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User: "johac"
Date: 24 May 2007 06:46:08 PM
Object: Tracks suggest dinos could swim
Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?
---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim
Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.
The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.
The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.
The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.
They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.
"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.
"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."
Immediately obvious
The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.
"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.
"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.
"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."
Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.
Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.
"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.
"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."
For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.
Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.
But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.
"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.
"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."
---
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.

User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 24 May 2007 08:33:05 PM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28D486.16460824052007@news.giganews.com...

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?

I want to see a Tyranosaurus Rex do the butterfly stroke.
"I can't do it. I've got tiny arms!"


---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim

Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.

The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.

The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.

The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.

They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.

"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.

"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."

Immediately obvious

The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.

"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.

"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.

"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."

Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.

Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.

"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.

"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."

For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.

Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.

But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.

"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.

"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."

---
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 25 May 2007 12:42:50 AM
In article <59udnQn4rdtbocvbnZ2dnUVZ_s6onZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-28D486.16460824052007@news.giganews.com...

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?


I want to see a Tyranosaurus Rex do the butterfly stroke.
"I can't do it. I've got tiny arms!"

That would be something to see. Apparently the dinosaur was scraping
along the bottom. If the water were over the dino's head, I wonder how
well it would have done.


---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim

Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.

The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.

The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.

The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.

They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.

--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.


User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 25 May 2007 03:17:05 AM
On May 25, 12:46 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?

---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim

Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.

The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.

The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.

The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.

They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.

"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.

"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."

Immediately obvious

The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.

"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.

"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.

"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."

Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.

Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.

"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.

"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."

For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.

Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.

But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.

"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.

"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."

---http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm
--
John #1782

"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.

Aha! That's why they weren't aboard the Ark.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 25 May 2007 05:47:03 PM
In article <1180081025.694908.18380@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
"Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" <user13@heathens.org.uk>
wrote:

On May 25, 12:46 am, johac <jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?

---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim

Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.

The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.

The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.

The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.

They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.

"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.

"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."

Immediately obvious

The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.

"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.

"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.

"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."

Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.

Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.

"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.

"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."

For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.

Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.

But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.

"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.

"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."

---http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm


Aha! That's why they weren't aboard the Ark.

Yep. They all swam along side it.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.


User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 24 May 2007 10:06:32 PM
johac presented the following :

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?
---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim
Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.
The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.
The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.
The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.
They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.
"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.
"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."
Immediately obvious
The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.
"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.
"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.
"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."
Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.
Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.
"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.
"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."
For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.
Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.
But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.
"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.
"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."
---
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm

A picture and a sketch!!!!! Yayyyyy!!!!! I remember one of the dino
documentaries had a section on a dino swimming from one island to
another... nice to have confirmation that segment is not just possible,
but real!!!
--
Aut viam inveniam aut faciam.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 25 May 2007 12:40:09 AM
In article <mn.c4f27d75564b80a9.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:

johac presented the following :

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?


---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim


Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.


The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.


The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.


The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.


They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.


"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.


"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."


Immediately obvious


The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.


"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.


"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.


"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."


Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.


Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.


"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.


"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."


For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.


Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.


But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.


"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.


"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."


---
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm


A picture and a sketch!!!!! Yayyyyy!!!!! I remember one of the dino
documentaries had a section on a dino swimming from one island to
another... nice to have confirmation that segment is not just possible,
but real!!!

Yep. Although if I were swimming I wouldn't want to encounter a T. Rex.
Sharks are bad enough (although almost certainly much better swimmers.)
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 25 May 2007 04:26:27 AM
On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:40:09 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-E1B84F.22400924052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <mn.c4f27d75564b80a9.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:

johac presented the following :

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?


---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim


Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.


The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.


The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.


The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.


They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.


"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.


"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."


Immediately obvious


The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.


"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.


"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.


"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."


Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.


Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.


"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.


"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."


For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.


Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.


But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.


"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.


"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."


---
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm


A picture and a sketch!!!!! Yayyyyy!!!!! I remember one of the dino
documentaries had a section on a dino swimming from one island to
another... nice to have confirmation that segment is not just possible,
but real!!!


Yep. Although if I were swimming I wouldn't want to encounter a T. Rex.
Sharks are bad enough (although almost certainly much better swimmers.)

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 25 May 2007 05:54:41 PM
In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Thu, 24 May 2007 22:40:09 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-E1B84F.22400924052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <mn.c4f27d75564b80a9.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:

johac presented the following :

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?


---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim


Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.


The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.


The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.


The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.


They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.


"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.


"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."


Immediately obvious


The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.


"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.


"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.


"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."


Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.


Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.


"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.


"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."


For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.


Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.


But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.


"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.


"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."


---
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm


A picture and a sketch!!!!! Yayyyyy!!!!! I remember one of the dino
documentaries had a section on a dino swimming from one island to
another... nice to have confirmation that segment is not just possible,
but real!!!


Yep. Although if I were swimming I wouldn't want to encounter a T. Rex.
Sharks are bad enough (although almost certainly much better swimmers.)


Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?

That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 25 May 2007 07:25:31 PM
On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)

He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 26 May 2007 12:44:00 AM
In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 26 May 2007 01:50:21 AM
On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?

That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 26 May 2007 05:46:01 PM
In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.

But what if he was also hard of hearing?


--

--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 26 May 2007 08:09:57 PM
On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?

Pardon, sir?
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 27 May 2007 12:40:47 AM
In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?

Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 27 May 2007 03:46:13 AM
On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.

I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 27 May 2007 05:44:24 PM
In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.

What's that? You say you have an cute earwig?
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 27 May 2007 10:21:40 PM
On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:44:24 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-14B484.15442427052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.


What's that? You say you have an cute earwig?

Next Tuesday, I think.
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 27 May 2007 11:18:13 PM
In article <1lik539k1r2vta6t4u2asnp0vgpdff3569@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:44:24 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-14B484.15442427052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.


What's that? You say you have a cute earwig?


Next Tuesday, I think.

Who's a fink?


--

--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 29 May 2007 12:30:11 PM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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In article <1lik539k1r2vta6t4u2asnp0vgpdff3569@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:44:24 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer:
<jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national
shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless"
every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.


What's that? You say you have a cute earwig?


Next Tuesday, I think.


Who's a fink?

My nephew.
It's his last name ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 29 May 2007 05:27:09 PM
In article <5c368eF2up5cvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-74E2E0.21181327052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <1lik539k1r2vta6t4u2asnp0vgpdff3569@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:44:24 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer:
<jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national
shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless"
every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.


What's that? You say you have a cute earwig?


Next Tuesday, I think.


Who's a fink?


My nephew.


It's his last name ;)

LOL! Does he get teased a lot? :-)
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 30 May 2007 10:51:34 AM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-63B972.15270929052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <5c368eF2up5cvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-74E2E0.21181327052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <1lik539k1r2vta6t4u2asnp0vgpdff3569@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:44:24 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-14B484.15442427052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer:
<jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer:
<jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national
shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be
"legless"
every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran
down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.


What's that? You say you have a cute earwig?


Next Tuesday, I think.


Who's a fink?


My nephew.


It's his last name ;)


LOL! Does he get teased a lot? :-)

I honestly don't know. If he gets teased for anything, it's for his poor
speech. If you were to talk to the kid, you'd think he was retarded. The
speech therapy is helping, but it's slow going considering he didn't start
until he was 5.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 30 May 2007 05:51:22 PM
In article <5c5krgF2v24asU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-63B972.15270929052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <5c368eF2up5cvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-74E2E0.21181327052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <1lik539k1r2vta6t4u2asnp0vgpdff3569@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:44:24 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-14B484.15442427052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer:
<jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer:
<jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national
shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be
"legless"
every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran
down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.


What's that? You say you have a cute earwig?


Next Tuesday, I think.


Who's a fink?


My nephew.


It's his last name ;)


LOL! Does he get teased a lot? :-)


I honestly don't know. If he gets teased for anything, it's for his poor
speech. If you were to talk to the kid, you'd think he was retarded. The
speech therapy is helping, but it's slow going considering he didn't start
until he was 5.

Sorry to hear that. I hope the therapy works. Kids can be cruel and I
hope he doesn't get picked on too much.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 01 Jun 2007 09:18:25 AM
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-5BCF7E.15512230052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <5c5krgF2v24asU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-63B972.15270929052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <5c368eF2up5cvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message

SNIP


Who's a fink?


My nephew.


It's his last name ;)


LOL! Does he get teased a lot? :-)


I honestly don't know. If he gets teased for anything, it's for his poor
speech. If you were to talk to the kid, you'd think he was retarded.
The
speech therapy is helping, but it's slow going considering he didn't
start
until he was 5.


Sorry to hear that. I hope the therapy works. Kids can be cruel and I
hope he doesn't get picked on too much.

I hope not too. I already heard about one kid telling him that he sounded
like a retard. Oh well :(
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 01 Jun 2007 07:11:25 PM
In article <5cao4rF301iicU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-5BCF7E.15512230052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <5c5krgF2v24asU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-63B972.15270929052007@news.giganews.com...

In article <5c368eF2up5cvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message


SNIP


Who's a fink?


My nephew.


It's his last name ;)


LOL! Does he get teased a lot? :-)


I honestly don't know. If he gets teased for anything, it's for his poor
speech. If you were to talk to the kid, you'd think he was retarded.
The
speech therapy is helping, but it's slow going considering he didn't
start
until he was 5.


Sorry to hear that. I hope the therapy works. Kids can be cruel and I
hope he doesn't get picked on too much.


I hope not too. I already heard about one kid telling him that he sounded
like a retard. Oh well :(

That's too bad. Kids can be like that. I hope someone talked to the
other kid. :-(
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.






User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 28 May 2007 03:15:08 AM
On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:18:13 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-74E2E0.21181327052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <1lik539k1r2vta6t4u2asnp0vgpdff3569@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:44:24 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-14B484.15442427052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless" every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.


