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"HVAC" |
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11 Mar 2006 06:42:11 AM |
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Tortured And Shot |
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
By "torture" I assume that they made him play naked twister and
peed on the bible?
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
11 Mar 2006 06:56:24 AM |
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On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
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| User: "Hagar" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
12 Mar 2006 11:29:05 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:b5i5125dqkau8ri026t8u1sf2h23phi2bd@4ax.com...
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
That is about as smart as walking in a biker bar and announcing that all
Harley rider are gay ... duh
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
13 Mar 2006 08:01:36 PM |
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:29:05 -0800, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote in
alt.atheism
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:b5i5125dqkau8ri026t8u1sf2h23phi2bd@4ax.com...
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
That is about as smart as walking in a biker bar and announcing that all
Harley rider are gay ... duh
Superstitious people aren't known for their education or cognitive
functions.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "Comrad Bluskie" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
14 Mar 2006 12:57:23 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 09:29:05 -0800, "Hagar" <hagen@sahm.name> wrote in
alt.atheism
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:b5i5125dqkau8ri026t8u1sf2h23phi2bd@4ax.com...
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
That is about as smart as walking in a biker bar and announcing that all
Harley rider are gay ... duh
Superstitious people aren't known for their education or cognitive
functions.
are you saying bikers are superstitious because they dont like being
called gay?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
13 Mar 2006 12:54:00 PM |
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Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
No wonder he deserved to die. What a clown you are.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
13 Mar 2006 08:30:25 PM |
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On 13 Mar 2006 10:54:00 -0800, wrote:
Christopher A. Lee wrote:
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
No wonder he deserved to die. What a clown you are.
Yet another binary thinking, lying theist who puts words intro
people's mouths in order to attack his own fabrications.
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| User: "Lizz Holmans" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
11 Mar 2006 08:09:44 AM |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:56:24 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
Try http://www.afsc.org/about/nobel/default.htm for just one example.
There's quite a bit of it about.
Lizz 'nothing is better for thee than me' Holmans
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
13 Mar 2006 12:32:53 PM |
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On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:56:24 -0500, in alt.atheism , Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> in
<b5i5125dqkau8ri026t8u1sf2h23phi2bd@4ax.com> wrote:
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
Here are a few examples of Christian peace activists, some of whom are
pretty famous for their Christian peace activism. Some of them also
put themselves in rather dangerous places.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Father Daniel Berrigan
Father Phillip Berrigan
Trappist monk Thomas Merton
Cindy Sheehan
Jimmy Carter
Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
Albert Schweitzer
Mairead Corrigan
Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
Oscar Arias Sánchez
I will hope that you are simply ignorant and not blind with bigotry.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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13 Mar 2006 09:02:09 PM |
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On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:32:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
- Refer: <gpdb12l3lpen5lrj0c6uojr63h3raqerio@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:56:24 -0500, in alt.atheism , Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> in
<b5i5125dqkau8ri026t8u1sf2h23phi2bd@4ax.com> wrote:
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
Here are a few examples of Christian peace activists, some of whom are
pretty famous for their Christian peace activism. Some of them also
put themselves in rather dangerous places.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Father Daniel Berrigan
Father Phillip Berrigan
Trappist monk Thomas Merton
Cindy Sheehan
Jimmy Carter
Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
Albert Schweitzer
Mairead Corrigan
Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
Oscar Arias Sánchez
I will hope that you are simply ignorant and not blind with bigotry.
Jimmy Carter was directly responsible for hundreds, if not thousands
of deaths, and the creation of the power of the Taliban and Osama bin
Laden's rise to terror.
You'd do well to take him off the list, quick smart.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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| Title: Re: Tortured And Shot |
13 Mar 2006 10:20:02 PM |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:32:09 +1030, in alt.atheism , Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> in
<3ccc12pfecqpmndul5vgo6rlbkh0i7n9d2@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:32:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
- Refer: <gpdb12l3lpen5lrj0c6uojr63h3raqerio@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:56:24 -0500, in alt.atheism , Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> in
<b5i5125dqkau8ri026t8u1sf2h23phi2bd@4ax.com> wrote:
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
Here are a few examples of Christian peace activists, some of whom are
pretty famous for their Christian peace activism. Some of them also
put themselves in rather dangerous places.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Father Daniel Berrigan
Father Phillip Berrigan
Trappist monk Thomas Merton
Cindy Sheehan
Jimmy Carter
Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
Albert Schweitzer
Mairead Corrigan
Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
Oscar Arias Sánchez
I will hope that you are simply ignorant and not blind with bigotry.
Jimmy Carter was directly responsible for hundreds, if not thousands
of deaths, and the creation of the power of the Taliban and Osama bin
Laden's rise to terror.
You'd do well to take him off the list, quick smart.
And what does that have to do with his peace activism? Do you actually
assert that pure pacifism is the only "peace" option? Or that his
actions after leaving office are irrelevant? How about you make an
actual argument.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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14 Mar 2006 05:39:56 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:20:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
- Refer: <40hc12d19ugnrk282kv10i612htudqk8ig@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:32:09 +1030, in alt.atheism , Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> in
<3ccc12pfecqpmndul5vgo6rlbkh0i7n9d2@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:32:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
- Refer: <gpdb12l3lpen5lrj0c6uojr63h3raqerio@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:56:24 -0500, in alt.atheism , Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> in
<b5i5125dqkau8ri026t8u1sf2h23phi2bd@4ax.com> wrote:
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
Here are a few examples of Christian peace activists, some of whom are
pretty famous for their Christian peace activism. Some of them also
put themselves in rather dangerous places.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Father Daniel Berrigan
Father Phillip Berrigan
Trappist monk Thomas Merton
Cindy Sheehan
Jimmy Carter
Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
Albert Schweitzer
Mairead Corrigan
Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
Oscar Arias Sánchez
I will hope that you are simply ignorant and not blind with bigotry.
