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"johac" |
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24 Mar 2005 01:52:30 AM |
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"True Pope" dies. |
Where did these looneys come from?
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'True Pope' Sect Leader Dies
Wed Mar 23,10:41 AM ET
MADRID (Reuters) - The leader of a secretive Spanish sect who said he
was the true Pope and that the Vatican (news - web sites) was controlled
by the devil has died, a town hall official said Tuesday.
Gregorio XVII, 58, was the leader of a self-styled church whose
followers believed he would be crucified before a kind of apocalypse
would take place.
Gregorio believed God crowned him after Pope Paul VI's death in 1978 and
he rejected changes made to the Catholic church in the 1960s such as
saying mass in local languages rather than Latin and dialogue with other
branches of Christianity.
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
The sect, based in the southern Spanish town of El Palmar de Troya but
with members from as far away as the United States, conferred sainthood
on former Spanish dictator Francisco Franco (news - web sites). A town
hall official said Gregorio had died, although she could not confirm
when. A local police officer said the bells at the vast walled church
complex had been ringing for about an hour Tuesday morning.
Officials at the church declined to comment on reports of Gregorio's
death and whether anyone would succeed him.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=8&u=/nm/20
050323/od_nm/odd_spain_sect_dc
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense,
founded on the Christian religion..."
Joel Barlow, Treaty of Tripoli (1796)
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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25 Mar 2005 09:17:02 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:52:30 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpres.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Where did these looneys come from?
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'True Pope' Sect Leader Dies
Wed Mar 23,10:41 AM ET
MADRID (Reuters) - The leader of a secretive Spanish sect who said he
was the true Pope and that the Vatican (news - web sites) was controlled
by the devil has died, a town hall official said Tuesday.
Gregorio XVII, 58, was the leader of a self-styled church whose
followers believed he would be crucified before a kind of apocalypse
would take place.
Gregorio believed God crowned him after Pope Paul VI's death in 1978 and
he rejected changes made to the Catholic church in the 1960s such as
saying mass in local languages rather than Latin and dialogue with other
branches of Christianity.
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
The sect, based in the southern Spanish town of El Palmar de Troya but
with members from as far away as the United States, conferred sainthood
on former Spanish dictator Francisco Franco (news - web sites). A town
hall official said Gregorio had died, although she could not confirm
when. A local police officer said the bells at the vast walled church
complex had been ringing for about an hour Tuesday morning.
Officials at the church declined to comment on reports of Gregorio's
death and whether anyone would succeed him.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=8&u=/nm/20
050323/od_nm/odd_spain_sect_dc
He is not alone. There is another "true" pope. There is also "Pope
Pius XII" from the USA. He is of course the head of the "Truecatholic
Church".
Lucian Pulvermacher
A bio of Lucian Pulvemacher
http://www.ruv.net/infopedia/lu/Lucian_Pulvermacher.html
Truecatholic website
The seb site of Lucian Pulvermacher (Pius XIII)
http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: "True Pope" dies. |
27 Mar 2005 02:27:39 AM |
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In article <MPG.1caf6a19f57264cd98a0b7@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <abuse@optusnet,com.au> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:52:30 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpres.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Where did these looneys come from?
---
'True Pope' Sect Leader Dies
Wed Mar 23,10:41 AM ET
MADRID (Reuters) - The leader of a secretive Spanish sect who said he
was the true Pope and that the Vatican (news - web sites) was controlled
by the devil has died, a town hall official said Tuesday.
Gregorio XVII, 58, was the leader of a self-styled church whose
followers believed he would be crucified before a kind of apocalypse
would take place.
Gregorio believed God crowned him after Pope Paul VI's death in 1978 and
he rejected changes made to the Catholic church in the 1960s such as
saying mass in local languages rather than Latin and dialogue with other
branches of Christianity.
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
The sect, based in the southern Spanish town of El Palmar de Troya but
with members from as far away as the United States, conferred sainthood
on former Spanish dictator Francisco Franco (news - web sites). A town
hall official said Gregorio had died, although she could not confirm
when. A local police officer said the bells at the vast walled church
complex had been ringing for about an hour Tuesday morning.
Officials at the church declined to comment on reports of Gregorio's
death and whether anyone would succeed him.
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=8&u=/nm/20
050323/od_nm/odd_spain_sect_dc
He is not alone. There is another "true" pope. There is also "Pope
Pius XII" from the USA. He is of course the head of the "Truecatholic
Church".
