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Religions > Atheism |
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"J Young" |
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25 Mar 2006 11:06:23 PM |
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Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
This blame for this frivilous lawsuit lies squarely on the shoulders of the
LLL (Looney Liberal Left). How does a child molester make any demands upon
society for anything? The state should remain steadfast in it's refusal to
pay for this operation OR to move this pervert to a women's prison. Let
*him* rot where *he* is.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_3633830
Prisoner believes he belongs in women's facility; state says it won't pay
for "elective care"
With B-cup-sized breasts, a feminine gait and long, curly hair, Christopher
"Kitty" Grey causes a stir every time the inmate enters a cellblock.
But instead of reveling in the attention as he is moved from prison to
prison, Grey, who is serving 16 years to life for molesting an 8-year-old
girl for five years, said he cringes every time he hears the whistles and
catcalls.
"For all intents and purposes, I am a woman in a man's prison," Grey said
during a recent interview at the Limon Correctional Facility. "That's like
putting a cat in a dog kennel."
The transgendered inmate said he belongs in a women's prison, but, by state
policy, he can't because he has male genitalia.
Grey believes Colorado has a constitutional obligation to perform a
sex-change operation on him so he can go to a women's prison. He's filed a
lawsuit against the state, demanding he be given a psychologist who is a
gender specialist.
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" The truth shall set you free "
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
25 Mar 2006 11:40:36 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
This blame for this frivilous lawsuit lies squarely on the shoulders of the
LLL (Looney Liberal Left). How does a child molester make any demands upon
society for anything? The state should remain steadfast in it's refusal to
pay for this operation OR to move this pervert to a women's prison. Let
*him* rot where *he* is.
Actually you should blame it on people like James Madison, who helped
draft a constitution that instituted the rule of law and quaint
concepts such as due process instead of rule by J. Young.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
25 Mar 2006 11:57:54 PM |
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No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
This blame for this frivilous lawsuit lies squarely on the shoulders of the
LLL (Looney Liberal Left). How does a child molester make any demands upon
society for anything? The state should remain steadfast in it's refusal to
pay for this operation OR to move this pervert to a women's prison. Let
*him* rot where *he* is.
Actually you should blame it on people like James Madison, who helped
draft a constitution that instituted the rule of law and quaint
concepts such as due process instead of rule by J. Young.
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are transgrendered.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not going
to win this suit.
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 12:31:15 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> writes:
No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
This blame for this frivilous lawsuit lies squarely on the
shoulders of the LLL (Looney Liberal Left). How does a child
molester make any demands upon society for anything? The state
should remain steadfast in it's refusal to pay for this
operation OR to move this pervert to a women's prison. Let *him*
rot where *he* is.
Actually you should blame it on people like James Madison, who helped
draft a constitution that instituted the rule of law and quaint
concepts such as due process instead of rule by J. Young.
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are transgrendered.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not going
to win this suit.
Well, what J. Young is complaining about is that the guy exercised
his constitutional right to petition his government for the redress
of grievances, and we have to grant inmates that right because otherwise
innocent people inadvertently imprisoned would never have a change to
get out. The right to petition, however, is not qualified by what
J. Young thinks is a reasonable request.
I'd be surprised if the state paid for a sex change operation, but I
wouldn't fault the guy for asking or whine on usenet because he asked.
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| User: "fuckyourfakewarforoilcorporations" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 12:43:59 AM |
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J YOUNG IS A ***** WHO CARES WHAT HE THINKS, I FUCKED HIS WIFE
YESTERDAY
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 12:00:14 AM |
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In article <1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
No One wrote:
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
This blame for this frivilous lawsuit lies squarely on the shoulders of
the
LLL (Looney Liberal Left). How does a child molester make any demands upon
society for anything? The state should remain steadfast in it's refusal to
pay for this operation OR to move this pervert to a women's prison. Let
*him* rot where *he* is.
Actually you should blame it on people like James Madison, who helped
draft a constitution that instituted the rule of law and quaint
concepts such as due process instead of rule by J. Young.
