Religions > Atheism > Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren't Violated
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"J Young" |
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26 Mar 2006 12:31:55 AM |
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Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren't Violated |
Two points on the following article
#1) The girls parents can always send her to a school of their liking. The
taxpayer shouldn't be asked to subsidize the lifestyle of a potential enemy
of the state.
#2) There is no such thing as a "better Muslim".
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=\ForeignBureaus\archive\200603/FOR20060323b.html
London (CNSNews.com) - Dismissing claims that her human rights had been
violated, Britain's highest court has ruled against a British teenager who
wanted to wear an all-encompassing Muslim dress to school.
Deciding unanimously, the British Law Lords said that a high school in
Luton, north of London, acted properly when it barred the now 17-year-old
Shabina Begum from attending dressed in the long, coat-like "jilbab."
Denbigh High School first refused to admit Begum in September 2002, when she
showed up wearing the outfit she claimed her religion required her to wear.
Her case came to the attention of a team of human rights lawyers --
including Cherie Booth, wife of Prime Minister Tony Blair -- and she won an
appeal against the school a year ago.
But the Law Lords ruled Wednesday that the school was within its rights to
maintain its own dress code, one which they commended as a thoughtful
balance between the needs of students and the community.
According to court documents, 79 percent of students at the school are
Muslim, mostly the children of Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants.
Following consultations in 1993 with parents and local imams, the school
principal allowed girls to wear headscarves as well as an outfit called the
"shalwar kameeze" -- a sleeveless, smock-like dress over loose trousers.
The documents said Denbigh High School imposed one form of Islam dress
because it wanted to decrease ethnic tensions and stop possible competition
between students about who was the "better Muslim."
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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| Title: Re: Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren't Violated |
26 Mar 2006 11:38:35 AM |
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*#2) There is no such thing as a "better Muslim".
"Vile racism like yours has no place in this forum. Please exhibit some
decency and refrain from such overtones. Thankyou."
(J Young, Jan. 7, 2006)
***** you J Young.
*The taxpayer shouldn't be asked to subsidize the lifestyle of a
potential enemy
*of the state.
Let's hope that when you're sick, we let you die: no one hates the USA
more than you.
Oh and, you do remember writing this also, don't you:
"Why does anyone want to be somewhere where they clearly are not
wanted?"
(J Young, Mar. 16, 2006)
What are you waiting to quit this discussion group, nazi turd?
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| User: "Sanitys Little Helper" |
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| Title: Re: Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren'tViolated |
27 Mar 2006 03:03:44 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Two points on the following article
#1) The girls parents can always send her to a school of their liking. The
taxpayer shouldn't be asked to subsidize the lifestyle of a potential enemy
of the state.
#2) There is no such thing as a "better Muslim".
Any more than there is such a thing as a good Christstain. Religion
belongs to Autocratic and fear-driven societies long dead, and the
maintenance of societies based on religion requires the sacrifice of all
human rights, that's why the court's decision was right.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren't Violated |
27 Mar 2006 03:20:30 AM |
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J Young wrote:
Two points on the following article
#1) The girls parents can always send her to a school of their liking. The
taxpayer shouldn't be asked to subsidize the lifestyle of a potential enemy
of the state.
Yes, there is no way the state should subsidise the folowers of a
foreign religion who owe their allegiance to a foreign, transnational
ideology above that of the state:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=roman+catholic+high+school&btnG=Google+Search&meta=cr%3DcountryUK%7CcountryGB
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| User: "Adam H" |
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| Title: Re: Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren't Violated |
26 Mar 2006 09:36:59 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:31:55 -0500, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
wrote:
Two points on the following article
#1) The girls parents can always send her to a school of their liking. The
taxpayer shouldn't be asked to subsidize the lifestyle of a potential enemy
of the state.
#2) There is no such thing as a "better Muslim".
But if the case had concerned a Xtian being banned because of a cross
you would have been talking about suppression of freedom. Does your
hypocrisy know any bounds at all, Young?
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I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
- Stephen F. Roberts
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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| Title: Re: Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren't Violated |
26 Mar 2006 02:35:25 PM |
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"Adam H" <adam@mailinator.com> wrote
[ ban on Islamic dress in schools ]
But if the case had concerned a Xtian being banned because of a cross
you would have been talking about suppression of freedom. Does your
hypocrisy know any bounds at all, Young?
You cannot treat all religions equally.
Britain doesn't pretend to.
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Buy my book 12 Common Atheist Arguments (refuted)
$1.25 download or $6.90 paper, available www.lulu.com
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| User: "Americano" |
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| Title: Re: Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren't Violated |
26 Mar 2006 09:54:02 AM |
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But if the case had concerned a Xtian being banned because of a cross
you would have been talking about suppression of freedom.
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I suspect a student wearing a cross to this particular school
would have a lot to be worried about.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Top UK Court Tells Muslim Schoolgirl Her Human Rights Weren'tViolated |
26 Mar 2006 06:37:32 PM |
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in article Ke2dnQRN_avlqLvZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com wrote on 3/26/06 1:31 AM:
Two points on the following article
#1) The girls parents can always send her to a school of their liking. The
taxpayer shouldn't be asked to subsidize the lifestyle of a potential enemy
of the state.
What would J Yo do if people stopped telling him such things?
#2) There is no such thing as a "better Muslim".
So said Father Groper last Sunday?
Paul
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=\ForeignBureaus\archive\200
603/FOR20060323b.html
London (CNSNews.com) - Dismissing claims that her human rights had been
violated, Britain's highest court has ruled against a British teenager who
wanted to wear an all-encompassing Muslim dress to school.
Deciding unanimously, the British Law Lords said that a high school in
Luton, north of London, acted properly when it barred the now 17-year-old
Shabina Begum from attending dressed in the long, coat-like "jilbab."
Denbigh High School first refused to admit Begum in September 2002, when she
showed up wearing the outfit she claimed her religion required her to wear.
Her case came to the attention of a team of human rights lawyers --
including Cherie Booth, wife of Prime Minister Tony Blair -- and she won an
appeal against the school a year ago.
But the Law Lords ruled Wednesday that the school was within its rights to
maintain its own dress code, one which they commended as a thoughtful
balance between the needs of students and the community.
According to court documents, 79 percent of students at the school are
Muslim, mostly the children of Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi immigrants.
Following consultations in 1993 with parents and local imams, the school
principal allowed girls to wear headscarves as well as an outfit called the
"shalwar kameeze" -- a sleeveless, smock-like dress over loose trousers.
The documents said Denbigh High School imposed one form of Islam dress
because it wanted to decrease ethnic tensions and stop possible competition
between students about who was the "better Muslim."
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