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14 Oct 2005 07:39:44 AM |
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Trust God or secular science with your child's life. |
Polio Outbreak Occurs Among Amish Families In Minnesota
By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page A03
The first outbreak of polio in the United States in 26 years occurred
earlier this fall in an Amish community in central Minnesota, state and
federal health officials reported yesterday.
Four children have been infected with the virus, although none has become
paralyzed. The Amish typically decline to vaccinate their children. The
last large outbreak of polio occurred in numerous Amish communities in
several states in 1979.
[more: http://tinyurl.com/98bzg ]
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
"Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice
of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of
increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to
all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear."
-- Harry S. Truman, message to Congress, August 8, 1950
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Trust God or secular science with your child's life. |
14 Oct 2005 12:15:46 PM |
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Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Polio Outbreak Occurs Among Amish Families In Minnesota
By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page A03
The first outbreak of polio in the United States in 26 years occurred
earlier this fall in an Amish community in central Minnesota, state and
federal health officials reported yesterday.
Four children have been infected with the virus, although none has become
paralyzed. The Amish typically decline to vaccinate their children. The
last large outbreak of polio occurred in numerous Amish communities in
several states in 1979.
[more: http://tinyurl.com/98bzg ]
Did you read the whole article? "The infections were traced to an oral
vaccine that was administered in another country, probably within the
last three years."
Oral vaccines using live cultures were replaced in the U.S.in favor of
injections with dead cultures precisely because of the risk of
contracting polio. Their religious beliefs had nothing to do with it.
In fact, the cases were discovered because a child was receiving proper
medical treatment for a "severe immune deficiency" disorder and was
being tested for something else.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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| Title: Re: Trust God or secular science with your child's life. |
14 Oct 2005 01:29:43 PM |
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"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> writes:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Polio Outbreak Occurs Among Amish Families In Minnesota
By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page A03
The first outbreak of polio in the United States in 26 years occurred
earlier this fall in an Amish community in central Minnesota, state and
federal health officials reported yesterday.
Four children have been infected with the virus, although none has become
paralyzed. The Amish typically decline to vaccinate their children. The
last large outbreak of polio occurred in numerous Amish communities in
several states in 1979.
[more: http://tinyurl.com/98bzg ]
Did you read the whole article? "The infections were traced to an oral
vaccine that was administered in another country, probably within the
last three years."
Oral vaccines using live cultures were replaced in the U.S.in favor of
injections with dead cultures precisely because of the risk of
contracting polio. Their religious beliefs had nothing to do with it.
In fact, the cases were discovered because a child was receiving proper
medical treatment for a "severe immune deficiency" disorder and was
being tested for something else.
Yes, but from the article:
....
Occasionally, however, a vaccine strain circulates for years, passed
from one unvaccinated child to another. When that happens, it undergoes
genetic mutation that can restore the dangerousness of the "wild" virus.
....
Their children were NOT vaccinated because of their religious beliefs,
so they became hosts. That's why the outbreak is restricted to a
religious community.
Also from the story:
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Public health officers are going door to door offering polio vaccine and
requesting stool samples of all children. About 35 samples have been
collected and 32 tested. Fewer than 20 children have been vaccinated,
Hull said.
....
Looks like some of the idiots are STILL refusing to vaccinate their kids.
And that's directly related to their superstitious beliefs.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Trust God or secular science with your child's life. |
14 Oct 2005 02:32:15 PM |
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Brian Westley wrote:
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> writes:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Polio Outbreak Occurs Among Amish Families In Minnesota
By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page A03
The first outbreak of polio in the United States in 26 years occurred
earlier this fall in an Amish community in central Minnesota, state and
federal health officials reported yesterday.
Four children have been infected with the virus, although none has become
paralyzed. The Amish typically decline to vaccinate their children. The
last large outbreak of polio occurred in numerous Amish communities in
several states in 1979.
[more: http://tinyurl.com/98bzg ]
Did you read the whole article? "The infections were traced to an oral
vaccine that was administered in another country, probably within the
last three years."
Oral vaccines using live cultures were replaced in the U.S.in favor of
injections with dead cultures precisely because of the risk of
contracting polio. Their religious beliefs had nothing to do with it.
In fact, the cases were discovered because a child was receiving proper
medical treatment for a "severe immune deficiency" disorder and was
being tested for something else.
Yes, but from the article:
...
Occasionally, however, a vaccine strain circulates for years, passed
from one unvaccinated child to another. When that happens, it undergoes
genetic mutation that can restore the dangerousness of the "wild" virus.
...
Their children were NOT vaccinated because of their religious beliefs,
so they became hosts. That's why the outbreak is restricted to a
religious community.
Perhaps we are reading different articles in the Washington Post. The
one I read said very clearly they had been vaccinated. *shrug*
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Brian Westley" |
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| Title: Re: Trust God or secular science with your child's life. |
14 Oct 2005 06:33:10 PM |
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"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> writes:
Brian Westley wrote:
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> writes:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Polio Outbreak Occurs Among Amish Families In Minnesota
By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page A03
The first outbreak of polio in the United States in 26 years occurred
earlier this fall in an Amish community in central Minnesota, state and
federal health officials reported yesterday.
