Religions > Atheism > True Christian Fundamentalists do not Impose their Beliefs
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26 Jul 2006 05:53:51 PM |
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True Christian Fundamentalists do not Impose their Beliefs |
In a previous posting I described a fundamentalist (Christian) as
someone who believes in some of the fundamental aspects of Scripture:
creation, sin, redemption, the gospel and Christ's second coming. I
realize that there are different theological arguments in regards to
each of these fundamental beliefs. However, I believe that the most
fundamental and basic belief of goodness, is often overlooked and
neglected; buried under argument after argument and criticism after
criticism. The Word of God is all about goodness; the goodness of God
working through man through His Spirit. This is where many proclaimed
Christians are faltering. They have failed to recognize that their
lives should reflect God goodness and God's character. Sadly many
Christians have gotten caught up in being moral authorities (the moral
police) exercising a spirit of intolerance and/or arrogant
self-righteousness and resort to impose and force their "better than
thou" views on others. They have turned their hearts away from God and
as a result they are losing their ability to share the gospel with the
aid of God's Holy Spirit. They have chosen to take it upon themselves
to do the conviction and judging and how they fall short!! They are
willing to sacrifice God's goodness for power. We should do ourselves a
favor and get back to the basics and the fundamentals of goodness and
love. Study the Word of God and let it pierce OUR OWN hearts! Then can
we better understand how to share with others the goodness of God. A
true fundamental Christian believer does not impose his belief on
anyone, he does not have the need or desire to force others to God or
God on others. He simply does not see himself any better off than
anyone else.
I realize that there are those who do not agree with this point of
view. Your feedback is welcome. This is not intended to criticize those
who do not hold Biblical beliefs or to impose religion on anyone.
Hopefully I can do my part to clarify what has been happening to the
fundamental Christianity to the best of my knowledge and ability.
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| Title: Re: True Christian Fundamentalists do not Impose their Beliefs |
29 Jul 2006 04:17:09 PM |
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PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:43:31 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
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PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 05:34:57 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
< > wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:46:24 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
< > wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:02:59 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
< > wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
All 'God' had to do was tell Adam & Eve that he 'forgave' them
after their mindless disobedience.
Sin is an abomination to God. He could not embrace the sinners. Their
sin was in putting themselves above God. They had to repent of that
action before they could be forgiven.
An action which they did not now was right or wrong. Due to the little
fact that this god thingy forgot to give them that little talent, and
expected blind obedience, from creatures that knew no different.
Then the sick puke goes and puts the poison right in front of them and
leaves them alone, supposedly knowing full well before even the creation
of time, what was going to happen.
That god, is a sick god and not worthy of the ticks on the back of a dog.
Poor little things that were told to stay away from it--the only act
of disobedience they could perform--and they chose to disobey.
You can't disobey, if you don't know that you are disobeying. According
to the myth, this god never gave them the ability to know what
disobedience was.
Genesis 1: 16-17 "And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, "You
may freely eat of every tree of the garden; but of the tree of
knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you
eat of it you shall die." RSV
Means nothing to people that do not have the ability to discern right
from wrong. Further, if he didn't want them to eat from it, why did he
put it in easy reach.
Do you leave rat poison out for your kids to find?
Children must learn what is poison and what is good to eat because
they will not be children forever and will have to become discerning
adults or perish. At some point they will be exposed and will decide
to taste it or not. Whether or not they believe their parents'
warnings will determine their actions. Even poison is useful for some
purposes.
Not the same thing and you know it.
Real parents protect their children from harm. Real parents keep
dangerous things out of reach of their children.
There comes a time when Real Parents release their children to the
world and count on their teachings to have been internalized. Only
then will their children be less likely to suffer harm.
Only after years of instruction.
Since the mythical sky daddy basically said "don't" and ran off, there
was no "years of instruction"
So again, mythical sky daddy is a failure.
Real parents also
forgive their children when those children make mistakes.
