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"Truth Hunter" |
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01 Dec 2003 12:32:52 PM |
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True or False? and why? |
A Christian wrote me this.
Christians teach that when Jesus died it was the earthly human apart
of him that died. (and rose again) The pre-existent Word of God that
He always has been did not die.
What could possibly be true or false here?
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
05 Dec 2003 08:08:14 PM |
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"Truth Hunter" <hunter77099@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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A Christian wrote me this.
Christians teach that when Jesus died it was the earthly human apart
of him that died. (and rose again) The pre-existent Word of God that
He always has been did not die.
What could possibly be true or false here?
Jesus, if he ever existed, was an ordinary human being who was born, died
and never rose again. And there's no such thing as god, so there is no such
thing as the Word of god. That should answer your question.
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Peacenik
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
06 Dec 2003 06:10:42 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 02:08:14 GMT, "Peacenik"
<criskity999@com999cast.removeallnines.net> wrote:
Jesus, if he ever existed, was an ordinary human being who was born, died
and never rose again. And there's no such thing as god, so there is no such
thing as the Word of god. That should answer your question.
Is their any intelligence behind such a pronouncement like this? Like, do you
have any reason at all to say such a thing other than an unfounded desire to
just say "no" to God?
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| User: "Peacenik" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
06 Dec 2003 08:51:03 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 02:08:14 GMT, "Peacenik"
<criskity999@com999cast.removeallnines.net> wrote:
Jesus, if he ever existed, was an ordinary human being who was born, died
and never rose again. And there's no such thing as god, so there is no
such
thing as the Word of god. That should answer your question.
Is their any intelligence behind such a pronouncement like this?
Of course. Describing things as they really are is an intelligent thing to
do.
Like, do you
have any reason at all to say such a thing other than an unfounded desire
to
just say "no" to God?
How can I say "no" to something that isn't real?
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Peacenik
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| User: "TruthSeeker" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
01 Dec 2003 12:59:18 PM |
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"Truth Hunter" <hunter77099@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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A Christian wrote me this.
Christians teach that when Jesus died it was the earthly human apart
of him that died. (and rose again) The pre-existent Word of God that
He always has been did not die.
What could possibly be true or false here?
Well the first falsehood is that "Christians teach" this. It would imply
that ALL Christians teach this, or ALL Christians believe this. We know that
there are various sects or denominations of Christianity which often believe
differently then other sects (or denominations). Second, according to the
scripture, when Jesus died, he supposedly went and visited those in prison
(that is hell, or the grave). If it was only his body that died then the
Spirit (that is the Word of God) would not have been in him to preach to
those already passed on. Third, the bible plainly teaches that whenever
ANYONE dies, the body dies, but the Spirit returns to God. And the souls
sleeps till the day of judgement (or reckoning). I would think the only
EXCEPTION to this rule would have been Jesus (he actually decended to the
grave (aka hell) and then ascended to the earth and then ascended to heaven
(in both BODY and SPIRIT).
Of course, various Christians believe various things, and the only "truth"
is what one believes within them to be true, regardless of what their
religion tries to shove down their throats. Oh, and this just my own
opinion, based on my own perception of what I consider to be reality ;)
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| User: "John W" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
01 Dec 2003 09:03:22 PM |
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:59:18 -0500, "TruthSeeker"
<truths33ker69@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter77099@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e164e783.0312011032.469de4a4@posting.google.com...
A Christian wrote me this.
Christians teach that when Jesus died it was the earthly human apart
of him that died. (and rose again) The pre-existent Word of God that
He always has been did not die.
What could possibly be true or false here?
Well the first falsehood is that "Christians teach" this. It would imply
that ALL Christians teach this, or ALL Christians believe this. We know that
there are various sects or denominations of Christianity which often believe
differently then other sects (or denominations).
No matter what a person or group or "church" calls itself, if they do
not subscribe to the above teaching, in fact, they are not
"Christian." Just as certain basic beliefs are required to be Muslim,
and certain basic beliefs are required to be Mormon, if you do not
believe the Deity of Christ, and that the flesh part died, you are not
a "Christian."