Lucian Pulvermacher
A bio of Lucian Pulvemacher
http://www.ruv.net/infopedia/lu/Lucian_Pulvermacher.html
Truecatholic website
The seb site of Lucian Pulvermacher (Pius XIII)
http://www.truecatholic.org/pope/
It seems as if the woods are full of 'popes'. Thanks for the refs. I
didn't know about that guy.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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25 Mar 2005 08:59:11 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:52:30 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpres.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Where did these looneys come from?
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'True Pope' Sect Leader Dies
Wed Mar 23,10:41 AM ET
MADRID (Reuters) - The leader of a secretive Spanish sect who said he
was the true Pope and that the Vatican (news - web sites) was controlled
by the devil has died, a town hall official said Tuesday.
Gregorio XVII, 58, was the leader of a self-styled church whose
followers believed he would be crucified before a kind of apocalypse
would take place.
Gregorio believed God crowned him after Pope Paul VI's death in 1978 and
he rejected changes made to the Catholic church in the 1960s such as
saying mass in local languages rather than Latin and dialogue with other
branches of Christianity.
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
The sect, based in the southern Spanish town of El Palmar de Troya but
with members from as far away as the United States, conferred sainthood
on former Spanish dictator Francisco Franco (news - web sites). A town
hall official said Gregorio had died, although she could not confirm
when. A local police officer said the bells at the vast walled church
complex had been ringing for about an hour Tuesday morning.
Officials at the church declined to comment on reports of Gregorio's
death and whether anyone would succeed him.
Bio of Clemente Dominguez y Gomez (Gregory XVII)
http://www.ruv.net/infopedia/cl/Clemente_Dominguez_y_Gomez.html
The web site of Clemente Dominguez y Gomez (Gregory XVII)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/7170/ibio1.htm
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: "True Pope" dies. |
27 Mar 2005 02:30:25 AM |
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In article <MPG.1caf65f47ef25d1698a0b6@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <abuse@optusnet,com.au> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:52:30 -0800 the ET form known as
johac<jhachm@ixpres.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Where did these looneys come from?
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'True Pope' Sect Leader Dies
Wed Mar 23,10:41 AM ET
MADRID (Reuters) - The leader of a secretive Spanish sect who said he
was the true Pope and that the Vatican (news - web sites) was controlled
by the devil has died, a town hall official said Tuesday.
Gregorio XVII, 58, was the leader of a self-styled church whose
followers believed he would be crucified before a kind of apocalypse
would take place.
Gregorio believed God crowned him after Pope Paul VI's death in 1978 and
he rejected changes made to the Catholic church in the 1960s such as
saying mass in local languages rather than Latin and dialogue with other
branches of Christianity.
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
The sect, based in the southern Spanish town of El Palmar de Troya but
with members from as far away as the United States, conferred sainthood
on former Spanish dictator Francisco Franco (news - web sites). A town
hall official said Gregorio had died, although she could not confirm
when. A local police officer said the bells at the vast walled church
complex had been ringing for about an hour Tuesday morning.
Officials at the church declined to comment on reports of Gregorio's
death and whether anyone would succeed him.
Bio of Clemente Dominguez y Gomez (Gregory XVII)
http://www.ruv.net/infopedia/cl/Clemente_Dominguez_y_Gomez.html
The web site of Clemente Dominguez y Gomez (Gregory XVII)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Lair/7170/ibio1.htm
Yeow! These guys are loonier than I thought.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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26 Mar 2005 09:06:37 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 23:52:30 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
Where did these looneys come from?
Texas, Talibama, Kansas.......(tic)
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'True Pope' Sect Leader Dies
Wed Mar 23,10:41 AM ET
MADRID (Reuters) - The leader of a secretive Spanish sect who said he
was the true Pope and that the Vatican (news - web sites) was controlled
by the devil has died, a town hall official said Tuesday.
Gregorio XVII, 58, was the leader of a self-styled church whose
followers believed he would be crucified before a kind of apocalypse
would take place.
Gregorio believed God crowned him after Pope Paul VI's death in 1978 and
he rejected changes made to the Catholic church in the 1960s such as
saying mass in local languages rather than Latin and dialogue with other
branches of Christianity.
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
The sect, based in the southern Spanish town of El Palmar de Troya but
with members from as far away as the United States, conferred sainthood
on former Spanish dictator Francisco Franco (news - web sites). A town
hall official said Gregorio had died, although she could not confirm
when. A local police officer said the bells at the vast walled church
complex had been ringing for about an hour Tuesday morning.
Officials at the church declined to comment on reports of Gregorio's
death and whether anyone would succeed him.
