow (complex life form) does not respond to, or
relate to, the human's existence, other than in very rudimentary ways,
because it lacks the faculties to do so. Man, on the other hand, has
a full range of knowledge and a clear relationship directed backward
to the cow including leading the cow by the nose, but the cow has
minimal upward reaction to the man other than the cow sees the man,
but has no idea what the man is or what the man does or why the man is
there.
Notice how one level can relate backwards to a lower level, but in the
opposite higher level only in a very rudimentary fashion. Yet each
higher level not only exists but exists "basically unknown" to the
level below it.
What, then, regarding the existence of a level higher than the human?
As is seen at each level, the inability, or limited ability, to relate
to the level above it does not in any way negate its very existence.
We knowlingly lack sufficient faculties to respond to, or relate to, a
higher level above man. Does this negate the existence of such a
level? Why should we be able to relate upwards when lower life can't.
By all logic, there should be at least one level above human.
As humans (mankind), we possess tremendous advanced faculties over
those of the cow - intelligence, reason, logic, love, empathy,
sympathy, knowing we suffer and why, etc. And we can use these
faculties to study, learn, reason, dream, and subjectively conclude
that, logically speaking, some level should exist higher than man.
As before, we too are limited in our ability to relate to that higher
level, but in no way does this negate its existence.
If there is no greater known than man, then man would be the pinnacle
of life, the top - evidenced by the mess we make of the world - war,
disease, pestilence, hatred, man's inhumanity to man, etc.
Man as the ultimate, the pinnacle, the top, is illogical.
How many levels are there above us? We don't know - we can't even
prove so much as one level. The top level, by all logic, must be
*perfection*. Is it reasonable to think the move from man to the top
is made in one step? That is not very imaginative.
So let's think in term of two steps - one greater than man and one
lesser than a supreme being. Strangely enough, the "angel" fits the
position exactly, more than man but less than perfection.
Can we prove it - of course not. But we can use our advanced
capacities to dream, to aspire, to reach out for that possible next
step, from which we can profess to truly be the creation of one more
perfect than us.
*****
Um, I thought you were going to post proof about god existing. So what
happened??
BDK
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| User: "khartoum" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
27 Dec 2003 05:28:46 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:58:22 GMT, khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote:
Duke, you are a fucking moron. How many xtians have an aa number? I
was a xtian for 18 years. That included 12 years of Catholic school.
It was a Catholic priest who instructed me in high school that led to my
agnosticism/* */and eventually atheism.
So you went from good to bad to worst. There's still a chance for you to change
your mind. And, you will one day. When you begin to realize there's more to
your existance than as a mere accident of nature.
Thanks for feeding your evilutionist stereotype. Please provide
objective empirical evidence for your god.
*****
Evidence of God - duke32, circa 2002AD
1. The belief that a supreme being is the creator of the universe is
based on a profession by those that believe that is equal to, but no
less than, any profession that our universe exists for any other
alternative reason that can be imagined.
It is a *belief* without evidence.
One could hypothesize an astronomical event such as a prior universe
that collapsed on itself and has now exploded outward to form our new
present universe. If this did happen, it would have happened again
and again for the same reason as the latest occurrence, thereby
suggesting that the universe always was, is, and always will be. Yet
another equal suggestion is that the universe was birthed out of
another universe, or another dimension.
You give no evidence in the above paragraph for your god. I could
hypothesize that the universe was created by blue gremlins last
Thursday. Unless I have evidence to back up that hypothesis, it is
worthless.
The human mind cannot cope with the idea that all things lack a
beginning, and clearly neither matter nor energy on their own, the
basic building blocks of the universe, could either exist in and of
itself, or in and of its own intelligence.
Please present a leading scientist that would agree that matter or
energy exists in and of its own intelligence. You are arguing against a
straw man again.
The profession by believers is that our universe is a creation of
almighty God who is truly acknowledged as "always was, is, and always
will be". No alternative is available.
So your whole argument above is that the universe had to be created but
your god was not created. Thanks for the lesson in special pleading.