Second, according to the
scripture, when Jesus died, he supposedly went and visited those in prison
(that is hell, or the grave). If it was only his body that died then the
Spirit (that is the Word of God) would not have been in him to preach to
those already passed on.
You, a gnostic (worshipper of man's knowledge) are trying to reason
God's nature. Don't.
Third, the bible plainly teaches that whenever
ANYONE dies, the body dies, but the Spirit returns to God. And the souls
sleeps till the day of judgement (or reckoning).
No, the Bible does NOT teach what you just stated. The Bible teaches
the exact opposite. Jesus told the thief who died beside Him that
they would both go to Heaven that very day.
I would think the only
EXCEPTION to this rule would have been Jesus (he actually decended to the
grave (aka hell) and then ascended to the earth and then ascended to heaven
(in both BODY and SPIRIT).
Of course, various Christians believe various things, and the only "truth"
is what one believes within them to be true, regardless of what their
religion tries to shove down their throats. Oh, and this just my own
opinion, based on my own perception of what I consider to be reality ;)
And of course, you are totally incorrect.
John W
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| User: "TruthSeeker" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
02 Dec 2003 12:14:39 AM |
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"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:59:18 -0500, "TruthSeeker"
<truths33ker69@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter77099@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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A Christian wrote me this.
Christians teach that when Jesus died it was the earthly human apart
of him that died. (and rose again) The pre-existent Word of God that
He always has been did not die.
What could possibly be true or false here?
Well the first falsehood is that "Christians teach" this. It would imply
that ALL Christians teach this, or ALL Christians believe this. We know
that
there are various sects or denominations of Christianity which often
believe
differently then other sects (or denominations).
No matter what a person or group or "church" calls itself, if they do
not subscribe to the above teaching, in fact, they are not
"Christian." Just as certain basic beliefs are required to be Muslim,
and certain basic beliefs are required to be Mormon, if you do not
believe the Deity of Christ, and that the flesh part died, you are not
a "Christian."
Second, according to the
scripture, when Jesus died, he supposedly went and visited those in
prison
(that is hell, or the grave). If it was only his body that died then the
Spirit (that is the Word of God) would not have been in him to preach to
those already passed on.
You, a gnostic (worshipper of man's knowledge) are trying to reason
God's nature. Don't.
I am not a gnostic. I am a non-religious theist, believing in the God within
me, and not in religion or books or other such nonsense. I'd suggest you
refrain from labeling me, and stick to the issues at hand. If you have
issues with what I said above, I would invite you to voice your opinion in
the matter, rather then trying to psychoanalyze my personality or faith.
Third, the bible plainly teaches that whenever
ANYONE dies, the body dies, but the Spirit returns to God. And the souls
sleeps till the day of judgement (or reckoning).
No, the Bible does NOT teach what you just stated. The Bible teaches
the exact opposite. Jesus told the thief who died beside Him that
they would both go to Heaven that very day.
No he did not say that. You are very loosely paraphrasing a verse and basing
your argument on that paraphrase. The verse does not say they would both to
go heaven that very day. Jesus said "Verily I say unto thee today shalt thou
be with me in paradise."
Since Jesus did not ascend to His father that day, but after he rose from
the grave (see John 20:17), and since this verse does not say anything about
heaven, but rather a garden (eq. paradise), I would say your point is moot.
As far as what I said (about the body dying and the spirit returning to God)
See Ecclesiastes 3:21 or 12:7... and as far as the soul sleeping, read John
11:11 (or any number of verses, where death is called or compared to a
"sleep"... starting from Genesis and working your way forward, you should
find plenty of references ;)
I would think the only
EXCEPTION to this rule would have been Jesus (he actually decended to the
grave (aka hell) and then ascended to the earth and then ascended to
heaven
(in both BODY and SPIRIT).
Of course, various Christians believe various things, and the only
"truth"
is what one believes within them to be true, regardless of what their
religion tries to shove down their throats. Oh, and this just my own
opinion, based on my own perception of what I consider to be reality ;)
And of course, you are totally incorrect.
Your quite welcome to your opinion, and I am waiting with anticipation for
you to show me where I am incorrect. Shall I hold my breath?
