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12 Oct 2006 04:49:29 AM |
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An American al Qaeda propagandist was indicted
Wednesday on treason charges, the first person charged with the offense
during the United States' war on terrorism, officials said.
Adam Yahiye Gadahn, who has appeared in five al Qaeda videos, is also
charged with offering material support for terrorism, U.S. Deputy
Attorney General Paul McNulty said.
He has been put on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list, and the State
Department is offering a $1 million reward for information leading to
his arrest and conviction.
The 28-year-old California native is the first American to face the
charge since the World War II era, McNulty said.
"A charge of treason is exceptionally severe, and it is not one we
bring lightly," McNulty said at a news conference in Washington. "But
this is the right case for this charge."
If apprehended and convicted, Gadahn could face the death penalty.
Nicknamed "Azzam the American," Gadahn is not in U.S. custody and is
believed to be living in Pakistan, McNulty said.
McNulty said he believes that Gadahn has been involved in issuing
propaganda but not in carrying out any terrorist attacks. (Watch how
Gadahn came to be indicted for al Qaeda ties -- 1:59 )
Threat issued
Gadahn has appeared in several al Qaeda messages speaking English and
appealing to Americans.
In his latest video appearance, Gadahn called for the world to convert
to Islam and praised the hijackers who carried out the September 11,
2001, attacks as "dedicated, strong-willed, highly motivated
individuals with a burning concern for Islam and Muslims."
That video, issued days before the fifth anniversary of 9/11, featured
both Gadahn and Osama bin Laden's second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri.
In a September 2005 video, Gadahn referred to the 9/11 attacks as "the
blessed raids on New York and Washington." According to the indictment,
Gadahn, referring to prior attacks in Europe, said, "Yesterday, London
and Madrid. Tomorrow, Los Angeles and Melbourne, Allah willing. And
this time, don't count on us demonstrating restraint or compassion."
The FBI first put out an alert on Gadahn in 2004, saying he was "being
sought in connection with possible terrorist threats against the United
States," although the agency said it had "no information indicating
this individual is connected to any specific terrorist activities."
FBI Director Robert Mueller last month said Gadahn was of "significant"
importance to al Qaeda as a spokesman.
"People have seen his face. It's going to be very difficult for him to
become an operative. But he is a contributor," Mueller said.
The charge of treason is rarely used because, in order to win a
conviction, the Constitution requires testimony from "two witnesses to
the same overt act," or a confession.
While McNulty would not discuss the evidence against Gadahn in detail,
he said prosecutors were "very confident" they could meet the
requirement for two witnesses, noting that "a number of individuals"
could identify Gadahn as the person speaking in the al Qaeda videos.
California roots
Wednesday's indictment was handed down by a federal grand jury in Santa
Ana, California. Gadahn's last known address in the United States was
in Orange County, California.
Gadahn grew up in Riverside County, California, on a goat farm. His
father was a rock guitarist before starting the farm with his wife.
Gadahn left when he was a teenager, according to his father. After a
heavy-metal rock phase, he turned to Islam in 1995 and wrote about it
on the Internet.
"As I began reading English translations of the Quran, I became more
and more convinced of the truth and authenticity of Allah's teachings
contained in those 114 chapters."
Gadahn's call on Americans to convert came with an explicit warning of
what would happen if his call went unheeded.
"Anyone who pays any attention to the messages of the leaders of the
jihad, like Sheik Osama bin Laden and Sheik Ayman al-Zawahiri, may God
protect them, will know that they have been consistent in inviting the
Americans and other unbelievers to Islam and in pressing upon them that
they want the best for them. And making it clear to all that we have no
choice but to fight those who fight us," Gadahn said.
Gadahn's family had no comment about the latest tape. In the past, his
father has said Gadahn moved to Pakistan in 1998 and that the family
lost touch with him in 2002.
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| User: "Ghod" |
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12 Oct 2006 01:29:27 PM |
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"HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1160646569.508752.97660@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An American al Qaeda propagandist was indicted
Wednesday on treason charges, the first person charged with the
offense
during the United States' war on terrorism, officials said.
Adam Yahiye Gadahn, who has appeared in five al Qaeda videos, is
also
charged with offering material support for terrorism, U.S. Deputy
Attorney General Paul McNulty said.