2. Medical science itself professes the human body to reflect a
"design with purpose". It consists of a central computer (brain)
supported by a fluid transfer system (blood) forced along by a pump
(heart), an energy conversion system (stomach and intestines), a waste
disposal system, an oxygen transfer system (lungs) that is required to
transfer necessary oxygen to the brain and to the body parts,
maintenance organs (spleen, gall bladder, etc), and a body salinity
(same as ocean water) exactly correct as necessary for transfer of
minute electrical signals to/from the brain to operate and control the
body.
Please list these Doctors that profess that the human body reflects
"design with purpose" and explain how they determined through experiment
that human bodies are designed.
3. The conception equation contained in animal forms is divided 50%
in the male and 50% in the female. We only mix the chemicals. Of special
interest is the fact that the male and female organs are of complimentary shape
in mammals. These two facts are especially conducive to support planned
design.
Yes, the penis does fit rather nicely in the vagina. How is this
evidence for your god.
4. ARC101: In the overall scheme of advancement in relationships of
life forms as we move from the least to the greatest:
The rock (inanimate object) does not respond to, or relate to, the
plant's existence because it fully lacks the faculties to do so. Nor
does the plant acknowledge, in any fashion, it's awareness of the
inanimate object.
Please list anyone who thinks that a rock is a life form (anyone who
isn't a complete moron)
One level upward, the plant (simple life) does not respond to, or
relate to, the cow's existence because it lacks the faculties to do
so. However, the cow does have a limited reverse recognition of the
plant because it is a noted food source for the cow, but the plant
does not relate in any way to the cow, what it is, or why it is.
Their are numerous examples of life that are simpler than plants. How
do you decide what is alive? Then tell me if these things are alive:
viruses, monerons, proteinoid microspheres, prions or crystals.
As for your claim that "plants do not respond to, or relate to, the
cow's existence" how do you think plants (specifically grasses) evolved
the way they did without responding to the grazing animals (deer,
antelope, bison and later the domesticated cows)? Grasses grow from
intercalary meristems and not from their tips. In other word when you
cut your grass it does not start growing again from the wound. It
starts growing from the base. The plants that were growing in prairies
that grew from their tips were at a disadvantage and did not reproduce
as well as the grasses. There is no need to interject god in this
hypothesis
One level up, the cow (complex life form) does not respond to, or
relate to, the human's existence, other than in very rudimentary ways,
because it lacks the faculties to do so. Man, on the other hand, has
a full range of knowledge and a clear relationship directed backward
to the cow including leading the cow by the nose, but the cow has
minimal upward reaction to the man other than the cow sees the man,
but has no idea what the man is or what the man does or why the man is
there.
You still haven't given any evidence for your god.
Notice how one level can relate backwards to a lower level, but in the
opposite higher level only in a very rudimentary fashion. Yet each
higher level not only exists but exists "basically unknown" to the
level below it.
What, then, regarding the existence of a level higher than the human?
As is seen at each level, the inability, or limited ability, to relate
to the level above it does not in any way negate its very existence.
Please show evidence for your presumption that their is a higher level
than humans can understand.
We knowlingly lack sufficient faculties to respond to, or relate to, a
higher level above man. Does this negate the existence of such a
level? Why should we be able to relate upwards when lower life can't.
By all logic, there should be at least one level above human.
As humans (mankind), we possess tremendous advanced faculties over
those of the cow - intelligence, reason, logic, love, empathy,
sympathy, knowing we suffer and why, etc.
Many animals show different levels of intelligence, reason, love,
empathy and sympathy.
And we can use these
faculties to study, learn, reason, dream, and subjectively conclude
that, logically speaking, some level should exist higher than man.
I asked for objective evidence and you give me your subjective opinion.
As before, we too are limited in our ability to relate to that higher
level, but in no way does this negate its existence.
If there is no greater known than man, then man would be the pinnacle
of life, the top - evidenced by the mess we make of the world - war,
disease, pestilence, hatred, man's inhumanity to man, etc.