If my child committed some horrendous act, I would still love him. If
he told me he intended to continue to commit that act over and over,
or didn't see anything wrong with what he had done, I would be
disappointed, and do what was necessary to help him see the error of
his ways. When he realized he was wrong and stopped acting in that
manner (or admitted sorrow or regret for having commited the act),
then chastisement would stop. Then he would be forgiven. Until then
he wouldn't even think he needed forgiveness!! not unlike many people
today.
Gee, wonder where the child learned to commit the horrendous act from?
BTW, even if your child did commit such and act, over and over again,
till they day they died, would you then condemn that child to an
eternity of torture and suffering, for a temporal act?
The mythical god of the bible does none of that. It is a sick demented
*****, not worthy of worship.
Okay. back up a bit. A point has been lost somewhere.....
All people are not God's children. Only those who elect to be adopted
by Him are His children. Those He protects, those He forgives. He
issues the call, and it is up to each person to choose to answer (or
not).
BUZZZZ, wrong. According to the myth, since we are on this planet, we
are the result of his creation. A creation that the mythical god,
forgot to originally equip with the ability to tell the difference
between right and wrong. Further, when the inevitable happened, IOW's,
people did what people do, the mythical god condemned, for eternity, all
decedents of the first two people.
According to your myth, your god cursed me from birth to an everlasting
place of torment and pain.
Now, explain again how this mythical deity of yours is a)loving, and
b)protective.
When you have children, you can't childproof their world forever. They
must learn what to handle and what not; how to handle breakables; how
to listen just because they are children.
Eh, wrong. Further, if my son does something after I have told him not
to do it, I don't create a place of eternal damnation and torture to
send him to. I correct him, and forgive him on the spot.
There is an option.... turn again toward God, walk with Him. Man
makes the choice. He is not a mindless robot.
Which god?
Same one. I think you call Him Thor.
I see evidence for no gods, so I ask again, which one?
What is your evidence that there is no God?
The same evidence you have that there is no Santa Claus.
Guess that makes me a better father then this god of mythology.
Restoration/Reconciliation is free to all.
BS, it is not free. It is however, salvation by duress. Believe or
burn for eternity.
How much does it cost a person to believe?
Everything apparently. Especially the ability to think independent of a
mass of superstitious mythology.
My, what a loving deity you've got there.
Parents ordinarily don't cease loving the children, and teach them.
The teaching of Adam and Eve took place outside of the garden. The
plan for redemption existed even then, and repentence and forgiveness
and reunion with the Creator were fully available to them, the same as
they are to you, me... "whosoever will."
The god of this mythical tale never loved in the first place. This
mythical god wanted nothing but mindless robots, doing it bidding,
cleaning up it's garden, and never thinking or questioning for themselves.
If He wanted mindless robots, He would have created them such rather
than giving them ability to choose.
It's track record is not very good. The mythical deity couldn't even
create an angle that didn't have human like flaws. And you want people
to follow this moron, that is supposed to know everything that ever did
happen, and will happen, since before time began. Yet still goes out of
it's way to create flawed entities, knowing full well what they will do.
Not much of a god if it can't even change the course of it's own actions.
Can He not? or does He choose not to.
Same difference. Not much of a god if it knows the outcome and does
nothing to prevent the damage.
God intervenes as He sees fit, not as we see fit. One thing I know is
that God can bring good out of any evil, any damage. Open your eyes
and recognize His work in the world.
Yeah, did that. One of the chief reasons I'm an atheist now. I did
look, not much good there. People have done more good in this world
when they have cast off the shackles of superstition and mythology.
When humans stop saying "god did it" and start asking, "why ______
happens", we learn. Such learning is what brought about things like the
polio vaccine, inoculations for mumps, rubella, measles.
Clear headed, none mythological thinking is what took us to the moon,
under the sea, and will someday take us to the stars.
You can keep your world of myth and fantasy. The real world is so much
more exciting.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| Title: Re: True Christian Fundamentalists do not Impose their Beliefs |
29 Jul 2006 08:33:13 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:17:09 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
BTW, even if your child did commit such and act, over and over again,
till they day they died, would you then condemn that child to an
eternity of torture and suffering, for a temporal act?