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to spend your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your sexual
fantasies.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew that,
right Osprey?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
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| User: "J Young" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 12:05:40 AM |
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"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to spend your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't be
obsessed, would you?
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve punishment for his
crime. He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 12:20:12 AM |
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In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to spend your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail address, so a
couple e-mailed me. Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy scouts, and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve punishment for his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
Yeah - and if he gets beat up or killed, he had it coming, right?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
No - he plays lawyer.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 12:24:53 AM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to spend your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail address, so a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy scouts, and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve punishment for his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
Yeah - and if he gets beat up or killed, he had it coming, right?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
No - he plays lawyer.
No, YOU play lawyer. I am sharing knowledge from actual experience
from a career field you know nothing about.
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| User: "Dysperdis" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 12:46:57 AM |
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"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
Except, you know, statistically, deterrence doesn't work worth *****. Among
offenders aged 18-25, for example, there is a recidivism rate of around 60%,
and over 70% of those have multiple prior convictions.
And while the prison doesn't owe *her* free SRS (none of us can petition
them for it, why should she be able to?), *she* should be kept away from the
other inmates, lest *she* be raped or killed.
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I'm here, I'm Queer, Now Gimme a Beer.
t(^_^t)
-Sean, the bio-girl genderfuck lesbian
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 01:24:11 AM |
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Dysperdis wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
Except, you know, statistically, deterrence doesn't work worth *****. Among
offenders aged 18-25, for example, there is a recidivism rate of around 60%,
and over 70% of those have multiple prior convictions.
There are many theories about this and we could spend countless hours.
Some rehabilitation programs work, many don't.
There are two types of deterrence.
Specific and General.
Specific deterrence is when the court's punish you. It's supposed to
deter you from committing further criminal acts.
General is supposed to show others, through your punishment, what could
happen if they decide to do the same thing.
Is it perfect? No
Does it always work? No
But it is one of the four functions of our correctional system.
And while the prison doesn't owe *her* free SRS (none of us can petition
them for it, why should she be able to?), *she* should be kept away from the
other inmates, lest *she* be raped or killed.
That's a matter of classification. And a person can recommend to be
placed in PC if they feel their life is in danger; however, I know a
few transgender inmates in general population and they do just fine.
--
I'm here, I'm Queer, Now Gimme a Beer.
t(^_^t)
-Sean, the bio-girl genderfuck lesbian
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 10:58:09 AM |
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In article <1143357851.380254.230900@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
Dysperdis wrote:
"osprey" <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote in message
news:1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
Except, you know, statistically, deterrence doesn't work worth *****. Among
offenders aged 18-25, for example, there is a recidivism rate of around 60%,
and over 70% of those have multiple prior convictions.
There are many theories about this and we could spend countless hours.
LOL! Not with you!
Some rehabilitation programs work, many don't.
There are two types of deterrence.
Specific and General.
Osprey is trying to impress and obfuscate.
Specific deterrence is when the court's punish you. It's supposed to
deter you from committing further criminal acts.
General is supposed to show others, through your punishment, what could
happen if they decide to do the same thing.
Is it perfect? No
Does it always work? No
But it is one of the four functions of our correctional system.
Notice how he ducked the question and instead gave a standard "answer"
he learned in junior college.
And while the prison doesn't owe *her* free SRS (none of us can petition
them for it, why should she be able to?), *she* should be kept away from the
other inmates, lest *she* be raped or killed.
That's a matter of classification.
Again, he ducks the issue.
And a person can recommend to be
placed in PC if they feel their life is in danger; however, I know a
few transgender inmates in general population and they do just fine.
So you never got around to addressing the issue.
--
I'm here, I'm Queer, Now Gimme a Beer.
t(^_^t)
-Sean, the bio-girl genderfuck lesbian
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| User: "Miriam Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 08:46:54 AM |
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osprey LIED:
I
"One last note: I am very surprised at your reaction especially after
just a few short months ago I provided a copy of my DD214 Right in
box 18...1st line it says... SERVED 2 AUG 90 TO 1 OCT 94 IN SUPPORT
OF OPERATION DESERT SHIELD/STORM and in box 13 NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE
MEDAL Funny how you have selective memory, why? Yes, I served in combat
during Desert Storm."
