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"Linda Lee" |
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23 Mar 2006 12:33:54 PM |
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True and False for the Children |
Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 02:50:44 PM |
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"Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote in message
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Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
This is a wise god???
Why does this all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent
designer, create killing Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions,
Wars, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body
malfunctions and starvation? There are 12,000 known ailments and diseases
that torture and kill men, women and CHILDREN of all religious persuasions.
Why would this omnificent all loving omnificent creator be so brutal and
uncaring?
Just one example of ridiculous ailments is a parasitic worm in West Africa
that bores through the eyes of innocent children and causes total blindness
for the rest of their lives. This is the work of an all caring and loving
god creator???
Why does this all powerful and caring god permit totally innocent children
to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed
brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and
others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others
pauper poor? Why does he permit 2,000,000 TOTALLY INNOCENT CHILDREN to
suffer and die of starvation each year and many more to suffer and die from
punishing diseases? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate into
a miserable and devastating old age?
created gods!
Why did this all powerful and loving creator create things like sharks,
jelly fish, octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, poisonous snakes, stinging
and poisonous insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why did this caring benevolent
god create animals (including man) that need to kill and eat other animals
to survive?
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| User: "Suzanne" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
24 Mar 2006 10:20:35 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1143138834.530081.288590@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
This is a wise god???
Why does this all powerful creator, all loving and caring intelligent
designer, create killing Plagues, Tsunamis, Tornadoes, Volcanic Eruptions,
Wars, Cancers and hundreds of debilitating diseases, serious body
malfunctions and starvation? There are 12,000 known ailments and diseases
that torture and kill men, women and CHILDREN of all religious
persuasions.
Why would this omnificent all loving omnificent creator be so brutal and
uncaring?
You have a whole lot of supposition going on
in your reply.
Just one example of ridiculous ailments is a parasitic worm in West Africa
that bores through the eyes of innocent children and causes total
blindness
for the rest of their lives. This is the work of an all caring and loving
god creator???
You assume a lot.
Why does this all powerful and caring god permit totally innocent children
to die at birth? Or worse, be born lacking eyesight, a fully developed
brain, deaf and dumb, missing limbs etc.? Why are some born idiots and
others with super intelligence? Why are some born into wealth and others
pauper poor? Why does he permit 2,000,000 TOTALLY INNOCENT CHILDREN to
suffer and die of starvation each year and many more to suffer and die
from
punishing diseases? Why are his human creations designed to deteriorate
into
a miserable and devastating old age?
created gods!
Why did this all powerful and loving creator create things like sharks,
jelly fish, octopus, lions, tigers, rhinoceros, poisonous snakes, stinging
and poisonous insects, poisonous plants etc.? Why did this caring
benevolent
god create animals (including man) that need to kill and eat other animals
to survive?
God did not create animals to kill other animals.
When Adam and Eve sinned, and they "fell"
from grace, that affected the whole creation.
There is a Bible verse that says that all of the
Creation groans for redemption. Later, he will
restore all things. Then the lion will be with the
lamb and not be enemies, etc.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 12:40:26 PM |
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Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
That's baloney for the children. The real saviors are
firefighters, paramedics, Coast Guard, police, Army, etc.
There are no gods.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 01:00:30 PM |
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Witziges Rätsel wrote:
Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
That's baloney for the children. The real saviors are
firefighters, paramedics, Coast Guard, police, Army, etc.
There are no gods.
HA!
You forgot EMT's. Have heart failure and you are more likely to be alive
when you get to the hospital if there are no paramedics around.
You've probably figured out what I am (also a firefighter).
The sentence above is true but a little misleading.
To the ER you are more likely to be alive because the EMT's scoop and run
while the paramedics stay and play, giving drugs etc.
The number who walk out the front door alive favors the paramedic approach
in numbers but is not statistically significent.
Oddly enough few survive and all, especially in this town, have a ton of
people praying for them.