Anybody who is a child of God is not condemned to an eternity of
torture and suffering. THAT is the key.... You aren't BORN a child
of God, but must be adopted, and it is by His call and your
willingness to be adopted.
Regardless, nobody is condemned to an eternity of torture and
suffering for any temporal act or acts. That is what I think you
don't understand..... It isn't the "sinful act" that is being
punished, but the choice to remain separated from God. You either
join Him and become His adopted child, or you elect to go your own way
without Him and suffer the consequences. If you indeed believe there
are none, no problem, right? so why the arguments? If you are happy
in your self-sufficiency, you have made that choice. Certainly nobody
has hidden the truth from you.
You have the right to "not believe". Neither your saying there is no
afterlife, nor my saying there is an afterlife will change the facts
either way. What will be, will be. Que sera, sera.....
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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30 Jul 2006 01:13:08 PM |
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"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:17:09 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
BTW, even if your child did commit such and act, over and over again,
till they day they died, would you then condemn that child to an
eternity of torture and suffering, for a temporal act?
Anybody who is a child of God is not condemned to an eternity of
torture and suffering. THAT is the key.... You aren't BORN a child
of God, but must be adopted, and it is by His call and your
willingness to be adopted.
No thanks, I'm already adopted. Once is enough.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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29 Jul 2006 09:16:51 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:33:13 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
<ui2oc218mf3ffltfa9ag3du7gl43f5n5ae@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:17:09 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
BTW, even if your child did commit such and act, over and over again,
till they day they died, would you then condemn that child to an
eternity of torture and suffering, for a temporal act?
Anybody who is a child of God is not condemned to an eternity of
torture and suffering. THAT is the key.... You aren't BORN a child
of God, but must be adopted, and it is by His call and your
willingness to be adopted.
I do love that convoluted logic. God created everything, yet He is not
responsible for the results of His creation.
Regardless, nobody is condemned to an eternity of torture and
suffering for any temporal act or acts. That is what I think you
don't understand..... It isn't the "sinful act" that is being
punished, but the choice to remain separated from God. You either
join Him and become His adopted child, or you elect to go your own way
without Him and suffer the consequences. If you indeed believe there
are none, no problem, right? so why the arguments? If you are happy
in your self-sufficiency, you have made that choice. Certainly nobody
has hidden the truth from you.
What truth. That is merely the doctrine of a fairly large group of
Christians. No evidence supports any of the doctrines about an
afterlife. No evidence supports Christian doctrine over Moslem or Hindu
or Buddhist. It's all wishful thinking.
You have the right to "not believe". Neither your saying there is no
afterlife, nor my saying there is an afterlife will change the facts
either way. What will be, will be. Que sera, sera.....
So why don't you have any humility when you approach such questions?
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29 Jul 2006 10:09:25 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:16:51 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:33:13 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
<ui2oc218mf3ffltfa9ag3du7gl43f5n5ae@4ax.com>:
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You have the right to "not believe". Neither your saying there is no
afterlife, nor my saying there is an afterlife will change the facts
either way. What will be, will be. Que sera, sera.....
So why don't you have any humility when you approach such questions?
I don't understand that question, but it has roused my curiosity. Care
to enlighten me what you are asking? or implying? or insinuating?
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29 Jul 2006 10:45:45 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:09:25 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:16:51 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:33:13 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
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You have the right to "not believe". Neither your saying there is no
afterlife, nor my saying there is an afterlife will change the facts
either way. What will be, will be. Que sera, sera.....
So why don't you have any humility when you approach such questions?
I don't understand that question, but it has roused my curiosity. Care
to enlighten me what you are asking? or implying? or insinuating?
That in this discussion, you are condescending to those who do not
accept your doctrines.