John W
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| User: "Rv Cloim" |
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01 Dec 2003 09:50:03 PM |
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:03:22 -0800, John W wrote:
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:59:18 -0500, "TruthSeeker"
<truths33ker69@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Truth Hunter" <hunter77099@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e164e783.0312011032.469de4a4@posting.google.com...
A Christian wrote me this.
Christians teach that when Jesus died it was the earthly human apart
of him that died. (and rose again) The pre-existent Word of God that
He always has been did not die.
What could possibly be true or false here?
Well the first falsehood is that "Christians teach" this. It would imply
that ALL Christians teach this, or ALL Christians believe this. We know that
there are various sects or denominations of Christianity which often believe
differently then other sects (or denominations).
No matter what a person or group or "church" calls itself, if they do
not subscribe to the above teaching, in fact, they are not
"Christian." Just as certain basic beliefs are required to be Muslim,
and certain basic beliefs are required to be Mormon, if you do not
believe the Deity of Christ, and that the flesh part died, you are not
a "Christian."
From the perspective of a non-Christian, why should your definition of
"Christian" be accepted over the definition of another "Christian"?
Their definitions make as much sense as yours and rely upon the same
documents for backing. I have no reason not to perceive them as
"Christians" even if you do not.
Second, according to the
scripture, when Jesus died, he supposedly went and visited those in prison
(that is hell, or the grave). If it was only his body that died then the
Spirit (that is the Word of God) would not have been in him to preach to
those already passed on.
You, a gnostic (worshipper of man's knowledge) are trying to reason
God's nature. Don't.
Gnostics do not worship knowledge. They worship god. Just not the way that
you do it.
I think the word your looking for is 'materialist'. Of course that doesn't
involve worship...
Third, the bible plainly teaches that whenever
ANYONE dies, the body dies, but the Spirit returns to God. And the souls
sleeps till the day of judgement (or reckoning).
No, the Bible does NOT teach what you just stated. The Bible teaches
the exact opposite. Jesus told the thief who died beside Him that
they would both go to Heaven that very day.
I've heard both versions. Complete with biblical references.
IMO your both wrong. The bible doesn't teach anything.
The bible is used by people to teach many things. Some people teach
others, some teach themselves. What they teach, and what they learn,
generally has more to do with the teacher and student than with the book
they are using.
Otherwise there would only be one Christian church, and I would have no
problem accepting your one and only definition of what "Christian" means.
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| User: "TruthSeeker" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
02 Dec 2003 12:17:59 AM |
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"Rv Cloim" <cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:03:22 -0800, John W wrote:
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:59:18 -0500, "TruthSeeker"
<truths33ker69@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snippidy-do-da>
Third, the bible plainly teaches that whenever
ANYONE dies, the body dies, but the Spirit returns to God. And the souls
sleeps till the day of judgement (or reckoning).
No, the Bible does NOT teach what you just stated. The Bible teaches
the exact opposite. Jesus told the thief who died beside Him that
they would both go to Heaven that very day.
I've heard both versions. Complete with biblical references.
IMO your both wrong. The bible doesn't teach anything.
The bible is used by people to teach many things. Some people teach
others, some teach themselves. What they teach, and what they learn,
generally has more to do with the teacher and student than with the book
they are using.
Otherwise there would only be one Christian church, and I would have no
problem accepting your one and only definition of what "Christian" means.
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed out the
obvious...
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| User: "John W" |
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02 Dec 2003 04:14:35 AM |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 01:17:59 -0500, "TruthSeeker"
<truths33ker69@yahoo.com> wrote:
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"Rv Cloim" <cloim@propylaea.tor.org> wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Dec 2003 19:03:22 -0800, John W wrote:
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On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 13:59:18 -0500, "TruthSeeker"
<truths33ker69@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snippidy-do-da>
Third, the bible plainly teaches that whenever
ANYONE dies, the body dies, but the Spirit returns to God. And the souls
sleeps till the day of judgement (or reckoning).
No, the Bible does NOT teach what you just stated. The Bible teaches
the exact opposite. Jesus told the thief who died beside Him that
they would both go to Heaven that very day.