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.abortion/msg/38f5de5691243868?dmode=source&hl=en
"Fine, if you want to play on words...no I was not in actual "combat" "
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/db12fe6b6ec66a35?dmode=source&hl=en
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 12:30:58 AM |
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In article <1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to spend your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail address, so a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy scouts, and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve punishment for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
Yeah - and if he gets beat up or killed, he had it coming, right?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
No - he plays lawyer.
No, YOU play lawyer. I am sharing knowledge from actual experience
from a career field you know nothing about.
Sure thing. And I pointed out you were irresponsible.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 01:21:01 AM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to spend your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail address, so a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy scouts, and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve punishment for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts. So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
Yeah - and if he gets beat up or killed, he had it coming, right?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
No - he plays lawyer.
No, YOU play lawyer. I am sharing knowledge from actual experience
from a career field you know nothing about.
Sure thing. And I pointed out you were irresponsible.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 10:58:08 AM |
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In article <1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail address, so a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
IL'' make it easy on you. Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
How, in your wildest imagination, could you possibly know what you say
is true?
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy scouts, and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew
that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve punishment
for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts.
Moron. What is the "punishment" if what you say is true?
So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
I clearly know more about it than you.
He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
Yeah - and if he gets beat up or killed, he had it coming, right?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not
going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
No - he plays lawyer.
No, YOU play lawyer. I am sharing knowledge from actual experience
from a career field you know nothing about.
Sure thing. And I pointed out you were irresponsible.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 07:48:25 PM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article <1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail address, so a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
IL'' make it easy on you. Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Hmmm, well let's see.
It's my career, so I think I would know.
You wouldn't know
So you lied
How, in your wildest imagination, could you possibly know what you say
is true?
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy scouts, and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew
that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve punishment
for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts.
Moron. What is the "punishment" if what you say is true?
You clearly are a dumbshit aren't you. This is why you have been called
a liar when you claimed to have taught Criminal Justice courses.
The COURTS set the punishment *****, not Corrections.
So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
I clearly know more about it than you.
Not even close, not even CJ101
He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
Yeah - and if he gets beat up or killed, he had it coming, right?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is not
going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
No - he plays lawyer.
No, YOU play lawyer. I am sharing knowledge from actual experience
from a career field you know nothing about.
Sure thing. And I pointed out you were irresponsible.
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
26 Mar 2006 08:57:07 PM |
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In article <1143424105.810731.6980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as
transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to
spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your
sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't
be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail address, so
a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
IL'' make it easy on you. Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Hmmm, well let's see.
It's my career, so I think I would know.
You wouldn't know
I wasn't speaking of your "career." <snicker>
I was speaking of how you "claim" your fellow guards never e-mailed me.
Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
So you lied
Squawk! Liar! Liar! Polly want a cracker! Liar!
How, in your wildest imagination, could you possibly know what you say
is true?
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy scouts,
and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain
their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking
prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a
male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew
that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve
punishment
for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts.
Moron. What is the "punishment" if what you say is true?
You clearly are a dumbshit aren't you. This is why you have been called
a liar when you claimed to have taught Criminal Justice courses.
The COURTS set the punishment *****, not Corrections.
Then he was WRONG! You are stupid beyond belief. I wasn't the one who
claimed the inmates are their to be punished.
So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
I clearly know more about it than you.
Not even close, not even CJ101.
I don't teach that. Too remedial. We leave that to a local prosecutor.
He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
Yeah - and if he gets beat up or killed, he had it coming, right?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is
not
going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
No - he plays lawyer.
No, YOU play lawyer. I am sharing knowledge from actual experience
from a career field you know nothing about.
Sure thing. And I pointed out you were irresponsible.