Man as the ultimate, the pinnacle, the top, is illogical.
How many levels are there above us? We don't know - we can't even
prove so much as one level. The top level, by all logic, must be
*perfection*. Is it reasonable to think the move from man to the top
is made in one step? That is not very imaginative.
So let's think in term of two steps - one greater than man and one
lesser than a supreme being. Strangely enough, the "angel" fits the
position exactly, more than man but less than perfection.
Show evidence that angels exists outside of your imagination.
Can we prove it - of course not. But we can use our advanced
capacities to dream, to aspire, to reach out for that possible next
step, from which we can profess to truly be the creation of one more
perfect than us.
*****
I did not ask you to "prove it". I asked you for objective empirical
evidence. Which you did not give me.
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Khartoum aa#2110
When two men of science disagree, they do not invoke the secular arm;
they wait for further evidence to decide the issue, because, as men
of science,they know that neither is infallible. But when two
theologians differ,since there is no criteria to which either can
appeal, there is nothing for it but mutual hatred and an open or
covert appeal to force.
Bertrand Russell
Can Religion Cure our Troubles 1954
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27 Dec 2003 01:15:10 PM |
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in article 4r1ruvss6g4r1vk9anf25nh60ifjss71o8@4ax.com, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net wrote on 12/27/03 7:26 AM:
On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:25:11 GMT, khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com>
wrote:
Duke's definition of xtain = whatever the RCC tells him to think.
Hey, katoum, that should be "xain", where "x" = "Christ".
You're spelling it "Christtain", which is wrong.
This is priceless. It drips with irony.
Christians are so funny.
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27 Dec 2003 01:50:16 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:15:10 -0600, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
This is priceless. It drips with irony.
Christians are so funny.
I may be funny, but you are the one living on the losing edge, not me.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. You: lose/no win. No win comes into play if
there is no almighty God.
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| User: "BDK" |
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28 Dec 2003 11:51:29 AM |
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In article <ngoruvcq6d17f6drvubd5koapm8ln8scah@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:15:10 -0600, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
This is priceless. It drips with irony.
Christians are so funny.
I may be funny, but you are the one living on the losing edge, not me.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. You: lose/no win. No win comes into play if
there is no almighty God.
I don't play Roulette, the odds are so bad, I know there is almost no
chance I can win in the long run. Those odds are thousands of times
better than any god you hope for really existing.
Oh, Dooky!! I'm sorry, your a loser! Would you like to bet again??
BDK
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| User: "jfr" |
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27 Dec 2003 02:37:55 PM |
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Remember the phrase "Nobody's perfect?"
I'm sure most xians have made enough mistakes to go to hell.
Focusing on these myths (if you believe in them) might perhaps
therefore be described as morbid (for all the joyful optimism
you present).
jfr
"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ngoruvcq6d17f6drvubd5koapm8ln8scah@4ax.com...
On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:15:10 -0600, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com>
wrote:
This is priceless. It drips with irony.
Christians are so funny.
I may be funny, but you are the one living on the losing edge, not me.
Me: win (hopefully)/no win. You: lose/no win. No win comes into play
if
there is no almighty God.
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| User: "Solomon Kozanski" |
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07 Jan 2004 07:29:11 PM |
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"jfr" <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bskqj6$112$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk...
Remember the phrase "Nobody's perfect?"
I'm sure most xians have made enough mistakes to go to hell.
Focusing on these myths (if you believe in them) might perhaps
therefore be described as morbid (for all the joyful optimism
you present).
and if there is a loving god, chances are truth-seeking, inherently moral
atheists will be the first ones admitted into "heaven", whilst the
self-righteous, witch burning "ecks" worshippers will be conveniently
propelled into the nearest star.
of course, the odds of this happening are greater than or equal to planck's
constant divided by 4 pi. (heisenberg would never forgive me if i said the
odds were zero.)
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| User: "Bob Dog" |
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24 Dec 2003 09:46:40 PM |
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khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:<q7hGb.640997$Tr4.1647841@attbi_s03>...
duke wrote:
Jeshua is an old Jewish name for almighty God. It's probably only used in tight
Jewish circles.