---
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=573&ncid=757&e=8&u=/nm/20
050323/od_nm/odd_spain_sect_dc
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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24 Mar 2005 01:54:16 PM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
Perhaps a car will be the next idol that the cult followers hang
around their neck?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Mar 2005 02:25:25 AM |
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In article <3m6641tbv4uf6cvb9p51nol0ie3ka52ejr@4ax.com>,
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
Perhaps a car will be the next idol that the cult followers hang
around their neck?
Then they'll be erecting 50 ft. statues of cars on mountain tops.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "MsAnthrope" |
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24 Mar 2005 09:34:50 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:54:16 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
Perhaps a car will be the next idol that the cult followers hang
around their neck?
The car that drowned Mary Jo Kopechne?
--
MsAnthrope
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 Mar 2005 06:21:16 PM |
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:34:50 -0800, MsAnthrope <ms@nthr.ope> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:54:16 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
Perhaps a car will be the next idol that the cult followers hang
around their neck?
The car that drowned Mary Jo Kopechne?
That would cost a pretty Kopeck.......and be a tad heavy.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "MsAnthrope" |
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27 Mar 2005 09:04:52 PM |
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In article <6fje41hubdgtllkc6bu5ll0fq44lnt24p0@4ax.com>, stoney says...
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:34:50 -0800, MsAnthrope <ms@nthr.ope> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:54:16 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
Perhaps a car will be the next idol that the cult followers hang
around their neck?
The car that drowned Mary Jo Kopechne?
That would cost a pretty Kopeck.......and be a tad heavy.
Negative bouyancy is kind of the point.
--
MsAnthrope
http://web.newsguy.com/rubyred
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| User: "stoney" |
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29 Mar 2005 10:44:29 AM |
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On 27 Mar 2005 19:04:52 -0800, MsAnthrope <ms@nthr.ope> wrote:
In article <6fje41hubdgtllkc6bu5ll0fq44lnt24p0@4ax.com>, stoney says...
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:34:50 -0800, MsAnthrope <ms@nthr.ope> wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 19:54:16 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Information packages handed out at the vast cathedral-like complex show
pictures of Gregorio, who lost his eyes in a car crash, with bleeding
hands, forehead and torso similar to the wounds of Christ on the cross.
Perhaps a car will be the next idol that the cult followers hang
around their neck?
The car that drowned Mary Jo Kopechne?
That would cost a pretty Kopeck.......and be a tad heavy.
Negative bouyancy is kind of the point.
Cool. So a collection is being taken to provide one to each member of
Congress as well as the Executive Branch, the AG slot, and
Fundamentalist 'philanthropists' intent on treason?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "jwk" |
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29 Mar 2005 10:50:32 AM |
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johac wrote:
Where did these looneys come from?
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'True Pope' Sect Leader Dies
Wed Mar 23,10:41 AM ET
MADRID (Reuters) - The leader of a secretive Spanish sect who said he
was the true Pope and that the Vatican (news - web sites) was
controlled
by the devil has died, a town hall official said Tuesday.
Gregorio XVII, 58, was the leader of a self-styled church whose
followers believed he would be crucified before a kind of apocalypse
would take place.
Gregorio believed God crowned him after Pope Paul VI's death in 1978
and
he rejected changes made to the Catholic church in the 1960s such as
saying mass in local languages rather than Latin
Because everyone knows that God=A9 only speaks Latin.
and dialogue with other branches of Christianity.
Christian love, humility and fellowship.
jwk
BAAWA
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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29 Mar 2005 09:47:00 PM |
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On 29 Mar 2005 08:50:32 -0800 the ET form known as
jwk<jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Because everyone knows that Godİ only speaks Latin.
No he doesn't. He speaks King James English ;-)
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
Sunday: A day given over by Americans to wishing that they themselves
were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
-Mencken
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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30 Mar 2005 12:11:25 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 13:17:00 +0930 in alt.atheism, Meteorite Debris
<abuse@optusnet,com.au> (Meteorite Debris <abuse@optusnet,com.au>)
said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
On 29 Mar 2005 08:50:32 -0800 the ET form known as
jwk<jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Because everyone knows that Godİ only speaks Latin.
No he doesn't. He speaks King James English ;-)
With a Scottish accent!
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| User: "johac" |
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30 Mar 2005 01:25:29 AM |
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In article <MPG.1cb4b723fdf5877998a0cb@news.optusnet.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <abuse@optusnet,com.au> wrote:
On 29 Mar 2005 08:50:32 -0800 the ET form known as
jwk<jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Because everyone knows that Godİ only speaks Latin.
No he doesn't. He speaks King James English ;-)
Of course. It says so in the Bible. :-)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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