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| User: "Mary Hogan" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 01:03:57 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Witziges Rätsel wrote:
Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
That's baloney for the children. The real saviors are
firefighters, paramedics, Coast Guard, police, Army, etc.
There are no gods.
HA!
You forgot EMT's. Have heart failure and you are more likely to be alive
when you get to the hospital if there are no paramedics around.
You've probably figured out what I am (also a firefighter).
The sentence above is true but a little misleading.
To the ER you are more likely to be alive because the EMT's scoop and run
while the paramedics stay and play, giving drugs etc.
The number who walk out the front door alive favors the paramedic approach
in numbers but is not statistically significent.
Oddly enough few survive and all, especially in this town, have a ton of
people praying for them.
Thank you for being a firefighter.
You are appreciated.
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| User: "Witziges Rätsel" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 02:16:49 PM |
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Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
That's baloney for the children. The real saviors are
firefighters, paramedics, Coast Guard, police, Army, etc.
There are no gods.
HA!
You forgot EMT's. Have heart failure and you are more likely to be alive
when you get to the hospital if there are no paramedics around.
You've probably figured out what I am (also a firefighter).
Thank you for being a firefighter.
If you look closely at my sentence, you'll see that there is "etc" at
the end. That means I include every other sort of rescuer and savior.
Besides, I thought that paramedics and EMT's were the same thing. I
bet most people do.
< snip >
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| User: "Linda Lee" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 12:41:07 PM |
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Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 02:05:34 PM |
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"Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1143139267.136560.76690@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
and yet he can never be arsed to put in a personal appearance every so
often.
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| User: "Bill" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 03:01:18 PM |
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"Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1143139267.136560.76690@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
If he is the only god why does he permit thousands of other god claims to
exist?
Why does your god create darkness? Is he trying to hide something from us?
Is he trying to create accidents?
If he makes peace why are there so many wars, murders and rebellions?
Why does he create EVIL???
Your Lord doesn't make much sense!
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| User: "Suzanne" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
24 Mar 2006 10:13:55 PM |
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"Bill" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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"Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1143139267.136560.76690@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
If he is the only god why does he permit thousands of other god claims to
exist?
Why does your god create darkness? Is he trying to hide something from us?
Is he trying to create accidents?
If he makes peace why are there so many wars, murders and rebellions?
Why does he create EVIL???
Your Lord doesn't make much sense!
Go back and really look at this verse above. It's
not evil in the sense of iniquity. Look at it, it says
"I make peace, and create evil." The evil is an
opposite of peace. Now what is another word
that we would say is the opposite of peace?
Chaos? Trouble? Calamity? That is what it is
saying. The word that is used for "evil" in the
verse in Isaiah that is mentioned (Is. 45:5-7), has
a different connotation than the way in which you
are using it. The Old Testament originals are
Hebrew with some Aramaic. The New Testament
scriptures the Bible is translated from is Greek.
A word can mean several things and one of the
ways in which you can know is how the same
word is used elsewhere and how it was translated
elsewhere For example, by using the word
"vehicle," I could mean anything from a car to
a chariot to a truck or a motorized scooter.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?cantc=FF?=" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
25 Mar 2006 12:06:50 AM |
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Suzanne wrote:
Go back and really look at this verse above. It's
not evil in the sense of iniquity. Look at it, it says
"I make peace, and create evil." The evil is an
opposite of peace.
Whatever.
Peace is good.
Anything else is not good.
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 04:45:46 PM |
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"Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com> wrote in news:1143139267.136560.76690
@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
So your god is the source evil in your book.
Klazmon.
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?cantc=FF?=" |
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23 Mar 2006 12:58:24 PM |
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Linda Lee wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Linda helps with the darkness and evil.
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 12:43:16 PM |
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Linda Lee wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
I don't believe that.
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| User: "Suzanne" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
24 Mar 2006 10:04:09 PM |
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"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Linda Lee wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
I don't believe that.
