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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah"
Date: 30 Dec 2003 02:07:59 PM
Object: Traditionalism
The Faith Of Life And Order
Tradition, Racialism and National Socialism
12/28/2003 12:10:26 AM
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Bill White
Commentary -- The Faith Of Life And Order Tradition, Racialism and National
Socialism
Traditionalism is the occult understanding of the ancient faiths of the
great civilizations. It is an understanding of the nature of the world as
one of conflict between two primordial forces - creation and destruction -
in which, after a long period of disintegration, where death appears to
dominate life, the life force reasserts itself, annihilating its opposition.
While these fundamental propositions are not in accordance with the crude
racialism of American white nationalism, they cannot be understood outside
of their racial implications.
The nature of the Life force - the force of creation - is one of Order. As
the Egyptian Pharoah Akhnaton once prayed, the God of Life and Order both
created the Earth's peoples and divided them by race - then separated them
and placed them in their own distinct portions of the world. A Christian who
believed in God's creation of the Earth would see it similarly - that the
divisions between men are part of God's creation, and thus to deny or
attempt to undo those divisions is a rejection of the divine majesty of
God - it is the sin of pride in the belief that man can arrange the Earth
better than the divinity himself.
The nature of the Death force - the force of destruction and
disintegration - is one of Chaos. As the Jew preaches and has preached, it
is the destruction of the Order of nature, and the disintegration of the
divisions between men, that is the essence of the faith of evil. The
Traditionalist sees the Jew as an occult force of hatred for Life and
Traditional humanity; the Christian sees the Jew as both the child of Satan
and the congregant of Satan's synagogue.
Within each race of man exists the same Order as exists between each race of
man. While the races of men are separated by geography, the Order within
each race is separated by caste - a division more fundamental than the
economic accidents of the Marxist Jewish concept of social class. Some
members of a race are the guardians of Tradition, whether intellectually as
a priest caste, or physically as a warrior caste.
Other members of the race conduct the practical business of material living,
either as merchants or as works. Within each race is also an out-caste - the
defectives of the race whose lives possess no character which give them
value, or whose actions sum to a net drain on society without any potential
of a net contribution.
Further, in the true society of Life and Order, the ultimate government of a
race or a people is entrusted to a living god - a man whose body is
possessed by the God-king of that race. The divine being uses the man's body
as his vehicle for communication with his people, and for providing his
wisdom is guiding the people's development upon the Earth.
The nature of the Death force is to confound and confuse these orders and
these divisions, first so as to cause the God-king to leave his people, and
second so as to cause the people to fall into progressively worse forms of
government. The Death force confounds the castes, and causes individuals
within the castes to see themselves not as men and women dedicated to the
performance of a particular function, but as individuals who have no
function other than that which they themselves determine.
By isolating in-caste individuals from the social whole, the Death force
pushes these individuals into the status of out- castes, though this type of
individual outside of their caste should be confused with those individuals
who are incapable of caste at all. The corrupted individual is capable of
production if they can be rescued from the Death force; the other type of
individual is incapable of ever contributing productively to the
continuation of Life and Order. The people of the Death force are the Jews
and all those who adhere to Jewish doctrines.
Besides the Jews, there are those people who have never possessed Tradition
or the civilization and culture which accompany it. On Earth, these people
are primarily the two people of Africa, Australia and Oceana, and those
peoples of the Americas and Asia which never developed beyond tribal
society. The major peoples of Tradition are the Northern Europeans (Germans,
Nordics and Celts), the Southern Europeans (Greco-Romans), the people of the
Middle East (from Babylon and Assyria to the modern people of Islam), the
Egyptians, the people of East Asia (China and Japan), the people of Southern
Asia (the Indians), and the people of Central America (the Mayans, Aztecs
and Incas).
Those who stand outside of those cultures and their derivatives and who are
not Jews are simply animals that never developed - they are blank slates who
played no role in the battle of Life and Death until those forces discovered
them in their primitive ignorance, and play a role only insofar as the
people of Tradition or Destruction use them for that purpose.
Left to themselves, the native peoples of Africa, Australia and the American
and Asian tribes would never have any meaningful role in the larger conflict
that defines existence. Because the nature of the Jew is to destroy, and
because those who adhere to or embrace Judaism or any of its derivatives are
inherently destructive by nature, those who follow the God of Life and Order