.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
28 Mar 2006 08:31:21 AM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143424105.810731.6980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as
transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to
spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your
sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You wouldn't
be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail address, so
a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
IL'' make it easy on you. Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Hmmm, well let's see.
It's my career, so I think I would know.
You wouldn't know
I wasn't speaking of your "career." <snicker>
I was speaking of how you "claim" your fellow guards never e-mailed me.
They didn't.
Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Because of a few reasons.
a) I never showed anyone or told anyone of your e-mail address
b) You claimed they e-mailed you from their state e-mail address.
That's impossible since we don't have the capability to e-mail outside
the system.
c) You claimed you didn't know their names, and if indeed someone
e-mailed you from a state e-mail address you would have known their
names
and most importantly...
D) YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT ME ARE LIES.
So you lied
Squawk! Liar! Liar! Polly want a cracker! Liar!
How, in your wildest imagination, could you possibly know what you say
is true?
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy scouts,
and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain
their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking
prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a
male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already knew
that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve
punishment
for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts.
Moron. What is the "punishment" if what you say is true?
You clearly are a dumbshit aren't you. This is why you have been called
a liar when you claimed to have taught Criminal Justice courses.
The COURTS set the punishment *****, not Corrections.
Then he was WRONG! You are stupid beyond belief. I wasn't the one who
claimed the inmates are their to be punished.
Then what's your problem? Are you having delusions again?
YOU SAID.."So where is "punishment".
I replied to you that the courts determine what is the punishment.
So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
I clearly know more about it than you.
Not even close, not even CJ101.
I don't teach that.
I believe that because you never taught anything in regards to criminal
justice. You don't even know the very basics, as I have proven with
your refusal answer basic questions.
Too remedial. We leave that to a local prosecutor.
He's got a penis so he stays in a men's prison; end of story.
Yeah - and if he gets beat up or killed, he had it coming, right?
If it is like that where this inmate is incarcerated, he is
not
going
to win this suit.
Osprey plays lawyer.
No, he just exercises common sense.
No - he plays lawyer.
No, YOU play lawyer. I am sharing knowledge from actual experience
from a career field you know nothing about.
Sure thing. And I pointed out you were irresponsible.
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Transgendered inmate demands sex change |
28 Mar 2006 09:42:57 PM |
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In article <1143556281.025329.264110@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143424105.810731.6980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J
Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as
transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to
spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your
sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You
wouldn't
be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he
was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail
address, so
a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
IL'' make it easy on you. Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Hmmm, well let's see.
It's my career, so I think I would know.
You wouldn't know
I wasn't speaking of your "career." <snicker>
I was speaking of how you "claim" your fellow guards never e-mailed me.
They didn't.
Yeah - we know that is what you CLAIM.
Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Because of a few reasons.
a) I never showed anyone or told anyone of your e-mail address
You said you showed others my posts online. Were you lying about that?
b) You claimed they e-mailed you from their state e-mail address.
No I didn't.
That's impossible since we don't have the capability to e-mail outside
the system.
They really trust you guards out there, don't they?
c) You claimed you didn't know their names, and if indeed someone
e-mailed you from a state e-mail address you would have known their
names
MORON.
and most importantly...
D) YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT ME ARE LIES.
Sure - live in denial.
So you lied
Squawk! Liar! Liar! Polly want a cracker! Liar!
How, in your wildest imagination, could you possibly know what you say
is true?
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy
scouts,
and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain
their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking
prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a
male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already
knew
that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve
punishment
for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts.
Moron. What is the "punishment" if what you say is true?
You clearly are a dumbshit aren't you. This is why you have been called
a liar when you claimed to have taught Criminal Justice courses.
The COURTS set the punishment *****, not Corrections.
Then he was WRONG! You are stupid beyond belief. I wasn't the one who
claimed the inmates are their to be punished.
Then what's your problem? Are you having delusions again?
YOU SAID.."So where is "punishment".
I replied to you that the courts determine what is the punishment.
You are lost.
So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
I clearly know more about it than you.