He has been put on the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists list, and the
State
Department is offering a $1 million reward for information leading
to
his arrest and conviction.
The 28-year-old California native is the first American to face the
charge since the World War II era, McNulty said.
"A charge of treason is exceptionally severe, and it is not one we
bring lightly," McNulty said at a news conference in Washington.
"But
this is the right case for this charge."
Interesting way it's stated here...."the right case for this
charge"....makes it sound as though they worked hard to find a case
that the charge applies to.
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| User: "Mark D J. Mark D" |
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12 Oct 2006 01:36:12 PM |
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"Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote in message news:
Interesting way it's stated here...."the right case for this
charge"....makes it sound as though they worked hard to find a case
that the charge applies to.
Yup. 'Pour encourager les autres', as we of the French Foreign Legion used
to say.
'Treason' is a powerful word: they want the whole population to start
thinking about using it.
M.
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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12 Oct 2006 08:50:38 AM |
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On 12 Oct 2006 02:49:29 -0700, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
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Nicknamed "Azzam the American," Gadahn is not in U.S. custody and is
believed to be living in Pakistan, McNulty said.
McNulty said he believes that Gadahn has been involved in issuing
propaganda but not in carrying out any terrorist attacks. (Watch how
Gadahn came to be indicted for al Qaeda ties -- 1:59 )
If apprehended and convicted, Gadahn could face the death penalty.
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So much for free speech, liberty and truth ...
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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12 Oct 2006 07:40:51 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:50:38 +0200 "Charles D. Bohne"
<me@PasoSchweiz.de> said the following in alt.atheism and I was
immediately reminded of 1,000 Chinchillas singing Handel's "Messiah"
for some reason...
On 12 Oct 2006 02:49:29 -0700, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
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Nicknamed "Azzam the American," Gadahn is not in U.S. custody and is
believed to be living in Pakistan, McNulty said.
McNulty said he believes that Gadahn has been involved in issuing
propaganda but not in carrying out any terrorist attacks. (Watch how
Gadahn came to be indicted for al Qaeda ties -- 1:59 )
If apprehended and convicted, Gadahn could face the death penalty.
...
So much for free speech, liberty and truth ...
Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution: Article III,
Section 3: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in
levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them
Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the
Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in
open Court.
Mr. Gadahn has clearly and visibly declared his membership in al
Qaeda, and organization that has declared war on, and attacked the
United States.
The Freedom of Speech is not absolute. I cannot call the Republican
National Committee and tell them a bomb is in the building. That is a
felony. Likewise, slander and libel are not protected speech.
Mr. Gadahn has chosen his side, and will have to live with that
decision.
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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13 Oct 2006 05:56:19 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:40:51 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Mr. Gadahn has clearly and visibly declared his membership in al
Qaeda, and organization that has declared war on, and attacked the
United States.
There is no al Qa'ida, so how could he be a "member"?
C.
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| User: "www.infowars.com" |
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12 Oct 2006 10:02:30 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:40:51 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
Treason is the only crime defined in the Constitution <snip>
The Constitution is passe. Just a goddamned piece of paper, and the laws
are all now illegal.
Anarchy.
Whom ever has the biggest bombs wins. ;)
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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12 Oct 2006 11:43:34 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:50:38 +0200, in alt.atheism , "Charles D.
Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de> in
<9rhsi2pmiecodiomkn84pfht7emeieavgi@pasoschweiz.de> wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 02:49:29 -0700, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
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Nicknamed "Azzam the American," Gadahn is not in U.S. custody and is
believed to be living in Pakistan, McNulty said.
McNulty said he believes that Gadahn has been involved in issuing
propaganda but not in carrying out any terrorist attacks. (Watch how
Gadahn came to be indicted for al Qaeda ties -- 1:59 )
If apprehended and convicted, Gadahn could face the death penalty.
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So much for free speech, liberty and truth ...
There is no blanket free speech protection: there are many ways that
speech can be a crime. He is not merely presenting approval to a POV,
he is directly working for a clear enemy.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Ghod" |
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12 Oct 2006 01:32:43 PM |
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"Matt Silberstein" <RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote
in message news:43ssi2lg7qc5untlc6m5bs6glrs7vgm4al@4ax.com...