I've heard both versions. Complete with biblical references.
IMO your both wrong. The bible doesn't teach anything.
The bible is used by people to teach many things. Some people teach
others, some teach themselves. What they teach, and what they learn,
generally has more to do with the teacher and student than with the book
they are using.
Otherwise there would only be one Christian church, and I would have no
problem accepting your one and only definition of what "Christian" means.
Your assumption is incorrect. There were several ( I count 4)
different churches in Christ's day, and He totally approved. There is
nothing ungodly about Seventh Day Adventists worshipping on Sabbath
(Saturday) just as there's nothing ungodly about non-Adventist
Christians worshipping on the Lord's Day (Sunday). Which day we
worship does not matter to God, but it matters to some people And
since there is a significant difference of opinion on this issue,
those who wish to worship on Sabbath do so, and they have their own
church, and we who worship on Sunday have our own churches, both
groups are happy, God is worshipped, "no harm, no foul." And there are
THOUSANDS of minor differences that make it impossible for several
hundred million people to worship together, differences that are
irrelevant to God, but important to man.
God doesn't care if women wear trousers or dresses, but some
Christians consider this an issue. Therefore, those who refuse to
allow their women to wear pants have their own church; those who see
that that issue doesn't matter have their own churches.
And your flippancy in this regard proves that the truth is irrelevant
to you.
John W
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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02 Dec 2003 05:14:34 AM |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
And the sooner you realise this the sooner you will stop making such
an idiot of yourself.
It is not "the truth". It is merely what INSIDE YOUR RELIGION you
believe to be the truth. Outside it, it's just something somebody
else's religion believes.
It's another example of how your religion has compromised your thought
processes: it is a false dichotomy meant for the simple-minded to
choose between true and false for emotional not intellectual reasons.
Which leaves out what it ACTUALLY is: a religious belief that is
neither true nor false but what certain gullible people believe to be
true.
But you won't let it be that - so it becaomes false because it
certainly isn't "the truth".
And accusing others of being "blind to the truth" is a slnanderously
nasty falsehood.
It is an in-your-face personal lie perpetrated by YOU YOURSELF. And
your religion has blinded you to just how offensive this is.
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| User: "John W" |
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02 Dec 2003 04:51:21 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
MT 16:1 The Pharisees and Sadducees came to Jesus and tested him by
asking him to show them a sign from heaven.
MT 16:2 He replied, "When evening comes, you say, `It will be fair
weather, for the sky is red,' 3 and in the morning, `Today it will be
stormy, for the sky is red and overcast.' You know how to interpret
the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the
times.
Any person from a weatherman to a sailor to a fisher man will tell you
the bit about the red sky is 100 % right on. Right from the lips of
Jesus.
And the sooner you realise this the sooner you will stop making such
an idiot of yourself.
Considering all the truths in the Bible that you have missed, "a man's
heart is desperately wicked..." applies to you. "The fool has said
in his heart, there is no God." Applies to you.
It is not "the truth". It is merely what INSIDE YOUR RELIGION you
believe to be the truth. Outside it, it's just something somebody
else's religion believes.
You know, you really should not review a book you haven't read. That
is the epitome of ignorance (self-imposed) and bigotry.
John W
It's another example of how your religion has compromised your thought
processes:
You haven't yet explained why some of the most educated men on the
planet (the Bible scholars who read/write the ancient Hebrew and
Greek) have found truths within that were / are worthy of dedicating
their lives to.
ALL my pastors for 50 + years have been Dr. this and Dr. that.
it is a false dichotomy meant for the simple-minded to
choose between true and false for emotional not intellectual reasons.
I am an intellectual. If the Bible didn't appeal to me intellectually,
if Christianity didn't appeal to me intellectually, I wouldn't believe
it. SADLY, you believe what demons have taught you, and you aren't
intelligent or open enough to read the Bible and decide for yourself.
Besides, the Christians in the world have done FAR more for the world
than the atheists and Satan worshippers.
Look around the world and count the hospitals and colleges and
universities Christians have built. Those who stayed behind when Bush
ordered all Americans out of Iraq included Christian missionaries.