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29 Jul 2006 11:01:48 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:45:45 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:09:25 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
<kj8oc2t4geti034248lf26bgqn6gc2177u@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:16:51 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:33:13 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
<ui2oc218mf3ffltfa9ag3du7gl43f5n5ae@4ax.com>:
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You have the right to "not believe". Neither your saying there is no
afterlife, nor my saying there is an afterlife will change the facts
either way. What will be, will be. Que sera, sera.....
So why don't you have any humility when you approach such questions?
I don't understand that question, but it has roused my curiosity. Care
to enlighten me what you are asking? or implying? or insinuating?
That in this discussion, you are condescending to those who do not
accept your doctrines.
I didn't realize my tone was condescending. I was just being
agreeable.... I know that USENET doesn't change people's opinions or
beliefs, and would not expect any change to occur. If I sound
condescending, it is a reflection of my limited ability to express
myself correctly.
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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30 Jul 2006 08:59:38 AM |
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PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:17:09 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
< > wrote:
BTW, even if your child did commit such and act, over and over again,
till they day they died, would you then condemn that child to an
eternity of torture and suffering, for a temporal act?
Anybody who is a child of God is not condemned to an eternity of
torture and suffering. THAT is the key.... You aren't BORN a child
of God, but must be adopted, and it is by His call and your
willingness to be adopted.
So, you admit we are all born atheists. Thank you for the clarification
of something I already knew.
Regardless, nobody is condemned to an eternity of torture and
suffering for any temporal act or acts. That is what I think you
don't understand..... It isn't the "sinful act" that is being
punished, but the choice to remain separated from God. You either
join Him and become His adopted child, or you elect to go your own way
without Him and suffer the consequences. If you indeed believe there
are none, no problem, right? so why the arguments? If you are happy
in your self-sufficiency, you have made that choice. Certainly nobody
has hidden the truth from you.
Do the letters, BS mean anything to you?
I'd suggest you read that book of blood you follow. If no one is
condemned to an eternity of torture and pain, why did god create hell?
And I just love the whole, salvation by duress method you folks have.
You clearly state it with this little diddy:
"You either join Him and become His adopted child, or you elect to go
your own way without Him and suffer the consequences."
Like I said, your method is, "believe or burn". Nice loving god you got
there.
You have the right to "not believe". Neither your saying there is no
afterlife, nor my saying there is an afterlife will change the facts
either way. What will be, will be. Que sera, sera.....
You are starting to step over towards Pascal's Wager.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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29 Jul 2006 08:39:59 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:17:09 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
Okay. back up a bit. A point has been lost somewhere.....
All people are not God's children. Only those who elect to be adopted
by Him are His children. Those He protects, those He forgives. He
issues the call, and it is up to each person to choose to answer (or
not).
BUZZZZ, wrong. According to the myth, since we are on this planet, we
are the result of his creation. A creation that the mythical god,
forgot to originally equip with the ability to tell the difference
between right and wrong. Further, when the inevitable happened, IOW's,
people did what people do, the mythical god condemned, for eternity, all
decedents of the first two people.
According to your myth, your god cursed me from birth to an everlasting
place of torment and pain.
Now, explain again how this mythical deity of yours is a)loving, and
b)protective.
We may be created through Him, but we are not His children by virtue
of creation. I possess many things, even animals, but they are not my
children. I create a painting, build a building, cook a meal, but
only my natural born child or any I might adopt are my children.
God did not curse you from birth to an everlasting place of torment
and pain. He created you to discover His majesty, become adopted, and
share in His glory forever. That you have not allowed Him to reveal
Himself to you, or that you may have rejected such revelation is your
choice, but you are not His child until you agree to be adopted.
"Be still and know....."
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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30 Jul 2006 09:05:07 AM |
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PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:17:09 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
< > wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
Okay. back up a bit. A point has been lost somewhere.....
All people are not God's children. Only those who elect to be adopted
by Him are His children. Those He protects, those He forgives. He
issues the call, and it is up to each person to choose to answer (or
not).
BUZZZZ, wrong. According to the myth, since we are on this planet, we
are the result of his creation. A creation that the mythical god,
forgot to originally equip with the ability to tell the difference
between right and wrong. Further, when the inevitable happened, IOW's,
people did what people do, the mythical god condemned, for eternity, all
decedents of the first two people.