Not even close, not even CJ101.
I don't teach that.
I believe that because you never taught anything in regards to criminal
justice. You don't even know the very basics, as I have proven with
your refusal answer basic questions.
"Refusal" is the word.
.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Barnes never gives up on his tired old lies - he is the ultimate LIE-beral |
29 Mar 2006 05:03:44 AM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143556281.025329.264110@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143424105.810731.6980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>, J
Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as
transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your way to
spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in your
sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You
wouldn't
be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here, and he
was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail
address, so
a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
IL'' make it easy on you. Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Hmmm, well let's see.
It's my career, so I think I would know.
You wouldn't know
I wasn't speaking of your "career." <snicker>
I was speaking of how you "claim" your fellow guards never e-mailed me.
They didn't.
Yeah - we know that is what you CLAIM.
Because they didn't. You were proven to have lied about that a long
time ago.
Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Because of a few reasons.
a) I never showed anyone or told anyone of your e-mail address
You said you showed others my posts online. Were you lying about that?
What lie? I never showed anyone or told anyone of your e-mail address.
b) You claimed they e-mailed you from their state e-mail address.
No I didn't.
Yes, you did.
That's impossible since we don't have the capability to e-mail outside
the system.
They really trust you guards out there, don't they?
They must, and it's obvious they don't trust you since you were
rejected by California DOC
c) You claimed you didn't know their names, and if indeed someone
e-mailed you from a state e-mail address you would have known their
names
MORON.
You are frustrated...well...stop lying then LIE-beral.
and most importantly...
D) YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT ME ARE LIES.
Sure - live in denial.
You live in lies
So you lied
Squawk! Liar! Liar! Polly want a cracker! Liar!
How, in your wildest imagination, could you possibly know what you say
is true?
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy
scouts,
and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to maintain
their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were taking
prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be in a
male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we already
knew
that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve
punishment
for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts.
Moron. What is the "punishment" if what you say is true?
You clearly are a dumbshit aren't you. This is why you have been called
a liar when you claimed to have taught Criminal Justice courses.
The COURTS set the punishment *****, not Corrections.
Then he was WRONG! You are stupid beyond belief. I wasn't the one who
claimed the inmates are their to be punished.
Then what's your problem? Are you having delusions again?
YOU SAID.."So where is "punishment".
I replied to you that the courts determine what is the punishment.
You are lost.
You don't think it's the courts job to pass the judgement and punish?
So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
I clearly know more about it than you.
Not even close, not even CJ101.
I don't teach that.
I believe that because you never taught anything in regards to criminal
justice. You don't even know the very basics, as I have proven with
your refusal answer basic questions.
"Refusal" is the word.
You just need to stop the lies.
Maybe there is hope for you, although I doubt it.
.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Barnes never gives up on his tired old lies - he is the ultimate LIE-beral |
29 Mar 2006 09:37:08 AM |
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In article <1143630223.894968.19040@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143556281.025329.264110@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143424105.810731.6980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article
<1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
J
Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as
transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that
are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your
way to
spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men
- the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in
your
sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You
wouldn't
be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here,
and he
was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail
address, so
a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
IL'' make it easy on you. Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Hmmm, well let's see.
It's my career, so I think I would know.
You wouldn't know
I wasn't speaking of your "career." <snicker>
I was speaking of how you "claim" your fellow guards never e-mailed me.
They didn't.
Yeah - we know that is what you CLAIM.
Because they didn't. You were proven to have lied about that a long
time ago.
Really? Where is that?
Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Because of a few reasons.
a) I never showed anyone or told anyone of your e-mail address
You said you showed others my posts online. Were you lying about that?
What lie? I never showed anyone or told anyone of your e-mail address.
LOL!!! You story changes with the wind.
b) You claimed they e-mailed you from their state e-mail address.
No I didn't.
Yes, you did.
No - but you are welcome to try to prove that.
That's impossible since we don't have the capability to e-mail outside
the system.
They really trust you guards out there, don't they?