And during the initial bombing, half a dozen Christian missionaries
were killed.
They gave their lives for their faith, as we are called upon to do.
And now you have wasted enough of my time.
John W
Which leaves out what it ACTUALLY is: a religious belief that is
neither true nor false but what certain gullible people believe to be
true.
But you won't let it be that - so it becaomes false because it
certainly isn't "the truth".
And accusing others of being "blind to the truth" is a slnanderously
nasty falsehood.
It is an in-your-face personal lie perpetrated by YOU YOURSELF. And
your religion has blinded you to just how offensive this is.
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02 Dec 2003 05:37:53 PM |
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"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
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| User: "galia" |
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02 Dec 2003 08:11:01 PM |
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"Cy Rot" <Achirami@warriors.com> wrote in message
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"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you have to reshape this 'H' again. Remember into a 'W'!!!!!!!!
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02 Dec 2003 09:27:16 PM |
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"galia" <galia@jims.com> wrote in message
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"Cy Rot" <Achirami@warriors.com> wrote in message
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"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you
pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way
to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John W, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you have to reshape this 'H' again. Remember into a 'W'!!!!!!!!
Yes, ujb also noticed that. Don't tell John H. That was the third time I
screwed up. I may be threepolar. Have a sister who's 101. She's been senile
for the last 15 tears or so. Be patient, I won't live that long. :-) Sorry
again John H.
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03 Dec 2003 09:44:14 AM |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 21:11:01 -0500, "galia" <galia@jims.com> wrote:
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"Cy Rot" <Achirami@warriors.com> wrote in message
news:dn9zb.6820$zf2.926743@news20.bellglobal.com...
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com...
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you have to reshape this 'H' again. Remember into a 'W'!!!!!!!!
Gee whiz!!!! As demonically dumb as galia has turned out to be, s/he
can tell an "H" from a "W".
Now fancy that? Who woulda thunk?
John W
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02 Dec 2003 05:50:42 PM |
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Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com...
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
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| User: "Cy Rot" |
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02 Dec 2003 06:33:25 PM |
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"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message news:3FCD2552.6CB4D8FD@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com...
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you
pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way
to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
That is not being cruel ujb. I'm sincere. Since I realized that the stories
he writes about himself are invented stories, I enjoy some of them but when
it comes to biblical interpretation, the guy is way off centre field, he's
completly lost. There's an interesting debate going on and all of a sudden
that bufoon shows up and jumps around like a chicken with it's head cut-off.
I mean you feel like taking that little ***** by the collar, lead him to the
door and give him a good kick in the *****.
He's a ***** fly and deposits his ***** everywhere he posts.
And you think you're smart? You sent him money so he can buy more pot and
further annoy? I'm surprised at you. :-)
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| User: "ujb" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
02 Dec 2003 07:27:35 PM |
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Cy Rot wrote:
"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message news:3FCD2552.6CB4D8FD@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com...
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you
pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way
to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
That is not being cruel ujb. I'm sincere.
You might be sincere, but you attribute to John H what is told by
JohnW. Now that's cruel!
ujb
Since I realized that the stories
he writes about himself are invented stories, I enjoy some of them but when
it comes to biblical interpretation, the guy is way off centre field, he's
completly lost. There's an interesting debate going on and all of a sudden
that bufoon shows up and jumps around like a chicken with it's head cut-off.
I mean you feel like taking that little ***** by the collar, lead him to the
door and give him a good kick in the *****.
He's a ***** fly and deposits his ***** everywhere he posts.
And you think you're smart? You sent him money so he can buy more pot and
further annoy? I'm surprised at you. :-)
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| User: "Cy Rot" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
02 Dec 2003 07:56:21 PM |
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"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message news:3FCD3C07.80DF92E2@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message
news:3FCD2552.6CB4D8FD@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com...
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I
shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you
pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the
way
to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside
tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is
an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says
things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is
history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25
or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others,
and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are
RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says
it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible
says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight.
The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is
round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John W, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the
Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing
about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
That is not being cruel ujb. I'm sincere.