According to your myth, your god cursed me from birth to an everlasting
place of torment and pain.
Now, explain again how this mythical deity of yours is a)loving, and
b)protective.
We may be created through Him, but we are not His children by virtue
of creation. I possess many things, even animals, but they are not my
children. I create a painting, build a building, cook a meal, but
only my natural born child or any I might adopt are my children.
The above statement makes no sense.
God did not curse you from birth to an everlasting place of torment
and pain. He created you to discover His majesty, become adopted, and
share in His glory forever. That you have not allowed Him to reveal
Himself to you, or that you may have rejected such revelation is your
choice, but you are not His child until you agree to be adopted.
You really must not have read much of that book of blood of yours. Your
gods default position is, "to hell with everyone". Then, comes the,
"you either believe in me, or to hell with you for all eternity", which
is nothing more then salvation by duress. You make the big bad scary
threat of everlasting torment, to try and get people to believe in you.
Lastly, what about all those people that lived and died before the
whole, Jesus thing. And all the people on earth now, that are dying,
that know nothing about this god you follow. And if you think the whole
world knows about your god, you are sadly mistaken. What happens to
those people when they die?
"Be still and know....."
I do know, it's a myth.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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29 Jul 2006 08:48:00 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:17:09 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
<ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:
The same evidence you have that there is no Santa Claus.
But there IS a Santa Claus.
www.patrish.com/santa.htm
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| User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" |
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30 Jul 2006 09:14:09 AM |
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PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:17:09 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
< > wrote:
The same evidence you have that there is no Santa Claus.
But there IS a Santa Claus.
www.patrish.com/santa.htm
Another nice little mythical tail, and look, on your own site too.
To bad you have no evidence for gods. It would be really nice if there
were a god, any god, then yes, there would be some mystery and magic in
the universe.
I'm sorry however that the mundane, boring, physical world in which you
are trapped, is not satisfactory to you. That simply living your life,
in awe of the universe and life around you, does not satisfy you in the
least. It pains me to know that people like you, have a hard time
conceiving of the universe continuing without your paltry little spark
of existence in it. It is a sad state of affairs when people, for what
ever reason, cheapen their one time around in this universe, by dreaming
of something that is not there, and will not happen. People who delude
themselves into thinking that out of the vastness of the universe, the
billions of galaxies with their billions of stars, that somehow, this
little spinning ball of dust, and their limited brain activity, are
important to something they have no evidence for.
The arrogance of the theist knows no bounds.
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There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 a=45, m=23, f=20
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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28 Jul 2006 10:24:00 AM |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
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29 Jul 2006 01:53:56 PM |
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"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
Google begging the question, the fallacy of taking your conclusion for
granted as a premise.
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29 Jul 2006 08:53:53 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:53:56 -0700, "Sheikh Yapeter" <sy@comcast.com>
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"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
Google begging the question, the fallacy of taking your conclusion for
granted as a premise.
Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
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30 Jul 2006 01:14:57 PM |
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"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
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Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
Why should anyone take your "experience" seriously?
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Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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30 Jul 2006 02:17:00 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:14:57 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
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Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
Why should anyone take your "experience" seriously?
Only if they want to understand who _I_ am.
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29 Jul 2006 09:18:18 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:53:53 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
<534oc2p42h0cvidch42ucqks2foqvheuo4@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:53:56 -0700, "Sheikh Yapeter" <sy@comcast.com>
wrote:
"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote in message
news:7vakc2t4g95r26dltl5oqriecbdibp6vhc@4ax.com...
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
Google begging the question, the fallacy of taking your conclusion for
granted as a premise.
Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
You have no evidence that you did experience the Holy Spirit. There are
no gifts to discuss.
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29 Jul 2006 10:10:52 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:18:18 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:53:53 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
<534oc2p42h0cvidch42ucqks2foqvheuo4@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:53:56 -0700, "Sheikh Yapeter" <sy@comcast.com>
wrote:
"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote in message
news:7vakc2t4g95r26dltl5oqriecbdibp6vhc@4ax.com...