Jimmy Carter was directly responsible for hundreds, if not thousands
of deaths, and the creation of the power of the Taliban and Osama bin
Laden's rise to terror.
You'd do well to take him off the list, quick smart.
And what does that have to do with his peace activism? Do you actually
assert that pure pacifism is the only "peace" option? Or that his
actions after leaving office are irrelevant? How about you make an
actual argument.
The thousands of deaths to which I refer are not those proximately
associated with "9/11".
Carter did the above whilst in absolute charge of the "free world".
While "in office".
If that does not negate his nearly zero concrete achievements in
peace/piece activism, then you would be forced by the principle of
moral equivalence to give Hitler the Nobel Peace Prize for being
vaguely nice to his tea-lady.
If feel able to dish out the gratuitous advice on agrmentation, then
how about you do some research on the matter?
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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14 Mar 2006 08:22:10 AM |
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:09:56 +1030, in alt.atheism , Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> in
<adad129nb9et5q80q9ki921dma0lh133ja@4ax.com> wrote:
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:20:02 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
- Refer: <40hc12d19ugnrk282kv10i612htudqk8ig@4ax.com>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 13:32:09 +1030, in alt.atheism , Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> in
<3ccc12pfecqpmndul5vgo6rlbkh0i7n9d2@4ax.com> wrote:
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:32:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
- Refer: <gpdb12l3lpen5lrj0c6uojr63h3raqerio@4ax.com>
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 07:56:24 -0500, in alt.atheism , Christopher A.
Lee <calee@optonline.net> in
<b5i5125dqkau8ri026t8u1sf2h23phi2bd@4ax.com> wrote:
On 11 Mar 2006 04:42:11 -0800, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- American hostage Tom Fox -- who was kidnapped
with three other Christian peace activists in November -- has been
found shot in the head with his body showing signs of torture, Iraqi
emergency police told CNN Saturday.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/03/11/iraq.hostage/index.html
What the heck is a "Christian peace activist", and what are they doing
in an Islamic country in the first place? Especially one where
Americans and others are seen as agents of the hated occupying power?
Here are a few examples of Christian peace activists, some of whom are
pretty famous for their Christian peace activism. Some of them also
put themselves in rather dangerous places.
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Father Daniel Berrigan
Father Phillip Berrigan
Trappist monk Thomas Merton
Cindy Sheehan
Jimmy Carter
Friends Service Council, American Friends Service Committee
Albert Schweitzer
Mairead Corrigan
Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
Oscar Arias Sánchez
I will hope that you are simply ignorant and not blind with bigotry.
Jimmy Carter was directly responsible for hundreds, if not thousands
of deaths, and the creation of the power of the Taliban and Osama bin
Laden's rise to terror.
You'd do well to take him off the list, quick smart.
And what does that have to do with his peace activism? Do you actually
assert that pure pacifism is the only "peace" option? Or that his
actions after leaving office are irrelevant? How about you make an
actual argument.
The thousands of deaths to which I refer are not those proximately
associated with "9/11".
Do you want to give us another hint or two on what else they are not
associated with?
Carter did the above whilst in absolute charge of the "free world".
While "in office".
So?
If that does not negate his nearly zero concrete achievements in
peace/piece activism, then you would be forced by the principle of
moral equivalence to give Hitler the Nobel Peace Prize for being
vaguely nice to his tea-lady.
I see, so you feel that Hitler did things the equivalent of Carter's
work for Middle East peace or what he has done with the Cater Center
(www.cartercenter.org/). In fact, you think that the Nobel Prize folks
were just wrong when they gave Carter the Peace Price
(http://nobelprize.org/peace/laureates/2002/index.html) because he was
responsible for hundreds of deaths while in office. Other than you and
your remarkable work for peace who do you see as a legitimate peace
activist?
If feel able to dish out the gratuitous advice on agrmentation, then
how about you do some research on the matter?
Well, when you feel like making an argument rather than an assertion
let me know.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Mike Combs" |
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15 Mar 2006 12:11:48 PM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:cajd12l9efv67p5cfkne7urb0ntob5q6ni@4ax.com...
In fact, you think that the Nobel Prize folks
were just wrong when they gave Carter the Peace Price
(http://nobelprize.org/peace/laureates/2002/index.html) because he was
responsible for hundreds of deaths while in office.
The problem is that so many of the people who genuinely improved the world
were capitalist pigs who are ineligible for Nobel Prizes.
--
Regards,
Mike Combs
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By all that you hold dear on this good Earth
I bid you stand, Men of the West!
Aragorn
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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15 Mar 2006 12:41:52 PM |
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:11:48 -0600, in alt.atheism , "Mike Combs"
<mikecombs@nospam.com_chg_nospam_2_ti> in
<dv9ld4$pq1$1@home.itg.ti.com> wrote:
"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote in
message news:cajd12l9efv67p5cfkne7urb0ntob5q6ni@4ax.com...
In fact, you think that the Nobel Prize folks
were just wrong when they gave Carter the Peace Price
(http://nobelprize.org/peace/laureates/2002/index.html) because he was
responsible for hundreds of deaths while in office.
The problem is that so many of the people who genuinely improved the world
were capitalist pigs who are ineligible for Nobel Prizes.
Well, as long as you wish to change the subject, many of the people
who genuinely hurt the world were also capitalist pigs. The issue here
was how one could simultaneously be a Christian and a peace activist.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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