You might be sincere, but you attribute to John H what is told by
JohnW. Now that's cruel!
ujb
I keep changing that 'H' for a 'W' and yet one will slip by. John Hennekes
doesn't write fabricated stories, John Weatherley does. Got to find a name
for that twit who uses the John W moniker.
Since I realized that the stories
he writes about himself are invented stories, I enjoy some of them but
when
it comes to biblical interpretation, the guy is way off centre field,
he's
completly lost. There's an interesting debate going on and all of a
sudden
that bufoon shows up and jumps around like a chicken with it's head
cut-off.
I mean you feel like taking that little ***** by the collar, lead him to
the
door and give him a good kick in the *****.
He's a ***** fly and deposits his ***** everywhere he posts.
And you think you're smart? You sent him money so he can buy more pot
and
further annoy? I'm surprised at you. :-)
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| User: "ujb" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
02 Dec 2003 08:17:14 PM |
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Cy Rot wrote:
"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message news:3FCD3C07.80DF92E2@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message
news:3FCD2552.6CB4D8FD@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com...
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I
shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you
pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the
way
to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside
tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is
an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says
things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is
history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25
or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others,
and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are
RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says
it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible
says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight.
The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is
round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John W, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the
Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing
about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
That is not being cruel ujb. I'm sincere.
You might be sincere, but you attribute to John H what is told by
JohnW. Now that's cruel!
ujb
I keep changing that 'H' for a 'W' and yet one will slip by. John Hennekes
doesn't write fabricated stories, John Weatherley does. Got to find a name
for that twit who uses the John W moniker.
I really thought I had the name, but 'me lidy' got mad at her
ujie, so for her I stopped calling JohnW 'the scrambled one'.
Ain't love grand!! :)
ujb
Since I realized that the stories
he writes about himself are invented stories, I enjoy some of them but
when
it comes to biblical interpretation, the guy is way off centre field,
he's
completly lost. There's an interesting debate going on and all of a
sudden
that bufoon shows up and jumps around like a chicken with it's head
cut-off.
I mean you feel like taking that little ***** by the collar, lead him to
the
door and give him a good kick in the *****.
He's a ***** fly and deposits his ***** everywhere he posts.
And you think you're smart? You sent him money so he can buy more pot
and
further annoy? I'm surprised at you. :-)
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
03 Dec 2003 09:42:12 AM |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:27:35 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote:
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Cy Rot wrote:
"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message news:3FCD2552.6CB4D8FD@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com...
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you
pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way
to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
That is not being cruel ujb. I'm sincere.
You might be sincere, but you attribute to John H what is told by
JohnW. Now that's cruel!
That's not cruelty. That merely indicates that Cy is an even bigger
idiot-demon/Sadist wannabe then Jimmy.
John W
ujb
Since I realized that the stories
he writes about himself are invented stories, I enjoy some of them but when
it comes to biblical interpretation, the guy is way off centre field, he's
completly lost. There's an interesting debate going on and all of a sudden
that bufoon shows up and jumps around like a chicken with it's head cut-off.
I mean you feel like taking that little ***** by the collar, lead him to the
door and give him a good kick in the *****.
He's a ***** fly and deposits his ***** everywhere he posts.
And you think you're smart? You sent him money so he can buy more pot and
further annoy? I'm surprised at you. :-)
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
05 Dec 2003 03:37:42 AM |
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"John W
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:27:35 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
Cy Rot wrote:
"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message news:3FCD2552.6CB4D8FD@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com...
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you
pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way
to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
That is not being cruel ujb. I'm sincere.
You might be sincere, but you attribute to John H what is told by
JohnW. Now that's cruel!
That's not cruelty. That merely indicates that Cy is an even bigger
idiot-demon/Sadist wannabe then Jimmy.
You invited Jimmy to the party! Jimmy plays your game, now you
want to take the ball and go home. Don't give out if you can't
take Johnny... :)
John W
ujb
Since I realized that the stories
he writes about himself are invented stories, I enjoy some of them but when
it comes to biblical interpretation, the guy is way off centre field, he's
completly lost. There's an interesting debate going on and all of a sudden
that bufoon shows up and jumps around like a chicken with it's head cut-off.
I mean you feel like taking that little ***** by the collar, lead him to the
door and give him a good kick in the *****.