They must, and it's obvious they don't trust you since you were
rejected by California DOC
Then you should know my name. What is it?
c) You claimed you didn't know their names, and if indeed someone
e-mailed you from a state e-mail address you would have known their
names
MORON.
You are frustrated...well...stop lying then LIE-beral.
LOL!!! How childishly embarrassing for you.
and most importantly...
D) YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT ME ARE LIES.
Sure - live in denial.
You live in lies
Ohhhhh.
So you lied
Squawk! Liar! Liar! Polly want a cracker! Liar!
How, in your wildest imagination, could you possibly know what you
say
is true?
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy
scouts,
and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to
maintain
their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were
taking
prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be
in a
male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we
already
knew
that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve
punishment
for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts.
Moron. What is the "punishment" if what you say is true?
You clearly are a dumbshit aren't you. This is why you have been
called
a liar when you claimed to have taught Criminal Justice courses.
The COURTS set the punishment *****, not Corrections.
Then he was WRONG! You are stupid beyond belief. I wasn't the one who
claimed the inmates are their to be punished.
Then what's your problem? Are you having delusions again?
YOU SAID.."So where is "punishment".
I replied to you that the courts determine what is the punishment.
You are lost.
You don't think it's the courts job to pass the judgement and punish?
"I" wasn't the one who claimed the purpose of Corrections is
punishment. You are lost.
So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
I clearly know more about it than you.
Not even close, not even CJ101.
I don't teach that.
I believe that because you never taught anything in regards to criminal
justice. You don't even know the very basics, as I have proven with
your refusal answer basic questions.
"Refusal" is the word.
You just need to stop the lies.
Maybe there is hope for you, although I doubt it.
Keep talking, *****. You do my job for me.
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| User: "osprey" |
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| Title: Re: Barnes never gives up on his tired old lies - he is the ultimate LIE-beral |
29 Mar 2006 12:15:02 PM |
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David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143630223.894968.19040@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143556281.025329.264110@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143424105.810731.6980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article
<1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
J
Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such as
transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates that
are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your
way to
spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but men
- the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest in
your
sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life. You
wouldn't
be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. He likes to talk about his personal life out here,
and he
was
dumb enough to show some of his fellow guards my e-mail
address, so
a
couple e-mailed me.
Another lie
Prove it.
Easy, you lied.
You can't prove your claim. So you lied.
IL'' make it easy on you. Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Hmmm, well let's see.
It's my career, so I think I would know.
You wouldn't know
I wasn't speaking of your "career." <snicker>
I was speaking of how you "claim" your fellow guards never e-mailed me.
They didn't.
Yeah - we know that is what you CLAIM.
Because they didn't. You were proven to have lied about that a long
time ago.
Really? Where is that?
Shall I go through that whole process again and embarrass you?
You claimed you VERIFIED these so called e-mails...isn't that correct?
How can you verify something that doesn't exist?
How can you verify something when YOU SAID YOU DIDN'T KNOW THEIR NAMES?
I have more questions that exposes your lie in more detail, but those
three questions alone will cast doubt in anyone's mind.
Explain how you could POSSIBLY know this.
Because of a few reasons.
a) I never showed anyone or told anyone of your e-mail address
You said you showed others my posts online. Were you lying about that?
What lie? I never showed anyone or told anyone of your e-mail address.
LOL!!! You story changes with the wind.
How can it change? I never told anyone of your e-mail address. You
made this all up and now it's falling in your face. You bring this on
yourself everytime you resort to these tired old lies of yours.
b) You claimed they e-mailed you from their state e-mail address.
No I didn't.
Yes, you did.
No - but you are welcome to try to prove that.
From: "David W. Barnes" <dbar...@aol.com>
Message-ID: <080420052314511057%dbarnes@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 23:14:51 -0700
" they used a state e-mail without a name."
From: "David W. Barnes" <dbar...@aol.com>
Message-ID: <241220050759205824%dbarnes@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:59:20 GMT
I said:
b) you claimed someone e-mailed you from state e-mail. That's
impossible
You said:
"Tell it to those who emailed me."