The word "evil" here is translated several
ways in the Bible. It is also translated as
"calamity" and "distress," or even "trouble."
I believe that it means "calamity" here,
rather than what we think of as darkness
in the sense of demonic. Deuteronomy
31:21 "troubles" is the same word. But
however it is best translated, Linda is right,
there is a verse that says this, which she
has quoted.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
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| User: "Linda Lee" |
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24 Mar 2006 10:50:33 PM |
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Suzanne wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143139396.578995.160540@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Linda Lee wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
I don't believe that.
The word "evil" here is translated several
ways in the Bible. It is also translated as
"calamity" and "distress," or even "trouble."
I believe that it means "calamity" here,
rather than what we think of as darkness
in the sense of demonic. Deuteronomy
31:21 "troubles" is the same word. But
however it is best translated, Linda is right,
there is a verse that says this, which she
has quoted.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
Suzanne,
It also says that He sometimes sends evil angels among us. But yes,
the evil that God "creates" in our lives is designed to drive us back
to God and is not meant for our harm, but is meant for our good, to
turn us against the life without God, so that our spirits may escape
eventual destruction.
If it is understood that God's concern is only for our spirit and not
for our flesh, His stated actions are much easier to understand.
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| User: "Suzanne" |
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07 Apr 2006 10:03:31 PM |
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"Linda Lee" <lindaleekeller.1@juno.com> wrote in message
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Suzanne wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143139396.578995.160540@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Linda Lee wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
I don't believe that.
The word "evil" here is translated several
ways in the Bible. It is also translated as
"calamity" and "distress," or even "trouble."
I believe that it means "calamity" here,
rather than what we think of as darkness
in the sense of demonic. Deuteronomy
31:21 "troubles" is the same word. But
however it is best translated, Linda is right,
there is a verse that says this, which she
has quoted.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
Suzanne,
It also says that He sometimes sends evil angels among us. But yes,
the evil that God "creates" in our lives is designed to drive us back
to God and is not meant for our harm, but is meant for our good, to
turn us against the life without God, so that our spirits may escape
eventual destruction.
If it is understood that God's concern is only for our spirit and not
for our flesh, His stated actions are much easier to understand.
Please quote what scripture you are talking about,
concerning what you are saying is God sending evil
angels.
God is concerned for our bodies because they are
the temple of the Holy Spirit. He "allows" things in
our lives that he will use for a good purpose. In Job,
God alowed Job to be tried.
Best regards,
Suzanne
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07 Apr 2006 11:08:17 PM |
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Suzanne wrote:
Linda Lee wrote:
Suzanne wrote:
The word "evil" here is translated several
ways in the Bible. It is also translated as
"calamity" and "distress," or even "trouble."
I believe that it means "calamity" here,
rather than what we think of as darkness
in the sense of demonic.
It also says that He sometimes sends evil angels among us. But yes,
the evil that God "creates" in our lives is designed to drive us back
to God and is not meant for our harm, but is meant for our good, to
turn us against the life without God, so that our spirits may escape
eventual destruction.
So you say.
Please quote what scripture you are talking about,
concerning what you are saying is God sending evil
angels.
You really don't read your Bible, do you?
(Either that or you are playing dumb because Linda calls everything
angels rather than more traditional words.)
You insist on calling everything spirits even when the context clearly
refers to angels/daemons/demons or even ghosts.
"But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit
from the LORD troubled him. And Saul's servants said unto him,
'Look out! An evil spirit from God troubles you.'"
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
27 Mar 2006 09:59:59 AM |
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Suzanne wrote:
"Neil Kelsey" <neil_kelsey@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143139396.578995.160540@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
Linda Lee wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
I don't believe that.
The word "evil" here is translated several
ways in the Bible. It is also translated as
"calamity" and "distress," or even "trouble."
I believe that it means "calamity" here,
rather than what we think of as darkness
in the sense of demonic. Deuteronomy
31:21 "troubles" is the same word. But
however it is best translated, Linda is right,
there is a verse that says this, which she
has quoted.