He's a ***** fly and deposits his ***** everywhere he posts.
And you think you're smart? You sent him money so he can buy more pot and
further annoy? I'm surprised at you. :-)
.
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| User: "Cy Rot" |
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| Title: Re: True or False? and why? |
03 Dec 2003 11:43:27 AM |
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"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
news:k01ssvk5cm42ivmkgfkhfb3if9l6s75p3k@4ax.com...
x-no-archive:yes
On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 20:27:35 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote:
x-no-archive:yes
Cy Rot wrote:
"ujb" <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote in message
news:3FCD2552.6CB4D8FD@bigfot.com...
Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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John W, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the
Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing
about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
Since I realized that the stories
he writes about himself are invented stories, I enjoy some of them but
when
it comes to biblical interpretation, the guy is way off centre field,
he's
completly lost. There's an interesting debate going on and all of a
sudden
that bufoon shows up and jumps around like a chicken with it's head
cut-off.
I mean you feel like taking that little ***** by the collar, lead him to
the
door and give him a good kick in the *****.
He's a ***** fly and deposits his ***** everywhere he posts.
And you think you're smart? You sent him money so he can buy more pot
and
further annoy? I'm surprised at you. :-)
That is not being cruel ujb. I'm sincere.
You might be sincere, but you attribute to John W what is told by
JohnW. Now that's cruel!
That's not cruelty. That merely indicates that Cy is an even bigger
idiot-demon/Sadist wannabe then Jimmy.
John W
ujb
"one man's faith is another man's poison."
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03 Dec 2003 09:40:43 AM |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 19:33:25 -0500, "Cy Rot" <Achirami@warriors.com>
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Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you
pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way
to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible
is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
That is not being cruel ujb. I'm sincere. Since I realized that the stories
he writes about himself are invented stories,
Prove it, demonic liar! As stated already, most of the stories I have
told in here are fully documented.
John W
I enjoy some of them but when
it comes to biblical interpretation, the guy is way off centre field, he's
completly lost. There's an interesting debate going on and all of a sudden
that bufoon shows up and jumps around like a chicken with it's head cut-off.
I mean you feel like taking that little ***** by the collar, lead him to the
door and give him a good kick in the *****.
He's a ***** fly and deposits his ***** everywhere he posts.
And you think you're smart? You sent him money so he can buy more pot and
further annoy? I'm surprised at you. :-)
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03 Dec 2003 09:39:25 AM |
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:50:42 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote:
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Cy Rot wrote:
"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
Naughty little Jimmy, the wanna be Sadist!
I need your e-mail address so I can return your filthy lucre.
John W
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 18:50:42 -0500, ujb <ujb@bigfot.com> wrote:
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"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Cy, you are cruel! But funny!! :)
ujb
Naughty little Jimmy, the wanna be Sadist!
I need your e-mail address so I can return your filthy lucre.
It was everything you ask, you took and now it's not right? If
you need more or wish you had ask for more or a better gift it's
not to late John, but you'll not steal my joy as Elaine is trying
to do yours by returning what was sent! John what you took was
given without repentance.
Merry Xmas,
Jimmy
John W
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03 Dec 2003 09:38:11 AM |
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On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 18:37:53 -0500, "Cy Rot" <Achirami@warriors.com>
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"John W @yahoo.com>" <john_weatherly47<no> wrote in message
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall
probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed
out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history.
And there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or
more churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and
lo and behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT
where the Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it
is, as is Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says
it is, and I could go on.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
John H, may I give you an advise. You haven't got a clue what the Bible is
all about. Why do you enter debates on subjects you know nothing about?
Stick to story telling. That's all you're good for.
Your confusion continues, I see, demon. I am not John H. I am John W.
And you may think what you like.
But I DO appreciate your comment that my story telling skills are
good. They should be. I am a professionally trained witer/author with
numerous awards after my name. I helped organize an international
charity. But enough about my accomplishments. I am certain the facts
are of no interest to you.