Actually you can prove your claims since they are yours.
Shall I show the part where you claimed you wouldn't expose their
"identities" then you say you didn't know their names?
That's impossible since we don't have the capability to e-mail outside
the system.
They really trust you guards out there, don't they?
They must, and it's obvious they don't trust you since you were
rejected by California DOC
Then you should know my name. What is it?
You still don't know your own name????
c) You claimed you didn't know their names, and if indeed someone
e-mailed you from a state e-mail address you would have known their
names
MORON.
You are frustrated...well...stop lying then LIE-beral.
LOL!!! How childishly embarrassing for you.
If you would stop lying, you wouldn't ge known as a LIE-beral.
and most importantly...
D) YOUR CLAIMS ABOUT ME ARE LIES.
Sure - live in denial.
You live in lies
Ohhhhh.
So you lied
Squawk! Liar! Liar! Polly want a cracker! Liar!
How, in your wildest imagination, could you possibly know what you
say
is true?
Everything about his spending his entire life in
jobs that expose you to nothing but men - the military, boy
scouts,
and
as a guard, he has actually tried to brag about.
Can he get any more childish and stupid???
Every time I think not, you get worse.
The only thing the state is required to do is to
maintain
their
prescription medication and/or hormones they were
taking
prior to
their
incarceration. No more is required, and they will be
in a
male
facility.
So, basically, the state is irresponsible. But we
already
knew
that,
right Osprey?
How are they irresponsible. This man is there to recieve
punishment
for
his
crime.
No, he isn't. He is there for "corrections."
He is there for four main reasons.
a) incarceration
b) retribution
c) deterrence
and
d) rehabilitation
So where is "punishment?"
Punishment is set by the courts.
Moron. What is the "punishment" if what you say is true?
You clearly are a dumbshit aren't you. This is why you have been
called
a liar when you claimed to have taught Criminal Justice courses.
The COURTS set the punishment *****, not Corrections.
Then he was WRONG! You are stupid beyond belief. I wasn't the one who
claimed the inmates are their to be punished.
Then what's your problem? Are you having delusions again?
YOU SAID.."So where is "punishment".
I replied to you that the courts determine what is the punishment.
You are lost.
You don't think it's the courts job to pass the judgement and punish?
"I" wasn't the one who claimed the purpose of Corrections is
punishment. You are lost.
You are the one who doesn't know the three different systems of the
criminal justice system.
So much for your claim to know
something about the criminal justice system.
I clearly know more about it than you.
Not even close, not even CJ101.
I don't teach that.
I believe that because you never taught anything in regards to criminal
justice. You don't even know the very basics, as I have proven with
your refusal answer basic questions.
"Refusal" is the word.
You just need to stop the lies.
Maybe there is hope for you, although I doubt it.
Keep talking, *****. You do my job for me.
I can't do it half as good as you do for me..:o) And yes, you are too
stupid to figure that is not a positive for you.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: Barnes never gives up on his tired old lies - he is the ultimate LIE-beral |
29 Mar 2006 11:57:18 PM |
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In article <1143656102.182873.126270@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143630223.894968.19040@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143556281.025329.264110@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article <1143424105.810731.6980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article
<1143357661.115467.303580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article
<1143354293.751684.303600@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
David W. Barnes wrote:
In article
<yc-dndWypsTPsrvZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com>,
J
Young
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote in message
news:250320062200149830%dbarnes@aol.com...
In article
<1143352674.613995.49390@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
osprey <noneedtoknow@mail.com> wrote:
I don't know how other states handle issues such
as
transgender
inmates, but in Delaware we have a few inmates
that
are
transgrendered.
Osprey - I understand that you have gone out of your
way to
spend
your
entire life in jobs that expose you to nothing but
men
- the
military,
boy scouts, and as a guard, but we have no interest
in
your
sexual
fantasies.
You seem to know a great deal about this man's life.
You
wouldn't
be
obsessed, would you?
Nah. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