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 15:50:38 +0200, in alt.atheism , "Charles D.
Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de> in
<9rhsi2pmiecodiomkn84pfht7emeieavgi@pasoschweiz.de> wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 02:49:29 -0700, "HVAC" <MR.HVAC@gmail.com> wrote:
...
Nicknamed "Azzam the American," Gadahn is not in U.S. custody and
is
believed to be living in Pakistan, McNulty said.
McNulty said he believes that Gadahn has been involved in issuing
propaganda but not in carrying out any terrorist attacks. (Watch
how
Gadahn came to be indicted for al Qaeda ties -- 1:59 )
If apprehended and convicted, Gadahn could face the death penalty.
...
So much for free speech, liberty and truth ...
There is no blanket free speech protection: there are many ways that
speech can be a crime. He is not merely presenting approval to a
POV,
he is directly working for a clear enemy.
Assuming Gadahn really is the guy in the videos (I'm not saying he
isn't), he has actually declared himself to be an enemy of the
state....not just working for an enemy.
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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12 Oct 2006 01:53:49 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:32:43 -0500, "Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote:
Assuming Gadahn really is the guy in the videos (I'm not saying he
isn't), he has actually declared himself to be an enemy of the
state....not just working for an enemy.
Yes, that's exactly what "free speech" is about.
The freedom to say a tyrant that he is a tyrant.
The "freedom" to support Bush is no big deal.
C.
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| User: "www.infowars.com" |
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12 Oct 2006 09:54:32 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:53:49 +0200, "Charles D. Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de>
wrote:
The "freedom" to support Bush is no big deal.
We support bush.
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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13 Oct 2006 05:53:03 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:54:32 GMT, www.infowars.com <truth@r.us> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:53:49 +0200, "Charles D. Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de>
wrote:
The "freedom" to support Bush is no big deal.
We support bush.
We?
C.
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| User: "www.infowars.com" |
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13 Oct 2006 08:30:40 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:53:03 +0200, "Charles D. Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de>
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 02:54:32 GMT, www.infowars.com <truth@r.us> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:53:49 +0200, "Charles D. Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de>
wrote:
The "freedom" to support Bush is no big deal.
We support bush.
We?
Bush is a parasite.
C.
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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13 Oct 2006 08:55:32 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:30:40 GMT, www.infowars.com <truth@r.us> wrote:
Bush is a parasite.
Bush is a straw, and you know that.
C.
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| User: "www.infowars.com" |
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13 Oct 2006 09:07:29 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:55:32 +0200, "Charles D. Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de>
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:30:40 GMT, www.infowars.com <truth@r.us> wrote:
Bush is a parasite.
Bush is a straw, and you know that.
Right now Bush is controlling the CIA.
C.
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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13 Oct 2006 09:19:01 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:07:29 GMT, www.infowars.com <truth@r.us> wrote:
Right now Bush is controlling the CIA.
That's what everybody thinks... but look
for the "majestic 11!" (Numer 12 got killed
in 1954 ;-)
C.
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| User: "Matt Silberstein" |
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12 Oct 2006 06:32:53 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 20:53:49 +0200, in alt.atheism , "Charles D.
Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de> in
<vl3ti21u1o54h8pcss9kio39s5tr4dfgnu@pasoschweiz.de> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:32:43 -0500, "Ghod" <ghod@ameritech.net> wrote:
Assuming Gadahn really is the guy in the videos (I'm not saying he
isn't), he has actually declared himself to be an enemy of the
state....not just working for an enemy.
Yes, that's exactly what "free speech" is about.
The freedom to say a tyrant that he is a tyrant.
The "freedom" to support Bush is no big deal.
And the freedom to oppose Shrub exists. He did not say he did not like
Shrub, he did not say he did not like the Republican Party, he worked
to further the aims of an organization that not only has declared war
on the U.S. but has acted to attack and kill Americans, but military
and civilian. I can despise Shrub and still see Al Qaeda as an enemy.
If you have lost that ability I feel sorry for you.
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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12 Oct 2006 06:52:52 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:32:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
And the freedom to oppose Shrub exists. He did not say he did not like
Shrub, he did not say he did not like the Republican Party, he worked
to further the aims of an organization that not only has declared war
on the U.S. but has acted to attack and kill Americans, but military
and civilian. I can despise Shrub and still see Al Qaeda as an enemy.