Four children have been infected with the virus, although none has become
paralyzed. The Amish typically decline to vaccinate their children. The
last large outbreak of polio occurred in numerous Amish communities in
several states in 1979.
[more: http://tinyurl.com/98bzg ]
Did you read the whole article? "The infections were traced to an oral
vaccine that was administered in another country, probably within the
last three years."
Oral vaccines using live cultures were replaced in the U.S.in favor of
injections with dead cultures precisely because of the risk of
contracting polio. Their religious beliefs had nothing to do with it.
In fact, the cases were discovered because a child was receiving proper
medical treatment for a "severe immune deficiency" disorder and was
being tested for something else.
Yes, but from the article:
...
Occasionally, however, a vaccine strain circulates for years, passed
from one unvaccinated child to another. When that happens, it undergoes
genetic mutation that can restore the dangerousness of the "wild" virus.
...
Their children were NOT vaccinated because of their religious beliefs,
so they became hosts. That's why the outbreak is restricted to a
religious community.
Perhaps we are reading different articles in the Washington Post. The
one I read said very clearly they had been vaccinated. *shrug*
No it didn't.
Here are all the mentions of vaccinat[e|ed|ion]:
"The Amish typically decline to vaccinate their children."
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"About 98 percent of Minnesota's children are vaccinated against polio,
said Harry Hull, the state epidemiologist."
....
"The oral vaccine, which is still used in most places in the world, is
made of a live but severely weakened strain of polio virus. The vaccine
virus can be passed person to person, although it rarely becomes part of
a prolonged "chain of transmission" because most people in a population
are vaccinated and cannot be infected.
Occasionally, however, a vaccine strain circulates for years, passed
from one unvaccinated child to another. When that happens, it undergoes
genetic mutation that can restore the dangerousness of the "wild" virus.
Jane Seward, a vaccine expert at the federal Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention, said genetic fingerprinting of the Minnesota strain
shows it is about 2.3 percent different from the vaccine strain. This
suggests it has been circulating for a little more than two years.
Where it was circulating, however, is a mystery. Hull said it is likely
the virus was imported from a country where the oral vaccine is still in
use, but the Amish have little contact with people outside their
community. The first infected child had no known exposure to foreigners.
Public health officers are going door to door offering polio vaccine and
requesting stool samples of all children. About 35 samples have been
collected and 32 tested. Fewer than 20 children have been vaccinated,
Hull said."
....
Nowhere above does the article state that the children had had
any kind of polio vaccine, either oral or injection. On the contrary,
it implies that none of the children were injected (since they would
then be immune), and that where the first child contracted it is
unknown. The strain is about two years old, which would mean it
entered around 2003, but oral vaccine hasn't been used in the US
since 2000. So they didn't get it by getting the oral vaccine in
the US, either. They likely got it through someone from a country
that uses the oral vaccine. Which means they WEREN'T vaccinated,
because then they would've been immune to it.
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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14 Oct 2005 01:24:54 PM |
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"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in
news:hcuainuycw4d.7syrn0gfjeew.dlg@40tude.net:
Enkidu the Atheist wrote:
Polio Outbreak Occurs Among Amish Families In Minnesota
By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page A03
The first outbreak of polio in the United States in 26 years occurred
earlier this fall in an Amish community in central Minnesota, state
and federal health officials reported yesterday.
Four children have been infected with the virus, although none has
become paralyzed. The Amish typically decline to vaccinate their
children. The last large outbreak of polio occurred in numerous Amish
communities in several states in 1979.
[more: http://tinyurl.com/98bzg ]
Did you read the whole article? "The infections were traced to an
oral vaccine that was administered in another country, probably within
the last three years."
Oral vaccines using live cultures were replaced in the U.S.in favor of
injections with dead cultures precisely because of the risk of
contracting polio. Their religious beliefs had nothing to do with it.
In fact, the cases were discovered because a child was receiving
proper medical treatment for a "severe immune deficiency" disorder and
was being tested for something else.
The live vaccine is more effective, though it also has a greater risk.
That is why it is still used.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
There are a lot of brain-related things spiritual belief slows, such as
intelligence and critical thinking.
-- Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Trust God or secular science with your child's life. |
14 Oct 2005 11:35:22 AM |
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on 14 Oct 2005 in alt.atheism, dear sweet Enkidu the Atheist
(jdwnx4702@sneakemail.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
Polio Outbreak Occurs Among Amish Families In Minnesota
By David Brown
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, October 14, 2005; Page A03
The first outbreak of polio in the United States in 26 years occurred
earlier this fall in an Amish community in central Minnesota, state
and federal health officials reported yesterday.
Four children have been infected with the virus, although none has
become paralyzed. The Amish typically decline to vaccinate their
children. The last large outbreak of polio occurred in numerous Amish
communities in several states in 1979.
[more: http://tinyurl.com/98bzg ]
I would normally say fine, take 'em out of the gene pool. But that *****
can spread to enlightened folks. Polio is an airborne virus.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Today's warm fuzzy example of Christian Love:
"1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he (JUDAH)drave out the
inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants
of the valley, because they had chariots of iron. IT WAS JUDAH YOU
DUMBFUCK.
Go back to masturbating to porn sites, you goddammned idiot."
-- Mikal 606
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