I believe somebody wrote that (duh), I just don't believe it's true.
Any of it.
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| User: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?cantc=FF?=" |
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23 Mar 2006 12:59:29 PM |
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Neil Kelsey wrote:
Linda Lee wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
I don't believe that.
She doesn't either.
Call her out on whether God creates darkness and evil.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: True and False for the Children |
23 Mar 2006 01:53:11 PM |
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On 23 Mar 2006 10:41:07 -0800, "Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com>
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Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Who gives a *****, moron?
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| User: "Suzanne" |
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26 Mar 2006 12:14:48 AM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2006 10:41:07 -0800, "Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com>
wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Who gives a *****, moron?
The rest of us in the thread, Christopher. It's
your words that are not appreciated, and I
don't think you act very grown up.
Suzanne
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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26 Mar 2006 08:07:08 AM |
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"Suzanne" <suzanne777@altavista.remove.net> wrote in message
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2006 10:41:07 -0800, "Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com>
wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Who gives a *****, moron?
The rest of us in the thread, Christopher. It's
your words that are not appreciated, and I
don't think you act very grown up.
So? Put in him in your killfile and stop whining.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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26 Mar 2006 05:03:45 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:14:48 GMT, "Suzanne"
<suzanne777@altavista.remove.net> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2006 10:41:07 -0800, "Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com>
wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Who gives a *****, moron?
The rest of us in the thread, Christopher. It's
your words that are not appreciated, and I
don't think you act very grown up.
The moron rubbed her bible quotes in the atheist's face., idiot.
It is both stupid and rude.
As are you.
Was that clear enough even for you?
Suzanne
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| User: "AZ Nomad" |
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26 Mar 2006 12:23:34 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:14:48 GMT, Suzanne <suzanne777@altavista.remove.net> wrote:
"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On 23 Mar 2006 10:41:07 -0800, "Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com>
wrote:
Isa. 45:5-7 continues, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me ...I form the light, and create darkness: I make
peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Who gives a *****, moron?
The rest of us in the thread, Christopher. It's
your words that are not appreciated, and I
don't think you act very grown up.
If you don't like the reaction, then please leave alt.atheism out of
your moronic bible discussion.
Do you have any idea what a fucking idiot you resemble when you
quote sections of your book of fairy tales as if that meant anything
but your ability to act like a parrot?
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| User: "Sanitys Little Helper" |
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23 Mar 2006 04:17:55 PM |
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Linda Lee wrote:
Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
Why in holy *****'s name are you posting this drivel to alt.atheism? Can
you please go and rub your ignorance in somebody else's faces?
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| User: "Suzanne" |
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24 Mar 2006 10:23:25 PM |
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"Sanity's Little Helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
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Linda Lee wrote:
Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
Why in holy *****'s name are you posting this drivel to alt.atheism? Can
you please go and rub your ignorance in somebody else's faces?
I don't know who crossposted, but if you look
around your newsgroup, you will see that often
there are religious threads in there that are posted
by people in your newsgroup.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
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26 Mar 2006 12:42:10 AM |
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"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1143305336.088301.203940@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Suzanne wrote:
"Sanity's Little Helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
news:HdCdnZZpD6wDg77ZRVnyjA@brightview.com...
Linda Lee wrote:
Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
Why in holy *****'s name are you posting this drivel to alt.atheism?
Can
you please go and rub your ignorance in somebody else's faces?
I don't know who crossposted, but if you look
around your newsgroup, you will see that often
there are religious threads in there that are posted
by people in your newsgroup.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
Usually, but not always (I'd guess at least 75 percent, but probably
much more, of the time), in response to theists initially crossposting
to save our souls or insult us or both.