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
Google begging the question, the fallacy of taking your conclusion for
granted as a premise.
Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
You have no evidence that you did experience the Holy Spirit. There are
no gifts to discuss.
People who know me and have seen changes in my life differ in opinion
from you. They have seen the evidence.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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29 Jul 2006 10:46:57 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:10:52 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
<tn8oc2tagv81clr0cku1is3tf02au13766@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:18:18 -0500, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:53:53 -0500, in alt.atheism
PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com> wrote in
<534oc2p42h0cvidch42ucqks2foqvheuo4@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:53:56 -0700, "Sheikh Yapeter" <sy@comcast.com>
wrote:
"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote in message
news:7vakc2t4g95r26dltl5oqriecbdibp6vhc@4ax.com...
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
Google begging the question, the fallacy of taking your conclusion for
granted as a premise.
Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
You have no evidence that you did experience the Holy Spirit. There are
no gifts to discuss.
People who know me and have seen changes in my life differ in opinion
from you. They have seen the evidence.
I assume that you are saying that you turned your life around. That is
good. You may believe that occurred because of a religious event. There
is no evidence to support that hypothesis, however.
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| User: "Rev. Bonnie V. Bitch, ULC zelfwhackandtrollenslspper@familytreesrus" |
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29 Jul 2006 09:30:39 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:53:53 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of PK & AMM
<agent@patrish.com>
Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
So basically, you have this experience which you can't prove, but the
rest of the world is supposed to share your unprovable,
in-your-head-only experience, and if we don't, you'll stand there and
call us names and judge us and label us and tell us how bad we are and
'less than' we are, even though this experience has led you to a cult
which says the preceding bad things you do are a big ole no-no.
In the words of the immortal Miss Bette Midler:
"***** you."
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| User: "Homer J Simpson" |
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29 Jul 2006 10:42:12 PM |
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"Rev. Bonnie V. *****, ULC" <zelfwhackandtrollenslspper@familytreesrus>
wrote in message news:p56oc2do0fsrss95hbcf6bk7cusoj4bu0c@4ax.com...
So basically, you have this experience which you can't prove, but the
rest of the world is supposed to share your unprovable,
in-your-head-only experience, and if we don't, you'll stand there and
call us names and judge us and label us and tell us how bad we are and
'less than' we are, even though this experience has led you to a cult
which says the preceding bad things you do are a big ole no-no.
In the words of the immortal Miss Bette Midler:
"***** you."
Actually, no. She says what 'God' says: "***** 'em if they can't take a
joke".
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29 Jul 2006 10:15:40 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:30:39 -0700, "Rev. Bonnie V. *****, ULC"
<zelfwhackandtrollenslspper@familytreesrus> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:53:53 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of PK & AMM
<agent@patrish.com>
Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
So basically, you have this experience which you can't prove, but the
rest of the world is supposed to share your unprovable,
in-your-head-only experience, and if we don't, you'll stand there and
call us names and judge us and label us and tell us how bad we are and
'less than' we are, even though this experience has led you to a cult
which says the preceding bad things you do are a big ole no-no.
I didn't say you are supposed to share the experience, just that it is
available for you if you want it. I have not called you names, and
won't. It is not for me to judge. Yourself has labelled you atheist,
not I. I don't believe in atheism. (How's dat grab yer buns?) And I
have not said you are less than I. Different? yes; I would say you
are different. Do I think I am a better human being? No, I am
blessed and humbled because I do not deserve to be. Do I think I'm
wishing you a better life? Yes, but that is my opinion based on my
experiences.
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| User: "Rev. Bonnie V. Bitch, ULC zelfwhackandtrollenslspper@familytreesrus" |
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29 Jul 2006 10:45:49 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:15:40 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of PK & AMM
<agent@patrish.com>
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:30:39 -0700, "Rev. Bonnie V. *****, ULC"
<zelfwhackandtrollenslspper@familytreesrus> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:53:53 -0500, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of PK & AMM
<agent@patrish.com>
Okay..... I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience. And again, if you would open yourself to the experience,
it is a free gift available to you.