What's that? You say you have a cute earwig?


Next Tuesday, I think.


Who's a fink?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Ratfin.jpg
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 28 May 2007 11:35:15 PM
In article <ro3l53lvb0ga98maa7d58emo6cdk0gd1et@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 21:18:13 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-74E2E0.21181327052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <1lik539k1r2vta6t4u2asnp0vgpdff3569@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:44:24 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-14B484.15442427052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <c9hi53557jqe073ik7mk8mhdkgo00jc496@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 22:40:47 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-D7BFB6.22404626052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <limh53h94mdltihbicpv08rnf9or8gpr7m@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 15:46:01 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-22227B.15460126052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <i4mf539kf301i1oa7alfalprfr3fjv7rii@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 22:44:00 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C795B7.22440025052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <uhve53tglggvadt4mgb5858qmbeijupk61@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Fri, 25 May 2007 15:54:41 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-CD2B9B.15544125052007@news.giganews.com>

In article <usad53dg90itl109ff37ph9anu0jjn960j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


:

Sharks are pussies.
Wassamatta wid you you yanks?


That's right. You guys wrassle 'em. I saw your national shark
wrestling
champion on the tube last week. "Peg Leg Pete." :-)


He was beaten by "Stumpy Steve", who claims to be "legless"
every
night of the week!

Legless? You mean he didn't have a leg to stand on?


That's what the Magistrate told him at the hearing.


But what if he was also hard of hearing?


Pardon, sir?


Eh? Speak up, son! Oh, damn! The battery in my hearing aid ran down
again.


I'll 'ave you know that I have a cute earing.


What's that? You say you have a cute earwig?


Next Tuesday, I think.


Who's a fink?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Ratfin.jpg

LOL! Looks like a member of BushCo.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
.














User: "Pangur Ban"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim 25 May 2007 07:43:46 AM
johac expressed precisely :

In article <mn.c4f27d75564b80a9.73271@att.net>,
Pangur Ban <Whistleblower@att.net> wrote:

johac presented the following :

Yeah, but could they do the backstroke?
---
Tracks suggest dinos could swim


Ancient footprints have provided compelling evidence that some dinosaurs
were able to swim, scientists report.
The 15m (50ft) trackway that reveals one animal's underwater odyssey was
discovered in the Cameros Basin in Spain, once a vast lake.
The S-shaped prints suggest the beast clawed at sediment on the lake
floor as it swam in about 3m (10ft) of water.
The marks are about 125 million years old, dating to the Early
Cretaceous, the team writes in the journal Geology.
They were left by a large, bipedal, carnivorous dinosaur.
"We came across them about three or four years ago," explained Dr Loic
Costeur, a palaeontologist at the University of Nantes, France, and a
co-author of the paper.


"The Cameros Basin has thousands of walking footprints from diverse
dinosaur fauna, but when we saw these it was obvious straightaway that
this was a swimming dinosaur."


Immediately obvious


The underwater trackway, which is well-preserved in sandstone, is made
up of 12 consecutive prints each consisting of two to three scratch
marks.


"The footprints are really peculiar in their shape and morphology - they
are not at all like walking footprints," Dr Costeur told the BBC News
website.


"In walking footprints, you can recognise the shape of the foot; but
here it is not at all the case: it is sets of grooves on the sediment
surface.


"You get the idea that the animals' body was supported by water as it
was scratching the sediment."


Ripple marks around the track suggested the dinosaur was swimming
against a current, attempting to keep a straight path, the team said.
Further investigation of the well-preserved track revealed more about
the beast's swimming style.


"The dinosaur swam with alternating movements of the two hind limbs: a
pelvic paddle swimming motion," said Dr Costeur.
"It is a swimming style of amplified walking with movements similar to
those used by modern bipeds, including aquatic birds."
For many years, the question of whether dinosaurs were able to swim
remained unanswered.


Investigations into dinosaur anatomy and ecology suggested it was
possible, but very little hard evidence existed documenting this
behaviour.


But Dr Costeur described the find as "extremely exciting" and said it
provided the first compelling evidence that dinosaurs were able to swim.
"The trackway at La Virgen del Campo opens the door to several new areas
of research," said Costeur.


"New biomechanical modelling will increase our understanding of dinosaur
physiology and physical capabilities, as well as our view of the
ecological niches in which they lived."
---
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6687129.stm


A picture and a sketch!!!!! Yayyyyy!!!!! I remember one of the dino
documentaries had a section on a dino swimming from one island to
another... nice to have confirmation that segment is not just possible,
but real!!!

Yep. Although if I were swimming I wouldn't want to encounter a T. Rex.
Sharks are bad enough (although almost certainly much better swimmers.)

Again - despite sand sharks - is why I live in the desert!! lol
The only way a human and a T. Rex would be swimming in the same sea is
if the Creationists are right - NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
--
De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Tracks suggest dinos could swim