must live in conflict with the Jew until the time of the Jew's final
destruction in the battle of Ragnarok, or Armageddon.
Some outspoken Traditionalists today try to avoid this essential element by
misrepresenting the fundamental teachings of men like Julius Evola; this
practice is itself evidence that the influence of the God of Death extends
even to the minds of the Traditionally-oriented among modern men. While it
is true that there are elements among every race that are worthy of being
despised, either because of their defective nature or because of their
embrace of the culture of the destructive God, the only race of man that
willingly exists in the near universal service of the Death God is the Jew -
and that a man born into Judaism can only be redeemed by a fundamental
rejection of their inner nature - a process whose existence itself is
questionable.
Similarly, the argument that men are of different castes, or that some men
within every race are naturally defective, is used by some to argue that
there is no inherently racialist aspect to Tradition - that one would prefer
the company of an Indian Brahmin to that of a white sudra. While it is true
that the company of the Hindu Brahmin may be more intellectually
stimulating, and such a cultural exchange between people of Tradition should
be encouraged, it is the duty of the white religious caste to provide for,
to lead, and to protect the white worker.
The fact that there are caste divisions among white people, and that there
are people in other branches of Tradition that are natural leaders among
their people, does not invalidate the idea of Order, and its corollaries of
division, specialization and hierarchy, among the races of mankind. While it
may be true that it would be immoral for a white worker to presume to
dominate or fulfill the role of a Hindu Brahmin, that does not imply that
the Hindu Brahmin's role is one of domination of the white worker or make
any implication on the natural relationship between European and Indian
society.
White workers exist within a caste system with white priests, warriors and
merchants, and Hindu workers exist within a caste system with Hindu priests,
warriors and merchants. The two caste systems have a relationship between
them which defines the manner in which the individuals of the societies'
castes interact. National Socialism, as practiced by Adolf Hitler in the
Third Reich, is seen by many as the most recent manifestation of the rule of
the God of Order on Earth. Evola, it is true, had difficulty with the
worker-oriented nature of National Socialism, but those objections, to a
large degree, can be dismissed as a deficiency in Evola's understanding;
Evola, in his writings, is overly focused on his personal superiority to
others of his own race, rather than on his r le in a healthy Traditional
society in which others of his own race co- exist in different positions.
Evola saw the hierarchy of the castes as being a pecking order of domination
instead of a cooperative differentiation of function - it is a bit like the
old joke where the organs of the body come together and think themselves
more important than the *****, until one day the ***** decides to stop
working and the body dies. Even the "lowest" of the castes is as vital to
the functioning of the Traditional social body as the highest, and thus the
members of each caste must be respected within the context of their social
role - a worker who performs admirably as a worker is as respectable as a
rich merchant, a decorated warrior, or a wisened priest.
Part of Hitler's genius was his preaching of the integration of society into
a social whole where, while the divisions of warrior, worker and merchant
still existed, they existed in a complimentary, rather than oppositional,
manner. The Third Reich stressed the unity of all the people of the race and
nation, and worked to expel those elements which seeked to disrupt the
natural harmony that occurs when people of all social roles struggle
together for the common end. Hitler's rise and fall is seen as a fulfillment
of prophecy.
One of the God- king's Traditional names is He-Who-Comes-Back. The God of
Order is to return in different manifestations during the Kali Yuga -- the
Age of the Death God - to remind those men and women who adhere to Tradition
that the time of the final battle is coming. In the past, men such as
Genghis Khan have appeared on Earth as the physical manifestations of the
Life God and his pantheon - Genghis Khan's role was the manifestation of the
Life God as a destroyer of wicked men.
Adolf Hitler was an avatar of the God of Order who appeared to rally men to
the old faith in preparation for the God of Order's final coming. The
individual existences of the men and women who live in the way of the God of
Life and Order have meaning only insofar as their personal existences
contribute to the larger construct whose life is eternal; the spirits of
those men and women who struggle for Tradition are eternal and are subject
to perpetual reincarnation as their spirits are needed by the Life God later
in the cycles. The idea of reincarnation, whether once as a warrior from
Valhalla who is brought back at the final battle, or perpetually as part of
the soul's development and enlightenment, is fundamental to the
Traditionalist worldview.
However, reincarnation is not universal - those peoples who exist without
souls, such as the Jews, and those people who do not perform their
obligations to their larger social construct die without resurrection, and
their life-force dissipates and is destroyed. This idea is best captured in