I might have spelled it wrong here but I pronounced it correctly when
talking to him. Yeshua
He proves the point about him not knowing the history.
I'm not surprised you'd say this after your top 10 list.
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said in the beginning
that this was not my list.
That goes without saying. Dupe is a xian, after all.
Nice list, where'dja find it?
Bob Dog
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| User: "khartoum" |
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24 Dec 2003 10:15:47 PM |
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Bob Dog wrote:
khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:<q7hGb.640997$Tr4.1647841@attbi_s03>...
duke wrote:
Jeshua is an old Jewish name for almighty God. It's probably only used in tight
Jewish circles.
I might have spelled it wrong here but I pronounced it correctly when
talking to him. Yeshua
He proves the point about him not knowing the history.
I'm not surprised you'd say this after your top 10 list.
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? I said in the beginning
that this was not my list.
That goes without saying. Dupe is a xian, after all.
Nice list, where'dja find it?
Bob Dog
It was posted in talk.origins.
--
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Khartoum aa#2110
When two men of science disagree, they do not invoke the secular arm;
they wait for further evidence to decide the issue, because, as men
of science,they know that neither is infallible. But when two
theologians differ,since there is no criteria to which either can
appeal, there is nothing for it but mutual hatred and an open or
covert appeal to force.
Bertrand Russell
Can Religion Cure our Troubles 1954
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Dec 2003 03:41:14 PM |
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 04:15:47 GMT, khartoum <khartoumNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote:
That goes without saying. Dupe is a xian, after all.
And I am so tremendously happy about that.
Nice list, where'dja find it?
Bob Dog
It was posted in talk.origins.
And you don't even know if it's true?
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| User: "Melchizedek" |
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23 Dec 2003 08:00:00 AM |
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http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
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| User: "Geoff Offermann" |
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23 Dec 2003 09:13:24 AM |
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"Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> wrote in message
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com...
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Uh...purpose?
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Dec 2003 07:06:48 PM |
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And so upon Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:13:24 +0000 didst Geoff Offermann speak
thusly:
"Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> wrote in message
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com...
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Uh...purpose?
Melcheewhiz has none.
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "stoney" |
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26 Dec 2003 10:22:17 AM |
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 15:13:24 GMT, "Geoff Offermann"
<gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com>, Message ID:
<oYYFb.461219$275.1351784@attbi_s53> wrote in alt.atheism;
"Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> wrote in message
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com...
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Uh...purpose?
To show the destruction of a brain on religion.
Of course, it was crucified.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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23 Dec 2003 09:33:23 AM |
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On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why I feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
23 Dec 2003 11:47:58 AM |
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Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why I feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
23 Dec 2003 12:07:13 PM |
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On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
23 Dec 2003 12:13:39 PM |
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Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
Don't forget to thank all the little people who made it all possible.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
23 Dec 2003 02:44:47 PM |
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On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:53687$3fe885d3$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up
his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my
life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
Don't forget to thank all the little people who made it all possible.
Yes, I haven't forgot the Lilliputians. Except the ones who jabbed me
with all those teeny-tiny arrows. That REALLY pissed me off.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
24 Dec 2003 07:06:30 PM |
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And so upon Tue, 23 Dec 2003 20:44:47 +0000 didst Mekkala speak thusly:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:53687$3fe885d3$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up
his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my
life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
Don't forget to thank all the little people who made it all possible.
Yes, I haven't forgot the Lilliputians. Except the ones who jabbed me
with all those teeny-tiny arrows. That REALLY pissed me off.
And, remember, we *like you, we really *like you!
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
23 Dec 2003 04:07:51 PM |
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Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:53687$3fe885d3$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up
his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my
life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
Don't forget to thank all the little people who made it all possible.
Yes, I haven't forgot the Lilliputians. Except the ones who jabbed me
with all those teeny-tiny arrows. That REALLY pissed me off.
