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User: "Michelle Malkin"
Date: 15 Jul 2006 05:39:24 PM
Object: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 22 Jul 2006 05:52:52 PM
On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml

Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean
The Boston Globe
Friday 14 July 2006
Contemporary conservatism and its influence on the Republican Party
was, until recently, a mystery to me. The practitioners' bludgeoning
style of politics, their self-serving manipulation of the political
processes, and their policies that focus narrowly on perceived
self-interest - none of this struck me as based on anything related to
traditional conservatism. Rather, truth be told, today's so-called
conservatives are quite radical.
For more than 40 years I have considered myself a "Goldwater
conservative," and am thoroughly familiar with the movement's canon. But
I can find nothing conservative about the Bush/Cheney White House, which
has created a Nixon "imperial presidency" on steroids, while acting as
if being tutored by the best and brightest of the Cosa Nostra.
What true conservative calls for packing the courts to politicize
the federal judiciary to the degree that it is now possible to determine
the outcome of cases by looking at the prior politics of judges? Where
is the conservative precedent for the monocratic leadership style that
conservative Republicans imposed on the US House when they took control
in 1994, a style that seeks primarily to perfect fund-raising skills
while outsourcing the writing of legislation to special interests and
freezing Democrats out of the legislative process?
How can those who claim themselves conservatives seek to destroy the
deliberative nature of the US Senate by eliminating its extended-debate
tradition, which has been the institution's distinctive contribution to
our democracy? Yet that is precisely what Republican Senate leaders want
to do by eliminating the filibuster when dealing with executive business
(namely judicial appointments).
Today's Republican policies are antithetical to bedrock conservative
fundamentals. There is nothing conservative about preemptive wars or
disregarding international law by condoning torture. Abandoning fiscal
responsibility is now standard operating procedure. Bible-thumping,
finger-pointing, tongue-lashing attacks on homosexuals are not found in
Russell Krik's classic conservative canons, nor in James Burham's guides
to conservative governing. Conservatives in the tradition of former
senator Barry Goldwater and President Ronald Reagan believed in
"conserving" this planet, not relaxing environmental laws to make life
easier for big business. And neither man would have considered employing
Christian evangelical criteria in federal programs, ranging from
restricting stem cell research to fighting AIDs through abstinence.
Candid and knowledgeable Republicans on the far right concede -
usually only when not speaking for attribution - that they are not truly
conservative. They do not like to talk about why they behave as they do,
or even to reflect on it. Nonetheless, their leaders admit they like
being in charge, and their followers grant they find comfort in strong
leaders who make them feel safe. This is what I gleaned from discussions
with countless conservative leaders and followers, over a decade of
questioning.
I started my inquiry in the mid-1990s, after a series of
conversations with Goldwater, whom I had known for more than 40 years.
Goldwater was also mystified (when not miffed) by the direction of
today's professed conservatives - their growing incivility, pugnacious
attitudes, and arrogant and antagonistic style, along with a narrow
outlook intolerant of those who challenge their thinking. He worried
that the Republican Party had sold its soul to Christian
fundamentalists, whose divisive social values would polarize the nation.
From those conversations, Goldwater and I planned to study why these
people behave as they do, and to author a book laying out what we found.
Sadly, the senator's declining health soon precluded his continuing on
the project, so I put it on the shelf. But I kept digging until I found
some answers, and here are my thoughts.
For almost half a century, social scientists have been exploring
authoritarianism. We do not typically associate authoritarianism with
our democracy, but as I discovered while examining decades of empirical
research, we ignore some findings at our risk. Unfortunately, the social
scientists who have studied these issues report their findings in
monographs and professional journals written for their peers, not for
general readers. With the help of a leading researcher and others, I
waded into this massive body of work.
What I found provided a personal epiphany. Authoritarian
conservatives are, as a researcher told me, "enemies of freedom,
antidemocratic, antiequality, highly prejudiced, mean-spirited, power
hungry, Machiavellian and amoral." And that's not just his view. To the
contrary, this is how these people have consistently described
themselves when being anonymously tested, by the tens of thousands over
the past several decades.
Authoritarianism's impact on contemporary conservatism is beyond
question. Because this impact is still growing and has troubling (if not
actually evil) implications, I hope that social scientists will begin to
write about this issue for general readers. It is long past time to
bring the telling results of their empirical work into the public square
and to the attention of American voters. No less than the health of our
democracy may depend on this being done. We need to stop thinking we are
dealing with traditional conservatives on the modern stage, and instead
recognize that they've often been supplanted by authoritarians.
John W. Dean, former Nixon White House counsel, just published his
seventh nonfiction book, Conservatives Without Conscience.
/end
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 23 Jul 2006 03:05:52 PM
Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean

I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 24 Jul 2006 02:36:07 PM
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...

Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading
it.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 24 Jul 2006 03:06:14 PM
Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<a88ac25ba4eqo9i1v6hukplee2u7d10b2l@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...


Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading it.

It actually showed up today. And since we have severe thunderstorms
lurking about, I may be shutting down the computer soon and reading...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 26 Jul 2006 12:11:32 PM
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:06:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<a88ac25ba4eqo9i1v6hukplee2u7d10b2l@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...


Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading it.


It actually showed up today. And since we have severe thunderstorms
lurking about, I may be shutting down the computer soon and reading...

You realize, of course, that your reading habits have been noted and
recorded.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)

.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 26 Jul 2006 12:36:32 PM
Previously, on alt.atheism, thomas p in episode
<lq9cc29fqde4nskt58jngiroa4jt0d2sne@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:06:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<a88ac25ba4eqo9i1v6hukplee2u7d10b2l@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...


Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading
it.


It actually showed up today. And since we have severe thunderstorms
lurking about, I may be shutting down the computer soon and reading...


You realize, of course, that your reading habits have been noted and
recorded.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 27 Jul 2006 12:39:47 PM
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:36:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, thomas p in episode
<lq9cc29fqde4nskt58jngiroa4jt0d2sne@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:06:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<a88ac25ba4eqo9i1v6hukplee2u7d10b2l@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...


Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading
it.


It actually showed up today. And since we have severe thunderstorms
lurking about, I may be shutting down the computer soon and reading...


You realize, of course, that your reading habits have been noted and
recorded.


Wouldn't surprise me in the least...

It's the 666th strike against you on the black list. Beware you don't
get black balled........
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.

User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 28 Jul 2006 02:54:54 AM
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:36:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, thomas p in episode
<lq9cc29fqde4nskt58jngiroa4jt0d2sne@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:06:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<a88ac25ba4eqo9i1v6hukplee2u7d10b2l@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...


Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading
it.


It actually showed up today. And since we have severe thunderstorms
lurking about, I may be shutting down the computer soon and reading...


You realize, of course, that your reading habits have been noted and
recorded.


Wouldn't surprise me in the least...

No, unfortunately such ideas are not in the realm of humor or paranoia
anymore. They are all too likely to be true.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)

.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 02 Aug 2006 09:12:14 PM
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:54:54 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:36:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, thomas p in episode
<lq9cc29fqde4nskt58jngiroa4jt0d2sne@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:06:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<a88ac25ba4eqo9i1v6hukplee2u7d10b2l@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...


Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading
it.


It actually showed up today. And since we have severe thunderstorms
lurking about, I may be shutting down the computer soon and reading...


You realize, of course, that your reading habits have been noted and
recorded.


Wouldn't surprise me in the least...


No, unfortunately such ideas are not in the realm of humor or paranoia
anymore. They are all too likely to be true.

/Cue BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nuthin' Yet."
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
User: "thomas p."

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 03 Aug 2006 04:30:06 AM
stoney wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:54:54 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:36:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, thomas p in episode
<lq9cc29fqde4nskt58jngiroa4jt0d2sne@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:06:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<a88ac25ba4eqo9i1v6hukplee2u7d10b2l@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...


Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading
it.


It actually showed up today. And since we have severe thunderstorms
lurking about, I may be shutting down the computer soon and reading...


You realize, of course, that your reading habits have been noted and
recorded.


Wouldn't surprise me in the least...


No, unfortunately such ideas are not in the realm of humor or paranoia
anymore. They are all too likely to be true.


/Cue BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nuthin' Yet."

And, if you do see anything, don't say anything; it's illegal.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 07 Aug 2006 06:28:36 PM
On 3 Aug 2006 02:30:06 -0700, "thomas p." <tonyofbexar@yahoo.dk> wrote
in alt.atheism


stoney wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:54:54 +0200, thomas p
<tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in alt.atheism

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:36:32 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, thomas p in episode
<lq9cc29fqde4nskt58jngiroa4jt0d2sne@4ax.com>...

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 15:06:14 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<a88ac25ba4eqo9i1v6hukplee2u7d10b2l@4ax.com>...

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:05:52 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in alt.atheism

Previously, on alt.atheism, stoney in episode
<n1b5c29ttfnfk0irsiokhgr412escg7ubc@4ax.com>...

On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 18:39:24 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


Triumph of the Authoritarians
By John W. Dean


I have his book on the way. Should be interesting...


Be interesting to see how it strikes you when you're finished reading
it.


It actually showed up today. And since we have severe thunderstorms
lurking about, I may be shutting down the computer soon and reading...


You realize, of course, that your reading habits have been noted and
recorded.


Wouldn't surprise me in the least...


No, unfortunately such ideas are not in the realm of humor or paranoia
anymore. They are all too likely to be true.


/Cue BTO's "You Ain't Seen Nuthin' Yet."


And, if you do see anything, don't say anything; it's illegal.

That's Christian FreedomŽ.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.










User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 15 Jul 2006 08:48:50 PM
Previously, on alt.atheism, Michelle Malkin in episode
<lfmdnbGu9uEG8yTZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml

I have his book on the way. His last appearance on The Daily Show piqued
my interest.
Talk about a world turned inside out when John Dean could have the moral
high ground...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
.
User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 15 Jul 2006 10:02:44 PM
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:k5OdnVcRbIZhByTZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Michelle Malkin in episode
<lfmdnbGu9uEG8yTZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


I have his book on the way. His last appearance on The Daily Show piqued
my interest.

Talk about a world turned inside out when John Dean could have the moral
high ground...

Shocks the hell out of me, too. That's why I posted
it. That and hearing him on a couple tv shows.
Maybe now some Republicans will realize that the
people running their Party aren't really Republicans
but neo-fascists trying to turn the US into a dictatorship.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^


--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]

http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC

"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com

.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Triumph of the Authoritarians by John Dean 16 Jul 2006 01:22:08 AM
In article <RYudndmV4MjOMSTZnZ2dnUVZ_qWdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:

"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:k5OdnVcRbIZhByTZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@megapath.net...

Previously, on alt.atheism, Michelle Malkin in episode
<lfmdnbGu9uEG8yTZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@comcast.com>...

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/071406T.shtml


I have his book on the way. His last appearance on The Daily Show piqued
my interest.

Talk about a world turned inside out when John Dean could have the moral
high ground...


Shocks the hell out of me, too. That's why I posted
it. That and hearing him on a couple tv shows.
Maybe now some Republicans will realize that the
people running their Party aren't really Republicans
but neo-fascists trying to turn the US into a dictatorship.
--

I agree. This new crowd has nothing in common with the Republicans or
conservatives I used to know. I'll order Dean's book too, just as soon
as I finish Greg Palast's 'Armed Madhouse' which I just bought today.
Speaking of fascism, a good book which I just finished is 'Kingdom
Coming The Rise of Christian Nationalism' by Michelle Goldberg. It goes
into detail as to how far the Religious Right has co-opted this
government and also draws some very disturbing parallels between what is
happening today and the rise of European fascism in the '20s and '30s.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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