the Norse view of Hel and the Greek view of Hades as places where the souls
of those who did not excel were sent to exist in eternal nothingness. Some
could argue that men who do not perform their proper caste roles, like the
Jews and the servants of Death, never possess souls at all - that while the
number of souls was fixed at a finite number at the beginning of time, the
number of soulless walking corpses have grown substantially.
The God who comes back returns to Earth periodically to give hope to the men
and women of the Traditional faith. Though there is an inherent hostility to
Christianity within much of the current body of Traditionalist thought, I
believe that both Jesus Christ and Mohammed can be brought within this world
view, as can men like the aforementioned Adolf Hitler, Genghis Khan and
Akhnaton, and many others whose manifestations on Earth have fundamentally
altered the relationships between Life and Death. I do not believe that the
misguided and decadent followers of Christ in the United States - followers
who embrace the Jew and the God of Death at every opportunity, and who spit
on Life, Order and the love and health of the world - can be held against
the teacher himself.
Further, the fact of conflict between the adherents of a Traditionalist
teacher and other Traditional cultures is not prima facae evidence that the
new teacher is a manifestation of the Death God; Genghis Khan destroyed the
decadent Traditional cultures he encountered simply because they were so
withered by the Death God that they needed to be destroyed so that creation
could again spring up amongst them. Similarly - the fact that the teachings
of Christ were propagated in a decadent and destructive form among the
Romans, who had already been possessed by decadence and destruction, or that
Charlemagne destroyed the healthy paganism of the Germans in the name of
Christ - does not inherently eliminate any Traditionalist understanding of
the Christian teachings.
Some Christian teachings - such as the teaching that there is no God other
than the Jewish God the Christians attempted to inherit - and most of the
Jewish teachings wrapped around Christ's life, must, however, be rejected
out of hand. As adherents of a Life-oriented worldview, the individual
Traditionalist accepts certain ritualistic taboos as evidence of adherence
to the faith. Savitri Devi has proposed abstinence from the consumption of
meat as a taboo to demonstrate that one believes in the destruction only of
unhealthy Life, which is inedible because it is tainted.
Because the Death Force exists to corrupt and destroy healthy life and
healthy existence, one refrains from the destruction of all healthy
creatures. By refraining from eating meat, one is reminded not only of the
duty to protect the innocent, but of the duty to kill and punish the wicked
and the unjust. By integrating the taboo into one's daily life, one is given
a constant reminder of this duty - much as the Muslim habit of
five-times-daily prayer is a constant reminder of his submission to God.
By understanding the world as being the stage where a conflict between good
and evil - Creation and Destruction - is being played out, the
Traditionalist has a higher understanding of the nature of men and natural
forces, and is better equipped to contribute to the world and to claim his
place in the Hall of the Gods, awaiting reincarnation to participate in
future battles for the health of the world. The Traditionalist knows what
the petty materialist intellectuals of modern times do not, and thus can
understand the behavior of the Jew in politics and finance in a way that men
who utilize economic analysis with the assumption that there are no
significant differences in the nature of the races of man cannot.
The Traditionalist can see the wickedness of the followers of the Death God
and knows they pursue that wickedness even if it causes them material
adversity, while the class analyst or the analyst of the petty politics of
conservatism and liberalism remains shocked without proper explanation of
their behavior. The Traditionalist knows that the Death God and his servants
intend to consume the world, while the capitalist, communist, conservative
or liberal believes that the world will continue ever and on, and that the
way the world is in the modern age is the way the world always has been.
The Traditionalist brings tens if not hundreds of thousands of years of
religious teaching with him, while the petty intellectual has only the data
of the past century, if that, to analyze. Traditionalism is the only view of
mankind that adequately explains the events of the current age and the means
by which humanity can be rescued and the world's human relationships can be
made whole. Traditionalism predicts future events while adequately
explaining the past, and does so in the most simple fashion. It is the faith
of Life and Order, and it is the only faith from which an intelligent and
healthy racial and social outlook can be formed - an outlook which gives
each people their proper place and which only opposes those elements of the
races which attempt to corrupt or destroy the position in the natural order
which each race occupies.
http://www.overthrow.com/lsn/news.asp?articleID=6421
--
Pro-War religious fanatics in government:
Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Lieberman, Ridge, Cheney and
Bush
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Traditionalism 30 Dec 2003 03:44:34 PM
And so upon Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:07:59 +0000 didst Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah
speak thusly:

The Faith Of Life And Order
Tradition, Racialism and National Socialism

Damn. Did somebody start a gibberish contest?
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
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User: "Rv Cloim"

Title: Re: Traditionalism 30 Dec 2003 08:00:14 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:44:34 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

And so upon Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:07:59 +0000 didst Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah
speak thusly:

The Faith Of Life And Order
Tradition, Racialism and National Socialism


Damn. Did somebody start a gibberish contest?

Yes.
And I'm afraid your entry is too intelligible to qualify.
Sorry. Better luck next time...
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Traditionalism 30 Dec 2003 11:30:14 PM
And so upon Wed, 31 Dec 2003 02:00:14 +0000 didst Rv Cloim speak thusly:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:44:34 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

And so upon Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:07:59 +0000 didst Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah
speak thusly:

The Faith Of Life And Order
Tradition, Racialism and National Socialism


Damn. Did somebody start a gibberish contest?


Yes.

And I'm afraid your entry is too intelligible to qualify.

Sorry. Better luck next time...

Damn. Lost again.
Oh, wait, I have some Perl snippets handy...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
"There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels."
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Traditionalism 01 Jan 2004 12:02:11 AM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 23:30:14 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo" <noem@il.huh>
posted to alt.atheism:

And so upon Wed, 31 Dec 2003 02:00:14 +0000 didst Rv Cloim speak thusly:

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 15:44:34 -0600, Mark K. Bilbo wrote:

And so upon Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:07:59 +0000 didst Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah
speak thusly:

The Faith Of Life And Order
Tradition, Racialism and National Socialism


Damn. Did somebody start a gibberish contest?


Yes.

And I'm afraid your entry is too intelligible to qualify.

Sorry. Better luck next time...


Damn. Lost again.

Oh, wait, I have some Perl snippets handy...

That'll only work if Perl is a fundy. (And can't spell her own name.)
--
"We should do unto others as we would want them to do unto us. If I were an unborn
fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
- "Pro-Life" doctor killer and corpse Paul Hill
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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User: "raven1"

Title: Re: Traditionalism 30 Dec 2003 02:16:30 PM
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:07:59 GMT, "Ahn Fyuh Wi Dizayah"
<ahn-fyuh-wi-dizayah@thegreatslashtubitch.org> wrote:
<snip>
Stop posting this crap to alt.atheism.
---
ROT-13 on Email to reply.
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