I see, that makes sense. I added it back just
so you could see this. You may remove it
again, if you wish. You see, when a person
is in another newsgroup and they have not
added in another newsgroup, but someone
else has, it's impossible to tell if the person
that is replying to us is in yet another newsgroup,
because sometimes they come to our group,
themselves by crossposting. It could be that it
came from your newsgroup that there was a
crossposting, you see.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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26 Mar 2006 02:59:32 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:42:10 GMT, "Suzanne"
<suzanne777@altavista.remove.net> wrote:
- Refer: <6JqVf.529$mu2.308@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net>
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1143305336.088301.203940@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
Suzanne wrote:
"Sanity's Little Helper" <elvish@noshpam.net> wrote in message
news:HdCdnZZpD6wDg77ZRVnyjA@brightview.com...
Linda Lee wrote:
Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
Why in holy *****'s name are you posting this drivel to alt.atheism?
Can
you please go and rub your ignorance in somebody else's faces?
I don't know who crossposted, but if you look
around your newsgroup, you will see that often
there are religious threads in there that are posted
by people in your newsgroup.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
Usually, but not always (I'd guess at least 75 percent, but probably
much more, of the time), in response to theists initially crossposting
to save our souls or insult us or both.
I see, that makes sense. I added it back just
so you could see this. You may remove it
again, if you wish. You see, when a person
is in another newsgroup and they have not
added in another newsgroup, but someone
else has, it's impossible to tell if the person
that is replying to us is in yet another newsgroup,
because sometimes they come to our group,
themselves by crossposting. It could be that it
came from your newsgroup that there was a
crossposting, you see.
Best Regards,
Suzanne
Are you aware that is was your very good Christian buddy Linda who
began this thread?
Began it by deliberately cross-posting to alt.atheism?
You said:
"It could be that it came from your newsgroup that there was a
crossposting, you see."
If you had bothered to check, you would have realised that it came
from the egregious Linda.
I can only guess as to the reason for her provocative behaviour, but
you'd have to ask her directly, if you can somehow manage to wheedle
some honesty out of her.
For your edification, here is the post that started this thread, with
technical information included:
(You will see from the content that posting a quote like hers in
alt.atheism is not only in clear violation of the charter, (especially
as the start of a thread, and considering the inflammatory heading),
but also bloody rude, and stunningly stupid and provocative, as well.
Linda should be ashamed of herself for this improper behaviour, and
you should think twice about your unquestioning support of same.)
You are getting very close to violating the charter as well.
Think about it, please.
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From: "Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com>
Newsgroups: alt.messianic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.w-w-church-god
Subject: True and False for the Children
Date: 23 Mar 2006 10:33:54 -0800
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Jude 25, "To the only wise God our Saviour."
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26 Mar 2006 04:14:58 AM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
Are you aware that is was your very good Christian buddy Linda who
began this thread?
No.
Began it by deliberately cross-posting to alt.atheism?
No.
If you had bothered to check, you would have realised that it came
from the egregious Linda.
This is not clear to me.
I can only guess as to the reason for her provocative behaviour
Perhaps she did not do it.
For your edification, here is the post that started this thread, with
technical information included:
Clearly from the long list of references, this message did not start the thread.
(You will see from the content that posting a quote like hers in
alt.atheism is not only in clear violation of the charter, (especially
as the start of a thread, and considering the inflammatory heading),
I have a pretty good idea who wrote that. It wasn't Linda.
Linda should be ashamed of herself for this improper behaviour
The verdict is not in.
From: "Linda Lee" <lindagirl444@juno.com>
Newsgroups: alt.messianic,alt.atheism,alt.religion.w-w-church-god
Subject: True and False for the Children
Date: 23 Mar 2006 10:33:54 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 2
Message-ID: <1143138834.530081.288590@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
References: <1205783mtlb8r81@corp.supernews.com>
I assume that this message was from me.
I assure you that I did not write the subject nor add alt.atheism.
Rather, I was replying to another message which already had that subject and which was
cross-posted.
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That's not the start of the thread - far from it.
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