Just stamp on them. I would.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
23 Dec 2003 04:12:32 PM |
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On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:c41d3$3fe8bcb7$51569c09$23496@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:53687$3fe885d3$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following
message
in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up
his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really
amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my
life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why
I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
Don't forget to thank all the little people who made it all
possible.
Yes, I haven't forgot the Lilliputians. Except the ones who jabbed
me
with all those teeny-tiny arrows. That REALLY pissed me off.
Just stamp on them. I would.
Oh, I did, but those little buggers are FAST... you wouldn't BELIEVE.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
23 Dec 2003 04:27:45 PM |
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Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:c41d3$3fe8bcb7$51569c09$23496@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:53687$3fe885d3$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following
message
in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up
his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really
amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my
life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why
I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
Don't forget to thank all the little people who made it all
possible.
Yes, I haven't forgot the Lilliputians. Except the ones who jabbed
me
with all those teeny-tiny arrows. That REALLY pissed me off.
Just stamp on them. I would.
Oh, I did, but those little buggers are FAST... you wouldn't BELIEVE.
Must be those jet-packs they've recently been issued with. Trick is to
stamp at them so they all swarm up, then swing round with the flame
thrower. Works every time, believe me.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
23 Dec 2003 05:42:20 PM |
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In article <b9c1e$3fe8c161$51569c09$25948@nf2.news-service.com>, Kevin Anthoney
says...
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:c41d3$3fe8bcb7$51569c09$23496@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:53687$3fe885d3$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following
message
in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up
his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really
amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my
life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why
I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
Don't forget to thank all the little people who made it all
possible.
Yes, I haven't forgot the Lilliputians. Except the ones who jabbed
me
with all those teeny-tiny arrows. That REALLY pissed me off.
Just stamp on them. I would.
Oh, I did, but those little buggers are FAST... you wouldn't BELIEVE.
Must be those jet-packs they've recently been issued with. Trick is to
stamp at them so they all swarm up, then swing round with the flame
thrower. Works every time, believe me.
There's a giant on the beach!!!
(You old-timers will get this reference)
Aaaaalls well! Such a rainy day!
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Top Ten Signs You're A Christian |
24 Dec 2003 05:09:13 PM |
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And so upon Tue, 23 Dec 2003 23:42:20 +0000 didst Robibnikoff speak
thusly:
In article <b9c1e$3fe8c161$51569c09$25948@nf2.news-service.com>, Kevin Anthoney
says...
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:c41d3$3fe8bcb7$51569c09$23496@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:53687$3fe885d3$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, Kevin Anthoney <kevin_anthoney@hotmail.com> screwed
up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following
message
in
news:55ca2$3fe87fcf$51569c09$14281@nf2.news-service.com:
Mekkala wrote:
On 23 Dec 2003, "Melchizedek" <Melchizedek@as-if.com> screwed up
his
face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message
in
news:tTXFb.25777$By5.5997@news.randori.com:
http://bibleweb.info/ftp/broadcast.html
Oh, wow, Melchizedek... that's an awesome site. I'm really
amazed!
It's giving me all the answers to all the tough questions in my
life,
and I'm astonished at how it all fits together! I don't know why
I
feel
like this, but I think that site might just have the Truth(TM).
*sheds a heartfelt tear*
Are you trying for an Oscar, or something?
Yes. Yes indeed, I am.
Don't forget to thank all the little people who made it all
possible.
Yes, I haven't forgot the Lilliputians. Except the ones who jabbed
me
with all those teeny-tiny arrows. That REALLY pissed me off.
Just stamp on them. I would.
Oh, I did, but those little buggers are FAST... you wouldn't BELIEVE.
Must be those jet-packs they've recently been issued with. Trick is to
stamp at them so they all swarm up, then swing round with the flame
thrower. Works every time, believe me.
There's a giant on the beach!!!
(You old-timers will get this reference)
Aaaaalls well! Such a rainy day!
Sunny, clear blue skies, cool but not heavy coat cold, going to get down
to fireplace needed cold but not much further...
And me, the humbug...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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