So basically, you have this experience which you can't prove, but the
rest of the world is supposed to share your unprovable,
in-your-head-only experience, and if we don't, you'll stand there and
call us names and judge us and label us and tell us how bad we are and
'less than' we are, even though this experience has led you to a cult
which says the preceding bad things you do are a big ole no-no.
I didn't say you are supposed to share the experience,
"
Another lying christstain caught in another lie.
"I can't prove the Holy Spirit to you, but I can share my
experience."
YOU wrote it.
YOU typed it up.
YOU hit send.
just that it is
available for you if you want it. I have not called you names, and
won't. It is not for me to judge. Yourself has labelled you atheist,
not I. I don't believe in atheism. (How's dat grab yer buns?)
And yet atheism is part of reality, how's that smack your empty head?
And I
have not said you are less than I. Different? yes; I would say you
are different. Do I think I am a better human being? No, I am
blessed and humbled because I do not deserve to be. Do I think I'm
wishing you a better life? Yes, but that is my opinion based on my
experiences.
Thank you for admitting you just lied.
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29 Jul 2006 07:21:13 AM |
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On 28 Jul 2006 21:02:21 -0700, wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:56:14 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:24:00 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7vakc2t4g95r26dltl5oqriecbdibp6vhc@4ax.com>
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
They say that about Johnny Walker, too.
Oh, and a lobotomy.
And typhoid.
And if you haven't had a lobotomy or typhoid or been drunk on Johnny
Walker, does that make them nonexistent? or unable to cause the
effects they are known to cause?
You've missed the point. Heroin feels good, but it kills. Not
everything that feels good is good for you.
Oh. Okay. I thought you were denying His existence, which is what I
was responding to in Michael's comment.
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29 Jul 2006 08:10:11 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:21:13 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
On 28 Jul 2006 21:02:21 -0700, wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:56:14 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:24:00 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7vakc2t4g95r26dltl5oqriecbdibp6vhc@4ax.com>
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
They say that about Johnny Walker, too.
Oh, and a lobotomy.
And typhoid.
And if you haven't had a lobotomy or typhoid or been drunk on Johnny
Walker, does that make them nonexistent? or unable to cause the
effects they are known to cause?
You've missed the point. Heroin feels good, but it kills. Not
everything that feels good is good for you.
Oh. Okay. I thought you were denying His existence, which is what I
was responding to in Michael's comment.
Start thinking for a change - in the real world outside your
religion, your god is merely one of thousands of different religious
beliefs that are all equally irrelevant. SO NOBODY IS DENYING ANYTHING
BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REAL, IN THE REAL WORLD to do that.
Was that clear enough even for you?
Again, if you can think, try to understand the presumptions behind
your straw men, that the people you are attempting to describe and
invent perspectives for, don't even have.
It's not rocket science. But for starters, think of the implicit
presumptions behind "deny" - that it exists for them and they deny it.
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29 Jul 2006 11:23:27 AM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:10:11 -0400, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:21:13 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
On 28 Jul 2006 21:02:21 -0700, wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:56:14 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:24:00 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7vakc2t4g95r26dltl5oqriecbdibp6vhc@4ax.com>
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
They say that about Johnny Walker, too.
Oh, and a lobotomy.
And typhoid.
And if you haven't had a lobotomy or typhoid or been drunk on Johnny
Walker, does that make them nonexistent? or unable to cause the
effects they are known to cause?
You've missed the point. Heroin feels good, but it kills. Not
everything that feels good is good for you.
Oh. Okay. I thought you were denying His existence, which is what I
was responding to in Michael's comment.
Start thinking for a change - in the real world outside your
religion, your god is merely one of thousands of different religious
beliefs that are all equally irrelevant. SO NOBODY IS DENYING ANYTHING
BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REAL, IN THE REAL WORLD to do that.