John W
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In <f75qsv0bgdkno8acn9s0aulssbn19enocf@4ax.com>, on 12/02/2003
at 02:51 PM, John W <john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> said:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:14:34 GMT, Christopher A. Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
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On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 02:14:35 -0800, John W
<john_weatherly47<no>@yahoo.com> wrote:
You know what? You have a real good point. Thanks alot :) I shall probably
never use the phrase "the bible teaches" again, now that you pointed out the
obvious...
The Bible teaches lots of things if the demonic spirits weren't
blinding you to the truth. It teaches us the way to God and the way to
salvation.
When are you going to learn to deal with the real world outside tyour
religion?
Your book of mythology doesn't "teach" anything at all. That is an
example of how the religion controls your thoughts. It says things
that have no relevance outside your religion.
That is absurd. There is science in the Bible. And there is history. And
As to the science, care to point out to the audience your biblical
science?? Don't think so, for if you do you know it will be refuted by
someone that knows more [not much effort required there] than you do.
there is faith. The history includes the fact that roughly 25 or more
The claimed history that archealoogy has found to be false. Exodus for
one, the creation of the earth for another, the destruction of Ai &
Jericho are prime example of biblical history gone wrong. So tell everyone
just who was the Pharoh that drowned in the Red Sea as claimed by your
grimorie? Or better yet, lets do a detailed analysis of the eloheim of
Egypt.
churches were built in the 1st century, by Paul and others, and lo and
BFD, that is an indication that there were xians around, & that is all it
is. Your fears have urnwed whatyou call your brain into recycled
Pablum[tm[].
behold, the churches mentioned in the New Testament are RIGHT where the
Bible says they are! Jerusalem is where the Bible says it is, as is
Seeing as Jerusalem was thje center for the yaweh cult which became the
official cult of the Jewish myth, you find thatsurpring. Of course you do.
As to Egypt, do you suppose that being on the trade route & the coastal
roadway had anything to do with that?? Actually, are you capable of
coherent thought on this subject?
Egypt, as is Bethlehem. The Red Sea is where the Bible says it is, and I
could go on.
BTW, Egypt was a world power before your grimorie was even conceived of.
It, along with several world powers predate your grimorie. So antiquity is
not a thing to brag on.
Plese do, & then you can show how this knowledge is so special that only
your grimorie can be trusted for the true skinny on those locations. BTW,
you can't. Read gone with the wind, it is the same as your grimorie,
historical fiction. & just as boreing.
You are so brainwashed by the infidels you can't think straight. The
As oppposed to you who apparently can't even think for himself??
Bible is the first ancient document to reveal that the earth is round,
and Jesus even taught us about the weather, in the 1st C AD.
Nope, & it is claimed that someone named Jesus was around in the +1G era.
As to the weather knowledge, what makes you so stupid as to assume he
wasn't repeating comon knowledge?? Or is that a side effect of paralysis
from the eyebrows up??
SNIP pablum
Any person from a weatherman to a sailor to a fisher man will tell you
the bit about the red sky is 100 % right on. Right from the lips of
Jesus.
And anyone living where weather is important knows that is not 100%
accute. So your point is you don't have a point & must rely on mythical
charecters. You could saved youreself the effort. In your case that is
pretty much taken for granted.
And the sooner you realise this the sooner you will stop making such
an idiot of yourself.
Considering all the truths in the Bible that you have missed, "a man's
Which truths, the ones you claim, or the ones you twist to mean what you
want. As science its a failure, as history it is mediocre, as a guide for
living, there are better ones. Some don't even require gods.
heart is desperately wicked..." applies to you. "The fool has said in
Which means your pimp on a stick was one evil dude. No argument there,
presuming that it lived.
his heart, there is no God." Applies to you.
No, it doesn't, it applies to you for you refuse to recognise the gods in
your pantheon & you attempt to tell others what those gods want & like &
dislike. Strange how it macthes your bizarre view of the world, well, not
really.
As to the fool proclaiming anything about gods, the wise man proclaims it
to the world. But do you think any god would be pleased having a liar for
a spokesperson, or that such a god would be worthy of worship.
It is not "the truth". It is merely what INSIDE YOUR RELIGION you
believe to be the truth. Outside it, it's just something somebody
else's religion believes.
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