If you have lost that ability I feel sorry for you.
I prefer to call "Shrub" George Walker Bush :-)
And the one you know as Osama bin Laden works for him.
So where is you problem?
C.
P.S.: al-Qa'ida (The Base) is a myth. It's a mixture of US-OPS
and some stupid frustrated people all around the planet.
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| User: "Art Deco" |
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12 Oct 2006 08:07:02 PM |
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Charles D. Bohne <me@PasoSchweiz.de> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:32:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
And the freedom to oppose Shrub exists. He did not say he did not like
Shrub, he did not say he did not like the Republican Party, he worked
to further the aims of an organization that not only has declared war
on the U.S. but has acted to attack and kill Americans, but military
and civilian. I can despise Shrub and still see Al Qaeda as an enemy.
If you have lost that ability I feel sorry for you.
In Chu*k's case all rational considerations are overwhelmed by his deep
and abiding hatred of America and Americans
I prefer to call "Shrub" George Walker Bush :-)
And the one you know as Osama bin Laden works for him.
So where is you problem?
You're still an idiot, Chu*k. Any evidence for this delusion?
C.
P.S.: al-Qa'ida (The Base) is a myth. It's a mixture of US-OPS
and some stupid frustrated people all around the planet.
See above.
--
COOSN-266-06-39716
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official "Usenet psychopath and born-again LLPOF minion",
as designated by Brad Guth
"Who is "David Tholen", Daedalus? Still suffering from
attribution problems?"
-- Dr. David Tholen
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12 Oct 2006 10:46:54 PM |
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"Art Deco" <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote in message news:
P.S.: al-Qa'ida (The Base) is a myth. It's a mixture of US-OPS
and some stupid frustrated people all around the planet.
Absolutely right. People can see how the expedient bogey-man was created by
watching these:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1002626006461047517
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2839463332690200955
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3649090417189127240
M.
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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13 Oct 2006 05:45:58 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:07:02 -0600, Art Deco <erfc@netcabal.com>
wrote:
In Chu*k's case all rational considerations are overwhelmed by his deep
and abiding hatred of America and Americans
You can always sue me for "treason" :-)
I prefer to call "Shrub" George Walker Bush :-)
And the one you know as Osama bin Laden works for him.
So where is you problem?
You're still an idiot, Chu*k. Any evidence for this delusion?
What a compliment from an idiot like you. And yes, there is
evidence abound.
P.S.: al-Qa'ida (The Base) is a myth. It's a mixture of US-OPS
and some stupid frustrated people all around the planet.
See above.
Fanatic Islamists aren't half as dangerous as people like YOU in
their special stubborn beliefs.
C.
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| User: "mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges" |
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13 Oct 2006 05:50:55 AM |
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In article <mbrui2pjh5ev8p358cssrhqaqoboe4dc6s@pasoschweiz.de>,
"Charles D. Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:07:02 -0600, Art Deco <erfc@netcabal.com>
wrote:
In Chu*k's case all rational considerations are overwhelmed by his deep
and abiding hatred of America and Americans
You can always sue me for "treason" :-)
I prefer to call "Shrub" George Walker Bush :-)
And the one you know as Osama bin Laden works for him.
So where is you problem?
You're still an idiot, Chu*k. Any evidence for this delusion?
What a compliment from an idiot like you. And yes, there is
evidence abound.
P.S.: al-Qa'ida (The Base) is a myth. It's a mixture of US-OPS
and some stupid frustrated people all around the planet.
See above.
Fanatic Islamists aren't half as dangerous as people like YOU in
their special stubborn beliefs.
i like people who tell me theyre an enemy
instead of pretending to be a friend
oh look its you again
meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
there can only be one or two - the airtight garage has you neo
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13 Oct 2006 06:35:21 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 03:50:55 -0700, mariposas rand mair fheal
greykitten tomys des anges <mair_fheal@yahoo.com> wrote:
Fanatic Islamists aren't half as dangerous as people like YOU in
their special stubborn beliefs.
i like people who tell me theyre an enemy
instead of pretending to be a friend
I have no living enemies.
I don't consider you an enemy.
But I don't have any reason to regard you as a friend,
so what did you intend to say?
oh look its you again
Yes it's me. As a matter of fact, I have no intention
to become someone else.
