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05 Jul 2004 02:38:28 AM |
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"Touching the Void" on DVD now |
Some time ago there was a thread about the movie which told of an
atheist mountain climber's fight for survival when trapped on a
mountain high in the Andes. I rented and watched it last night and I
would highly recommend it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Raptor514" |
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| Title: Re: "Touching the Void" on DVD now |
06 Jul 2004 09:52:33 AM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-E95295.00382805072004@news.giganews.com...
Some time ago there was a thread about the movie which told of an
atheist mountain climber's fight for survival when trapped on a
mountain high in the Andes. I rented and watched it last night and I
would highly recommend it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
I just saw it a few days ago and it was awesome. I had no idea about the
atheist angle when I rented it and then the subject of praying for help out
of his situation (horrifying, to say the least) was brought up. I thought
to myself, "Aw, here it comes. The touching moment when he begs a make
believe God for help." but it didn't happen that way at all. I was quite
surprised to say the least. The host didn't come back later and weasel some
religion in or anything. It was refreshing to see such honesty.
Raptor514
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: "Touching the Void" on DVD now |
07 Jul 2004 12:14:27 AM |
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In article <R0zGc.16702$Xq4.11037@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>,
"Raptor514" <Raptor514@SPAMSUCKS.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-E95295.00382805072004@news.giganews.com...
Some time ago there was a thread about the movie which told of an
atheist mountain climber's fight for survival when trapped on a
mountain high in the Andes. I rented and watched it last night and I
would highly recommend it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
I just saw it a few days ago and it was awesome. I had no idea about the
atheist angle when I rented it and then the subject of praying for help out
of his situation (horrifying, to say the least) was brought up. I thought
to myself, "Aw, here it comes. The touching moment when he begs a make
believe God for help." but it didn't happen that way at all. I was quite
surprised to say the least. The host didn't come back later and weasel some
religion in or anything. It was refreshing to see such honesty.
Raptor514
I could still guess the reaction of a fundy on seeing the same movie.
"It was a miracle! Gawd saved him for something else!" Sure.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Zartregu" |
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| Title: Re: "Touching the Void" on DVD now |
06 Jul 2004 01:37:48 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message news:<jhachm-E95295.00382805072004@news.giganews.com>...
Some time ago there was a thread about the movie which told of an
atheist mountain climber's fight for survival when trapped on a
mountain high in the Andes. I rented and watched it last night and I
would highly recommend it.
I liked that movie a lot.
Reenacted episodes with actors alternate with interviews of the
real-life mountaineers. In one of these interviews, the man who had
the worst experience says (quoting from memory): "I don't believe in
God but I always wondered if, faced with a life threatening situation,
I would revert to prayer. But actually, when I went through all this,
I was focused on survival and religion didn't cross my mind at all,
not even one bit. I guess that means I'm really not a believer !"
Later on, he examines rationally the episodes where, badly dehydrated
and wounded, he hallucinates voices. I guess a theist would have
interpreted that as the voice of angels!
Highly recommended.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: "Touching the Void" on DVD now |
07 Jul 2004 12:20:50 AM |
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In article <eb8d457f.0407061037.c226c04@posting.google.com>,
(Zartregu) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-E95295.00382805072004@news.giganews.com>...
Some time ago there was a thread about the movie which told of an
atheist mountain climber's fight for survival when trapped on a
mountain high in the Andes. I rented and watched it last night and I
would highly recommend it.
I liked that movie a lot.
Reenacted episodes with actors alternate with interviews of the
real-life mountaineers. In one of these interviews, the man who had
the worst experience says (quoting from memory): "I don't believe in
God but I always wondered if, faced with a life threatening situation,
I would revert to prayer. But actually, when I went through all this,
I was focused on survival and religion didn't cross my mind at all,
not even one bit. I guess that means I'm really not a believer !"
Later on, he examines rationally the episodes where, badly dehydrated
and wounded, he hallucinates voices. I guess a theist would have
interpreted that as the voice of angels!
A fundy would probably have died praying for a miracle instead of
saving himself.
Highly recommended.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: "Touching the Void" on DVD now |
07 Jul 2004 01:47:44 PM |
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 22:20:50 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in alt.atheism:
In article <eb8d457f.0407061037.c226c04@posting.google.com>,
zzogue@hotmail.com (Zartregu) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-E95295.00382805072004@news.giganews.com>...
Some time ago there was a thread about the movie which told of an
atheist mountain climber's fight for survival when trapped on a
mountain high in the Andes. I rented and watched it last night and I
would highly recommend it.
I liked that movie a lot.
Reenacted episodes with actors alternate with interviews of the
real-life mountaineers. In one of these interviews, the man who had
the worst experience says (quoting from memory): "I don't believe in
God but I always wondered if, faced with a life threatening situation,
I would revert to prayer. But actually, when I went through all this,
I was focused on survival and religion didn't cross my mind at all,
not even one bit. I guess that means I'm really not a believer !"
Later on, he examines rationally the episodes where, badly dehydrated
and wounded, he hallucinates voices. I guess a theist would have
interpreted that as the voice of angels!
A fundy would probably have died praying for a miracle instead of
saving himself.
Ah, well. If it's gawd's will . . .
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/Apostate
atheist #(e^7.5657933) I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; billions served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
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| User: "Alan Hobson" |
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| Title: Re: "Touching the Void" on DVD now |
05 Jul 2004 01:13:43 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message news:<jhachm-E95295.00382805072004@news.giganews.com>...
Some time ago there was a thread about the movie which told of an
atheist mountain climber's fight for survival when trapped on a
mountain high in the Andes. I rented and watched it last night and I
would highly recommend it.
Ooops! From the title I thought it was a film about sticking your
finger in a fundie's ear.
-Alan
aa#1608 BAAWA
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: "Touching the Void" on DVD now |
05 Jul 2004 11:32:16 PM |
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In article <d1d6cbe3.0407051013.2ab5461e@posting.google.com>,
(Alan Hobson) wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote in message
news:<jhachm-E95295.00382805072004@news.giganews.com>...
Some time ago there was a thread about the movie which told of an
atheist mountain climber's fight for survival when trapped on a
mountain high in the Andes. I rented and watched it last night and I
would highly recommend it.
Ooops! From the title I thought it was a film about sticking your
finger in a fundie's ear.
No, That would be a sci fi thriller about exploring a black hole.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Men become civilized not in their willingness to believe, but in
proportion to their readiness to doubt." - H. L. Mencken
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