Was that clear enough even for you?
Again, if you can think, try to understand the presumptions behind
your straw men, that the people you are attempting to describe and
invent perspectives for, don't even have.
It's not rocket science. But for starters, think of the implicit
presumptions behind "deny" - that it exists for them and they deny it.
In that case I have used the correct word. It is real, in the real
world.... Just because YOU don't want to believe it is real, doesn't
nullify its existence.
I have never seen your brain, so I don't think it exists..... I don't
deny you have a brain because it doesn't exist in order for me to deny
it..............
(www.patrish.com/atheist.html)
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29 Jul 2006 03:54:41 PM |
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"PK & AMM" <agent@patrish.com> wrote
I have never seen your brain, so I don't think it exists.....
Don't be stupid, sonny, brains are known to be real, so your attempted
analogy is bogus.
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29 Jul 2006 08:43:19 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:23:27 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
(www.patrish.com/atheist.html)
Thought I put www.patrish.com/atheist.html
Add to that http://www.patrish.com/santa.htm
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29 Jul 2006 07:40:02 PM |
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:23:27 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:10:11 -0400, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:21:13 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
On 28 Jul 2006 21:02:21 -0700, wrote:
PK & AMM wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:56:14 +0930, Michael Gray
<fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:24:00 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@patrish.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <7vakc2t4g95r26dltl5oqriecbdibp6vhc@4ax.com>
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:21:16 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
I would object that if you can't even prove that this 'Holy Spirit' exists
in the real world, you shouldn't pretend that 'it', does.
Once you open yourself to experience the Holy Spirit, you will never
again deny it. There is no doubt, no going back.
They say that about Johnny Walker, too.
Oh, and a lobotomy.
And typhoid.
And if you haven't had a lobotomy or typhoid or been drunk on Johnny
Walker, does that make them nonexistent? or unable to cause the
effects they are known to cause?
You've missed the point. Heroin feels good, but it kills. Not
everything that feels good is good for you.
Oh. Okay. I thought you were denying His existence, which is what I
was responding to in Michael's comment.
Start thinking for a change - in the real world outside your
religion, your god is merely one of thousands of different religious
beliefs that are all equally irrelevant. SO NOBODY IS DENYING ANYTHING
BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REAL, IN THE REAL WORLD to do that.
Was that clear enough even for you?
Again, if you can think, try to understand the presumptions behind
your straw men, that the people you are attempting to describe and
invent perspectives for, don't even have.
It's not rocket science. But for starters, think of the implicit
presumptions behind "deny" - that it exists for them and they deny it.
In that case I have used the correct word. It is real, in the real
Liar. Twice in that line.
world.... Just because YOU don't want to believe it is real, doesn't
Liar. "Want" is nothing to do with it.
nullify its existence.
What "its existence", liar?
You have to prove that it is any more real than all the others you
don't believe either.
Why do you hide behind personal lies and other nastiness instead of
addressing the point, deliberately nasty liar?
Prove it is real, in the real world, or shut the ***** up about it.
And you know it is nothing to do with wanting, so why the deliberately
nasty, personal lie?
I have never seen your brain, so I don't think it exists..... I don't
deny you have a brain because it doesn't exist in order for me to deny
it..............
More deliberate nastiness. Which makes you a typical Christian, after
all we know you by your fruits.
(www.patrish.com/atheist.html)
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Re: Muslim women must read the life story of prophet Muhammad and they will understand why they have no human rights and are treated like dogs by their Muslim men who want to believe that the prophet was not a Satanic prophet possessed by Satan.
Child Protective Services, Corrupt, say it's not so! : twenty-one(21) judges have quit the bench in three targeted states (apparently inan attempt to save their pensions). Further, seven directors of state childprotective services agencies have st
Re: because their unbelief could not stop the future
Re: You Shall Not Be Forsaken My American Friends - Christ, and the True Red, White, and Blue - WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON? - CNN must, and WILL be tried for high treason for their demon lies broadcasting the northern alliance don't push dope, while the T
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