C.
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12 Oct 2006 10:01:01 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:07:02 -0600, Art Deco <erfc@netcabal.com> wrote:
deep
and abiding hatred of America and Americans
Is it a one-government world, or a one world America?
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12 Oct 2006 10:06:38 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 01:52:52 +0200, "Charles D. Bohne" <me@PasoSchweiz.de>
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 23:32:53 GMT, Matt Silberstein
<RemoveThisPrefixmatts2nospam@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
And the freedom to oppose Shrub exists. He did not say he did not like
Shrub, he did not say he did not like the Republican Party, he worked
to further the aims of an organization that not only has declared war
on the U.S. but has acted to attack and kill Americans, but military
and civilian. I can despise Shrub and still see Al Qaeda as an enemy.
If you have lost that ability I feel sorry for you.
I prefer to call "Shrub" George Walker Bush :-)
And the one you know as Osama bin Laden works for him.
So where is you problem?
The USA lost its world image, including with the americans.
The vast majority of Americans recognize that America has been ruined, taken
over by fascists who just can't kill enough Americans.
C.
P.S.: al-Qa'ida (The Base) is a myth. It's a mixture of US-OPS
and some stupid frustrated people all around the planet.
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| User: "Charles D. Bohne" |
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13 Oct 2006 05:51:52 AM |
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On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 03:06:38 GMT, www.infowars.com <truth@r.us> wrote:
The USA lost its world image, including with the americans.
True
The vast majority of Americans recognize that America has been ruined, taken
over by fascists who just can't kill enough Americans.
They make no difference as to who to kill :-((
C.
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12 Oct 2006 06:35:03 PM |
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Matt Silberstein wrote:
There is no blanket free speech protection: there are
many ways that speech can be a crime.
Exposing a deep undercover CIA operative during a time
of war, for example.
Get the rope!
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| User: "www.infowars.com" |
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12 Oct 2006 10:05:13 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2006 16:35:03 -0700, "JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
There is no blanket free speech protection: there are
many ways that speech can be a crime.
Exposing a deep undercover CIA operative during a time
of war, for example.
but the CIA is trafficking illegal drugs all over the world.
Get the rope!
Hang the CIA.
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12 Oct 2006 10:54:29 PM |
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www.infowars.com wrote:
"JTEM" <jtem01@gmail.com> wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
There is no blanket free speech protection: there are
many ways that speech can be a crime.
Exposing a deep undercover CIA operative during a time
of war, for example.
but the CIA is trafficking illegal drugs all over the world.
Well the CIA has people who specialize in specific areas
of expertise. Valerie Plame, for example, was working to
keep WMDs out of the hands of rogue states and terrorists
when the Republicans outed her and operations.
It would be an entirely different department that handles the
drug smuggling, the UFO cover-ups and faking celebrity
deaths.
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| Title: Re: Traitor |
12 Oct 2006 11:13:14 PM |
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On 12 Oct 2006 20:54:29 -0700, wrote:
www.infowars.com wrote:
"JTEM" < > wrote:
Matt Silberstein wrote:
There is no blanket free speech protection: there are
many ways that speech can be a crime.
Exposing a deep undercover CIA operative during a time
of war, for example.
but the CIA is trafficking illegal drugs all over the world.
Well the CIA has people who specialize in specific areas
of expertise. Valerie Plame, for example, was working to
keep WMDs out of the hands of rogue states and terrorists
when the Republicans outed her and operations.
If there's anyone working for the CIA who isn't aware of their illegal drug
trafficking, then they're stupid and can't read. It's been documented for
decades.
And as far as Plame, do you think the Neocons or Bush have any regard for
the CIA criminals?
If you do, then think again. They're dirty and in Bush's mind if he kills a
few criminals, they deserve it.
It would be an entirely different department that handles the
drug smuggling, the UFO cover-ups and faking celebrity
deaths.
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| Title: Re: Traitor |
13 Oct 2006 01:42:07 AM |
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www.infowars.com wrote:
If there's anyone working for the CIA who isn't aware
of their illegal drug trafficking, then they're stupid and
can't read.
No I think they're just busy covering up the UFOs and
faking celebrity deaths.
It's been documented for decades.
Yes. Of course.
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